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Loopers-Delight-d Digest                                Volume 96 : Issue 9

Today's Topics:
  improv. reference correction          [ Michael Preston <michpres@erols.com ]
  ..Javanese music and other repititio  [ andre <andre@monmouth.com> ]
  Re: see guitar player mag, etc        [ PMimlitsch@aol.com ]
  Re: see guitar player mag, etc        [ Jonathan Brainin <jbrainin@easyway. ]
  Re: Joni Mitchell                     [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Looper's Delight Digest!!!!!!         [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  Re: new standard tuning               [ Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuSer ]
  The latest on the West Coast Summit   [ Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuSer ]
  Re: new standard tuning               [ lx303@nicom.com (steev geest) ]
  Re: MIDI Loops                        [ Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiog ]
  Re: Joni Mitchell                     [ Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiog ]
  Re: new standard tuning               [ "S. Patrick Hickey" <hickeysp@niels ]
  Re: Joni Mitchell                     [ "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.e ]
  Re: see guitar player mag, etc        [ RA336@aol.com ]
  Re: New Joni                          [ Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski,  ]
  Re: see guitar player mag, etc        [ Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski,  ]
  Re: Loopers CD                        [ Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski,  ]
  Re: MIDI Loops                        [ Chris Chovit <cho@gomez.jpl.nasa.go ]
  Re: MIDI Loops                        [ patelj@std.teradyne.com (Josh Patel ]
  Re: Okay, let's get philosophical: P  [ "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@wolf0 ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@wolf0 ]
  echoplex help                         [ slot_head@juno.com (bret w moreland ]
  Re: MIDI Loops                        [ James Coker <jcoker@interaccess.com ]
  Re: Compilation CD suggestion         [ "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@wolf0 ]
  Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?   [ "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.e ]
  echoplex help                         [ "Bret Moreland" <Bret_Moreland@maxt ]
  Re: More on Indonesian music          [ "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.e ]
  Re: More on Indonesian music          [ "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.e ]

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:56:19 +0000
From: Michael Preston <michpres@erols.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: improv. reference correction
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Oops. The book is called "Musical Improvisation," and the author is 
Derek Bailey, not Derek Humphrey. Another good one I remember reading 
bits of, a while back, is David Sudnow's "Ways of the Hand: The 
Organization of Improvised Conduct." Michael Preston

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:56:22 -0500 (EST)
From: andre <andre@monmouth.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: ..Javanese music and other repitition
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Andre (west coast) said  ...Javanese gamelan ensemble last spring here at
school.  
>(Apparently the new gamelan which was obtained for the Javanese ensemble 
>at the beginning of last year is the finest one in North America!)  
>
>There are some definite connections between that sort of music and 
>looping, I'd say, particularly since most of the Javanese music I played 
>consisted of what could be described in Western terms as one or two 
>(occasionally more) eight or sixteen-bar cycles repeated for a looooong 
>time.  

Andre (East c.) - this made me think of a favorite composer of mine - Steve
Reich - he's often just lumped in with Philip Glass as a 'minimalist', but i
think his work is also very textural and 'morphing' like gamelan can be.. he
also incorporates a lot of stuff influenced by Afrikan drum patterns, which
can be VERY loop-y

the new Steve Reich album is great - it actually combines a lot of the media
he's worked with - voices, strings, tuned percussion, keyboard-triggered
samples, layered time shifts. check it out 
>

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:39:23 -0500
From: PMimlitsch@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: see guitar player mag, etc
Message-ID: <961103193921_1880696611@emout13.mail.aol.com>

Andre (of the east),    
  In your post you asked about any New Jersey loopists. I'm here in
Southampton, n.j. Where are you located? Also: Bon just played here in Mt.
Holly at the Down to Earth Coffeehouse in October. While I wasn't able to
make this concert (had a gig in nearby Medford same night) I understand he
plays here a couple times a year. I'll keep you posted. Any other Jersey
loopists out there?
                    ---Paul Mimlitsch (Stick Player)

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Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 20:52:23 -0500
From: Jonathan Brainin <jbrainin@easyway.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: see guitar player mag, etc
Message-ID: <327D4C57.CE5@easyway.net>
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PMimlitsch@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Andre (of the east),
>   In your post you asked about any New Jersey loopists. I'm here in
> Southampton, n.j. Where are you located? Also: Bon just played here in Mt.
> Holly at the Down to Earth Coffeehouse in October. While I wasn't able to
> make this concert (had a gig in nearby Medford same night) I understand he
> plays here a couple times a year. I'll keep you posted. Any other Jersey
> loopists out there?
>                     ---Paul Mimlitsch (Stick Player)


Add another Jersey Looper(TM???).  I live in South Orange. 
Oh, and I play Warr Guitar.

