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Loopers-Delight-d Digest                                Volume 96 : Issue 19

Today's Topics:
  Re: Steve Reich                       [ Dan Howarth <howarth@U.Arizona.EDU> ]
  Re: Much Vaunted CD Project           [ Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM> ]
  Re: more Steve Reich                  [ andre <andre@monmouth.com> ]
  Re: To the Block and Ruse guy         [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr Michael  ]
  Boomerang                             [ sarajanes@mdcs.com (Sarajanes) ]
  TC elec. sustain pedal                [ Chris Chovit <cho@gomez.jpl.nasa.go ]
  greetings                             [ "Pete Gilbert" <PeteGilbert@msn.com ]
  To the Block and Ruse guy             [ Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM> ]
  Clavinett Buyer                       [ patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) ]
  Sort of Looping                       [ patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) ]
  Re: To the Block and Ruse guy         [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:16:54 -0700 (MST)
From: Dan Howarth <howarth@U.Arizona.EDU>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Steve Reich
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.961114161243.56942A-100000@tortola.u.arizona.edu>
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i'll get to meet him a week from tomorrow when he comes to perform here in
tucson. (i recently started working at our concert hall, 'Centennial Hall'
on campus. highlights so far were 'Tommy' and personally driving (at
different times) al di meola and paco de lucia from their hotels to the
hall - including conversations amidst rush hour traffic. :) who said work
wasn't fun? their performance w/john mclaughlin, as the 'guitar trio' was
more or less similar to the friday night in san fransisco disc. 

anyhow, i'll let y'all know how mr. reich is doing these days. :)

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**  Dan Howarth, History/Music, University of Arizona, Tucson **
**  http://www.u.arizona.edu/~howarth (under construction)    **
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:30:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Much Vaunted CD Project
Message-Id: <199611150230.SAA14438@pure.PureAtria.COM>

"Todd Madson" writes:
>Todd Madson responds with:
>
>Ray said : "contact me directly by email and we'll work something out."
>
>Can I get your e-mail address?  Thanks.  I'd rather not clutter up this
>group with my questions.

Um, it's right up there in the headers.  You don't see any headers?
Better take a look at your mail reader's setup.

rpeck@pureatria.com

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:57:39 -0500 (EST)
From: andre <andre@monmouth.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: more Steve Reich
Message-Id: <199611151357.IAA28836@shell.monmouth.com>
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At 03:58 PM 11/14/96 EST, you wrote:
>Picked up a new Steve Reich CD today, containing 3 new pieces.
> 
>'Nagoya Marimbas': a very beautiful marimba duet, similar to Reich's
>earlier marimba pieces but more complex and with more variations.
>This 4 minute piece alone is worth the CD if you like Reich's minimalism.
> 
>'The Proverb': a choir/ensemble piece influenced by early music.
> 
>'City Life' (a predecessor to 'The Cage'): a complex piece of ensemble
>music with sampled city sounds, e.g. speech samples with the speech melody
integrated into the harmonic flow of the piece.--Michael

Yeah !!-- i love this new cd! it's alittle short, though... i also hear
Reich will have some box set stuff and some unreleased stuff coming next
year tho'....can't wait. Have you heard "The Cave"....was that what you
meant as "the cage"??? if not, i'm unfamiliar with that one.. but he is a
great American composer - loop-addicted people unfamiliar with his work
should especially check out the early stuff (all on one disk now) like "Come
out" and "it's raining". Seminal tape loop pieces.

my .02

andre east

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:24:53 GMT
From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr Michael P. Hughes)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Cc: attix@apple.com
Subject: Re: To the Block and Ruse guy
Message-Id: <762.199611151724@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>
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>>To the guy who wanted pointers to what looping can do in rock, I'd
>>wholeheartedly recommend "Purple Electric Violin Concerto" by Ed
>>Alleyne-Johnson
>>on Equation Records.It's classically-influenced rock on an electric violin
>>through various pedals (distortion etc) into a Digitech 8-second delay
>>pedal.  This is my all-time fave looping CD, so I'd recommend it to
>>everyone else as well!
>Mike- 
>Do you have an address or phone number for Equation? Thanks.
>
>-Tom Attix

Sure.  The address for Equation I have is PO Box 547, Oxford, Oxon, UK.
Telephone (+44) 1865 715965.  Forthermore, however, it has "distributed by
Backs/RTM-Pinnacle (+44) 1603 624290.  THe CD number  is EQCD001

Oh, and it has the Mandelbrot set on the cover  :(

Michael
(I'll try for a proper review next week)

Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes      Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg,
Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979        University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K.
        "Everything in moderation, including moderation" (Zen Proverb)

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:32:50 GMT
From: sarajanes@mdcs.com (Sarajanes)
To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Boomerang
Message-Id: <848079170@mdcs.com>

