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Loopers-Delight-d Digest                                Volume 97 : Issue 13

Today's Topics:
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com> ]
  Re: Creative doldrums and compressor  [ Kevin Miller <km15@cornell.edu> ]
  digest problems                       [ cwb@platinum.com (Clark) ]
  Re: digest problems                   [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  Best Echoplex Deals?                  [ "A.S.P." <ms20@serv.net> ]
  radio shack optimus pro x7 monitor s  [ "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.e ]
  Re: radio shack optimus pro x7 monit  [ angel@matisse.pet.upenn.edu (Emmanu ]
  Compressors?                          [ The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CAL ]
  Re: Compressors?                      [ Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net> ]
  Re: Torn                              [ Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@wayneswo ]
  Re: oberheim echoplex used with midi  [ James Reynolds <tritone@dsp.com> ]
  Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.  [ Jef Veatch <veatch@mich.com> ]
  Re: Compressors?                      [ Anton Chovit <antonc@earthlink.net> ]
  Re: Compressors?                      [ Shelley <spoticha@earthlink.net> ]
  Re: digest problems                   [ Ed Drake <ejmd@erols.com> ]
  Re: radio shack optimus pro x7 monit  [ "Todd Pafford" <galen@erols.com> ]
  Digest Version                        [ cking@xsite.net ]
  Re: radio shack optimus pro x7 monit  [ The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CAL ]
  Jamman Zip ram                        [ RandomLFO@aol.com ]
  Re: Digest Version                    [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  Re: oberheim echoplex used with midi  [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  Re: echoplex weirdness                [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  Re: Compressors?                      [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hu ]

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:21:00 -0500
From: "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.66 @
Message-Id: <9701221731.AA25111@beryllium.lexicon.com>
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Greg:
=3ePlease make sure that any product that you purchase works properly
 prior to
=3eleaving the states.  Lexicon only offers a domestic warranty on
 product sold
=3ewithin the US and in the rare event that  you have any problems
 it may prove
=3eto cost more in shipping and/or repair charges than the cost of
 the unit at
=3ethe blowout price=21

=3eI don't know if you heard about Olivier's problems in this respect
=3e (with a
=3eVortex sent to France).  The Vortex costs =a3250 (=24400) at the moment
=3e in the
=3eUK (the Reflex is =24650+ =21=21) which is just a bit more than over the=
re.....

Olivier's problem is the exact reason why I mentioned this.  Please do not =
=

get me wrong, this is a rare situation, I just hate surprises of this sort.=



=3eWould it be possible to order a unit and have it mailed to Lexicon
 =3efor a
=3eonce-over/service?

We prefer to service equipment that has a problem, but if you wanted us to =
=

look at a piece the turnaround time that we quote is 2 weeks.

=3e=3ePlease let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything
=3e that I
=3e=3ecan do for you.
=3eDoe you write this out each mail, or is it in your sig file?  =3b)

I prefer not to be tied to any sig file so everything I write is manual :=3e=
)

Please let me know if there is anything that I can do for you or if you hav=
e =

any questions.

Best regards,

Greg Hogan
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-288-0499

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:37:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Kevin Miller <km15@cornell.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Creative doldrums and compressors
Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970122123745.2247cfac@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> >I tried the Carl Martin compressor at the TC booth, and it was quite nice,
>> >although I was dismayed that it doesn't do the famous Bill Frissel
>> >"squeeze" trick (wherein lowering the volume level on the guitar can
>> >result in the threshold of the compressor causing notes to fade in). 


>Bill Frisell uses a volume pedal to take the attack off of notes.  You
>can do it with a compressor (the TC Sustainer is terrific for it), but
>it doesn't give the same degree of control that a good volume pedal
>does. 

     Frisell has said in interviews that people misunderstand what he was doing
with his devices. My impression is that he used the "squeeze" trick mentioned
above to fade into the notes, and the volume pedal to extend the notes. When
I tried this myself, voila! instant Frisellification, including:

 
> where different notes in the chord
>have different attacks. 

    I get a lot more control over these kinds of attacks with the Sustainer and
soft/hard picking (guitar volume backed off) than with volume pedal alone,
but I've practiced the technique a lot ( I don't normally sound like Frisell,
 I just love the effect) and I 
may not have the best volume pedal (some Fender jobbie). Of course, for
certain kinds of fade-ins, there's no substitute for a volume pedal. ( Have I
used enough parentheses in this paragraph?)

It's possible that I misunderstood what he said he was doing, but now that
Frisell has put aside his gizmos, I guess we're talking history here... 