Jonathan

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:28:51 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell
Message-Id: <v01520d07aea2d22351dc@[200.254.32.121]>
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Certainly: one of the few female musicians that made it with her own
compositions and playing, not just voice and beauty.
My favourite work: Heijra

Other such musicistas:
Sweet Honey on the Rocks
Ricky Lee Jones
Badi Assad
...


Matthias

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:11:26 -0800
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To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Looper's Delight Digest!!!!!!
Message-Id: <v02140b01aea347d5fd71@[207.171.196.41]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

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Date: 04 Nov 96 03:31:36 EST
From: Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuServe.COM>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: new standard tuning
Message-ID: <961104083136_100041.247_JHB40-1@CompuServe.COM>

about Fripp's "New Standard Tuning":
 
yes, the bending possibilities are limited, but on the electric guitar you
can always use a whammy bar to bend notes. This is not the same as bending a
string with your finger but as Dave said - maybe the restriction forces you
to leave the territory you're used to, and find something new.
 
I had this musical crisis years ago when I was simply fed up with what I
played. I really couldn't help but notice that my playing repeated itself,
that I used other guitarists' phrases and chords, and I got bored to the
point of almost giving up the guitar altogether.
 
In my first Guitar Craft course in 1988, Fripp presented this different
tuning he had found and switched to, abandoning the old tuning altogether
for himself. I recognized that here was a chance for me to throw away all
the learned stuff that bored me, and jump into unknown territory.
 
Being a lazy person who doesn't practice a lot, it took me years to learn
the new tuning, but I took the chance. I tuned my guitars to the new tuning,
and never went back. It was a painful process at times because in the
beginning I couldn't play *anything* meaningful - when in a session someone
asked me to play a specific chord, I couldn't, or it took quite a while to
figure it out, and I felt like a fool. For a long time, I was unable to play
a solo because I hit wrong notes very often.
 
Eventually I got familiar with the NST, and I'm happy with it. The whole
playing and feeling of the guitar is different. There are undeniable
limitations: No more bending; playing scales is more difficult because
you have to stretch the fingers more; and some kinds of chords are impossible
to play. On the other hand, the tuning gives you the chance to learn a new,
fascinating, and equally expressive language, with a different way of
phrasing, playing scales, and new kinds of chords.
 
I'm not saying that the NST is a *better* tuning. Of course the traditional
tuning is just as limitless as the NST. For guitarists who feel happy with
the traditional tuning, and with their playing, there is no need to learn
a new tuning, but for guitarists who feel stuck, the NST is a possible way
out.
 
-Michael P
 

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Date: 04 Nov 96 03:31:39 EST
From: Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuServe.COM>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: The latest on the West Coast Summit
Message-ID: <961104083138_100041.247_JHB40-2@CompuServe.COM>

> 4) Do you have interest in doing a (probably unrehearsed) live
> collaboration with another loopist?
 
Careful when you try this. I tried live and unrehearsed collaborations with
a looping friend of mine, and the outcome wasn't always successful. Unless
everybody plays very sparingly, chances of chaos and sound overload are
good.
 
I envy you!
 
Michael in too-far-away-Germany
 

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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:52:45 -0500
From: lx303@nicom.com (steev geest)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: new standard tuning
Message-Id: <v01540b01acc03e29e995@[198.6.197.189]>
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>>C   G   D   A   E  G
>
>I do not think I will learn another tuning with a irregularity.
>
>>3) Forget about BENDING.  It will break strings, almost always.  (Of course
>>you can get away with on the bottom 3 or 4 strings if you really want.
>
>I would rather play without strings than without bending.
>
>Thanks a lot anyway.
>Matthias


   I've been using this tuning for years and have never had a problem
with breaking strings. Popping strings has more to do with your technique
then with a tuning..Or maybe your guitar setup is to blame??

