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Loopers-Delight-d Digest                                Volume 97 : Issue 12

Today's Topics:
  Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V97 #9   [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
  Lexicon MXP-1                         [ angel@matisse.pet.upenn.edu (Emmanu ]
  RE: Creativity and Technique          [ Michael Peters <100041.247@compuser ]
  RE: New Lex ad                        [ "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com> ]
  Re: New Lex ad                        [ James Coker <jcoker@interaccess.com ]
  RE: Creativity and Technique          [ Kevin Miller <km15@cornell.edu> ]
  RE: Lexicon MXP-1                     [ "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com> ]
  Re: Creative doldrums and compressor  [ The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CAL ]
  Lexicon Prime Time Delay              [ finley@ecst.csuchico.edu (Matthew F ]
  Re: RE: Lexicon MXP-1                 [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
  torn and fripp                        [ neato@pipeline.com ]
  Re: creative isolation                [ Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@wayneswo ]
  Re: New Lex ad                        [ KILLINFO@aol.com ]
  Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @  [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]
  Torn                                  [ Alan.Maguire@mercer.ie ]
  Re: Creative doldrums and compressor  [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hu ]
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ Kevin Simonson <simonson@uis.edu> ]
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hu ]
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ Kevin Simonson <simonson@uis.edu> ]
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ Paul <pebatlan@earthlink.net> ]
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ krevis@blarg.net (Kurt Revis) ]
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ neato@pipeline.com ]
  Re: Creative doldrums and compressor  [ Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net> ]
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com> ]
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hu ]
  oberheim echoplex used with midi foo  [ "Janet R. Underhill" <105054.352@co ]

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:40:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V97 #9
Message-ID: <970121114016_1012630912@emout10.mail.aol.com>

jj:
<<Sometimes I yearn for the days when I knew 
virtually *nothing* about the guitar and randomly abused the
instrument to make beautiful noise.
>>
I've found I can regain that golden "beginner's mind" state of ignorant bliss
by collecting devices that restructure/deconstruct/derange the guitar's basic
sound and/or tuning. Best device so far (by a VERY wide margin): VG-8 (THIS
is the box, btw, that seems to require a stereo looping implant!)
Since it allows me to complete change the timbre, attack, and/or pitch of any
note, from picking velocity or pedal control while remaining completely
"live"  and, for the most part, "guitar-like," i.e. no conversion delay
(string scrapes, slapping, mutes, etc., all completely fair game), I'm not
only inspired to attack the guitar in new ways, but even my old tricks and
tired licks are reborn as jumping off places for new territory. This has
become the most reliable way for me to invoke that exstasis that, to my great
delight, has been the topic around here lately. It DOES feel like home!
Much grass...i mean, Tanks, ya'll!
dp

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 11:46:08 EST
From: angel@matisse.pet.upenn.edu (Emmanuel Angel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Lexicon MXP-1
Message-Id: <9701211646.AA17275@matisse.pet.upenn.edu.noname>

Has anyone out there purchased or tried out the MXP-1?  I'm curious to
get some descriptions of the sound quality, subjective reactions to the
unit as a whole.  I understand it does have some morphing capabilities
and some algorithms that are (exactly?) like those in Vortex.

I'm particularly interested in the reverbs - how they might compare with,
say, a Reflex or LXP-15.

Mickey

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:34:30 -0500
From: Michael Peters <100041.247@compuserve.com>
To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Creativity and Technique
Message-ID: <199701211234_MC1-F9F-1C4D@compuserve.com>

about creativity and the necessity of technique ... 

"Whatever technique you have on your instrument at any given moment is
always good enough to say something. If you can't find the thing to say,
that's what you've got to work on."
(David Torn)

I think that says it all in a nutshell.

Michael Peters   
private:        100041.247@compuserve.com
work:   mp@harold-scholz.de
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters

(Never whistle while you pee)

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:08:00 -0500
From: "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: New Lex ad
Message-Id: <9701211819.AA21503@beryllium.lexicon.com>

Michael stated:

The new Lex processor - the MPX? - ad slogan is wonderful.

"The MPX - it does everything you expect"

And then asked:

Is this an attempt to distance the company from the unexpected Vortex, Greg?

BTW, on a similar subject, is Lex going to expand its Web pages, Greg?

Dear Michael,

Please do not ask me to explain where our ad copy comes from.  If you had 
much experience with our LXP5 you would know even more about the 
unexpected<G>

We do plan on expanding our web page into pages in the springtime.  We are 
still shipping the Reflex and I will gladly supply any information that you 
want (off of this list.)  Please forward me your email address and/or fax # 
and I will have the information sent to you.

