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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 145

Today's Topics:
  E.W. Bridge recorder thingy           [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  More Gear Talk: Korg DL8000R          [ Brian.Thomson@prudential.co.uk ]
  Re: looping images                    [ Charles Cohen <ccohen@voicenet.com> ]
  Re: Wrong Ways                        [ "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com> ]
  Re: looping images                    [ John Neilson <jneil@echonyc.com> ]
  Re: looping images                    [ "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@eart ]
  The Generation Project (fwd)          [ Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@wayneswo ]
  Re: Wrong Ways                        [ The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.cal ]
  RE: Wrong Ways                        [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]
  Re: Can somebody check some sounds?   [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pyc ]
  Re: My GT-5 and other things          [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
  Re: My GT-5 and other things          [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
  RE: Wrong Ways                        [ The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.cal ]
  Re: greets                            [ Anton Chovit <antonc@earthlink.net> ]
    [ KThalken <kthalken@jps.net> ]
  A Looper's Delight milestone          [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:38:02 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: E.W. Bridge recorder thingy
Message-Id: <v03102800b02b679704c7@[207.171.198.45]>
Content-Type: text/plain

This fellow sent this product description to me. He thought it was
interesting, maybe you will too:


>>From kflint  Thu Aug 28 07:48:45 1997
>From: "Lambert, Georges" <Lambert.Georges@fin.gc.ca>
>To: "'kflint@annihilist.com'" <kflint@annihilist.com>
>Subject: Check this out...
>Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:46:23 -0400
>X-Priority: 3
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>
>Kim,
>This new gizmo does loops with its repeat function, cheap and
>interesting.
>It might be interesting to post that in the list, but I don't know how.
>Long time, low price, that is interesting, I need only looping for
>guitar practice,
>Record chords and solo over the change, that might be the one I was
>looking for, better than tape.
>It comes from
>http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/1997/Pocket-Memo.html
>
>Hope this is useful for the list people, did anyone tried it, according
>to your knowledge?
>
>Georges Lambert
>lambert.georges@fin.gc.ca
>
>_______________________________________
>New Pocket-Sized Digital Audio Recorder
>E.W. Bridge
>New Pocket-sized Digital Recording and Replay Tool for Musicians
>
>Redwood City, CA July 23, 1997 Today E.W. Bridge LLC introduced the
>world's first truly pocket-sized digital recorder and player for
>musicians. Being only 3/8 inch thick, and 4 inches long and 2 1/4 inches
>wide, Musician's Pocket Memo goes anywhere comfortably on one's person.
>It is designed for common needs voiced by most musicians. While
>on-the-go they can capture melodies, lyrics, and riffs, including live
>music, for easy reference and improvement later. They also can replay
>their recordings wherever they happen to be.
>
>Musician's Pocket Memo's digital sound quality is the first in the world
>to be sufficiently clear for musicians while maintaining pocket size and
>widespread affordability. It features an advanced mono sound synthesis
>chipset, high-sensitivity small microphone, and high output small
>speaker. Its unique sound clarity results from these high quality
>components together with finely tuned integration circuitry. The result
>is noticeably better sound than most portable cassette recorders.
>
>Operation is through a fully labeled and intuitive 7-button membrane
>keypad. Since recording is digital on non-volatile flash memory, each
>recording is stored separately and easily found. Each can be
>individually deleted which consolidates remaining recording capacity.
>Recordings do not risk malfunction or mechanical damage which can occur
>with tape cassettes. Stereo input and output 3.5 mm jacks allow
>connection to other essentials. Musician's Pocket Memo connects to
>headphones , external mikes and speakers, studio equipment, PCs, and
