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Loopers-Delight-d Digest                                Volume 97 : Issue 1

Today's Topics:
  Re: Paradis Loop Delay vs. Echoplex   [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: JamMan misleading                 [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hu ]
  Echoplex price increase rumor         [ cwb@platinum.com (Clark) ]
  JamMan Stereo - D'oh!                 [ "Jason N. Joseph" <73311.213@compus ]
  Re[2]: Vortex Applications Notes [Re  [ "Todd Madson" <Todd.Madson@LaserMas ]
  Hi! all, and head to head loop compa  [ Trevor Bajus <nyfac2@nyfac.com> ]
  JamMan Rumors                         [ Ed Drake <ejmd@erols.com> ]
  mailing list                          [ Kevin Miller <km15@cornell.edu> ]
  RE: JamMan Rumors                     [ "Ott, John" <John_Ott@ATK.COM> ]
  RE: JamMan Rumors                     [ "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com> ]
  RE: JamMan Rumors                     [ "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com> ]
  Re: Hi! all, and head to head loop c  [ Trevor Bajus <nyfac2@nyfac.com> ]
  Re: RE: JamMan Rumors                 [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
  Re: mailing list                      [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  Re: RE: JamMan Rumors                 [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]
  Re: RE: JamMan Rumors                 [ "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com> ]
  Just tried the Boomerang.             [ Trevor Bajus <nyfac2@nyfac.com> ]
  RE: JamMan Rumors                     [ Jon Durant <74074.1316@CompuServe.C ]
  Re: RE: JamMan Rumors                 [ "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com> ]
  Re[2]: JamMan Rumors                  [ "Todd Madson" <Todd.Madson@LaserMas ]

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 04:17:26 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Paradis Loop Delay vs. Echoplex
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Michael asked:
>What do you think are the most important differences between the two boxes?

- smaller, lighter
- special Pedal-Board with 7 Keys, connected with an ordinary 1/4" cable.
- less noise
- Output-Volume control
- up to 9 independent Loops, between which you can switch and copy in
various manners.
- MIDIclock out: the tempo of a drum-machine can be defined by the loop length.
- 28 Parameters, that are not lost at power off and do not stop the sound
while changed. They replace the Reset Parameters and the DIP switches and
allow new things like :
- Reverse / Replace only / Record2Insert (all on INSERT)
- Sound triggered RECORD
- Redefinition of the loop start point
- MIDI Notes or -Controllers or -ProgChange selectable.
- MIDI Dump and -Load of the loops (slow!)
- In the update, there are be better solutions for brother synced playing.

cons:
- I prefer the PARADIS footswitches (adaptable to use with the one cord, too).
- You cannot tune it down with an external clock any more.
- less beautyfull, for my taste...

>I own two Paradis Loop Delays now and I'm quite happy with them. Should I
>bother
>trying to sell them (which won't be easy, and I won't get a lot of money for
>them because nobody knows them) and buy an Echoplex instead? I'm not sure if
>reverse and multiple loops are reason enough.

The main reason might be that you want to brother with your friend and
unfortunately, the BrotherSync of the LOOP delay and Plex are not
compatible.

Remember that the LOOP delay was the first dedicated unit for looping and
there are only a hundred of them, so they might have a high colectors value
in a few years.

Hope this helps
Matthias

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:48:22 GMT
From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: JamMan misleading
Message-Id: <24590.199701021248@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>**Please don't insult my or any other consumer's intelligence by claiming
>that
>a) this is not misleading, and b) having "stereo" outs on the jamman when 
>looped output is in mono is in any way useful.**

I think we need some basic, ground-rules ettiquette here.

Jon did not design the Jamman.  Jon did not sell you your jamman.  Jon
worked for Lexicon, but doesn't any more.  I really think you, and a few
others on this thread, are way out of line attacking Jon for a product that
is produced by the company Jon used to work for.  Similarly, it would be
out of order attacking Kim or Matthias for the Plex and PARADIS.  We're
mature, grown-up people here, and don't need to start behaving like
Congress.  ;)

Please, people, be nice.

Michael

Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes      Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg,
Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979        University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K.
        "Everything in moderation, including moderation" (Zen Proverb)

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:26:55 -0500
From: cwb@platinum.com (Clark)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Echoplex price increase rumor
Message-Id: <199701021526.KAA19760@octopus.ab.platinum.com>

So its Jan 2.  Does anyone know if the Echoplex price increase
rumor is true?  Is it now $1000?

