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Loopers-Delight-d Digest                                Volume 96 : Issue 1

Today's Topics:
  Re: loop manufacturers                [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias) ]
  Re: does hi volume change your peror  [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias) ]
  Re: lobbying for upgrades.            [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias) ]
  Re: Okay, let's get philosophical: P  [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias) ]
  Re: When? Where?                      [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias) ]
  Re: Tape Submissions                  [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias) ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias) ]
  Re: Bug or Feature -- anyone else ex  [ Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM> ]
  Re: Infinity Guitar                   [ Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski,  ]
  Re: Mixers                            [ Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski,  ]
  Re: Locatons for looping.             [ Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski,  ]
  Todd's VORTEX Patches...Free for the  [ ToddM@LaserMaster.Com ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM> ]
  Re: Locatons for looping.             [ Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM> ]
  Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL         [ Dan Howarth <howarth@U.Arizona.EDU> ]
  Re: Okay, let's get philosophical: P  [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]
  Re: Okay, let's get philosophical: P  [ Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM> ]
  Here we go again                      [ The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.cal ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuSer ]
  Re: Mixers                            [ Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuSer ]
  Todd's VORTEX Patches...Free for the  [ Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuSer ]
  Na Nice Lexicon Story                 [ Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiog ]


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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:18:04 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: loop manufacturers
Message-Id: <v01520d03ae93eed1dec1@[200.254.32.110]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>How many are on this list and could we send emails as a group to both
>companies so that we might at least create create some kind of stir?
>

This would look like begging and could be negative. 50 will not necessarily
impress because we need something like 10000 clients or 100/month or so.

Matthias

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:17:47 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: does hi volume change your perormance?
Message-Id: <v01520d00ae93e5b6bb0d@[200.254.32.110]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>interested in dance styles, where the volume actually makes you feel the
>rhythm in your body and gives you the urge to dance and move.

This is very popular here. People love to dance in front of walls of 15"
cabinets at clipping volume.
The problem I see is that resonances of the mid and high frequences harm
the hearing while the volume is rather desired for chest and bum.
I recommend to the technicians (what they do any way, intuitively) to
abandone linearity and increase the 80-100Hz frequency range by 15dB to
achieve the dance pressure without distroying the music.
The worst is that the population also is viciated in the harmonics that the
usual distortions create. If you put up a system without distortion they do
not really dive into it. We will need a distortion box for this...

Matthias

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:17:54 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: lobbying for upgrades.
Message-Id: <v01520d01ae93e78c2989@[200.254.32.110]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>>So, if Lexicon's JamMan is out of production (more's the pity), then maybe a
>>>steady stream of orders for the Echoplex or the Boomerang or other loopers
>>>can save those pieces of hardware.
>>>
>>>David Kirkdorffer
>
>This is precisely the sort of language that the relevant powers speak. If
>we want to get continued interest from manufacturers in making loop
>products, they need to see ongoing sales. One way for that to happen is for
>us to generally popularize looping, and show others what loopers are and
>why they are fun to use. A very large number of Echoplex sales happen that
>way, because a user convinced his buddy to get one too. Performing with
>them shows people the possibilities.

And the loop music makers as we are talking about a lot on this list will
not be sufficiant
We need to gain one the following public:

- Composers and performers of any kind of style that use loops or samples
to reinforce their performance or help for composing. The problem here is,
that you will hardly notice the influence in the final result, so the user
is not a carrier for propaganda of its own kind, as a loop music freak is.
I my experience the loop music is not effective to call these people
either, because they feel that "loops only serve for new age" or so.
For them we need demonstrations or a video "how to apply loops in rock
music" or so.

- Amateurs that start playing and grab the loop quicker than the instrument
they are using and therefore are happy to be able to create something
musiclike on the loop from the start (some techno rythm for example). These
can be kids, and they rather need a 3 key floor pedal.
When this gets popular we talk about millions of units. It can get popular,
if people like us make a music that amateurs accept as such and recognize
how simple it can be to make it.

Jon Durant, what would you say as an old professional?