 Then again, I love just about everything he
>does.  Frisell is one of those rare few who make magic with just about
>every note they play

       Amen, Dave- he's one of a kind.

          Kevin

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:45:40 -0500
From: cwb@platinum.com (Clark)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: digest problems
Message-Id: <199701221845.NAA29954@octopus.ab.platinum.com>

There appears to be a problem with the digest.  All of the
posts are listed on the first attachment but only half of
them are really attached.  The last digest listed 27 posts
in the header but actually only had the first 10.  What up?

Clark

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:28:28 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, cwb@platinum.com (Clark)
Subject: Re: digest problems
Message-Id: <v02140b06af0c1a4b2a53@[207.171.196.200]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>There appears to be a problem with the digest.  All of the
>posts are listed on the first attachment but only half of
>them are really attached.  The last digest listed 27 posts
>in the header but actually only had the first 10.  What up?
>
>Clark


hmm.

I received it all just fine. Are you sure your mail program isn't dividing
it up into two parts? Or dumping part because of the length? I use a
slightly old Eudora that divides them in half all the time.

Anyone else have a problem?

kim

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:58:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "A.S.P." <ms20@serv.net>
To: Loophedz <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Best Echoplex Deals?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970122115723.12508B-100000@itchy.serv.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Who has the best deal on the Oberheim Echoplex at the moment?  

Romeo
-----
ms20@serv.net

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:18:34 -0500
From: "Louis Collier Hyams" <hyamsl@rpi.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: radio shack optimus pro x7 monitor speakers
Message-Id: <9701221618.ZM15653@sparc.arts.rpi.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

greets,
i seem to recall folk on the list discussing the qualities of optimus 7
speakers for mixing. does this ring a ding?

I checked some out at the local shop yestiddy and ! not only were they 79.95
each, but the closest thing is the optimus pro x7 and optimus pro x77(129.95)

interest is due to the need for a pair of spreches in the A-B realm.
can someone give me the word on dat?

are the optimie worth it?

collier
(currently using crown ps-400 and EV sentry 100 monitors)

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 16:33:42 EST
From: angel@matisse.pet.upenn.edu (Emmanuel Angel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  radio shack optimus pro x7 monitor speakers
Message-Id: <9701222133.AA03577@matisse.pet.upenn.edu.noname>

>greets,
>i seem to recall folk on the list discussing the qualities of optimus 7
>speakers for mixing. does this ring a ding?
>
>I checked some out at the local shop yestiddy and ! not only were they 79.95
>each, but the closest thing is the optimus pro x7 and optimus pro x77(129.95)
>
>interest is due to the need for a pair of spreches in the A-B realm.
>can someone give me the word on dat?
>
>are the optimie worth it?
>
>collier
>(currently using crown ps-400 and EV sentry 100 monitors)
>
>

I know nothing about using cheap speakers as monitors, but the idea
is appealing.  I'm about to spend ~$800 on a pair of Event1 20/20bas
biamped monitors (flat and powerful over entire spectrum).  It would
be nice to have a 2nd cheap pair for doing that A-B thing.

Anyone else have good experience with using consumer "hi-fi" speakers
for mixdown?

Mickey


____________________________________________________________________________

Emmanuel Angel
Nuclear Medicine Physics and Instrumentation Group
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA
19104

angel@matisse.pet.upenn.edu

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:13:13 -0800 (PST)
From: The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Compressors?
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970122150948.11927C-100000@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

'Lo folks --

I'm in the market for a compressor, and was wondering what you could
recommend.  I'm intending to use it before any processing, and have it in
mind primarily to even out levels for the Echoplex and to reign in the
dynamic peaks that result from the EBow, so mono is fine.  I'm also
interested in messing with compression for its own sake. 

So I'd be interested in hearing what you all recommend.  I've tried the 
famous TC and was mightily impressed, but I can't count on being able to 
find one.  I'm interested in the Alesis NanoCompressor, which is both 
cost-efficient and (by the looks of things) very well-equipped, though I 
haven't tried one yet.

Any suggestions as far as what items I should check out will be greatly 
appreciated.  Sorry if this taxes the bounds of topicality,

--Andre

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:39:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Compressors?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.970122172646.24053K-100000@icarus.icarus.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

I don't think it's off-topic at all.  When I switched from primarily
electric to primarily acoustic looping, I suddenly had a severe
problem with overloading the front end of my digital effects.  I've
tried putting the TC in the path of my piezo pickup, but so far not so
good.  I'll probably build myself a tube compressor, more because I'm
currently into homemade tube stuff than because I think it'll be
great (actually, it'll probably be a combination compressor/preamp,
because I'm less than thrilled with my noisy Fisher preamp).  

