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Loopers-Delight-d Digest                                Volume 96 : Issue 3

Today's Topics:
  Re: CRASH                             [ The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CAL ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuSer ]
  Re: Here we go again                  [ The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CAL ]
  Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL         [ Michael Hughes <pycraft@elec.gla.ac ]
  Guitar tunings, Vortex, MicroSynth    [ Michael Hughes <pycraft@elec.gla.ac ]
  Re: lobbying for upgrades.            [ Jon Durant <74074.1316@CompuServe.C ]
  Re: lobbying for upgrades.            [ Jonathan Brainin <jbrainin@easyway. ]
  Re: Guitar tunings, Vortex, MicroSyn  [ Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiog ]
  Re: lobbying for upgrades.            [ Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@wayneswo ]
  Re: Guitar tunings, Vortex, MicroSyn  [ Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@wayneswo ]
  visualize loops?                      [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL         [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL         [ PMimlitsch@aol.com ]
  Analog Loops                          [ patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuSer ]
  Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL         [ Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiog ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiog ]

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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:25:33 -0800 (PST)
From: The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: CRASH
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.961028192507.5445A-100000@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
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On second thought, never mind...  They all showed up in the INBOX just now.

--Andre

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Date: 29 Oct 96 02:32:14 EST
From: Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuServe.COM>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
Message-ID: <961029073214_100041.247_JHB105-1@CompuServe.COM>

>> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm
>> HOP is more interesting for animations though. I'll use it to do a live
>> fractal lightshow (using a video beamer and live PC) for a concert this
>> saturday. Anyone in the Cologne, Germany area is invited to come! <g>
 
>  How was it?
 
people generally like it but I'm growing more critical of it - it is very
difficult to find abstract animations which fit the music played - sometimes
it works but sometimes it doesn't and then doing it anyway is too arbitrary
to be really satisfying. I'm still dreaming to do a solo project with my own
music and my own images, but I'm still far from this point.
 
Computers will eventually be able to successfully do this thing - produce
live visuals for music played by humans or played by software or both.
 
Generative music (in the Eno sense) accompanied by generative visuals, maybe
with genetic algorithms which could be influenced by the audience (as in the
computer graphics installations of Karl Sims who uses a Connection Machine).
Concerts possibly without musicians, the music being played by the audience
itself, starting out from initial conditions set by a composer, and evolving
like a living being.
 
-Michael

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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:36:42 -0800 (PST)
From: The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Here we go again
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.961028233428.6444A-100000@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
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Matthias sez: (regarding Feedback problems)

> I looked through the docs and could not find such bug mentioned. I found
> that in this first version, through MIDI you did not reach full FeedBack.
> Do you use MIDI, Andre?

I'm a MIDIot for sure, but I've used it fairly little with the Echoplex,
and never with regards to the feedback control. 

At any rate, I've run the machine many times since noticing the
aforementioned anomaly, and it seems to be OK.  Probably either a random
bug, or else it was the old IC/Pin 5 syndrome. 

--Andre

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:04:09 GMT
From: Michael Hughes <pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL
Message-Id: <16734.199610291004@eeapp.gla.ac.uk>

>3. David brought up the idea to do a CD. This would require some work
>from someone who would realize the CD, and some money from the participants.
>"Imagine if a CD costs $2500 and 10 musicians divided 76minutes and the
>total cost..."

I, and I'm sure a few others, could do a sub -7.6min song (sorry, is "song" 
an acceptable phrase here?:) ). How about setting a $30/min charge, and people
just take what they can afford?

Furthermore, is this going to be edited ("I'm not putting this crap on the CD!")
and if so by whom?

> So there are 4 DAT tapes with contributions here, 3 accousic an one el. guitar.
> I can ask the guys if they are interested even paying.
> I want percussion woodwind, voice... on it!! You really ALL play guitar???