>directly or through mixers to electronic instruments. For example,
>electric guitars need only a simple $2 mechanical jack adapter.
>Electronic keyboards and other high power equipment can connect through
>a mixer.
>
>Says Clay Bullwinkel, President of E.W. Bridge, "We have made and sold
>tens of thousands of general-purpose high-capacity digital sound
>recorders worldwide since 1995. Customers have always told us that we
>are in a class by ourselves regarding sound quality for this kind of
>pocket-sized digital device. Just last year we began to hear repeatedly
>from musicians who were using them. The musicians not only underscored
>the sound quality again, they told us we were crazy not to be marketing
>it to the music community. They helped us figure out that adding input
>and output jacks, plus some fine-tuning of the sound circuitry, would
>help. And there you have it. For musicians we maintain our same
>responsive and supportive approach as always. Plus a very active
>research and development program with over 30 engineers."
>
>E.W. Bridge LLC will begin by mid-August to make Musician's Pocket Memo
>available through music retailers and catalogs across the U.S. You can
>place your orders by calling 888-248-3628 (toll free), (415) 361-4916,
>fax to (415) 261-2172, www.ewbridge.com, or via email to
>sales@ewbridge.com.
>
>
>
>Features and Prices
>
>Physical characteristics
>
>
>
>*True pocket size: 3/8 " x 2 1/4" x 4" / (9.5 x 56 x 101 mm) - rests
>comfortably in pockets, purses, etc. *Weight: 2.4 ounces (68g)
>*Intuitive and quickly referenceable 7-button plastic membrane keypad
>*Integrated advanced sound synthesis chipset, high-sensitivity
>microphone, high output speaker *2 or 4 MB (megabytes) flash memory -
>recordings secure when power low or is absent
>
>
>
>Functional characteristics
>
>
>
>*Distinctly crisper and stronger mono sound - (approx. 8kHz - better
>than most cassette recorders) *9.5 to 19.1 minutes in music mode (short
>play), 25 to 50 minutes in speech mode (long play) *Quick scanning from
>recording to recording or within recordings to find key sound *Deletion
>of individual (or all) recordings, consolidates all remaining ones
>*Volume control for privacy and power savings *Stereo input and output
>jacks - 1/8" (3.5 mm) *Use with PC requires PC sound card and speakers.
>Transfer done via analog playback into sound card jack *Both LED and
>sounds confirm successful completion of functions and battery status
>*Rugged, impact-resistant metal casing and surface mount construction
>*Keypad security prevents unauthorized replay
>
>
>
>Includes
>
>*Attractive four-color glossy gift box: 5 1/4" x 6" x 1", 6 ounces (127
>x 165 x 25 mm, 170 g) *Handsome smooth leather case, quick reference
>decal, and user's guide *4 replaceable batteries (Duracell PX625A or
>Varta V625U available as replacements) *3.5 mm connector cables not
>included *30-day satisfaction guarantee - within 30 days return fully
>intact and with minimal use for full refund *Standard limited warranty
>
>Standard ModelsSuggested Retail List PricesSPE25A-2J-EW (9.5minutes
>short play, 25 minutes long play, 2 MB -megabytes- flash
>memory)$119.95SPE50A-2J-EW (19.1 min., 50 min., 4 MB)$239.95
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Product announcement posted by Harmony Central¨
>

______________________________________________________________________
Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 19:17:33 +0100
From: Brian.Thomson@prudential.co.uk
To: " - (052)Loopers-Delight(a)annihilist.com" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: More Gear Talk: Korg DL8000R
Message-Id: <0014400000015586000002L062*@MHS>
Content-Type: text/plain

Came across this one in my travels - haven't seen any mention of it on this
list. Full details are at  http://www.korg.com/dl8000r.htm but here are some
highlights:

1U rack true stereo looper - up to 5 sec per channel (not enough!)
4 taps per channel - taps can be panned, effected, LFOed, etc.
set of standard effects - eq, chorus, flange etc.
huge display - electroluminescent
sync to internal clock, tap button, MIDI clock, external trigger (e.g. drum,
pad, footswitch)
DSP functions - for effect and to avoid glitches
control pedal input, full MIDI spec.
"warp" control - bend the loop (must be inspired by what Fripp does with the
Eventide H3000 parameter knob)
128 presets

Looks quite impressive - I'll start looking here in the UK. Only drawback seems
to be delay time - 5 secs per channel isn't cricket!

