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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 144

Today's Topics:
  RE: JamMan memory problems, Part 2    [ "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com> ]
  Jamman Upgrade                        [ Mike Artemenko <irbuser@ix.netcom.c ]
  Art nightbass question                [ Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT> ]
  My GT-5 and other things              [ jlack@auran.com (Jamie Lack) ]
  Re: My GT-5 and other things          [ Rik Elswit <rik@well.com> ]
  Re: looping images                    [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  Re: looping images                    [ "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.c ]
  Re: looping images                    [ John Neilson <jneil@echonyc.com> ]
  Re: looping images                    [ Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com> ]
  univox ec 80 a                        [ "Peter G. Miller" <pgmxpf@nbnet.nb. ]
  Drifting                              [ verner@infinitesound.com ]
  Re: Can somebody check some sounds?   [ John Pollock <johnpollock@delphi.co ]
  Re: Drifting                          [ Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com> ]
  greets                                [ Louis Collier Hyams <hyamsl@rpi.edu ]
  Re: looping images                    [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]
  Re: Drifting                          [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]
  Re: looping images                    [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]
  Wrong Ways                            [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]
  Re: looping images                    [ "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com> ]
  Max email list                        [ "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com> ]

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:24:00 -0400
From: "Hogan, Greg" <GHogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: JamMan memory problems, Part 2
Message-Id: <9708261436.AA18952@beryllium.lexicon.com>

I can provide the diagnostic information for the JAMMAN and VORTEX.   
 Where shall I send it?

Best regards,

Greg Hogan
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone 617-280-0372
FAX 617-280-0499
email:ghogan@lexicon.com


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From:  Loopers-Delight[SMTP:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com]
Sent:  Wednesday, August 20, 1997 10:12 AM
To:  Loopers-Delight
Subject:  RE: JamMan memory problems, Part 2

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At 9:50 AM -0400 8/20/97, Hogan, Greg wrote:
>Dear Kim,
>
>You are welcome to place this diagnostic anywhere you'd like.

Well, that's a dangerous request......

presumably the jamman has a more complete diagnostics test. Could we get
the whole thing for the web site?

thanks,

kim

______________________________________________________________________
Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:11:23 -0500
From: Mike Artemenko <irbuser@ix.netcom.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Jamman Upgrade
Message-ID: <3402F21B.7E98@ix.netcom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Has anybody heard the latest on the Jamman EPROM upgrade? Is it still
happening?

Mike

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:41:03 +0200
From: Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Art nightbass question
Message-ID: <19970826164100953.AAB217@Default>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi all

Someone owns a SGX Nightbass effects processor?
I'd like to know if my Studio Edition model behaviour is normal: when the
input signal on the 3 leds indicator clips the sound fades away for a few
seconds....

Is it normal for the unit? If so, how do you manage absence of sound while
gigging?? 

thanks
leo

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:31:37 +1000
From: jlack@auran.com (Jamie Lack)
To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: My GT-5 and other things
Message-ID: <01BCB2ED.8D1B4860@JLACK>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I was pleased to hear of the looping ability of the GT-5 on this digest.
When I bought the thing many months back I was looking for something to provide a really broad sonic canvas
for my guitar, to compose soundtracks for my animations.
It has proved to be great for this, especially if you use other instruments in conjunction.
I am a little dissapointed with the short delay time though.
Could any other GT-5 owners recommend a fairly low cost addition to extend the looping capabilities.
BTW I am fairly new to this stuff.

Something I have been wondering.
Do any readers appreciate the concept of looping images with sounds?
The same way (kind of) that we loop sounds, we loop images.
I plan to explore this as soon as I come to grips with the GT-5 and my 4 track.

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:51:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rik Elswit <rik@well.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  My GT-5 and other things
Message-Id: <199708271551.IAA14569@well.com>

"Do any readers appreciate the concept of looping images with sounds?
The same way (kind of) that we loop sounds, we loop images.
I plan to explore this as soon as I come to grips with the GT-5 and my 4
track."


Steinberg (the Cubase people) has a program called X-Pose, which lets you
sequence stills and video clips via MIDI. It's  PowerMac native, and uses
Quicktime.  I'm not sure if there's a Windows version.  Steinberg is at
(818) 993-4091.