Well, guitar is the most accessible electric instrument, and all the synthists
can loop with MIDI more easily....  After hearing Ed Alleyne-Johnson's CD
of looped electic violin I did try taking the violin up, but it seemed to be
such an uphill struggle to learn a new instrument that I just gave up!

The other Michael

                 Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes,  Natural Philosopher 
      Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg, University of Glasgow, UK
          "Everything in Moderation, Including Moderation" (Zen proverb)

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:17:37 GMT
From: Michael Hughes <pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Guitar tunings, Vortex, MicroSynth
Message-Id: <17278.199610291017@eeapp.gla.ac.uk>

Tunings:

Anybody out there using unusual guitar tunings to cover up the lack of bass in
your loops?  I've been trying several variants of tuning in 5ths (eg FCGDAE,
DAFCGD or GCGDAE, low-high) which give very lush-sounding chords but can be a 
nightmare when it comes to playing single-note lines (hence the 4th in the bass 
on the G-E tuning, my current fave).  Anyone else have similar experiences?

Vortex:

OK, this has probably been discussed to death.  However, since there aren't
any Lex dealers (AFAIK) in Glasgow, I'm going to have to ask some pretty basic
 questions about the Vortex. Feel free to EMail me personally if it keeps 
traffic down.  Basically, what is it capable of?  I get the impression that 
it's a one delay-plus-mod-effect  at a time box (delay, rvb, chorus-ish stuff 
but no pitch-shift or EQ).  It has 2 external switch outputs - are these 
probrammable for all patches?  Does it accept MIDSI CC's, and if so will it 
alter the input rather than output signal (for swell FX that don't interfere with
RVB fades?)

Micro Synth:

Olivier said: "it's VCA can cut attack so can play violin like line without 
touching your volume pot, no matter the speed of play."
Is there anything else about that will do this?

 

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Date: 29 Oct 96 08:04:22 EST
From: Jon Durant <74074.1316@CompuServe.COM>
To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: lobbying for upgrades.
Message-ID: <961029130421_74074.1316_GHQ57-2@CompuServe.COM>

Mattias:
>Yes. It gave me the feeling that we could do it much better.  :-)
>But then Oberheim...
>A friend had some great ideas to explain graphically what happens. One day
>we will do it, you'll see. And maybe together instead of beeing
>competidors.

You know, if they didn't cost so damn much money, and take so much time to put
together, I'd say "Let's do it!". It would be immensely helpful to people,
regardless of their chosen Looping device. Not to mention that it would get a
certain monkey off my back. (Clearly I'm really embarrassed by that video!)

Mattias again:
>So lets walk into these shops and start talking about looping and shows >and...

Another excellent idea. If we start bombarding the shops about looping, you'd be
amazed at the change we could effect. Unfortunately, most of us already own a
device, but we could still go in asking about upgrades, talking up how the
device has changed our lives, etc. They might even listen if a few people start
doing this.

More Mattias
>Yes. And I want to participate on that Alesis product!

Seriously, Mattias: as much as it pains me to say this, it may just be the
answer. They've got gobs of money to throw at R&D, and so much work is already
done. Maybe you should approach them. It wouldn't be a stretch for them, and
they always love an opportunity to show up Lexicon. 

One thing I do know: don't waste time at Digitech--they spent a lot of time
laughing at their co-Harman company (Lexicon) after the box flopped. Early on
itwas all "Great box, cool idea" and in their demos at shows they even tried to
demo some looping (about 1.5 sec) in the GSP 2101. Then JamMan didn't sell, and
it was all "what a stupid idea. Nobody wants that". Nice guys.

>2. Making do with the delay effects that do not enjoy a comparable feature
>set (i.e., delay pedals, delays built into multieffects devices).
>3. Paying major $$$ for a tc electronics, Eventide, or other high-end
>looping box that does have the desirable features but also induces sticker
>shock.