Clark

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:32:37 -0500
From: "Jason N. Joseph" <73311.213@compuserve.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: JamMan Stereo - D'oh!
Message-ID: <199701021132_MC1-DFB-6590@compuserve.com>

>You're quite correct: it's not your fault that you were given incorrect
information from these retailers. And I'm personally very sorry if you feel
that
you were mislead. <

Ah, therein lies the rub. You're right of course; it's the retailers who,
having
represented themselves as products experts & etc, did the bulk of the
misleading. Apparently my fury has been misdirected... Please accept my
humble apologies for the rant... Should have waited a few days before
writing that one.

I also shouldn't have fallen into the trap of believing anything a retailer
says... how stupid of me. I do still feel, however, that the fact that the
looping capabilities of the JamMan are mono only should be CLEARLY
and prominently displayed on the unit, in advertising, etc... Again, any
musician who sees such a device, and sees that it has "stereo" outputs,
is going to naturally assume, unless knocked over the head with a brick
(d'oh!) that the output will be in stereo. If this was clearly displayed on
the
unit then we wouldn't have to rely on the misleading input of sales people.

>Mono or stereo was never discussed...So at worse they're guilty by
omission.

Case in point. Again I was daft not to researched it well enough on my own,
and accept my share in that guilt. Again sorry to have ranted.

And all stereo/mono discussion aside, I am still having an extended love
affair with my JamMan... Finally popped in the extra memory a few months
ago, and am in looping heaven ... Everything from African percussion to
bizarre conversation to guitars & random found noise, etc.... Aaaahhhh...

jj

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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 97 11:24:23 CST
From: "Todd Madson" <Todd.Madson@LaserMaster.Com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, ToddM@lasermaster.com
Subject: Re[2]: Vortex Applications Notes [Redux]
Message-Id: <9700028522.AA852233205@ccmailgate.LaserMaster.Com>

Re: Deck:

> I remember that first flush of joy at using Deck well, suddenly it seems
> that you have incredible power. Deck is a great piece of software, not
> without quirks and even a few bugs, but very powerful. I edited and
> mastered our first CD on it 18 momths ago, and now we're working on the
> 2nd.

Very cool.  I'm actually convinced that I can now do a real project
with just the equipment in my home.  Now all I need is a removable
cartridge drive (SyJet perhaps?) so I can have multiple removable
audio carts.  Then maybe a CD burner for one-offs.  This is so much
easier than trying to afford an ADAT or DA-88.

> Do you know about the deck-users list? It's very handy.

Yep - I'm on it.  I'm learning new things all the time there.

>> Now, I will be entering the much desired notes on the net here soon - I just
>> need to take the time and DO it.
>>
> Great, I expect my Vortex to arrive any day now...

I did a 12-track project where 10 of the tracks were vortex processed.
Some of the nicest stereo textures known anyuwhere.  I love that box!

Todd Madson.

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 10:01:55 +0000
From: Trevor Bajus <nyfac2@nyfac.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Hi! all, and head to head loop comparason?
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Hello all.  I just joined the group last night.  Now that I have some time today to write I 
have a few questions...

I don't know if anyone cares, but my name is Trevor and this list was recomended to me 
by a guy I met named Geoff.  I have done quite a bit of ambient stuff in the past, but the 
limit of my looping experience comes from using a Boss pitchshifter/delay pedal with the 
feedback cranked up.  I found out that I could do loops on the pedal on accident- all of my 
other delay units go into crazed runnaway with a short delay and full regeneration. That an 
two volume pedals and I was off.

I don't know whether or not it is assumed that I am a guitarist, but I am and also, of 
course, a big Fripp&Eno fan (more so when they are together than when they are apart) 
and I cut my teeth on Cocteau Twins/Xmal Deutchland(sp?) and the rest of the 4AD ouvre.  
In  recent years (the past four or so) my sound has become much more raw, being 
influenced greatly by jazz (Coleman, Ribot, Cherry, Coltrane, Zorn), DC post-punk 
(Fugazi, Jawbox, Discord Records in general) and NY noise (Sonic Youth, et.al.).

Anyway, I'm glad to have found the newsgroup because I want to buy a looper pedal 
proper.  I am an improvisational kind of guy but I have wielded incredably complex 
combinations of pedals an rack gear before on stage.  Complexity is not (really) a problem.  
What is important is that there are no deadspots or dropout when changing patches, and 
that all of the coll functions can be controlled by my feet.  I'd love to able to reverse the 
loops as I know that some can do. 

It also should be able to take a beating.

I looked around last night until my eyes spun, but I could not find direct comparisons of 
what seems to me to be the Big Three; the JamMan, Echoplex, and Boomerang units.  A 
cursory inspection makes me think that this group seems to be slanted towards the 
Echoplex.  Why?