Brian Thomson, London UK
Real Address: bnt@ibm.net

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:49:12 -0400
From: Charles Cohen <ccohen@voicenet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: looping images
Message-ID: <3405C828.7EFD@voicenet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>Anybody doing that?

http://www.el.net/~bbain/index.html





-- 
            ****      What's Charles up to?      ****
                 http://www.voicenet.com/~ccohen

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:59:46 -0700
From: "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Wrong Ways
Message-Id: <199708281907.MAA20060@gw1.bi-tech.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> From: Mark Kata <Mark@asisoftware.com>

> Has anyone discovered any wrong ways to use a JamMan or Vortex?

Well....they aren't heavy enough to be used as doorstops!!

A couple of times when using the cheapo footswitches I've gotten an
electronic tone out of the JamMan....like a sine wave....and at different
pitches.  This hasn't happened for quite sometime so I can't remember
exactly what I was doing.

Matt

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:59:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Neilson <jneil@echonyc.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: looping images
Message-Id: <199708281959.PAA03376@echonyc.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> 
> All this talk of looping images and Opcode Max has got me thinking.  Any
> Max users out there?  I'd be interested in hearing how you use this
> program.  Their web page doesn't really have any examples of specific uses.
>  Specifically, I'm wondering if anyone has incorporated Max into their live
> performances.  It really seems as if the possibilities are endless for
> combining different media sources into one "coherent" performance event. 
> Anyone tried this?
> 
> Is there a dedicated mailing list for Max users out there?
> 
There's a Max list that you can get to from www.opcode.com (though I'm
pretty sure the list predates Opcode's site and is not run by them.

----------------------- Tear Along Dotted Line -----------------------
John Neilson                                             www.mixup.com 
jneil@mixup.com                                  "a site for sore ears"

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:33:23 -0700
From: "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@earthlight.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: looping images
Message-Id: <199708282135.OAA00903@usr04.primenet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I had to put my two senses in while this was still a fresh topic, since I
didn't entirely know what people meant by 'looping video'... This could
have been live-improv-60s-style-light-show with state-of-the-art updates,
for all I knew.

Here's one for you all, and I don't know if it's currently an option, but
it's what I used to do in the days when we were all 66MHz or less. 
Attached to the PC VGA out, a Y-connect leading to the monitor, and a video
converter, then to the input of a VCR or TV; running on the PC could be a
variety of programs that generate or animate existing graphics.  Our
favorite was FRACTINT, which generates fractals AND color-cycles them in a
manner you can define.  It's a great program, but when PCs got faster, the
cycling became intolerable to look at, for its speed.  Images all the way
from simple Mandelbrot to Plasma fractals are possible with this package;
but the speed algorithm makes it all wrong to run on anything faster than
66MHz.

Another package, more up-to-date, is called Kaleidoscope 95, by Syntrillium
(http://www.syntrillium.com).  This little gem is a screen saver, but is
Audio Sensitive, so it generates its Spirograph-like patterns (all
configurable, by the way) in response to specific frequencies or frequency
changes.  Alas, my PC2TV converter died last year.

Stephen Goodman           * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios
EarthLight Productions     * Get the Loop Of The Week Free!

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: The Generation Project (fwd)
Message-Id: <199708282234.PAA20331@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
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This came out of nowhere into my mailbox.  I guess this might have
been intended for Loopers' Delight.


Paolo Valladolid
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>From duo@pt.tizeta.it Thu Aug 28 13:26 PDT 1997
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970828222711.0093c1e0@pt.tizeta.it>
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:27:12 +0200
To: pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu
From: DUO <duo@pt.tizeta.it>
Subject: The Generation Project
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The Generation Project

By D.U.O. - Digital Unit Operated

The starting idea for The Generation Project was to produce images and
sounds using generative software exclusively. Our preferences has gone to
Vista Pro 4.0, a three-dimensional landscape simulation program, Organic
Art, a powerful framework for designing 3D living sculptures, Cybertation,
a 3D DNA electronic simulator and Shade Dancer, a fascinating and
stimulating screensaver for Win 95. Then we have developed a series of
themes about the images, as if they were pictures drawn from a number of
National Geographic of the future. The images generated from the different
programs was then select, joined and retouched using Adobe Photoshop, which
in turn has a generative role with its plug-ins filters. Subsequently with
Koan X Platinum, a great generating music device, we have created musical
pieces in relation to the images. The result has been a synergy between
sounds and images very evocative, that we hope appreciates.