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 00:37:41 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: looping images
Message-Id: <v03102801b02985127e8c@[207.171.196.235]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Jamie Lack said:
>Something I have been wondering.
>Do any readers appreciate the concept of looping images with sounds?
>The same way (kind of) that we loop sounds, we loop images.
>I plan to explore this as soon as I come to grips with the GT-5 and my 4
>track.

I think that's a very interesting direction. I don't do anything like it
myself, but being a media-saturated member of the mtv generation, putting
image and music together seems like a perfectly natural thing to do.
Extending looping concepts to video and animation could have some very
interesting results, I'd love to hear what you're thinking along those
lines. medialooping, I guess we might call it.

Some day, there may even be devices to do just that.....to the machine,
audio and video are just data. looping or manipulating one or the other is
the same, just a question of processing power. Well within the reach of
current technology actually. the interface and function set are more the
question...

I'm really interested in the idea of performance video. It seems possible,
but I never see anyone really doing it. I saw a band a few years ago with a
video artist as a band member. The music was a fascinating sort of punkish
art/prog rock with this amazing video background. All performed right along
with the music. It was fascinating. Naturally it was too good to be true,
so they broke up. I really thought I'd see a lot more of that sort of mix
since, but I've never seen anything like it again. video alongside the
music, sure, but never created as an actual part of the performance.
Anybody doing that?

kim

______________________________________________________________________
Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 97 12:23:31 -0000
From: "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: looping images
Message-Id: <199708271720.KAA19664@scv1.apple.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>I'm really interested in the idea of performance video. It seems possible,
>but I never see anyone really doing it. I saw a band a few years ago with a
>video artist as a band member. The music was a fascinating sort of punkish
>art/prog rock with this amazing video background. All performed right along
>with the music. It was fascinating. Naturally it was too good to be true,
>so they broke up. I really thought I'd see a lot more of that sort of mix
>since, but I've never seen anything like it again. video alongside the
>music, sure, but never created as an actual part of the performance.
>Anybody doing that?

There's a guy in town (Austin, noted home of retarded blues guitarists) 
who has put together a neat setup using super-8 projectors and slide 
machines.  Usually there will be two slide projectors and three film 
projectors, set up on a platform in the middle of the club.  He's got a 
large library of film loops that he's scavanged from garage sales over 
the years that he'll feed in and superimpose as the mood strikes him, 
while more experimental bands play.  The coolest effect I saw was when Ed 
Hall (a local art-punk trio) came out on stage, wearing only shorts, 
painted in day-glo body paint.  There were black lights next to their 
monitors, so they looked really unearthly.  Luke (the film guy) had found 
some footage of an oilwell fire, and had projected this three times, in 
slow motion, aimed so that each of the band members appeared to be on 
fire.  Breathtaking, and on the cheap.
He's worked with various local bands that strike his fancy  (The Flying 
Saucers, Orange Mothers, Ed Hall, Poi Dog Pondering, Sixteen Deluxe, and 
so on).  I think the limiting factor is the size of the club--unless it 
holds at least 500 people, there's not really enough room to set 
everything up without cutting into the crowd space.  
A few years ago I saw an LA Band, Chalk Circle, and they were using a 
portable projection TV system hooked up to a VCR.  They also had a fog 
machine, and the projector would sometimes be aimed out over the 
audience.  When the fog achieved sufficient density, the projection beam 
would become visible, in the form of long. rapidly moving beams of light. 
 They didn't make any attempt to synchronize the video with what they 
played, just loaded up a VHS tape with interesting images and let it fly.

Travis 

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 16:59:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Neilson <jneil@echonyc.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: looping images
Message-Id: <199708272059.QAA06302@echonyc.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> 
> Jamie Lack said:
> >Something I have been wondering.
> >Do any readers appreciate the concept of looping images with sounds?
> >The same way (kind of) that we loop sounds, we loop images.
> >I plan to explore this as soon as I come to grips with the GT-5 and my 4
> >track.
> 
I think Emergency Broadcast Network actually uses a video sampler in
their performances, to trigger short clips or loops either manually or
in response to musical cues.