Personally, I'd say avoid guitar-oriented compressors completely and
look for a brand-name studio compressor.  Excellent rackmount models
from dbx, Rane, and others are easy enough to find.  Make it the very
first thing in your signal chain, unless you need a preamp/buffer
first.  In particular, compressors work lots better BEFORE your
distortion device rather than after, where they amplify all that noise
along with the signal.   

Studio compressors are smoother, quieter, and more flexible than
guitar compressors.  The only guitar compressor I've ever really liked
is the TC.  All the rest are hissy, pumping tone-squashers.  

-dave

By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete.
Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. 
Venus De Milo.
To a child she is ugly.       /* dstagner@icarus.net */
   -Charles Fort              

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:51:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Torn
Message-Id: <199701222351.PAA10621@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
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>      Does Torns music have a rhythmic element? 

Absolutely!  

>      Does it sound like real guitar, as opposed to the Mellotron\choir 
>      sounds that Fripp uses? 

He's not known for using guitar synth, although he did mention an idea
10 years ago that sounds very similar in principle to that embodied in
the Roland VG8 today.
 
>      Is the music primarily textural or are there lead parts? 

Both! ^_^

>      Are there any accompanying musicians? 

Sometimes.  He's played in a variety of group contexts.

>      Is it recorded live or are there overdubs?

He doesn't stick to either extreme.

Paolo Valladolid
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:45:54 -0800
From: James Reynolds <tritone@dsp.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Cc: 105054.352@compuserve.com
Subject: Re: oberheim echoplex used with midi foot switch
Message-Id: <199701230045.QAA04937@dsp.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Has anyone used or have knowledge of using a digetec ground control or any
>other midi foot switch with an Oberheim echoplex digital pro?
>

janet,

i have a digital music corp ground control i'm using with my echoplex.
unfortunately, for most echoplex functions, the ground control is useless (i
realized this after having spent a couple hours programming it for use with
the echoplex).  

firstly, and most significantly, since the GC is meant mainly for guitarists
to use to change patches on their midi-controllable effects, it so
"intelligently" filters out redundant messages (it won't send the same
program change twice in a row).  the idea is that if you're on, say, effect
patch 29 and you select it again, you won't hear the audible "click" of
reloading the patch.

that's a great idea for simple effects patch switching, but it SUCKS for us
loopers.  any echoplex pedal button that needs to be pushed twice in a row
(record, overdub, multiply, insert, mute, next loop) is useless unless you
happen to want to use one of the famous "alternate endings", which i usually
don't use.

another big problem for most people is that the GC sends out program change
messages, while the echoplex needs to receive note or continuous control
messages.  i made a max patch that translates the message types, so it's not
a problem for me.

finally, any command that requires you to hold down a button on the echoplex
pedal (such as holding down "record" to erase a loop) is useless with the
ground control.  the ground control sends out a one-shot program change when
you press the pedal, it doesn't matter how long you hold it down.

in spite of all these limitations, i still use my ground control to select
loops 1-9, which is better than having to hit "next loop" on the echoplex
pedal several times to select the relevant loop.

james

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:57:51 -0500
From: Jef Veatch <veatch@mich.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jamman on sale for $199.
Message-Id: <199701230057.TAA07607@server1.mich.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I was actually lucky enough to get one at this price.  (I got the Vortex at
$150 last month, to  :-)  I called the Detroit store the day after i
received the flyer (sold out) and also the Southfield store.  Southfield had
one demo unit left (the one i got), and apparently aren't planning on
getting more.  

All i can say is that it's cool to be looping with more than 1.5 seconds of
delay...   :-)

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:11:11 +0000
From: Anton Chovit <antonc@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Compressors?
Message-ID: <32E6583D.731E@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The Man Himself wrote:
> 
> 'Lo folks --
> 
> I'm in the market for a compressor, and was wondering what you could
> recommend.  I'm intending to use it before any processing, and have it in
> mind primarily to even out levels for the Echoplex and to reign in the
> dynamic peaks that result from the EBow, so mono is fine.  I'm also
> interested in messing with compression for its own sake.
> 
> So I'd be interested in hearing what you all recommend.  I've tried the
> famous TC and was mightily impressed, but I can't count on being able to
> find one.  I'm interested in the Alesis NanoCompressor, which is both
> cost-efficient and (by the looks of things) very well-equipped, though I
> haven't tried one yet.
> 
> Any suggestions as far as what items I should check out will be greatly
> appreciated.  Sorry if this taxes the bounds of topicality,
> 
> --Andre