The Generation Project can be accessed from
http://www.planetario.it/og.htm

----

D.U.O.

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 19:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.calarts.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Wrong Ways
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970828191041.4204D-100000@shoko.calarts.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Mark Kata wrote:

> Has anyone discovered any wrong ways to use a JamMan or Vortex?

I have a couple of Vortex patches where the volume of looped repeats
sometimes and unpredictably actually gets *louder* as it repeats.  The
problem is that it eventually starts clipping the internal processors and
freaking out into a total overload of digital distortion.  I haven't found
any logical pattern as to what causes this.  Kinda fun, as long as you 
keep the feedback control well within reach...

--Andre

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 08:13:48 -0400
From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)
To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Wrong Ways
Message-ID: <01BCB453.7B4165E0@mark.asisoftware.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Andre,

Please submit the patch settings to Loopers-Delight.  I'd like to try it.

Also, I haven't tried this idea yet, but it may provide interesting results on the Vortex:  Create an interesting program with one of the algorithms.  Then use the same settings with all of the other algorithms.  Something strange or unusual should happen on at least one of the algorithms.

I used to do this with a Yahama DX7 and it often provided interesting results.

Thanks,
Mark Kata
Mark@asisoftware.com

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From: 	The Man Himself[SMTP:altruist@shoko.calarts.edu]
Sent: 	Thursday, August 28, 1997 3:13 PM
To: 	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: 	Re: Wrong Ways

On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Mark Kata wrote:

> Has anyone discovered any wrong ways to use a JamMan or Vortex?

I have a couple of Vortex patches where the volume of looped repeats
sometimes and unpredictably actually gets *louder* as it repeats.  The
problem is that it eventually starts clipping the internal processors and
freaking out into a total overload of digital distortion.  I haven't found
any logical pattern as to what causes this.  Kinda fun, as long as you 
keep the feedback control well within reach...

--Andre

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:35:17 +0100
From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pycraft Hughes, PhD)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Can somebody check some sounds?
Message-Id: <22476.199708291235@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> I'm looking for a few people to test some sound files I'm attempting to
>> upload onto my web site.  What I need are people who can download files
>> in AU format.
>> 
>> The files are at http://shoko.calarts.edu/~altruist/sounds.html
>> 
>> Each file contains much loopage, and is in the 1000K neighborhood.

Works fine on this MAC.  Very, very nice.  

Michael

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:04:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: My GT-5 and other things
Message-ID: <970829100403_925218657@emout10.mail.aol.com>

<<Could any other GT-5 owners recommend a fairly low cost addition to extend
the looping capabilities.>>
You could patch a little Zoom 4-sec (508?) delay into the loop. They go for
around $120, and actually have some of the same delay-spill-over
functionality. How do you create your animations? In Premiere perhaps? Let's
keep sending up GT-5 discoveries. It's an amazing little device. 

Here's a minor tweek, useful if you're into electronica: while a  loop of the
sort I described in the previous post is running, go to the pedal assign page
and just dial around between the various presets, each one of which will have
an immediate effect on the loop. When you get tired of doing this, exit and
the last sound you made will continue as before. Too bad this isn't do-able
with foot switches, but it's pretty unpredictable...file under GT-trivia.
DPC

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:08:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: My GT-5 and other things
Message-ID: <970829100622_-166659742@emout20.mail.aol.com>

Anybody know why the order of receipt of postings here is so occasionally out
of whack? I've been reading quotes all week of the post that started this
visual looping thread, but just today rec'd the original...hmmm
dpc

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:26:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.calarts.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE: Wrong Ways
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970829182520.21393A-100000@shoko.calarts.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Mark Kata wrote:

> Andre,
> 
> Please submit the patch settings to Loopers-Delight.  I'd like to try it.