Best regards,

Greg
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-280-0499
email: ghogan@lexicon.com

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:28:17 +0000
From: James Coker <jcoker@interaccess.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: New Lex ad
Message-ID: <32E4B654.61F2@interaccess.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Dr M. P. Hughes wrote:
> 
> The new Lex processor - the MPX? - ad slogan is wonderful.
> 
> "The MPX - it does everything you expect"
> 
> Is this an attempt to distance the company from the unexpected Vortex, Greg?
> 

I heard from a Sweetwater rep that the new box has some interesting
patches in the Chorus bank, with names such as centrifuge and 
orbits....


jim

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:03:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Kevin Miller <km15@cornell.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE: Creativity and Technique
Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970121140418.2f6f8978@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 12:34 PM 1/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>about creativity and the necessity of technique ... 
>
>"Whatever technique you have on your instrument at any given moment is
>always good enough to say something. If you can't find the thing to say,
>that's what you've got to work on."
>(David Torn)
>
>I think that says it all in a nutshell.

       Sure does! I think many of us on this list were expressing
_something_ shortly after picking up our chosen instrument, even if it was
with a few chords. We knew (and still know) that we had a lot more to learn,
but it's in our nature to speak thru our instruments whatever our level of
technical expertise. I also don't think it's necessary to ignore our
instrument or drop 2 grand to realign our approach (although I've certainly
done these!)- I do think it's important to have fun and listen. We'll always
have influences in our playing. They'll come out one way or the other, but
when we're playing, we'll recognize things that are distinctly ours. These
are worth taking note of and expanding on- in the process we'll develope
more of an distinct identity, gain satisfaction, become better listeners
etc. - at least that's how it works for me. I'd like to hear what others'
experiences are- this is a great discussion!

     Kevin 

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:47:00 -0500
From: "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Lexicon MXP-1
Message-Id: <9701211857.AA21607@beryllium.lexicon.com>

Micky asked:

Has anyone out there purchased or tried out the MXP-1?  I'm curious to
get some descriptions of the sound quality, subjective reactions to the
unit as a whole.  I understand it does have some morphing capabilities
and some algorithms that are (exactly?) like those in Vortex.

I'm particularly interested in the reverbs - how they might compare with,
say, a Reflex or LXP-15.

Mickey

Dear Mickey et al,

I'll stay off the list on this one except to answer Mickeys specific 
question regarding Reverb.  The MPX1 offers a wider variety of reverbs than 
the REFLEX and the LXP15 and I doubt that many people will insist that the 
REFLEX or LXP15 sound better than the MPX1

Let me know if you have any questions.

regards,

Greg
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-280-0499
email: ghogan@lexicon.com

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:27:17 -0800 (PST)
From: The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Creative doldrums and compressors
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970121112352.5515A-100000@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Tue, 21 Jan 1997 KRosser414@aol.com wrote:

> On a completely unrelated technical note, for seekers of the oft-sought TC
> Electronics Sustain/Para EQ pedal that have been unable to find one, I have
> some potentially encouraging news.  I visited the TC booth at NAMM over the
> weekend and was introduced to another Danish company they've become
> affiliated with (exactly how the affiliation extends, I'm not sure, i.e., it
> might be just for marketing purposes) called Carl Martin.  CM makes a
> compressor/Limiter pedal that is apparently modeled *somewhat* upon the old
> TC pedal.  I didn't get to play it myself, so I don't want it to sound like
> too informed an endorsement, but I did listen to them demo it and I think
> it's definitely worth trying out when they start appearing at retailers (NAMM
> was their American debut - they said they should be out and around "very
> soon").

I tried the Carl Martin compressor at the TC booth, and it was quite nice,
although I was dismayed that it doesn't do the famous Bill Frissel
"squeeze" trick (wherein lowering the volume level on the guitar can
result in the threshold of the compressor causing notes to fade in).  I
don't know the exact setting to use on this on either the TC or the Carl
Martin, so there's a chance that it actually has provisions for that
technique, but when I asked the guy at the booth about it, he didn't seem
to know what I was talking about.  However, it does have a ridiculously
copious amount of dynamic squashing built in.  It lists for about $250. 

--Andre

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:19:29 -0800 (PST)
From: finley@ecst.csuchico.edu (Matthew F. McCabe)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Lexicon Prime Time Delay
Message-Id: <v01530500af096b49715b@[204.119.201.28]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Greetings!

