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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 146

Today's Topics:
  newbie question                       [ Darcy Clark <darcyc@engin.umich.edu ]
  Re: newbie question                   [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  RE: A Looper's Delight milestone      [ David Kirkdorffer <DKirkdorffer@exa ]
  RE: Korg DL8000R                      [ David Kirkdorffer <DKirkdorffer@exa ]
  Vocoder Recordings                    [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]
  Re: Vocoder Recordings                [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pyc ]
  RE: Vocoder Recordings                [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]
  Effects                               [ Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiog ]
  Re: Vocoder Recordings -Zepplin?      [ PainPete@aol.com ]
  Re[2]: Vocoder Recordings -Zepplin?   [ miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT) ]
  RE: Jamman Upgrade                    [ "Sellon, Bob" <bsellon@lexicon.com> ]
  Re: Vocoder Recordings                [ "c.voit" <c.voit@vtx.ch> ]
  Re: Effects                           [ Jonathan Brainin <jbrainin@interact ]
  Jam man @ Rogue auction               [ patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) ]
  RE: Vocoder Recordings                [ Michael Peters <MPeters@compuserve. ]
  RE: Vocoder Recordings                [ Dan Howarth <howarth@U.Arizona.EDU> ]
  RE: Vocoder Recordings                [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  RE: Vocoder Recordings                [ "Lambert, Georges" <Lambert.Georges ]
  Loopers                               [ Grover Sheffield <gls@mindspring.co ]
  RE: Vocoder Recordings                [ gorton@umich.edu (Russell Gorton) ]
  RE: Vocoder Recordings                [ Steven Dubofsky <skullsaw@gti.net> ]
  Re: Vocoder Recordings                [ any authorised user <robin.bussell@ ]
  Re: Vocoder Recordings                [ Adam Levin <alevin@ari.net> ]
  Re: Vocoder Recordings                [ "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.c ]

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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 12:49:50 -0500
From: Darcy Clark <darcyc@engin.umich.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: newbie question
Message-Id: <v03007802b030af2a6cfe@[141.212.131.224]>
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Hi,

I am a guitarist and keyboard player who, while not yet skilled in the arts
of looping, is always interested in new techniques and ways of making
music. I have been playing with a Boss gx-700 (max 2seconds delay) but it
obviously lacks the control necessary for the finer art of looping.
Therefore I have been looking at the Echoplex and JamMan as possible
purchases.

I have found a person selling an Echoplex Digital (not the Pro) - can this
machine be used in the same manner at the Pro model - what are the
significant differences between the two ? I haven't been able to find this
info. on the 'Net but I would bet that someone on this list has the
'skinny'.

many thanks

Darcy Clark
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 17:13:00 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: newbie question
Message-Id: <v01520d03b030d1c6565f@[200.254.32.150]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Welcome Darcy!

>I have found a person selling an Echoplex Digital (not the Pro)

does not exist, ask the person!

- can this
>machine be used in the same manner at the Pro model - what are the
>significant differences between the two ?

There only are the analog Echoplexes of the seventies and the digital pro
(which seem to be rare, too right now, so grab it... :-)

Matthias

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 01:33:11 -0400
From: David Kirkdorffer <DKirkdorffer@exapps.com>
To: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE: A Looper's Delight milestone
Message-ID: <30C4F9E5EBE1D0118B760000C0DD100F2092E7@MAIL>
Content-Type: text/plain

Thank you for creating this nice place to be!
david

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Kim Flint [SMTP:kflint@annihilist.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, August 31, 1997 4:06 PM
> To:	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> Subject:	A Looper's Delight milestone
> 
> Sometime in the past week, the Looper's Delight website had it's
> 50,000th
> hit of the year. Not bad for a weird little niche!
> 
> thanks to everyone who's helped make it a nice place to go!
> 
> kim
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
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> http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 01:35:55 -0400
From: David Kirkdorffer <DKirkdorffer@exapps.com>
To: Brian.Thomson@prudential.co.uk
Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE:  Korg DL8000R
Message-ID: <30C4F9E5EBE1D0118B760000C0DD100F2092E8@MAIL>
Content-Type: text/plain

This sounds like a fun new toy.  Anyone see a price on this in the USA?

David 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Brian.Thomson@prudential.co.uk
> [SMTP:Brian.Thomson@prudential.co.uk]
> Sent:	Thursday, August 28, 1997 2:18 PM
> To:	 - (052)Loopers-Delight(a)annihilist.com
> Subject:	More Gear Talk: Korg DL8000R
> 
> Came across this one in my travels - haven't seen any mention of it on
> this
> list. Full details are at  http://www.korg.com/dl8000r.htm but here
> are some
> highlights:
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 06:00:18 -0400
From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)
To: 'Loopers Delight' <loopers-delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Vocoder Recordings
Message-ID: <01BCB765.7E5F83A0@mark.asisoftware.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I've wanted to incorporate a vocoder in my looping rig for a long time.  Several years ago, I bought a Paia Vocoder Kit, but never had the time to assemble it.

Recently, I contacted the local high school electronics teacher about having a student build it for me.  I described a vocoder as an electronic device that lets an instrument "talk," but I'd like to provide him with a few sample recordings that feature a vocoder.