Give me a few days, it should be up for your self-abusing
techno-malevolent fun before too long. 

--Andre

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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 10:00:22 +0100
From: Anton Chovit <antonc@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: greets
Message-ID: <3407E0B0.1603@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have a ToneKing Continental combo.  40 watt one 12" speaker.  This is
the best amp I have ever heard or played.  It gets a great clean osound
with tons of headroom, it gets that vox sound, clean and dirty, It gets
a early marshal sound.  It rocks, It is incredible.  Unfortunatly, it is
also very expensive $1700.  I still would reccomend it if you want the
most toneful guitar sounds you ever played.  It is also very, very loud
in lead mode.  I use a THD hot plate for practice and it is just a
sizzler!

Questions, call ToneKing (410)327-6530.  Each amp is hand made.  They
are works of art!

Hope this helps
anton

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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 07:50:49 -0700
From: KThalken <kthalken@jps.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970830063500.00686bb8@jps.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi!,
My apologies for barging in on your mailing list, I found it while
searching for information on the birimbau and funny thing that I stumbled
upon information on looping that I hadn't found before.

Joseph Arthur is the subject of my web page and he had described "looping"
in an interview with Chris Douridas on KCRW:

<<CD: So you've got a show tonight at the Coach House in San Juan
Capistrano and there's another one at McCabes Guitar Shop in Santa Monica
tomorrow. And it's going to be you and your guitar, right?

JA: Right, well, I also do some things where I loop my guitar live, nothing
pre recorded but play some loops using like long delays but only, like, on
a few things. It adds another dimension. Most of it's solo, acoustic.>>

then a fan described the McCabes Show:
<<What was so incredible about this performance was the sampling work he
did. In fact, before the performance, Joseph made sure the audience knew
that what we were about to hear was live and not a recording. Layer upon
layer (I lost count at 5 or 6), Joseph sampled everything from rhythmic
beats on the body and strings of his guitar, plaintiff wails into the body
of his guitar, intricate finger-work on the strings, to use of an Ebow (a
little electronic device that vibrates the strings and picks up the
harmonics... you get the "singing sound" but without the attack of the
string being struck) to deliver Big City Secret as a rich and textured song. 

As he prepared to end the song, Joseph calmly put down his guitar, crouched
down with his bottle of water, and patiently faded out the layers of
samples as carefully and as patiently as he had created them. Many artists
generally don't want you to "see" the electronics, but Joseph Arthur,
"played" his sample peddle as if it were as important as his guitar. This
version of Big City Secret lasted about 10 minutes and brought the house
down with enthusiastic cheers. When the song was finished Joseph said that
his sampling work was "cheaper than a band... I want a band." Forget the
band Joseph! You are great solo!>>

and finally ... someone posted on the Real World Records Studios Forum board:
<<I have seen joseph Arthur several times on his US Tour. How exactly is he
set up with the Jam Mans & his rig on stage. Thats the hottest thing out in
music right now.>>

Looking around the loopers-delight site (beautiful header on your site
BTW!) I saw Jam Mans mentioned so I'm pretty sure I'm in the right place.
There is also a Brian Eno connection... he sings backup on one of Joseph's
songs and Markus Dravs produced Joseph's cd.

I'm not a musician and obviously don't know what looping is but would like
to have something on my page that would accurately describe looping in
laymans terms, addressing the concept and equipment.  Since I don't feel
comfortable writing about it, would anyone be willing to write a short
piece that I could place on my web page?  

Thank You,
Kathleen Thalken
http://www.jps.net/kthalken/

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:06:04 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: A Looper's Delight milestone
Message-Id: <v03102800b02f7d9a36b4@[207.171.198.53]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Sometime in the past week, the Looper's Delight website had it's 50,000th
hit of the year. Not bad for a weird little niche!

thanks to everyone who's helped make it a nice place to go!

kim

______________________________________________________________________
Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com

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