Matthias

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:21:20 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Okay, let's get philosophical: Performance Theory time
Message-Id: <v01520d0aae94053220ad@[200.254.32.110]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>No offense to David Jaffe, but for one of his performances, he just popped
>in a tape and we had to sit there and listen to it.  To me this was not
>as interesting as watching him on MIDI violin and his partner on Radio Drum
>wreaking computer-enhanced electronic havoc.  I guess I'm of the old school
>mentality where I expect from a live performance certain elements that can't
>be gotten from listening to the same piece from some recording.

I consider music a magical act ritual a recording thus is just a
documentation about it. The difference is as big as between traveling and
watching documentarys about other places on TV.

Matthias

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:21:16 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: When?  Where?
Message-Id: <v01520d09ae940325a56a@[200.254.32.110]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>matthias... sukandar told me he just ran across rolf recently for pickups. did
>rolf ever get the email bug?

wazdat?

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:21:40 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Tape Submissions
Message-Id: <v01520d00ae94175e65ba@[200.254.32.110]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>I am publishing the first issue of a poetry and music review magazine in
>Philadelphia.  I would like to solicit tape/CD/press kit submissions for
>consideration.
>
>Trey Gunn has agreed to interview for this first issue, and I would like
>contributions from other highly talented individuals and groups.  I have a
>soft spot for touchboard instrumentalists and looping enthusiasts, so
>anything along these lines would be given the highest listening priority.
>
>Victor Fiorillo
>c/o COM
>1914 Spruce Street
>Philadelphia, PA  19103
>
>Please inform me via email if you send any media.

This mail was without any reaction on the list. Did someone send in stuff?
I hope we do not loose this space.
What does the result look like?

MAtthias

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:21:11 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
Message-Id: <v01520d08ae93ffd0dd14@[200.254.32.110]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Ted Killian offers:

>unless someone else was interested in doing it,
>I guess I could offer my graphic services
>(gratis of course) for a Loopy CD. I have done
>several (and my "day job" title is Art Director).
>
>If the group would provide the text, photos,
>a generally agreed upon concept,

That will need a separate mailing list... ;*)

I would like to have a spiral in the background.
Anyone knows how to create a spiral on the puter?

Matthias

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:02:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Bug or Feature -- anyone else experience this?
Message-Id: <199610231902.MAA23470@pure.PureAtria.COM>

Matthias writes:
>
>>>The trouble is when I bring in the note quietly, my Echoplex -- while passing
>>>the sound to my amp -- waits until there is enough gain to RECORD it so the
>>>beginning of the sound seems to be clipped-off.

Has anyone tried companding their signal when going through the 'plex?
 I'd think that if you dbx encoded before and decoded after, you'd
bump your low level signal up enough to defeat this "feature".

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:48:22 -0500
From: Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Phd)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Infinity Guitar
Message-Id: <v01520d00ae945e5a04de@[205.216.96.72]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> additive/resynthesis techniques being developed at cnmat. Naturally, it
>> used the ZIPI network/musical desciption language protocol that we were
>> also developing.
>
>ZIPI sounded like something with a lot of potential. What a shame it
>will probably never see the light of day.
>
>> Personally, I hate guitar synthesizers. It's fun for two minutes while I
>> play a note and say "golly, it comes out sounding like a digiridoo!" But
>> then I notice myself getting bored and losing interest. The problem is that
>> no matter how I play the note, the digiridoo, or tamborine, or whatever,
>> sounds EXACTLY the same. All of the expressive techniques I've spent my
>> whole life learning to do on guitar strings are totally filtered out. No
>> thanks. The infinity was to actually use all the expressive control of the
>> guitarist to control the synthesis, which I found quite exciting.
>
>The only product I know of that fits that description today (access to
>cool non-guitar-like sounds yet with allowance for expressive guitar
>techniques) is the Roland VG8.  It's  a shame there really isn't a competing
>product.  The folks on the Digital Guitar list said that while the VG8
>lives up to the hype as far as being responsive to expressive techniques,
>they found it somewhat lacking in programmability.
>
>Since most of the synthesizer sounds that have caught my interest can be
>duplicated by guitars equipped with today's signal processing technology
>(effects, volume pedals, breath controllers, Ebow, looping devices, etc.)
>I'd probably be more interested in getting a good sampler than a synthesizer,
>mainly for cataloging percussion and guitar noises for cut-and-paste.
>
>
>Paolo Valladolid