I am interested in comparisons between the units- faves, raves, and disgust.  Don't forget 
to discuss sound quality too, should you choose to participate.

Sorry for talking your ear off.


Trevor

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:40:21 -0400
From: Ed Drake <ejmd@erols.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: JamMan Rumors
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Hello,
   I have heard from 2 different people I know that Lexicon is no longer
manufacturing the JamMan. Has anyone else heard this too ? The 2 people
heard it from retailers, one was told Lexicon was coming out with something
new at NAMM, which I kind of doubt. John Durant have you heard anything
about this from anyone at Lexicon or is this another case of retailer's
ignorance and misinformation ?

Ed Drake

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:48:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Kevin Miller <km15@cornell.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: mailing list
Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970103104831.3d3f50e6@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

      Could I please be placed on the Loopers mailing list?  Thanks very
much       Kevin

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:18:55 -0600
From: "Ott, John" <John_Ott@ATK.COM>
To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: JamMan Rumors
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=ATK%l=EXCHANGE_MN1-970103161855Z-11698@Exchange_MN1.ATK.COM>

>>
>Hello,
>   I have heard from 2 different people I know that Lexicon is no longer
>manufacturing the JamMan. Has anyone else heard this too ? The 2 people
>heard it from retailers, one was told Lexicon was coming out with something
>new at NAMM, which I kind of doubt. John Durant have you heard anything
>about this from anyone at Lexicon or is this another case of retailer's
>ignorance and misinformation ?
>
Ed Drake<

I heard this too from a guitar salesman at Washington Music Center.  He
was out, as was Vennemans (Rockville Md).  I had to go to the web to
get  mine.  (Musicians Friend, BPM had them listed at a lower price but
they too were out).  Have not  heard anything about a replacement.
(Perhaps they'll expand the Vortex's delay capabilities? Just guessing)

>john
>
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:21:00 -0500
From: "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: JamMan Rumors
Message-Id: <9701031631.AA08985@beryllium.lexicon.com>

>From Ed Drake came:

Hello,
   I have heard from 2 different people I know that Lexicon is no longer
manufacturing the JamMan. Has anyone else heard this too ? The 2 people
heard it from retailers, one was told Lexicon was coming out with something
new at NAMM, which I kind of doubt. John Durant have you heard anything
about this from anyone at Lexicon or is this another case of retailer's
ignorance and misinformation ?

Ed Drake

Yes, it is true that we are no longer making the JAMMAN.  There may be 
limited availability at some stores.  We do not currently have any plans to 
release another dedicated looper.

Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I 
can do for you.

Best regards,

Greg Hogan
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-280-0499

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:31:00 -0500
From: "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: JamMan Rumors
Message-Id: <9701031641.AA09103@beryllium.lexicon.com>

john asked:
(Perhaps they'll expand the Vortex's delay capabilities? Just guessing)

>john
>
>
>
>

No John et al,

We are no longer making the Vortex either.  There is limited looping 
capability in the MPX1(1 loop of up to 2 seconds.)  The looping in the MPX1 
can be used with pitch shifting, chorusing, equalization, modulation and 
reverb simultaneously.

Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I 
can do for you.

Best regards,

Greg Hogan
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-280-0499
email:ghogan@lexicon.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 12:40:05 +0000
From: Trevor Bajus <nyfac2@nyfac.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Hi! all, and head to head loop comparason?
Message-ID: <32CCFE25.264B@nyfac.com>
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Ott, John wrote:

>I picked the Jamman over the Echoplex on cost.   The Echoplex does have
>some nice features, but the JamMan has what I needed (longer delay and loops than
>what was on my RP6).  I was disappointed  to find out  It did not
> record in stereo.(Link from Web seller  indicated stereo in/out but didn't indicate
> only mono record)But I have a Mackie 1202VLZ  mixer so I can send  all the stereo
> effects from the RP 6to the mackie and put the Jamman on an Aux out/in loop in mono.
> Not perfect but wil lwork for now.

What are the big differences between the JamMan and Echoplex? What does the Echoplex 
have that you can't live without?

Does anyone have the Boomerang?

Trevor

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:13:11 -0500
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: RE: JamMan Rumors
Message-ID: <970103121311_1756356004@emout12.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 1/3/97 12:30:58 PM, you wrote:

<<Yes, it is true that we are no longer making the JAMMAN.  There may be 
limited availability at some stores.  We do not currently have any plans to 
release another dedicated looper.

Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I 
can do for you.