I have an aphex 651 expressor compressor.  This is the best mono
compressor that I have heard for under $400.  Works great with bass and
guitar and everything else.  This is a one space rack unit with balanced
in/outs

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:32:33 -0700
From: Shelley <spoticha@earthlink.net>
To: antonc@earthlink.net
CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Compressors?
Message-ID: <32E6BFB1.29DE@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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I just picked up a dbx 260 compressor gate from K-Mart (guitar center).  It 
works fine, good hard and soft knee compression and gate,  Also like the fact 
that the interface is very intuitive, unlike any of my Lex or Oberheim products 
(sigh).  Set me back $169.-- versus $199 for the Alesis product....  At that price, 
makes the nanocompressor seem way overpriced - besides who really needs 
half spece rack efgfects anyways...


Anton Chovit wrote:
> 
> The Man Himself wrote:
> >
> > 'Lo folks --
> >
> > I'm in the market for a compressor, and was wondering what you could
> > recommend.  I'm intending to use it before any processing, and have it in
> > mind primarily to even out levels for the Echoplex and to reign in the
> > dynamic peaks that result from the EBow, so mono is fine.  I'm also
> > interested in messing with compression for its own sake.
> >
> > So I'd be interested in hearing what you all recommend.  I've tried the
> > famous TC and was mightily impressed, but I can't count on being able to
> > find one.  I'm interested in the Alesis NanoCompressor, which is both
> > cost-efficient and (by the looks of things) very well-equipped, though I
> > haven't tried one yet.
> >
> > Any suggestions as far as what items I should check out will be greatly
> > appreciated.  Sorry if this taxes the bounds of topicality,
> >
> > --Andre
> 
> I have an aphex 651 expressor compressor.  This is the best mono
> compressor that I have heard for under $400.  Works great with bass and
> guitar and everything else.  This is a one space rack unit with balanced
> in/outs

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:58:24 -0400
From: Ed Drake <ejmd@erols.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: digest problems
Message-Id: <l03010d01af0c757a6b8f@[207.96.100.195]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Kim , you said earlier today:

>>There appears to be a problem with the digest.  All of the
>>posts are listed on the first attachment but only half of
>>them are really attached.  The last digest listed 27 posts
>>in the header but actually only had the first 10.  What up?
>>
>>Clark
>
>
>hmm.
>
>I received it all just fine. Are you sure your mail program isn't dividing
>it up into two parts? Or dumping part because of the length? I use a
>slightly old Eudora that divides them in half all the time.
>
>Anyone else have a problem?
>
>kim

I don't get the digest myself but I was at the LD web page the other day
reading some of the back Digests and I seem to recall there were several
that just stopped in mid-digest. Has any one else noticed this?

Ed

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 23:37:58 -0500
From: "Todd Pafford" <galen@erols.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: radio shack optimus pro x7 monitor speakers
Message-Id: <199701230442.XAA03118@mx06.erols.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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While I have little experience with mixing/recording, I have always heard
(and heard the wonderful result of) of using crappy speakers to mix an
album/cd/dat/whatever.  The logic behind it being that if you can engineer
the sound to sound good on crappy speakers, then it'll sound GREAT on good
speakers.  The perfect example that comes to mind was a band that I was
really good friends with.  When mixing down their self produced first album
all monitoring was done out these little 4 inch numbers that looked like
they were pulled out of any portable stereo.  At the end of the process,
the tape was sounding pretty damn good considering the speakers, but when
popped in the house stereo it sounded incredible....and still to this day I
think it's one of the best mixed albums I've ever heard, especially in
headphones. :)

Perhaps I'm off base with this since, to be honest, I don't know what A-B
process you're referring to.  So take these words with a grain of salt. :)

My own humble opinion,
        Todd P.

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> From: Emmanuel Angel <angel@matisse.pet.upenn.edu>
> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> Subject: Re:  radio shack optimus pro x7 monitor speakers
> Date: Wednesday, January 22, 1997 4:33 PM
> 
> 
> I know nothing about using cheap speakers as monitors, but the idea
> is appealing.  I'm about to spend ~$800 on a pair of Event1 20/20bas
> biamped monitors (flat and powerful over entire spectrum).  It would
> be nice to have a 2nd cheap pair for doing that A-B thing.
> 
> Anyone else have good experience with using consumer "hi-fi" speakers
> for mixdown?
> 
> Mickey

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:00:09 -0600 (CST)
From: cking@xsite.net
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Digest Version
Message-Id: <v01540b02af0c598b3d31@[206.126.239.25]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello all. I am new to the list. I am receiving all the regular/single
posts' as well as the "digest" version, however the digest version only has
one post as well!??????