    Steev

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:26:33 +0100 (MET)
From: Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiogen.fr>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: MIDI Loops
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961104122358.15399A-100000@lovelace.infobiogen.fr>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Matthias, still curious, said:
Oh I see, it like a digital effect for MIDI, not the sequencer itself you
use.
But can you control its parameters while playing so as to "freeze" a loop
for soloing or have it fade out to renew it etc?
Is there any option to multiply the delay time while playing?


Well in fact it is an effect included in the sequencer (cubase 2.0 for
Atari Computer)
There is no way to multiply delay while playing but you can choose the
midi channel for the loop, and anything can be changed on the fly
(channel, delay time, repetitions, velocity: you can even have inverse
velocity, no velocity difference, whatever..)
Olivier Malhomme

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:35:58 +0100 (MET)
From: Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiogen.fr>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961104123450.15399B-100000@lovelace.infobiogen.fr>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Matthias Grob wrote:

> Certainly: one of the few female musicians that made it with her own
> compositions and playing, not just voice and beauty.
> My favourite work: Heijra
> 
> Other such musicistas:
> Sweet Honey on the Rocks
> Ricky Lee Jones
> Badi Assad
> ...
> 
> 
> Matthias

Micheal Hedges sayed somewhere that he learnt everything as far as open
tuning are concerned, with Hejira, so.....

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:09:17 -0500
From: "S. Patrick Hickey" <hickeysp@nielsenmedia.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  new standard tuning
Message-Id: <199611041409.JAA03858@nielsenmedia.com>

In other words, RF's NST is another modified violin-based tuning:

        violin: G D A E
        NST:(C) G D A E (G)

I think NST would have been perfect fifths if the string technology
and instrument capabilities would have supported it.

I think this is not dissimilar to the tuning of a viola-de-gamba, a
fretted 6-string bowed viola-like instrument.

Pat Hickey                      ***SPH
brzrkr@nielsenmedia.com

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:31:43 -0500
From: "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell
Message-Id: <9611040931.ZM4349@sparc.arts.rpi.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Nov 3,  7:27pm, Matthias Grob wrote:
> Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell
> Certainly: one of the few female musicians that made it with her own
> compositions and playing, not just voice and beauty.

Joni is wundergruvie, but Matthias that is one *fucked* up thing to say.


> Badi Assad

ooh, "Bajee" is bad ya'll. ever checked her out?
I suppose Matthias has probably seen her live being in Brazil. Maybe her
brothers also?
Any news you might offer on Badi's progress?

collier

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:55:54 -0500
From: RA336@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: see guitar player mag, etc
Message-ID: <961104095552_1449795181@emout17.mail.aol.com>

andre wrote:

> ps -anyone out there have a MIDI MITIGATOR

- yas, I been using one for about nine years for to control all my midi
gear... very useful little item and flexible; not without it's own set of
quirks, but cool.

speaking of features in guitar player; anyone see the little blurb on my
record (produced by Torn) in the sept issue?...
the entire cd was built on guitar loops mangled and enhanced in various
ways... we had fun and looped for days..
best to all,
robby aceto

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:18:34 -0500
From: Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Phd)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: New Joni
Message-Id: <v01520d01aea3b98b65e5@[205.216.96.52]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I have read an interview with Joni ... she is using the vg8 alot and it has
helped redefine her live music in that she is able to create her esoteric
tunings quickly ...


Paul

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:27:31 -0500
From: Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Phd)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: see guitar player mag, etc
Message-Id: <v01520d02aea3bbbfe995@[205.216.96.52]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Andre (of the east),
>  In your post you asked about any New Jersey loopists. I'm here in
>Southampton, n.j. Where are you located? Also: Bon just played here in Mt.
>Holly at the Down to Earth Coffeehouse in October. While I wasn't able to
>make this concert (had a gig in nearby Medford same night) I understand he
>plays here a couple times a year. I'll keep you posted. Any other Jersey
>loopists out there?
>                    ---Paul Mimlitsch (Stick Player)