Best regards,

Greg Hogan
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-280-0499>>

Well, guys, now's the time to hammer Lexicon with requests for them to
utilise the expandability of the MPX...which HAS a 2-sec looper installed,
AND it can be used simultaneously with 4 other (true stereo) FX--- (WARNING!!
I don't know for SURE that the looper is stereo, but the delays in the unit
apparently are)---PLUS their world-class reverb, all for under a grand!
The PCM-80 also is expandable to over 42 sec STEREO delay with standard
30-pin SIMMS, but it's twice the $$$, unexpanded, and ain't a real multiFX...
(DOUBLE WARNING: I am NOT a Lexicon employee OR a musical gear sales person.
My info comes from reading sales lit. and talking to Lexicon tech support
folks. SO IT IS TRUE ONLY TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT ACTUAL EXPERIENCE!
Let's find out, huh?)
David

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:26:26 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: mailing list
Message-Id: <v02140b01aef2ffbda720@[207.171.196.16]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>      Could I please be placed on the Loopers mailing list?  Thanks very
>much       Kevin

ok, I added you. Welcome!

kim

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:39:43 -0800
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: RE: JamMan Rumors
Message-Id: <v01510102aef30f05670c@[128.193.5.5]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>In a message dated 1/3/97 12:30:58 PM, you wrote:
>
><<Yes, it is true that we are no longer making the JAMMAN.  There may be
>limited availability at some stores.  We do not currently have any plans to
>release another dedicated looper.
>
>Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I
>can do for you.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Greg Hogan
>Lexicon Customer Service
>Phone 617-280-0372
>FAX 617-280-0499>>
>
Is this really the wisest move on the part of Lexicon? I've had 4 friends
in my area, not exactly a hotbed of musical activity, pick up JamBoys or
Echoplexi in the last 6 months. I also see a lot more interest on the net
and in the press for looping devices, and not just on this list. And I see
a lot more musicians using them onstage in the last year. Maybe loopers are
devices that needed some time for the public to really get interested in
them, and that's starting to happen now. Is there any possibility on
Lexicon re-thinking this decision?

>Well, guys, now's the time to hammer Lexicon with requests for them to
>utilise the expandability of the MPX...which HAS a 2-sec looper installed,
>AND it can be used simultaneously with 4 other (true stereo) FX--- (WARNING!!
>I don't know for SURE that the looper is stereo, but the delays in the unit
>apparently are)---PLUS their world-class reverb, all for under a grand!
>The PCM-80 also is expandable to over 42 sec STEREO delay with standard
>30-pin SIMMS, but it's twice the $$$, unexpanded, and ain't a real multiFX...
>(DOUBLE WARNING: I am NOT a Lexicon employee OR a musical gear sales person.
>My info comes from reading sales lit. and talking to Lexicon tech support
>folks. SO IT IS TRUE ONLY TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT ACTUAL EXPERIENCE!
>Let's find out, huh?)
>David

How exactly is the MPX expanable? I use an LXP-5 for looping all the time,
I love the idea of all the pitch/reverb processing after the loop. If the
MPX could be expanded to do long loops, it could be a killer box. But
frankly, I'm skeptical that Lexicon would leave us this possibility...

later,
Dave T.

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel, NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: improv@peak.org
self promotional web-site: http://www.peak.org/~improv/
"A squid eating dough in a polyethelene bag is fast
and bulbous, got me?"
                                     -Captain Beefheart
________________________________________________________

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:24:00 -0500
From: "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: RE: JamMan Rumors
Message-Id: <9701031933.AA09972@beryllium.lexicon.com>

Regarding the Lexicon MPX1 David stated:" (WARNING!!
I don't know for SURE that the looper is stereo, but the delays in the unit
apparently are)"

I am sorry to say that the looping is done in mono.

Best rregards,


Greg Hogan
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-280-0499
email:ghogan@lexicon.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 15:24:53 +0000
From: Trevor Bajus <nyfac2@nyfac.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Just tried the Boomerang.
Message-ID: <32CD24C5.675F@nyfac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Well I just got a chance to try out the Boomerang loop pedal.

It was very easy to use and had some cool feature on it, but the sound quality was a bit 
rough. The loops would be great for textureal stuff were definition is not that important, 
but playing leads on top of a simple rhythm figure just wasn't working for me.  The 
salesman said that by adjusting the trim would help, but I don't know if that could be all 
that much of a help.

If anyone disagrees, let me know.  I thought the Boomerang would be the pedal for me.

Sigh...

Trevor

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Date: 03 Jan 97 15:14:25 EST
From: Jon Durant <74074.1316@CompuServe.COM>
To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: JamMan Rumors
Message-ID: <970103201424_74074.1316_GHQ47-1@CompuServe.COM>

Hi Gang,

Ed queried:
>   I have heard from 2 different people I know that Lexicon is no longer
>manufacturing the JamMan. Has anyone else heard this too ? The 2 people
>heard it from retailers, one was told Lexicon was coming out with >something
new at NAMM, which I kind of doubt. John Durant have you heard >anything about
this from anyone at Lexicon or is this another case of >retailer's ignorance and
misinformation ?