I don't know what Eventide are dooing loop-wise. I do know tey've got a
rediculously priced "guitar" version of the DSP4000, but apparently it doesn't
sound so great (from the mouth of DT), and it looks really lame. Like a bad ART
box. Really. TC Electronics does have the 2290, the preferred delay device of
mssrs. Fripp and Gunn. Cool box, very expensve. I went to a "private" customer
show of upgrades to the M500 (I had gotten on their mailing list with Alchemy
Records, while I still worked for Lexicon), and they were giving away a 2290. So
I went, hoping to win the beast, but the local representative recognized me and
kicked me out. They were showing the upgrades to consumers, yet they claimed it
was "confidential" and we Lex guys had to leave. Nice guys.

Yeah, OK, I know it's another long one. Sorry.

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:20:12 -0500
From: Jonathan Brainin <jbrainin@easyway.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: lobbying for upgrades.
Message-ID: <3276129B.6944@easyway.net>
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Jon Durant wrote:
> I don't know what Eventide are dooing loop-wise. I do know tey've got a
> rediculously priced "guitar" version of the DSP4000, but apparently it doesn't
> sound so great (from the mouth of DT), and it looks really lame. Like a bad ART
> box. Really. TC Electronics does have the 2290, the preferred delay device of
> mssrs. Fripp and Gunn. 

A couple of things: Fripp is currently using four 2290's while Trey
doesn't
use one at all.  (Fripp has enough for both?!)  Also, on Trey's great
sounding 
new album, "The Third Star", he uses the eventide box almost
exclusively.  
He's got the long sampling board option in his box.  

Also, a friend at Eventide tell me that they're working on the
DSP/GTR4500.  
This would have four independent inputs and outputs, stereo looping
ability
of up to six (or was it eight) minutes using standard 72 pin simms, and
too
many other features to recall.

Later,
Jonathan

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:16:29 +0100 (MET)
From: Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiogen.fr>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Guitar tunings, Vortex, MicroSynth
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961029170653.23437A-100000@lovelace.infobiogen.fr>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

I think Korg did a few years ago a stompbox with quite the same features
of my Electro-harmoniw micro synth, but it seems (at least here) to be
more elusive to find (here means france).

They had in the same stomboxes line an octaver with 5 bands (one above,
the urrent guitar line, one octave lower, 1.5 octave lower (?) and 2
octaves lower).

As far as guitar tunings are concerned, my usuals tunings are
- main tunings EADGBE (standard)
- fifth starting on A lower than usaul E:  AEBF#C#G#
- Baritone fretless guitar (not a bass) usual intervals tuning transpose
to start on the same A than above: ADG......
- on the opposite, a minor third tuning with the higher string being tuned
in C. Gives easily delicate cluster voicing arpeggios and chords.
Does it seem complicated enough????
I can switch instruments while growing a loop.... and there is my beloved
stick. Since most of my loops are done manually with repeating every notes
on a multitracker, and seldomly using electronic created loops, it works
(id I had an echoplex, i think i woul become lazy and start to record
loops with the machine.....)

Olivier

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:56:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: lobbying for upgrades.
Message-Id: <199610292056.MAA25340@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
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> Also, a friend at Eventide tell me that they're working on the
> DSP/GTR4500.  
> This would have four independent inputs and outputs, stereo looping
> ability
> of up to six (or was it eight) minutes using standard 72 pin simms, and
> too
> many other features to recall.
> 
> Later,
> Jonathan

What is the possibility of Eventide producing a box that has _just_ the
stereo looping functions?  Something that would sell for under $1000?


Paolo Valladolid
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:11:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Guitar tunings, Vortex, MicroSynth
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> Micro Synth:
> 
> Olivier said: "it's VCA can cut attack so can play violin like line without 
> touching your volume pot, no matter the speed of play."
> Is there anything else about that will do this?

Some of the Digitech multi-effects boxes have a built-in volume swell
effect that does the job.