I am a loopist, experimental guitarist here in Delaware about 45 min from philly

Paul

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:36:56 -0500
From: Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Phd)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Loopers CD
Message-Id: <v01520d05aea3bdf46dfb@[205.216.96.52]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>                        Hi all
>
>        I would like to add my name to the CD list...
>
>
>                                joe
>
>
>
>At 11:33 AM 10/31/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>Adding the people who specifically reacted to the CD proposal, my count
>>>>looks
>>>>like this (quite possible that I missed someone - please raise your hand!)
>>>>
>>>>Andre LaFosse
>>>>Dave Trenkel
>>>>David Kirkdorffer
>>>>David Orton
>>>>Doug Michael
>>>>Jon Morris
>>>>Louis Collier Hyams
>>>>Matthias Grob
>>>>Michael Hughes
>>>>Michael Peters
>>>>Patrick Smith
>>>>Ray Peck
>>>>Ted R. Killian
>>>>Todd Madson
>>>
>>
>>I am interested as well.  Of course I will be listening for additional
>info.......
>>
>>
>>Steve Murrell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


I would also like to add my name to the CD list

Paul

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:12:57 -0400
From: Chris Chovit <cho@gomez.jpl.nasa.gov>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: MIDI Loops
Message-Id: <v03007801aea38dda9ff3@[192.150.34.253]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>Last I heard, there was a substantial
>>repository of Max objects programmed by Max enthusiasts, but I forgot the
>>ftp location.

Does anyone know the address of this site??  I'd be interested to check it out!

- chris

---------------------------------------
Chris Chovit
cho@gomez.jpl.nasa.gov
---------------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:20:18 -0800
From: patelj@std.teradyne.com (Josh Patel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: MIDI Loops
Message-Id: <199611041620.IAA01018@gunhawk.std.teradyne.com>

> 
> >>Last I heard, there was a substantial
> >>repository of Max objects programmed by Max enthusiasts, but I forgot the
> >>ftp location.
> 
> Does anyone know the address of this site??  I'd be interested to check it out!
> 

        I don't know about any ftp sites, but Opcode has some: 
        http://www.opcode.com/downloads/max/patches
        
Josh

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:10:55 -0500
From: "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@wolf0.vlsc.rpi.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Okay, let's get philosophical: Performance Theory time
Message-Id: <9611041210.ZM1517@wolf0.vlsc.rpi.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Oct 21,  4:07pm, Paolo Valladolid wrote:

> This looks very interesting; it reminds me of a videotape Prof. George
> Lewis showed us of an Indonesian performer who triggered samples of his own
> voice himself relating his own life story as he danced.  Do you plan to
> have your performances videotaped?

hi, loopers... I just got back and have a ton of L-D messages, so bear/bare
wid me, please. I have a feeling I'll be commenting on a portion of the 100+
messages.

George Lewis? hmmh... george, ...  you know what? If he's the
trombonist/looper then he's coming here for a residency or something, and
he's been here before... I know very little about him at this point. I have
heard of the Indonesian performer that you mention. what do ya'll know
bout george?

the show was video taped.


> Folks I have seen who have dared to perform interactive computer music
> live seemed to prefer Powerbooks instead of a full blown desktop system
> because laptops fold up nicely and are easily transported. There was a
> performer from Mills College who had a nice velvet-glove-to-computer kind
> of interactive setup.  I should have asked her and George what measures
> they take to minimize possible glitches in setup and performance.

there are several performanceelectronique' folk out there using laptops. wish
I had one also... letitia sonami(sp) is a tough cookie(and sexy as hell). she
does many glove/sensor type performances.

> No offense to David Jaffe, but for one of his performances, he just popped
> in a tape and we had to sit there and listen to it.  To me this was not

dartmouth and nyu did concerts like this. their composers actually sat in the
audience a fell asleep on their own pieces. any idea what that commentary
might be indicating?

> as interesting as watching him on MIDI violin and his partner on Radio Drum
> wreaking computer-enhanced electronic havoc.  I guess I'm of the old school
> mentality where I expect from a live performance certain elements that
can't
> be gotten from listening to the same piece from some recording.

one of most common questions/comments from our audiences on the tour was
about the justifications of performing electronic music live. this initially
caught me by surprise, then I realized that I agreed. there were a copla
pieces in the tour using max/synths that were unseen. the audience had no
visual cues to what was going on... ".....so boring, so boring..."
luckily that wasn't my pieces.

collier

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:41:29 -0500
From: "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@wolf0.vlsc.rpi.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
Message-Id: <9611041241.ZM1573@wolf0.vlsc.rpi.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

> I would like to have a spiral in the background.
> Anyone knows how to create a spiral on the puter?
>
> Matthias

what kinda spiral do yah want? QED(quite easily done)