At one point there was a little demo version of this kind of sampler
floating around the net.
----------------------- Tear Along Dotted Line -----------------------
John Neilson                                             www.mixup.com 
jneil@mixup.com                                  "a site for sore ears"

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:27:22 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: looping images
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970827212722.008a577c@pop.chromatic.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 04:59 PM 8/27/97 -0400, John Neilson wrote:
>> 
>> Jamie Lack said:
>> >Something I have been wondering.
>> >Do any readers appreciate the concept of looping images with sounds?
>> >The same way (kind of) that we loop sounds, we loop images.
>> >I plan to explore this as soon as I come to grips with the GT-5 and my 4
>> >track.
>> 
>I think Emergency Broadcast Network actually uses a video sampler in
>their performances, to trigger short clips or loops either manually or
>in response to musical cues.
>
>At one point there was a little demo version of this kind of sampler
>floating around the net.

Yeah, I was going to mention them, but I missed their show when they were in
town so I don't know for sure how it comes off in the performance. A friend
of mine had the impression that they had things pretty rigidly sequenced to
their music. That's probably fine for their style, but I wonder about the
possiblities of using broadcasting equipment like they do for a more
improvised approach. Actually, EBN might be doing more of this by now, I
haven't checked up on them in a while. It seemed like they were very
interested in the idea when I read an interview a couple years ago. 

kim
________________________________________________________
Kim Flint		       408-752-9284
Mpact System Engineering       kflint@chromatic.com
Chromatic Research             http://www.chromatic.com

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:06:02 -0700
From: "Peter G. Miller" <pgmxpf@nbnet.nb.ca>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: univox ec 80 a
Message-ID: <3405073A.6814@nbnet.nb.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Kim I think I have my tape cartridge problem solved. I've had replies to
this query from all over ! Turns out a company in Chatanooga TN, has
some in stock. Also I found another unit by accident today. it is a
univox SM350. ( a little newer than the other unit probably 1968 of so.)
In any event thanks for you interest.
Peter

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:59:22 -0400
From: verner@infinitesound.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Drifting
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970827205922.0069a580@infinitesound.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Kim has mentioned that the Plex upgrade improves a stereo configuration -
keeps the 2 Plexs locked together better.

However, you for "ambient" folks that have 2 Plexs (and haven't upgraded),
try this - record a nice thick abstract loop and let it do its thing for
1/2 an hour or so.

The drifting is incredibly beautiful! It actually makes the loop come
alive, breathe and evolve all by itself. Check it out.

I'm going to miss this when I get the upgrade.

J. Arif Verner

Infinite Sound Studio
Ithaca, New York
http://www.infinitesound.com

"After silence that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is
music."
                              -Aldous Huxley 

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:17:17 -0500
From: John Pollock <johnpollock@delphi.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Can somebody check some sounds?
Message-id: <340274ED.4989@delphi.com>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

The Man Himself wrote:
> 
> Hello all --
> 
> I'm looking for a few people to test some sound files I'm attempting to
> upload onto my web site.  What I need are people who can download files
> in AU format.
> 
> The files are at http://shoko.calarts.edu/~altruist/sounds.html
> 
> Each file contains much loopage, and is in the 1000K neighborhood.
> 
> If there are any problems or anomalies, please mail me and let me know.
> Thanks very much for your help.

Andre,

#1 worked fine for me with MSIE 3.01/W95, and I like it, too.  Thanks
for sharing. :-)

This is a gentle nudge for the rest of you with Web sites-- please put
some of your music on them?  I've visited just about every site listed
in the World Wide Directory of Loop Artists, and downloaded at least
some music from every site that offers it.  I can't promise I'll like
it, but I do promise to listen...

John

mailto:johnpollock@delphi.com
http://people.delphi.com/johnpollock (Troubador Tech)

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:52:17 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Drifting
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970828025217.00878bd4@pop.chromatic.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

One particular slightly aged stadium rock star wanted to know if we could
set up a pedal to control the amount that stereo unsynced loops went out of
phase! Do you see why this is so hard? 