 Greetings Fellow Loopers, 
                           I wanted to share with you folks some of 
the conversation I had 11/14 with Mike Nelson via telephone. Mike is the 
designer of the Boomerang Phrase Sampler, and I believe CEO of Boomerang 
Musical Products located in Dallas, Texas. I called Mike to ask a few 
questions about the nature of his product and he was gracious enough to 
speak with me at length about my concerns. If you are unfamiliar with 
the Boomerang call 1-800-530-4699 for a free brochure. Briefly the unit 
was designed to be a looping device as opposed to a delay unit. It comes 
in either 1 or 4 Mbyte configurations, yielding 32 or 128 second loop 
times respectively. The unit will allow you to half speed these times 
with resultant time extension and bandwidth loss.You can also reverse 
the signal. Other features are best left to the brochures descriptive 
intent. My concerns were in discovering what upgrades might be in 
consideration for the device currently, and how the Boomerang people 
saw their device in the scheme of the looping device market at large. 
 
                             Mike informed me that among the features 
being considered for the next incarnation of the Boomerang are an "undo" 
function, and improved tap in and tap out parameters related to layering 
or "stacking" as they refer to it. He mentioned that they had already 
done factory mods for Henry Kaiser and a looper in S.F.(??) concerning 
some of these functions. He stated that they were aware of the 
different needs of loopers as compared to "standard" players and they 
hoped to address these performance issues through the development and 
marketing of the initial model and it's subsequent improvements. I tried 
to articulate my own concerns about existing looper manufacturers and 
their relative lack of interest concerning customer service and we 
agreed that it came down to bottom line economics,i.e. if Lexicon sells 
a hundred LXP-15 to every Jamman, where does the happy axe fall...no 
mystery. I stressed to him that the nature of this technology's future 
being driven by fiscally uninterested business interests was it's single 
biggest detrimental tangent. Coupled with the nature of looping not 
being all that accessable a compositional style for many players, the 
factors presented a challenge I suggested would "undo" even the best 
layed plans. Mike reassured me that his committment stemmed from his 
first instincts as a player not a salesman, and the desire to market 
a well made device with superior performance functionality. 
 
                              I feel Mike and his company are making an 
honest effort to provide a quality product with the proper amount of 
related customer service. My personal experience with factory reps and 
the like over the years (Gibson included) have made this buyer beware. 
I gave Mike the Loopers Delight URL, and urged him to access it as a 
source of information and feedback that would benefit his pursuits and 
perhaps all loopers in time. I know that the devices currently in 
existance can be improved upon and that the key to making that happen 
and other future developments is honest communication about our needs 
and desires as loopers, but those issues need to fall on hearing ears 
with adequate minds, and pockets. I hope the people at Boomerang can 
provide these important aspects through their work, time will tell. 
In the meantime, 16 and 32 seconds are my playground timeframes and 
I'll make do.....but the day is coming hopefully when I can choose an 
upgrade that makes sense, while not emptying the fridge for months as 
a direct consequence (women and children get crabby and uncooperative 
when malnourished). Hope this was of interest, stay looped. 
 
                                        Bryan (loss of signal) Helm 
 
                                                                                                                       

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:30:38 -0700
From: Chris Chovit <cho@gomez.jpl.nasa.gov>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: TC elec. sustain pedal
Message-Id: <v03007804aeb2ad473c91@[137.79.95.51]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I know this isn't a marketplace, but I remember someone, at some point, was
interested in a T.C. Electronics Sustain pedal.  I ran across this ad, for
anyone who is interested...

TC Electronic Sustain $200, vintage ADA Flanger $150, Boss OD-1 overdrive
(new in box) $90. All are or best offer. Will trade. Mauricio
(gobbi@coastal.udel.edu) 302-731-5394/831-6550


_____________________________________________________
Chris Chovit                                          cho@gomez.jpl.nasa.gov
AVIRIS Experiment Coordinator              ph: (818) 354-8077
JPL M/S 306-336                                 FAX: (818) 393-4406
4800 Oak Grove Dr.               pager #: (800) 759-8255 PIN 834-3869
Pasadena, CA 91109
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 96 15:26:10 UT
From: "Pete Gilbert" <PeteGilbert@msn.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: greetings
Message-Id: <UPMAIL07.199611161527370860@msn.com>

This is another of those first posts from a looper who is very pleased to have 
found this list. Hopefully, I'll be able to add some useful info.

So, here comes the "this is what he does" part of the post:

I've been fascinated with the work of Fripp and Eno since the late seventies 
(much to the annoyance of some friends). My first looping experiments were 
with a SE-50 which gave me about a second or so of delay. These first attempts 
were, by their nature very rhythmic and simple, but I learned a lot. Approx. 
three years ago or so, I broke down and bought a jamman, which I have since 
upgraded to 32 second loops. I feed heavily processed chapman stick and synth 
sounds into the loops and I have been very pleased with the results. A couple 
of months ago, I purchased a H3000-d/sx (hi Jonathan), which I am trying to 
get the sample upgrade added to. At the moment, I use the h3000 to further 
mangle the sounds before feeding them into the jamman. 