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:43:55 MST
From: slot_head@juno.com (bret w moreland)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: echoplex help
Message-ID: <19961104.104440.22383.0.slot_head@juno.com>

I would be most appreciative if one of you would contact me about
hardware 
rework/fixes for the Echoplex.  Mike Lyon of Oberheim has not responded
to 
several Emails, for over a week.  He had promised to send me what I need,

 I asked when he would send them, then no reply since.   My problems:

1.  Loop start point moving when using nextloop.
2.  Sound becoming distorted after loop repeated for several days.

Please Email me directly  bret_moreland@maxtor.com, or slot_head@juno.com

thanks,
bret

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 12:06:28 +0000
From: James Coker <jcoker@interaccess.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: MIDI Loops
Message-ID: <327DDC40.2D65@interaccess.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Matthias Grob wrote:
> 
> Since you seem to understand programming:
> How far away from a handy looping set are the comercial sequencers?
> Which comes closest?
> Should we try to convince one to include our trip?
> Its a composition tool, after all...

Not difficult at all.  Many are already adding inline midi fx now,
with delays (too short though, and no feedback), and transpositions.
Perhaps pinging the sales reps will help with the necessary details.
What I'd like in particular is that Digidesign add additive-cycle-
recording to their DAE software so one can loop while recording,
or at least if they'd publish the interface specs to their drivers
so others can.

> 
> Jim again, full of valuable experience:
> >One can do feedback using Max, but the "code" to do that
> >has to manually remove notes when their volume (midi velocity) reaches
> >zero, otherwise the delay line can end up with a large number of
> >notes that are not played, ultimately slowing down the system.
> 
> Understandable. So you created that code? For the rest of us?

Well, it's been a few months since I looked at it, and I believe
it was in a bit of a mess....  I may be able to dig out the 
essential delay component in the next few weeks.

IRCAM (www.ircam.fr) used to have a big max site, but I can't seem 
to find the max stuff anymore, maybe the Opcode site has 
replaced it. 

jim

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:09:01 -0500
From: "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@wolf0.vlsc.rpi.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Compilation CD suggestion
Message-Id: <9611041309.ZM1615@wolf0.vlsc.rpi.edu>
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hey all,
I kinda second the idea from andre' on private burnings...

I have a cd burner, as does some others on the list. I've done plenty of
dexktop cd projects without going too much in the hole...
we could get good deals on bulk cds...

collier

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:55:37 -0500
From: "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: How about a Loopers-Delight CD?
Message-Id: <9611041355.ZM1681@wolf0.vlsc.rpi.edu>
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concerning loop guitar material...

for the cd


I am a "use the tool that works" blendo artist. so, you don't have to count
my pieces as guitar loops, cause I many other objects.

collier

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 10:26:17 MST
From: "Bret Moreland" <Bret_Moreland@maxtor.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: echoplex help
Message-ID: <vines.PP59+tQWTmA@Longmont64.Maxtor.COM>
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I would be most appreciative if one of you would contact me about hardware 
rework/fixes for the Echoplex.  Mike Lyon of Oberheim has not responded to 
several Emails, for over a week.  He had promised to send me what I need, 
 I 
asked when he would send them, then no reply since.   My problems:

1.  Loop start point moving when using nextloop.
2.  Sound becoming distorted after loop repeated for several days.

Please Email me directly  bret_moreland@maxtor.com.

thanks,
bret

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:21:35 -0500
From: "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: More on Indonesian music
Message-Id: <9611041421.ZM1703@wolf0.vlsc.rpi.edu>
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On Nov 2,  2:49pm, The Man Himself wrote:
> Subject: More on Indonesian music

the monkey chant as along the same traditions of of some hindu and south east
asian works such as "Ramakien" or ramayana and many others.
one of the primary differences is in balinese presentation... wild!
this types of works are stories told-myths- creation of the world or the like
and are basically improvised with fantastic amounts of drama and enthusiasm.
I've seen the monkey chant done in what amounts to three rounds or something
with a lead story teller.

ever heard of hanuman the white monkey?

collier

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:23:32 -0500
From: "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: More on Indonesian music
Message-Id: <9611041423.ZM1707@wolf0.vlsc.rpi.edu>
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andre'

you guys had a badass(read this as: completely superwonderful)
balinese dance teacher at calarts the last time I was there... is she still
there?

collier

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