I notice a number of "synth bass" type effects from Roland/Boss and Korg
now (Roland even has a Synth Bass pedal).  They all have a monophonic
analog synth that is triggered by the input signal and so works with
any electric guitar or bass without the need for a hex pickup. As
far as I know, the guitar-specific monosynths are available in the Boss
SE70 and Roland GT5 multieffects units.

I just received an interesting review of the GT5 which has been submitted
for posting in Digital Guitar.

Paolo Valladolid
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:21:17 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: visualize loops?
Message-Id: <v01520d03ae9bea606cb5@[200.254.32.114]>
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Michael speaking about his concert:

>>> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm
>>> HOP is more interesting for animations though. I'll use it to do a live
>>> fractal lightshow (using a video beamer and live PC) for a concert this
>>> saturday. Anyone in the Cologne, Germany area is invited to come! <g>
>
>>  How was it?
>
>people generally like it but I'm growing more critical of it - it is very
>difficult to find abstract animations which fit the music played - sometimes
>it works but sometimes it doesn't and then doing it anyway is too arbitrary
>to be really satisfying. I'm still dreaming to do a solo project with my own
>music and my own images, but I'm still far from this point.
>
>Computers will eventually be able to successfully do this thing - produce
>live visuals for music played by humans or played by software or both.

A old dream of mine too. I do not understand sufficiantly.
The most looplike pictures I have seen so far was a video demonstration by
some californian called James Levis I met in Rio de Janeiro. (I lost his
contact). He uses mirrors and films the screen through them and its
incredible how natural the forms and movements of these sinthetic pictures
turn out. Some have regular patterns. Maybe he uses certain arangements of
several mirrors, too.

>Generative music (in the Eno sense) accompanied by generative visuals, maybe
>with genetic algorithms which could be influenced by the audience (as in the
>computer graphics installations of Karl Sims who uses a Connection Machine).
>Concerts possibly without musicians, the music being played by the audience
>itself, starting out from initial conditions set by a composer, and evolving
>like a living being.

Nono, it takes an artist to create art. Accident is great, but only if an
artist interpretes it. Public envolvement is fun but not satisfactory,
lacking straightness or purity or something.
I may be totaly wrong here, would need to see the result.

Matthias

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:21:24 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL
Message-Id: <v01520d04ae9bedf5442c@[200.254.32.114]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>3. David brought up the idea to do a CD. This would require some work
>>from someone who would realize the CD, and some money from the participants.
>>"Imagine if a CD costs $2500 and 10 musicians divided 76minutes and the
>>total cost..."
>
>I, and I'm sure a few others, could do a sub -7.6min song (sorry, is "song"
>an acceptable phrase here?:) ). How about setting a $30/min charge, and people
>just take what they can afford?

The capitalistic way usually works - bad. Equilibrated would be nice.

>Furthermore, is this going to be edited ("I'm not putting this crap on the
>CD!")
>and if so by whom?

Very delicate and important question. In case of the LOOP POOL I simply
(and capitalistically) proposed myself as investor and editor.
This new proposual could be more democratic and maybe we find a mix where
all agree on. Or then we have to be sincere and say to one: "we do not like
your music."

>> So there are 4 DAT tapes with contributions here, 3 accousic an one el.
>>guitar.
>> I can ask the guys if they are interested even paying.
>> I want percussion woodwind, voice... on it!! You really ALL play guitar???
>
>Well, guitar is the most accessible electric instrument,

No need for an electric instrument. Any reasonably micable instrument or
voice work well!!

>and all the synthists can loop with MIDI more easily....

How?

Matthias

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:21:01 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
Message-Id: <v01520d00ae9bda39a120@[200.254.32.114]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I had said
>>For the comunity though, I think it is interesting to have a quantity of
>>CDs with 'professional' cover so we can give them away and gain respect and
>>get known.
>>
>>Its just not the same feeling to put in a gold CD.