Anyway, you can probably retain your clock drifting experiences on the
upgrade by leaving the brothersync cable out and setting the sync to "off"
like you have it now. That way, the stereo units will start and stop the
loop record at the same time by the midi command, but will have no other
points of reference to each other. So they will naturally drift apart. 

...and no I'm not going to make a pedal to control it. But for those
interested in loop abuse, try this: Play a loop from a sequencer with midi
clock out. (percussion is particularly fun, .) Run this loop into the
echoplex, and record a loop of it, synced to the midi clock. You now have
the original loop and the echoplex loop running next to each other, which is
probably not something you would normally do. Because the timing resolutions
of the sequencer, the plex, and midi clock are not infinitely accurate, the
phase relationship between the audio waveforms of the two will be slightly
different each time through the loop. So the sound changes each time! Vary
the mix between the two to change the amount of the effect. We've spent
quite a bit of time trying to figure out ways to improve upon this situation
and make it go away, but at the same time I think it sounds pretty cool. Yet
another way to breath new life into that old drum machine.....

kim


At 08:59 PM 8/27/97 -0400, verner@infinitesound.com wrote:
>Kim has mentioned that the Plex upgrade improves a stereo configuration -
>keeps the 2 Plexs locked together better.
>
>However, you for "ambient" folks that have 2 Plexs (and haven't upgraded),
>try this - record a nice thick abstract loop and let it do its thing for
>1/2 an hour or so.
>
>The drifting is incredibly beautiful! It actually makes the loop come
>alive, breathe and evolve all by itself. Check it out.
>
>I'm going to miss this when I get the upgrade.
>
>J. Arif Verner
>
>Infinite Sound Studio
>Ithaca, New York
>http://www.infinitesound.com
>
>"After silence that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is
>music."
>                              -Aldous Huxley 
>
>
>
________________________________________________________
Kim Flint		       408-752-9284
Mpact System Engineering       kflint@chromatic.com
Chromatic Research             http://www.chromatic.com

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:53:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Louis Collier Hyams <hyamsl@rpi.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: greets
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970827224516.123426R-100000@magritte.its.rpi.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

hi loopers,
after being off of the list for quite sometime i suddenly received a digest!
what a mystery-ry-ry-ry

so, since you all rang maybe i can ask some advice?

1) i'm looking for a vox AC head to go with my 61 2x10 cabinet. actually, 
i wouldn't mind any sweet vox's. sweet is the key word cuz there are some 
that speak and some that flub. any leads?

2) i've tried out a copla line6 axsys 212 amps (dallas, austin, new york) 
and have decided they all sound like a multieffects with speakers.
but, on the opposite side, it's a 50 pound box that can do a festival gig 
and count as a single piece of luggage on the plane.
anyone have any comments? suggestions? 
any used ones out there? they are cheap enough, but resale will be poor 
more than likely.

you folk will have to email me privately as I don't know what the status 
of my membership on the loop is and how i got this digest

sincerely,
collier hyams

hyamsl@rpi.edu

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:37:08 -0800
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Cc: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: looping images
Message-Id: <v01510103b02a262c74f2@[128.193.5.25]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 4:23 AM 8/27/97, T.W. Hartnett wrote:
>>I'm really interested in the idea of performance video. It seems possible,
>>but I never see anyone really doing it. I saw a band a few years ago with a
>>video artist as a band member. The music was a fascinating sort of punkish
>>art/prog rock with this amazing video background. All performed right along
>>with the music. It was fascinating. Naturally it was too good to be true,
>>so they broke up. I really thought I'd see a lot more of that sort of mix
>>since, but I've never seen anything like it again. video alongside the
>>music, sure, but never created as an actual part of the performance.
>>Anybody doing that?
>
>There's a guy in town (Austin, noted home of retarded blues guitarists)
>who has put together a neat setup using super-8 projectors and slide
>machines.  Usually there will be two slide projectors and three film
>projectors, set up on a platform in the middle of the club.  He's got a
>large library of film loops that he's scavanged from garage sales over
>the years that he'll feed in and superimpose as the mood strikes him,
>while more experimental bands play.  The coolest effect I saw was when Ed
>Hall (a local art-punk trio) came out on stage, wearing only shorts,
>painted in day-glo body paint.  There were black lights next to their
>monitors, so they looked really unearthly.  Luke (the film guy) had found
>some footage of an oilwell fire, and had projected this three times, in
>slow motion, aimed so that each of the band members appeared to be on
>fire.  Breathtaking, and on the cheap.
>
There's a guy in Olympia, Washington that does this also. We played a show
there about a year and a half ago, and this guy was doing projection stuff
with one of the other bands on the bill, and asked us if we minded if he
did it for us as well. We said yeah, and fortunately we had brought a video
camera, because what he did was extremely cool. He had 6 projectors shining
on screens set up in an arc behind us. The films were educational films he
bought at a school auction, 50's to 70's vintage. He'd run them forward and
backwards, sometimes upside down. One bit he used a lot was a home-ec film
about preparing meat, he'd play this loop of a raw meat getting chopped up
over and over. Great stuff, we hope to play with him again sometime.