Does anybody have any experience with Lexicon's Prime Time Delay?  A buddy
of mine is selling one.  Is it suitable for loopage?  How much is it worth?
Thanks!

Oh....he's also got an Eventide 1745M.....which is a mystery to me.

Matt


------------------------------------------------------------
King Never   http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~finley/kingnever.html
------------------------------------------------------------
Matthew F. McCabe
Able Cain
King Never
Marathon Records



      

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:19:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: RE: Lexicon MXP-1
Message-ID: <970121161843_505104339@emout04.mail.aol.com>

Both Sound on Sound and EQ (or was it Mix?...I can never keep 'em straight)
have done recent, positive "previews", and the brochure is actually
informative (the one I got from Lex direct included a preset list-a la
Eventide; nice). On paper at least, it seems a price/performance winner, and
surely the audio quality must be serious--"it's a Lex!"--and it needs to be
an M2000 killer. This box has some truly a-typical control and MIDI
functions: a MIDI (not audio) arpeggiator, a/b glide/morph, ADR's and
velocity envelopes that will output MIDI control data.
Among the more intriguing of the 56 fx are Aerosol, Orbits, and Centrifuge 1
and 2, plus overdrive(!). Only obvious dissappointments I can see are: only
50 user locations (i'd fill that many in an afternoon), no card slot, and the
LOOPER is MONO! For time-variant massaging of loops made elsewhere, tho, it's
pretty attractive.
I do wonder about that "extra internal slot" or whatever it is that I've
heard was built in...
Words to live by: "...when you can't be playing, read product literature, at
least while in body."

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:32:12 -0500
From: neato@pipeline.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: torn and fripp
Message-Id: <v01540b01af0a9f9903ed@[38.26.22.21]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

neato says:
in light of all the talk about fripp and torn lately, i find it fairly
hilarious that in the recent guitar player poll(this months issue) torn has
been voted #1 experimental guitarist over the #2 fripp!  time to start
"ignoring" both of them?haha
cheers

                                     all my mistakes were once acts of genius
                                                       neato@pipeline com

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:00:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: creative isolation
Message-Id: <199701212200.OAA29487@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> Paolo:
> >I recently went through a stage where I felt Pat Metheny, the King
> >Crimson players, Allan Holdsworth, John McLaughlin and Fred Frith (please
> >don't be offended if I left out the name of your favorite guitarist) pretty 
> >much said everything I ever wanted to say on guitar so I stopped playing the 
> >guitar. I haven't played it seriously in almost a year now.
> 
> That's a shame - just because one hears an eloguent speaker, who expresses
> your views exactly, it doesn't require one to shut up or learn another
> language because one feels one has nothing to say.  There is a romantic

That was one reason, but it wasn't the only one. I've always wanted to
try other instruments and thus have been turning my attention to those
avenues.  At present, I've become much more interested in rhythm and
texture than "singing through guitar".

Paolo Valladolid
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:31:02 -0500 (EST)
From: KILLINFO@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: New Lex ad
Message-ID: <970121203022_1692074233@emout06.mail.aol.com>

Mr. Phelps

>  Expains a bit perhaps about Los Angeles Freeways. 
>  Dont try this at home kids! :-)

Ahem, the conditions of L.A. freeways aside, for the record 
Mr. morse lived in Florida at the time! :-)

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 05:57:51 -0500
From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)
To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @ Guitar Center
Message-ID: <01BC0829.36498340@mark.asisoftware.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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I just received Guitar Center's "January Inventory Meltdown."  On page =
9, it lists the Lexicon Jamman on sale at the following Guitar Center =
branches for $199.66:

- Detroit, MI
- Southfield, MI
- Chicago, IL
- Twin Cities, MN

The sale is on through January 31, 1997.

Happy Looping,
Mark Kata

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alan.Maguire@mercer.ie
To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Torn
Message-id: <01IEIHXG7VAU8XRDBO@kira.team400.ie>
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     Hi all,
        I'm new(ish) to this list so my query may be going over old 
     ground...
        David Torn has cropped up on this list a lot, his stuff sounds 
     interesting, and I'm thinking of buying What means solid Traveller, 
     but call me old fashioned, I would still like to know what Im getting 
     myself into before I part with the cash. I'm a fan of Fripp and 
     strange guitar noises in general but I find some of his Soundscapes 
     very monotonous. 
     Does Torns music have a rhythmic element? 
     Does it sound like real guitar, as opposed to the Mellotron\choir 
     sounds that Fripp uses? 
     Is the music primarily textural or are there lead parts? 
     Are there any accompanying musicians? 
     Is it recorded live or are there overdubs?
        Reply directly if you like...(alan.maguire@mercer.ie)
     
        Thanks in advance,
                Alan.   