I play a chapman stick (10 string) to which I have added a gk2a pickup driving 
a gr09. The melody end of the stick is fed through an art sgx2000 express. The 
bass end if fed through a vortex. My mixer then feeds these sounds through the 
h3000, and the results are fed into the jamman. I am fairly pleased with this 
setup, and have used it to create solo loops, and as underlying textures with 
other musicians.

so, there you have it. thanks for reading.

Pete Gilbert

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:12:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: To the Block and Ruse guy
Message-Id: <199611170012.QAA04033@pure.PureAtria.COM>

Dr Michael P. Hughes writes:
>To the guy who wanted pointers to what looping can do in rock. . .

Also, The Mermen.  I haven't listened for it on records, but I've got
a DAT of an appearance they did on KFJC with some wonderfully subtle
looping.  I was listening away when I realized that there were two
guitar parts playing, and it took me a while to realize that one of
them was looping (a fiarly long loop).

The Mermen's guitarist roolz the effects universe.

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:24:34 +0200
From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Clavinett Buyer
Message-Id: <v01520d08aeb3ef7a276f@[205.177.25.43]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hey in case you need more money....thsisi form Harmony Central

WTB: Horner Clavinette

Asking Price: US$N/A
Condition: Excellent
Production Year: 7375
Description:

       Aspiring funkateer in need of a Horner Clavinet. As much as
       I search for good clavinet sounds on the digital wonders I do not find
       them. I would be estatic to negotiate a price on buying a Horner clav,
       in good condition; Please leave e-mail if interested.

Seller: Greg Midgley, (801) 277-5905
E-mail: mkmidgley@sisna.com
Location: SALT LAKE CITY, UT
Post Date: 11/16/96

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:32:12 +0200
From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Sort of Looping
Message-Id: <v01520d0baeb3f0d27826@[205.177.25.43]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi guys, I just found this on an ambient list I'm on.....what an
idea....just thought you would  be interested...........

Patrick

>From: jmax@interport.net (John Maxwell Hobbs)
>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:28:44 -0500
>Subject: (amb) Acoustics of Cyberspace - NYC
>
>I would like to invite you to my lecture:
>
>ACOUSTICS OF CYBERSPACE
>Parsons School of Design
>Monday November 18th, at 6:30pm
>25 E. 13th Street, NYC  Room 206.
>
>The lecture is free.
>There will be a RECEPTION to follow.
>
>
>The lecture will focus on the "Virtual Abbey" project I developed with
>David Hykes a year ago.  With the help of Michel Redolphi and Luc Martinez
>at CIRM in Nice, we transported the acoustic environment of le Thoronet
>Abbey, a 12th century abbey in the south of France, to The Kitchen in New
>York City.  The voices of the Harmonic Choir were digitally transmitted to
>the abbey, the reverberation of the abbey was then transmitted back to New
>York in real time, where the audience had the same acoustical experience as
>those who were in the real abbey in France.
>
>I will also discuss the potential for this kind of acoustical tranportation
>in the 21st century.
>
>Please join me -- we will have a small reception afterward.
>
>
>John Maxwell Hobbs

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:23:40 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: To the Block and Ruse guy
Message-Id: <v02140b00aeb55f16faf5@[207.171.196.52]>
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>Dr Michael P. Hughes=7F=7F writes:
>>To the guy who wanted pointers to what looping can do in rock. . .
>
>Also, The Mermen.  I haven't listened for it on records, but I've got
>a DAT of an appearance they did on KFJC with some wonderfully subtle
>looping.  I was listening away when I realized that there were two
>guitar parts playing, and it took me a while to realize that one of
>them was looping (a fiarly long loop).
>
>The Mermen's guitarist roolz the effects universe.

Jim Thomas uses Obie Echoplexes, for those keeping track.

Another rocker using loopers is Neal Schon of Journey. He's fanatical about
the echoplexes he has. (I get phone calls every time he has a question or
even thinks there's something wrong, for which I received a thanks in the
liner notes of the new Journey album. Woohoo! Don't stop believin'!) Neal
uses them live for Journey and Abraxas, as well as for recording and
composing. He does a couple of things with them live. One is the obvious,
looping a rhythm part so that he can solo over it. For a band like Journey
its pretty important to duplicate the recorded versions fairly accurately,
and the loopers make the overdubbed parts on the album doable live. His
other main use is for backwards guitar parts. Sometimes he'll play around
with lots of overdubs to get interesting effects. After one of his Abraxas
shows he recorded the last 200 seconds of his playing for the night, and
left it looping while the audience left and the roadies tore down the
stage.

=46or composing and recording, he syncs the echoplexes to his rhythm machine
and loops guitar synth, VG-8, and straight guitar sounds to build up a
section until he likes it. (Undo is real handy for this)  When he gets it
right, he records it.

I think looping works great in a rock or blues context. That's not all,
though. I know of some bluegrass players that are into it too! Interlocked
polyrhythmic frippian soundscapes are all well and good, but sometimes ya
just gotta rock....

kim

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