I've been using the GR1 for a couple of years and I certainly find it
wanting.  Since I also use an Akai S1000 sampler, I am using it more the
anything in the GR1 system ... it ends up being an expensive trigger.  I
agree that the sounds treated with guitar effects etc. and samplers are
more agreeable.  The guitar as a data entry device into synthesis modules
is a good idea in concept as long as we are willing to play according to
the inherent limitations of the devices.  I have problems with that however
... would rather shape technique and have devices add rather than subtract
from it.  Oh well

Paul

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:50:42 -0500
From: Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Phd)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Mixers
Message-Id: <v01520d01ae945f68446d@[205.216.96.52]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Is anybody out there using 1 or 2 space rack mount line level mixers?  What
>do you think of what you have and what should I look into?  Right now I have
>a patchbay and a Rane SM-26(?) - an 8 line mixer with no effects sends.
>After reading about DT's setup I am considering the possibilities of having
>effects sends in a mixer, rather than through the use of a patchbay.
>
>Any thoughts?

I am using the old Alesis 1622 mixer with my setup and I don't know what I
would do without it.  The mixer becomes the heart of all signal routing and
frankly in an instrument all by itself.  Sonic development requires it for
me.  I need the kind of routing it has to be able to use some of an effect
and be able to switch on the fly to something else ... especially when
playing live.

Paul

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:52:28 -0500
From: Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Phd)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  Locatons for looping.
Message-Id: <v01520d02ae94600869ee@[205.216.96.52]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Paul Poplawski, Phd writes:
>>I think Borders would be a great place for a loopy atmospheric thang
>
>And you can pick up your copy of Bailey's "Improvisation" at the same
>time (I got mine there yesterday).
>
>It's a pretty good store for something owned by K-Mart.
>
>(actually, for those who don't know, the original Border's was a
>fantastic independant bookstore in Ann Arbor, MI.  K-Mart bought them
>a couple years ago and started cloning somewhat mainstreamed versions
>all over the damn country)
>
>Still, pretty good for a chain.  The Tower Records of bookstores.


yes, the Bailey book is available thru them ... although I found hidden in
my bookshelf a hard bound version of the book I bought when itfirst came
out.  funny what we forget we already have

paul

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Date:     23 Oct 1996 18:15:43CST6CDT
From: ToddM@LaserMaster.Com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject:  Todd's VORTEX Patches...Free for the Asking.
Message-ID: <217F44C697E@laserm.lmt.com>

Here ya go, kids.  

Useability: Works for me.
Caveat:      If they don't work, don't say I never gave you anything.
Warning:     Massive Processes.

The first two patches concern Atmosphere 2.  The third uses Choir 2


                         ATMOSPHERE2           ATMOSPHERE2            CHOIR2
                         Wirey Clean Guitar     Synthy Echo Guitar       Burbly Volume Swell
Mix                     43                              64                               49
Output                 64                              64                               64
Mod FX Lvl          50                               64                              45
EchoFX Lvl          55                               64                               45
Morph                 64                               64                               20
Envelope             22                               10                               35
Echo                   08                                08                               02
Echo2                 08                                06                               06
Feedback            40                                64                               34
Feedback2          47                                40                               29
Rate1                 04                                30                               28
Depth1               41                                29                               26
Rate2                 03                                08                               34
Depth2               23                                50                                29
Res2                   28                               64                                14

Okay kids, this is it for now.  If the formatting went to hell, I'll have to find
some other way of doing it, but this works for me, try it out.