Curt King
cking@xsite.net
Studio Zro
Chicago,USA, Earth

<><><><><><><><>

"Taste is the enemy of art"

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:55:34 -0800 (PST)
From: The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: radio shack optimus pro x7 monitor speakers
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970122215234.13932C-100000@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

It's standard practice for any serious studio to have a low-fi pair of
speakers wired into the board for reference.  The reasoning is that you
shouldn't try to mix optimally for a high-end pair of flat-response studio
reference monitors, because 99% of the people who listen to the recording
aren't going to have access to that.  Most records are engineered to sound
good on middle-of-the-road equipment, but it's a good idea to use a boom
box or comparable speakers to find out what it'll sound like, since that's
the primary point of reference for a lot of people. 

--Andre

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:49:02 -0500 (EST)
From: RandomLFO@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Jamman Zip ram
Message-ID: <970123014844_1077200411@emout20.mail.aol.com>

     I just purchased a Jamman, and I'm seeking the best buy on the Zip ram.
If anyone has a good lead, please email me. Thanks, Marc

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:52:39 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Digest Version
Message-Id: <v02140b00af0cc6d5839f@[207.171.196.200]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 12:00 AM 1/23/97, cking@xsite.net wrote:
>Hello all. I am new to the list. I am receiving all the regular/single
>posts' as well as the "digest" version, however the digest version only has
>one post as well!??????
>

Well now that's a total mystery. You're definitely not on the digest
subscription list. You get each post twice, from different sources? Can you
forward those to me by private mail, with the headers so I can see it?

I checked out the problem with the archive on the web site that Ed
mentioned, and did find a couple that were screwed up. I think I'm guilty
there; probably was falling asleep while putting them together and
uploading it. If anyone else notices problems there let me know. I'll try
to fix those some day after I dig out from under all the stuff that
everyone on the planet waited til I was away at NAMM to send to me. Not to
mention the fripp orgy y'all had that I haven't even begun to look at...

A couple people who are subscribed to the digest version of the list have
received only half of the last couple issues. I receive those as email just
the same as everyone else, and I got them fine. If anyone else has this
problem, let me know. I'm trying to figure it out now. Also, if anyone has
any idea what might have caused this please speak up!

Also if anyone works at netscape, please tell Marc Andreesen or whoever the
hell it is that you can't just go changing the way email works without
warning the rest of us first. Do they think they're microsoft or something?
(If you're using netscape 4.0, or communicator, be prepared to hear a lot
of complaining about all the html garbage attached to the end of your
mail.)

kim

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:04:48 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: oberheim echoplex used with midi foot switch
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At 12:21 PM 1/22/97, Janet R. Underhill wrote:
>Hi,
>
>A friend wants to know:
>
>Has anyone used or have knowledge of using a digetec ground control or any
>other midi foot switch with an Oberheim echoplex digital pro?
>

Check out the Echoplex footpedal tutorial on the web site. It has a bunch
of stuff on midi pedals. Plus, it's a great read!

http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html


kim

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:11:59 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: echoplex weirdness
Message-Id: <v02140b07af0cda5e1aea@[207.171.196.58]>
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At 7:41 PM 1/11/97, James Reynolds wrote:
>one more newbie question:  will the legendary "upgrade" be just a rom chip
>that can be bought at a store and user-installed?  or is there some kind of
>magical ceremony that must be performed by a qualified tech/priest?

This is from a thousand posts or so ago, but I'm a little behind....

Yes, it would be a couple of eproms that plug into sockets, in place of the
ones that are there. Piece of cake!

And based on meetings I had at NAMM, I'd say the echofuture is looking
pretty good. We'll see that upgrade yet!

>thanks for the help, kim!

your welcome...

kim

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:14:20 GMT
From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Compressors?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>I just picked up a dbx 260 compressor gate from K-Mart (guitar center).  It 
>works fine, good hard and soft knee compression and gate,  Also like the fact 
>that the interface is very intuitive, unlike any of my Lex or Oberheim
>products 
>(sigh).  Set me back $169.-- versus $199 for the Alesis product....  At that
>price, 
>makes the nanocompressor seem way overpriced - besides who really needs 
>half spece rack efgfects anyways...

Speaking of which, any comments on the Boss 1/2-rack
Compressor-Limiter-Gate produced about the same time as the SE50?  There's
one going used in town.

Michael

Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes      Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg,
Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979        University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K.
    "Wha's like us?  Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb

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