And Ray:
>Why not have a professional cover?  We can get some dye-sub printed at
>1200 dpi.  This looks as nice as any "real" cover.

I do not doubt we can do a good imitation. It may even look nicer then a
"real" cover, but unfortunately there is such thing as "real" cover.

What is the problem in making 1000 CDs? Lack of investing members?

So far:

David
Matthias
Ted
Collier
Todd
Ray
Michael

I see, only seven, and not very convinced / with 250$ readdy.

Ok, we might start collecting and editing sound, distribute it amongst us
and then see whether we jump into some investment later. Let grow is nice.

Matthias

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:28:42 -0500
From: PMimlitsch@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL
Message-ID: <961029202841_220158661@emout11.mail.aol.com>

Ex Guitar/Looper here.  Converted to Chapman Stick/Looper about 10 yrs. ago.
New to list.
-------Paul

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:40:10 +0200
From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Analog Loops
Message-Id: <v01520d01ae9c0ac7dd83@[205.177.25.43]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

I joined last week and have been swamped as usual. This topic arose I
believe when I raised a question about an Oberhiem Matrix-6R.

I'm in an ambient music project called Fingerpaint. We are Washington DC
locals, myself and Steev Geest. We use four Jam Men(2 each,) and a wealth
of effects. Steev uses a Roland GR 300 and GR 700, plus an occasional SH
101 analog keyboard synth for his sound sources. I use a Roland Gr-1 and
Yahmah TX 81-z, plus a Korg Poly Six for mine. Recently I've added a Roland
GR-50 and now the Matrix-6.

So as you can see we have a good analog base to our loops, but also digital
and FM synths. We've also used acoustic guitar and a vase filled with
marbles and water. Whatever the music requires is what drives us.

We have recently released a cassette Enormous Swirling Sound, which I can
make available to any one interested in what we are doing for $5 postpaid.
The cassette contains eight pieces and is 40 minutes in duration. E-mail if
interested and send a check payable to me at:

Patrick Smith
7007 Aspen Ave.
Takoma Park, MD 20912

Our Web site will be up soon and will contain our thoughts on looping. When
we have these written up, I'll forward them to the list.

I look forward to being on this list.

Peace,

Patrick

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:43:50 +0200
From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
Message-Id: <v01520d03ae9c0e50b21c@[205.177.25.43]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Myself and Steev Geest, aka Fingerpaint, are interested in participating in
this compilation project. We could forward a DAT and if $250 is the ante,
we can cover that.

Please advise as to what is necessary. The editing question could be sticky.

>And Ray:
>>Why not have a professional cover?  We can get some dye-sub printed at
>>1200 dpi.  This looks as nice as any "real" cover.
>
>I do not doubt we can do a good imitation. It may even look nicer then a
>"real" cover, but unfortunately there is such thing as "real" cover.
>
>What is the problem in making 1000 CDs? Lack of investing members?
>
>So far:
>
>David
>Matthias
>Ted
>Collier
>Todd
>Ray
>Michael
>
>I see, only seven, and not very convinced / with 250$ readdy.
>
>Ok, we might start collecting and editing sound, distribute it amongst us
>and then see whether we jump into some investment later. Let grow is nice.
>
>Matthias

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Date: 30 Oct 96 02:45:36 EST
From: Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuServe.COM>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
Message-ID: <961030074535_100041.247_JHB75-1@CompuServe.COM>

Matthias counts up who's interested in doing a CD ...
 
> So far:
> David
> Matthias
> Ted
> Collier
> Todd
> Ray
> Michael
> I see, only seven, and not very convinced / with 250$ readdy.
 
Several more people have replied to my original tape exchange proposal, and
might or might not be interested in the CD thingie. Please, would the people
who only replied to the tape proposal say if they're interested in doing the
CD thing (with the specifics - money etc - still to be clarified) ?
 