"The Vortex Guy"



Todd Madson
PressMate Product Specialist
LaserMaster Big Color Technical Support
Corporate Web Site: http://www.lasermaster.com/
LaserMaster BBS: (612) TEK-LINE
OTIS Faxback Service: (612) 943-3737

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
Message-Id: <199610240045.RAA06726@pure.PureAtria.COM>

"Todd Madson" writes:
>Hmmmm.  $250 a pop and about 7.5 minutes for a single piece.
>Could be do-able, but I've been finding that I've been doing
>20+ minute piece since I've gotten into looping for long, very

As I said before, I can burn CDs digitally from DATs on my PowerMac.
I can also do digital editing (e.g., doing nice smooth fades, click
removal, etc), and can allegedly do super noise reduction using
SoundHack (some folks on DAW claim they do better than Digidesign's
$900 DINR plugin), although I haven't tried yet.

I'd be happy to do a CD for the list.  Blanks are $8-9 at the moment.
I'd be even more happy if buyers would kick in a little to help me buy
better burning software, so I'm not forced to put 2 second blanks
between songs, but this isn't necessary.

Anyone interested in this?  If the quantities don't get too high, we
can do multiple disks.

(also, I can do this service for individuals for a reasonable price)

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:46:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  Locatons for looping.
Message-Id: <199610240146.SAA10726@pure.PureAtria.COM>

>yes, the Bailey book is available thru them ... although I found hidden in
>my bookshelf a hard bound version of the book I bought when itfirst came
>out.  funny what we forget we already have

I think he updateed it when it was reprinted, but I'm not 100% sure.
I can dig up the info if you need.

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:04:51 -0700 (MST)
From: Dan Howarth <howarth@U.Arizona.EDU>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.93.961023190135.61028A-100000@tortola.u.arizona.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

hi all,

sorry for the delay. the pages i'd make would be stored on a server here
at the school of music, u of a. i'm thinking that they'd be around for a
few years at the least. i have no idea beyond that. hopefully - if i can
gather enough cool stuff and make it look neat - it wouldn't be concerning
to the local lab folk as to the disk space, etc.
i'll ask. in the mean time, i'll send out the first survey in a little
bit. thanks to everyone for the enthusiasm! (this is sure to get me an A!)


****************************************************************
**  Dan Howarth, History/Music, University of Arizona, Tucson **
**  http://www.u.arizona.edu/~howarth (under construction)    **
****************************************************************

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:32:36 -0800
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Okay, let's get philosophical: Performance Theory time
Message-Id: <v01510100ae947fa5c615@[128.193.5.83]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>DJ Spooky, as I mentioned in an earlier post, was fully transcendental.
>
>He's got a new live-performance CD out under his real name (I think
>it's Paul Miller).  It's super-limited (500 copies or something), so
>if you're interested, go in search now.  I got mine at Aquarius in SF
>(by mail).

I WILL! What's the title/label?

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel, NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: improv@peak.org
self promotional web-site: http://www.peak.org/~improv/
"A squid eating dough in a polyethelene bag is fast
and bulbous, got me?"
                                     -Captain Beefheart
________________________________________________________

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:42:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Okay, let's get philosophical: Performance Theory time
Message-Id: <199610240242.TAA14790@pure.PureAtria.COM>

Dave Trenkel writes:
>>>DJ Spooky, as I mentioned in an earlier post, was fully transcendental.
>>
>>He's got a new live-performance CD out under his real name (I think
>>it's Paul Miller).  It's super-limited (500 copies or something), so
>>if you're interested, go in search now.  I got mine at Aquarius in SF
>>(by mail).
>
>I WILL! What's the title/label?

Gosh, now you've put me on the spot!

PAUL D. MILLER (DJ SPOOKY)  "Death In The Light Of The Phonograph"
      (Asphodel)  cd  22.00
   We are the only store in the country to -officially- carry this rare,
very limited cd from Miller, aka DJ Spooky. Excellent loops and soundscapes
created for his recent art exhibit, plus the digipakaging includes two
beautiful booklets with Spooky's writing and artwork. His next appearance
in SF is around November 15, see gossip section for details.

Talk to:
  -windy-
             Aquarius Records <><><><>
             1055 Valencia Street
             San Francisco, California
             94110 USA
                      tel 415.647.2272
                      fax 415.647.3447
             <><><><>  aqua@sirius.com


Tell her I sent you.