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:54:00 GMT
From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Creative doldrums and compressors
Message-Id: <13610.199701221454@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>I tried the Carl Martin compressor at the TC booth, and it was quite nice,
>although I was dismayed that it doesn't do the famous Bill Frissel
>"squeeze" trick (wherein lowering the volume level on the guitar can
>result in the threshold of the compressor causing notes to fade in). 

I thought Frizell used a volume pedal for that.  You can use a compressor
to lose the attack of a signal by adjusting the "attack" parameter, but I'm
not sure if that's level dependent (AFAIK).

Michael

Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes      Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg,
Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979        University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K.
    "Wha's like us?  Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:14:42 -0700 (CST)
From: Kevin Simonson <simonson@uis.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @ Guitar Center
Message-Id: <199701221514.AA085586082@eagle.uis.edu>
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> 
> I just received Guitar Center's "January Inventory Meltdown."  On page =
> 9, it lists the Lexicon Jamman on sale at the following Guitar Center =
> branches for $199.66:
> 
> - Detroit, MI
> - Southfield, MI
> - Chicago, IL
> - Twin Cities, MN
> 
> The sale is on through January 31, 1997.
> 
> Happy Looping,
> Mark Kata
> 
Mark, my friend, you just saved me $50.00.  I put a JM on layaway last week.


-- 
Kevin Simonson                      * AS/400 Application Development Team
University of Illinois-Springfield  * Programmer / Analyst
Computer Science, et al.            * Norwest Mortgage, Inc.
simonson@eagle.uis.edu              * Springfield, IL

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:18:26 GMT
From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @ Guitar Center
Message-Id: <14525.199701221518@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Does anyone know what GC's WWW address is?

Do they still have any Vortices _anywhere_?  I'm sure this has been
answered in the negative recently, but it's best to be sure....  I'm due to
visit N'Orlins in March, and I'd hate to think I missed out on that
deal....

Michael

Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes      Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg,
Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979        University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K.
    "Wha's like us?  Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:36:54 -0700 (CST)
From: Kevin Simonson <simonson@uis.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @ Guitar Center
Message-Id: <199701221536.AA102477415@eagle.uis.edu>
Content-Type: text
Content-Length:        661

> 
> Does anyone know what GC's WWW address is?
> 
> Do they still have any Vortices _anywhere_?  I'm sure this has been
> answered in the negative recently, but it's best to be sure....  I'm due to
> visit N'Orlins in March, and I'd hate to think I missed out on that
> deal....
> 
ONe of the GC's in CHicago was selling Vortex units as 'closeouts' and
'opened' units.  They still had a few as of Friday.


-- 
Kevin Simonson                      * AS/400 Application Development Team
University of Illinois-Springfield  * Programmer / Analyst
Computer Science, et al.            * Norwest Mortgage, Inc.
simonson@eagle.uis.edu              * Springfield, IL

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:48:51 -0700
From: Paul <pebatlan@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @ Guitar Center
Message-ID: <32E628D2.7381@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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I hate to tell you guys but Guitar (K-Mart) Center blew out all their
Lex product during the December sale - at least here on the West coast -
I found a vortex squirreled away by a sales person that changed their
mind - Call - they might have some units laying around without Power
supplies - but remember the key Guitar Center words "I really can't sell
it below my cost."


Dr M. P. Hughes wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what GC's WWW address is?
> 
> Do they still have any Vortices _anywhere_?  I'm sure this has been
> answered in the negative recently, but it's best to be sure....  I'm due to
> visit N'Orlins in March, and I'd hate to think I missed out on that
> deal....
> 
> Michael
> 
> Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes      Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg,
> Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979        University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K.
>     "Wha's like us?  Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:41:19 -0800
From: krevis@blarg.net (Kurt Revis)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @ Guitar Center
Message-Id: <v01540b07af0be3f1acb2@[206.114.144.55]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

The Dr asks:
>Does anyone know what GC's WWW address is?

Go to http://www.musician.com and follow the links to "our sponsor".
Subtle, huh?

>Do they still have any Vortices _anywhere_?  I'm sure this has been
>answered in the negative recently, but it's best to be sure....

The supply seems to be drying up, yes. I had no luck with the GCs I called
in the SF Bay area and Chicago. However, my brother in Houston managed to
get them to order one for him, so they must have some sitting in a
warehouse somewhere. (He's picking it up today, so we'll see if GC actually
shipped it or if they screwed up.) So you might want to call the North
Houston store and see what they can do for you.