Adding the people who specifically reacted to the CD proposal, my count looks
like this (quite possible that I missed someone - please raise your hand!)
 
Andre LaFosse
Dave Trenkel
David Kirkdorffer
David Orton
Doug Michael
Jon Morris
Louis Collier Hyams
Matthias Grob
Michael Hughes
Michael Peters
Patrick Smith
Ray Peck
Ted R. Killian
Todd Madson
 
A looping friend of mine (Leander) who has no computer/email yet would also
like to participate.
 
Matthias: Has Kim already commented on the LoopPool tapes you sent him?
 
Anyway: If we can successfully sort out the money etc issues, there might
easily turn out to be too many participants for 1 CD - we might have to do
a double CD! I think this would be cool too.
 
It seems sensible that someone listens to all the recordings, and decides on
inclusion on the CD or not (I myself would prefer a CD with a wide variety of
styles and artistic quality, and I'd include everything if it's not too long
and if the sound quality is acceptable).
 
I propose that Matthias does this job because his unfinished LoopPool project
was just the same thing. We could even ask David Torn if he would feel like
participating in some way - I seem to remember that he had a similar project
in mind as well.
 
-Michael
 

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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:45:58 +0100 (MET)
From: Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiogen.fr>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: exchanging ideas/PROPOSAL
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About how looping synth via midi, Matthias asked how to do it?
Quite simple. My cubase has midi delay in it. I set the thing on the
duration I want. You can easily synced it to tempo, since it is a midi
delay. It is my only way to play long electrnically repeated phrase since
i' don't own these marvels we talk usually about. It requires a guitar
synth or anything midi. I suggest that you cut some informations in the
midi thru mode (filtering pitchbend, for example) otherwise, with some
computer, you will crash with lack of memory.

Olivier Malhomme

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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:56:52 +0100 (MET)
From: Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiogen.fr>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
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Well this is a quite developping thing. I'm afrais i would not be able to
pay 250$ for such a project, nut this double CD idea might lower the price
for everyone, and i'm quite sure we would find enough qulity things to
fill the thing....

Olivier Malhomme


On 30 Oct 1996, Michael Peters wrote:

> Matthias counts up who's interested in doing a CD ...
>  
> > So far:
> > David
> > Matthias
> > Ted
> > Collier
> > Todd
> > Ray
> > Michael
> > I see, only seven, and not very convinced / with 250$ readdy.
>  
> Several more people have replied to my original tape exchange proposal, and
> might or might not be interested in the CD thingie. Please, would the people
> who only replied to the tape proposal say if they're interested in doing the
> CD thing (with the specifics - money etc - still to be clarified) ?
>  
> Adding the people who specifically reacted to the CD proposal, my count looks
> like this (quite possible that I missed someone - please raise your hand!)
>  
> Andre LaFosse
> Dave Trenkel
> David Kirkdorffer
> David Orton
> Doug Michael
> Jon Morris
> Louis Collier Hyams
> Matthias Grob
> Michael Hughes
> Michael Peters
> Patrick Smith
> Ray Peck
> Ted R. Killian
> Todd Madson
>  
> A looping friend of mine (Leander) who has no computer/email yet would also
> like to participate.
>  
> Matthias: Has Kim already commented on the LoopPool tapes you sent him?
>  
> Anyway: If we can successfully sort out the money etc issues, there might
> easily turn out to be too many participants for 1 CD - we might have to do
> a double CD! I think this would be cool too.
>  
> It seems sensible that someone listens to all the recordings, and decides on
> inclusion on the CD or not (I myself would prefer a CD with a wide variety of
> styles and artistic quality, and I'd include everything if it's not too long
> and if the sound quality is acceptable).
>  
> I propose that Matthias does this job because his unfinished LoopPool project
> was just the same thing. We could even ask David Torn if he would feel like
> participating in some way - I seem to remember that he had a similar project
> in mind as well.
>  
> -Michael
>  
> 
> 
> 

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