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:31:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.calarts.edu>
To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Here we go again
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.961023222805.12838A-100000@shoko.calarts.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

I've got another Echoplex wierdness alert:

Just now, after leaving the Echoplex on unused for about twenty minutes, 
I tried recording a loop.  Without entering any sound in, and without 
having the threshold engaged, the thing automatically started recording 
once the engage button was pressed.

But now here's the wierd thing.  When I hit record again, I got a very 
nasty blst of digital white noise.  This happened several times in a 
row.  

I switched the thing off, and upon re-powering all was well (at least it 
seems that way).  Now, is this something anybody's ever heard of?  I've 
never run into this anomaly before.  Will this be solved by clipping the 
internal thermal thing?

I also noticed a few days ago that a loop which was running decayed to 
almost total silence over the course of some fifteen to twenty minutes, 
but the feedback control was definitely all the way to the right.  I've 
read that when more and more overdubs are put into the loops that the 
feedback is automatically scaled back to aout 95%; is that what I'm 
looking at now?

Any advice greatly appreciated,

--Andre

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Date: 24 Oct 96 01:57:03 EDT
From: Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuServe.COM>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
Message-ID: <961024055703_100041.247_JHB33-1@CompuServe.COM>

Matthias asked,
 
> Anyone knows how to create a spiral on the puter?
 
(for all those poor German illiterates, "puter" in German is not only the
short form for "computer" but also the German expression for a (male)
turkey, and consequently "com puter" calls for a turkey to come here.)
 
Yes I can produce spirals on a computer, and not only spirals but many other
interesting abstract images, with my fractal animation program HOP (for PC
only, sorry Mac users) - be sure to check out
 
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm
 
for info, downloads, and a gallery. I seem to remember that you have a Mac
Matthias, so you can only look at the still images. Not many spirals there
yet but I could make some and upload them somewhere if you really want.
 
HOP is more interesting for animations though. I'll use it to do a live
fractal lightshow (using a video beamer and live PC) for a concert this
saturday. Anyone in the Cologne, Germany area is invited to come! <g>
 
-Michael
 
 

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Date: 24 Oct 96 02:29:04 EDT
From: Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuServe.COM>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Mixers
Message-ID: <961024062903_100041.247_JHB82-4@CompuServe.COM>

>Is anybody out there using 1 or 2 space rack mount line level mixers?
>What do you think of what you have and what should I look into?
 
I heard that there is a Rocktron mixer with 4 effect sends, but I don't know
more about it. Seems to be the only affordable mixer with 4 effect sends.
Sounds like I want it too. <g>
 
-Michael

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Date: 24 Oct 96 02:48:06 EDT
From: Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuServe.COM>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Todd's VORTEX Patches...Free for the Ask
Message-ID: <961024064806_100041.247_JHB51-1@CompuServe.COM>

thanks for sharing your Vortex patches Todd. You forgot the settings for
Resonance1 - what are they? -Michael

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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:34:04 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiogen.fr>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Na Nice Lexicon Story
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961024092240.2437B-100000@lovelace.infobiogen.fr>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

When we say we can't trust these people.....

I've been buying since the extensive chat we  had about the Vortex, an
unit to Guitar Center of Hallendale (florida, i think). This post is
intended, although off topic, to warn people like me that were stupid
enough to buy things in the states, but living elsewhere (I'm french).
The price was really interesting compared to french prices.

Unfortunately, the unit I received is dead. The knob that is supposed to
let dial between the programms only offer half of them (you have again 16
on position 1, 15 on 2, 8 on 3, etc) Besides, if you use a pedal to switch
between registers, what you get is the unit jumping every 20 seconds from
the pedal set programm to the knob set programm. Complete disaster.

But the funny thing is Lexicon told they won't support any warranty in my
case. What i'm supposed to do is have someone repair it and pay. Just
nice. I've checked on my warranty card. Nowhere is written that the
warranty is void in such circontances.

Of course Guitar Center claim no responsibility too, and they are...
sorry! So i'm stuck with a unit costing 234 bucks with shipping, and that
was dead....

Warning to all people who'd consider to buy in the states: 
Don't unless you are of course american

Olivier Malhomme

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