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
                                            -Sun Ra
________________________________________________________

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:37:13 -0800
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Drifting
Message-Id: <v01510100b02abc4690a5@[128.193.5.25]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 7:52 PM 8/27/97, Kim Flint wrote:
>One particular slightly aged stadium rock star wanted to know if we could
>set up a pedal to control the amount that stereo unsynced loops went out of
>phase! Do you see why this is so hard?
>
Yeah, Cool, if the 'plex did this I'd buy 2! :-)

I do something similar with the JamMan and the Roland Groovebox. I
midi-sync the JamMan to the Groovebox, set up some kind of pattern on the
'box, loop it into the JamMan, then unplug the midi cable from the JamMan
so it loops freely. I had a pattern going for 2 days once, was really cool
every time I checked in with it. It only went away when the power went out.

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
                                            -Sun Ra
________________________________________________________

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:37:17 -0800
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: looping images
Message-Id: <v01510101b02abe8c197f@[128.193.5.25]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 4:59 PM 8/27/97, John Neilson wrote:
>>
>> Jamie Lack said:
>> >Something I have been wondering.
>> >Do any readers appreciate the concept of looping images with sounds?
>> >The same way (kind of) that we loop sounds, we loop images.
>> >I plan to explore this as soon as I come to grips with the GT-5 and my 4
>> >track.
>>
>I think Emergency Broadcast Network actually uses a video sampler in
>their performances, to trigger short clips or loops either manually or
>in response to musical cues.
>
>At one point there was a little demo version of this kind of sampler
>floating around the net.

I think you could do this with the new version of MAX also, it gives you
some pretty comprehensive quicktime controls.

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
                                            -Sun Ra
________________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 12:36:50 -0400
From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)
To: 'Loopers Delight' <loopers-delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Wrong Ways
Message-ID: <01BCB3AF.1036B240@mark.asisoftware.com>
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Has anyone discovered any wrong ways to use a JamMan or Vortex?

Mark Kata
Mark@asisoftware.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:42:40 -0700
From: "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: looping images
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All this talk of looping images and Opcode Max has got me thinking.  Any
Max users out there?  I'd be interested in hearing how you use this
program.  Their web page doesn't really have any examples of specific uses.
 Specifically, I'm wondering if anyone has incorporated Max into their live
performances.  It really seems as if the possibilities are endless for
combining different media sources into one "coherent" performance event. 
Anyone tried this?

Is there a dedicated mailing list for Max users out there?

Thanks!

Matt

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:48:31 -0700
From: "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com>
To: "Loop" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Max email list
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Don't you hate it when you answer your own question?

>From Opcode's web page:

MAX users can join the MAX ListServe. Send email to:
listserv@vm1.mcgill.ca with 'SUBSCRIBE MAX' in the body of the message.
Once you have subscribed, MAX questions can be emailed to:
max@vm1.mcgill.ca

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Matthew Finley McCabe
Sales/Marketing Support

SunGard Bi-Tech Systems Inc.
890 Fortress Street
Chico, CA  95973
916.899.4348
http://www.bi-tech.com

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