--
Kurt Revis                                      This world is not my home
krevis@blarg.net                                 I'm just passing through

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:01:47 -0500
From: neato@pipeline.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @ Guitar Center
Message-Id: <v01540b01af0ba3e99f50@[38.26.32.3]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>I just received Guitar Center's "January Inventory Meltdown."  On page 9,
>it lists the Lexicon Jamman on sale at the following Guitar Center
>branches for $199.66:

neato says:
careful...i called the boston store after reading a post here about this
last week and was told that a system wide search showed only demo and open
units available for that price....
-if anyone finds contrary please post
cheers

                                     all my mistakes were once acts of genius
                                                       neato@pipeline com

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:10:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Creative doldrums and compressors
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.970122100508.13586A-100000@icarus.icarus.net>
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On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Dr M. P. Hughes wrote:

> >I tried the Carl Martin compressor at the TC booth, and it was quite nice,
> >although I was dismayed that it doesn't do the famous Bill Frissel
> >"squeeze" trick (wherein lowering the volume level on the guitar can
> >result in the threshold of the compressor causing notes to fade in). 
> 
> I thought Frizell used a volume pedal for that.  You can use a compressor
> to lose the attack of a signal by adjusting the "attack" parameter, but I'm
> not sure if that's level dependent (AFAIK).

Bill Frisell uses a volume pedal to take the attack off of notes.  You
can do it with a compressor (the TC Sustainer is terrific for it), but
it doesn't give the same degree of control that a good volume pedal
does. 

I've found that the best way to do the Frisell sort of thing is to use
light compression just to even out the notes, and have a volume pedal
after the compressor.   I've always loved how he uses the volume pedal
and a bit of echo to build chords, where different notes in the chord
have different attacks.  Then again, I love just about everything he
does.  Frisell is one of those rare few who make magic with just about
every note they play, and one of even fewer who don't sound like a
refined imitation of someone else. 

-dave

By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete.
Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. 
Venus De Milo.
To a child she is ugly.       /* dstagner@icarus.net */
   -Charles Fort              

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:25:00 -0500
From: "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @
Message-Id: <9701221635.AA24579@beryllium.lexicon.com>

Does anyone know what GC's WWW address is?

Do they still have any Vortices _anywhere_?  I'm sure this has been
answered in the negative recently, but it's best to be sure....  I'm due to
visit N'Orlins in March, and I'd hate to think I missed out on that
deal....

Michael

Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes      Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg,
Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979        University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K.
    "Wha's like us?  Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb

Please make sure that any product that you purchase works properly prior to 
leaving the states.  Lexicon only offers a domestic warranty on product sold 
within the US and in the rare event that  you have any problems it may prove 
to cost more in shipping and/or repair charges than the cost of the unit at 
the blowout price!

Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I 
can do for you.

Best regards,

Greg Hogan
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-280-0499
email: ghogan@lexicon.com


Please let me know if you have any questions or

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:00:06 GMT
From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @
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Greg:
>Please make sure that any product that you purchase works properly=
 prior to=20
>leaving the states.  Lexicon only offers a domestic warranty on=
 product sold=20
>within the US and in the rare event that  you have any problems=
 it may prove=20
>to cost more in shipping and/or repair charges than the cost of=
 the unit at=20
>the blowout price!

I don't know if you heard about Olivier's problems in this respect=
 (with a
Vortex sent to France).  The Vortex costs =A3250 ($400) at the moment=
 in the
UK (the Reflex is $650+ !!) which is just a bit more than over there.....=
=20
:(
so the temptation of getting one from over your side of the pond=
 is big. =20

Would it be possible to order a unit and have it mailed to Lexicon=
 for a
once-over/service?  I could then get it shipped to my hotel when=
 it's been
checked out.  This isn't to say I'm garuanteeing getting one, but=
 I like to
know my options...

Michael

PS
>Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything=
 that I=20
>can do for you.
Doe you write this out each mail, or is it in your sig file?  ;)

Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes      Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine=
 Bldg,
Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979        University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12=
 8QQ, U.K.
    "Wha's like us?  Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:21:02 -0500
From: "Janet R. Underhill" <105054.352@compuserve.com>
To: Loopers <loopers-delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: oberheim echoplex used with midi foot switch
Message-ID: <199701221221_MC2-FC2-B786@compuserve.com>

Hi,

A friend wants to know:

Has anyone used or have knowledge of using a digetec ground control or any
other midi foot switch with an Oberheim echoplex digital pro?

Thanks,
Janet
105054.352@compuserve.com

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