What I know is this: when the JamMen are gone from the warehouse, (when I left
there were still a good many tying up inventory dollars...) they'll be gone for
good. Unless something dramatic has happened to change things, but I doubt it.

As for new products at NAMM, I'm aware of the MPX-1 but don't believe it has
much in the way of looping capabilities. There are other products in the
MPX-category in development, but I know that "Loop" is a four letter word round
those parts. And, since I wasn't on the beta team for the MPX-1 as promised, I
doubt I'll be getting any inside info any time soon. 

Later,
Jon

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:09:00 -0500
From: "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: RE: JamMan Rumors
Message-Id: <9701032019.AA10166@beryllium.lexicon.com>

In response to me saying this:
><<Yes, it is true that we are no longer making the JAMMAN.  There may be
>limited availability at some stores.  We do not currently have any plans to
>release another dedicated looper.
>
>Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I
>can do for you.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Greg Hogan
>Lexicon Customer Service
>Phone 617-280-0372
>FAX 617-280-0499>>
>

David T. asks:"Is this really the wisest move on the part of Lexicon? I've 
had 4 friends
in my area, not exactly a hotbed of musical activity, pick up JamBoys or
Echoplexi in the last 6 months. I also see a lot more interest on the net
and in the press for looping devices, and not just on this list. And I see
a lot more musicians using them onstage in the last year. Maybe loopers are
devices that needed some time for the public to really get interested in
them, and that's starting to happen now. Is there any possibility on
Lexicon re-thinking this decision?"

It seems to me that interest in JAMMAN has peaked only after we stopped 
shipping them and the big instrument suppliers offered them at heavily 
discount prices.  JAMMAN would probably require a new design to be re 
released as some of the parts that were available at the time that  the 
JAMMAN was designed are no longer available in quantities sufficient for 
manufacturing.  I would say that it is not very likely that we will come out 
with another dedicated looping device in the near future.  JAMMAN was very 
successful in the emotional response that we got from most people who 
purchased it, however the volume of product that was actually sold was not 
sufficient enough as to elicit a very warm feeling from the people who make 
the decisions about what we make and what we do not make.

David T also stated "How exactly is the MPX expandable? I use an LXP-5 for 
looping all the time,
I love the idea of all the pitch/reverb processing after the loop. If the
MPX could be expanded to do long loops, it could be a killer box. But
frankly, I'm skeptical that Lexicon would leave us this possibility..."

The MPX1 is expandable via software.  I am not aware of any plans to offer 
expanded delay memory.  It certainly will be more entertaining as a looper 
than the LXP5.

Best regards,

Greg Hogan
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-280-0499
email:ghogan@lexicon.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 14:47:50 CST
From: "Todd Madson" <Todd.Madson@LaserMaster.Com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, ToddM@lasermaster.com
Subject: Re[2]: JamMan Rumors
Message-Id: <9700038523.AA852331635@ccmailgate.LaserMaster.Com>

Um, guys:

Since the Vortex hit guitar center at blowout prices, maybe the
Jam Man will also hit guitar center with similar prices in the
future.

And, for those who are bemoaning the lack of stereo: get a Vortex.
The nicest, smoothest, ambient sounding stereo textures around.
I don't know if it's true stereo or not, but it sounds great.

Todd Madson.
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Subject: RE: JamMan Rumors
From:    Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com at Internet
Date:    1/3/97  2:31 PM

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Hi Gang,

Ed queried:
>   I have heard from 2 different people I know that Lexicon is no longer
>manufacturing the JamMan. Has anyone else heard this too ? The 2 people
>heard it from retailers, one was told Lexicon was coming out with >something
new at NAMM, which I kind of doubt. John Durant have you heard >anything about
this from anyone at Lexicon or is this another case of >retailer's ignorance and
misinformation ?

What I know is this: when the JamMen are gone from the warehouse, (when I left
there were still a good many tying up inventory dollars...) they'll be gone for
good. Unless something dramatic has happened to change things, but I doubt it.

As for new products at NAMM, I'm aware of the MPX-1 but don't believe it has
much in the way of looping capabilities. There are other products in the
MPX-category in development, but I know that "Loop" is a four letter word round
those parts. And, since I wasn't on the beta team for the MPX-1 as promised, I
doubt I'll be getting any inside info any time soon. 

Later,
Jon



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