So far, I've only been able to find Wendy Carlos' "Analog and Digital Synthesis" CD that she put out about 10 years ago.  She demonstrates a vocoder with several examples of classical music.

Can anyone recommend some popular recordings that feature a vocoder?

Thanks,
Mark Kata
Mark@asisoftware.com

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 12:44:39 +0100
From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pycraft Hughes, PhD)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vocoder Recordings
Message-Id: <2942.199709021144@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Mark:

>Can anyone recommend some popular recordings that feature a vocoder?

It's all over Mike Oldfield's "QE2" album, and Laurie Anderson's "Big
Science".  But of course, you should have these albums anyway...  :)

Michael

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:12:14 -0400
From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)
To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Vocoder Recordings
Message-ID: <01BCB777.ED59AE40@mark.asisoftware.com>
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Thanks, Michael.

I'd forgotten about these.  I have Big Science.

Mark Kata
Mark@asisoftware.com

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From: 	Michael Pycraft Hughes, PhD[SMTP:pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk]
Sent: 	Tuesday, September 02, 1997 7:44 AM
To: 	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: 	Re: Vocoder Recordings

Mark:

>Can anyone recommend some popular recordings that feature a vocoder?

It's all over Mike Oldfield's "QE2" album, and Laurie Anderson's "Big
Science".  But of course, you should have these albums anyway...  :)

Michael

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:23:39 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Olivier Malhomme <malhomme@infobiogen.fr>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Effects
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970902141824.23361C-100000@lovelace.infobiogen.fr>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

I just need a little advice...
Can someone just explain me the all differences between all the version of
the H3000 eventide, and of the H4000 (or GTR4000, or anything...)
Thank you for your concern...

Olivier Malhomme

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:02:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: PainPete@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vocoder Recordings -Zepplin?
Message-ID: <970902090255_1682788559@emout02.mail.aol.com>

There's a mometary use of an effect on Robert Plant's voice on the song "No
Quarter" from the "Houses of the Holy" album, at the end of the line "The
Winds of Thor are Blowing Cold" right where we says "Cold". Sound like a
vocoder with delay. I've never been sure. 

Comparisons to Spinal Tap aside, what do the rest of you think? Is this a
vocoder or something else? (I remain undecided myself). 

In a message dated 97-09-02 07:47:03 EDT, you write:

<< Subj:	Re: Vocoder Recordings
 Date:	97-09-02 07:47:03 EDT
 From:	pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk
 Resent-from:	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
 Reply-to:	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
 To:	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
 
 Mark:
 
 >Can anyone recommend some popular recordings that feature a vocoder?
 
 It's all over Mike Oldfield's "QE2" album, and Laurie Anderson's "Big
 Science".  But of course, you should have these albums anyway...  :)
 
 Michael
 
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:26:45 +0400
From: miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com 
Subject: Re[2]: Vocoder Recordings -Zepplin?
Message-ID: <00000ABD.@poyry.com.br>
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     There are samples of the PAIA vocoder at 
     www.hyperreal.org/music/machines.
     
     I recently assembled the kit but I did not tested it extensively; the 
     first and only time I put it to work I got a lot of RF interference 
     (real plague in S.Paulo). Please inform your results with the unit.
     
     Miguel


___________________________ Separador de Resposta ______________________________
Assunto: Re: Vocoder Recordings -Zepplin?
Autor:  PainPete@aol.com na INTERNET
Data:    02/09/1900 09:02


     
There's a mometary use of an effect on Robert Plant's voice on the song "No 
Quarter" from the "Houses of the Holy" album, at the end of the line "The 
Winds of Thor are Blowing Cold" right where we says "Cold". Sound like a 
vocoder with delay. I've never been sure. 
     
Comparisons to Spinal Tap aside, what do the rest of you think? Is this a 
vocoder or something else? (I remain undecided myself). 
     
In a message dated 97-09-02 07:47:03 EDT, you write:
     
<< Subj:        Re: Vocoder Recordings
 Date:  97-09-02 07:47:03 EDT
 From:  pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk
 Resent-from:   Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com 
 Reply-to:      Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com 
 To:    Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
     
 Mark:
     
 >Can anyone recommend some popular recordings that feature a vocoder?
     
 It's all over Mike Oldfield's "QE2" album, and Laurie Anderson's "Big 
 Science".  But of course, you should have these albums anyway...  :)
     
 Michael
     
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:05:00 -0400
From: "Sellon, Bob" <bsellon@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Jamman Upgrade
Message-Id: <9709021409.AA09480@beryllium.lexicon.com>

I submitted a proposal to Lexicon management about a month ago for   
licensing the code but have not gotten a response. I just got back from   
vacation and intend to push the issue with them pretty hard. Sorry about   
the lack of information but I didn't want to clog Loopers-Delight with   
vapor. When I get any solid info (which should be soon), I'll post it.

Bob Sellon
Stec/Lexicon

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From:  Loopers-Delight[SMTP:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com]
Sent:  Tuesday, August 26, 1997 10:11 AM
To:  Loopers-Delight
Subject:  Jamman Upgrade

 ----------------------------------------------------
Has anybody heard the latest on the Jamman EPROM upgrade? Is it still
happening?

Mike

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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 16:06:15 +0200
From: "c.voit" <c.voit@vtx.ch>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vocoder Recordings
Message-ID: <340C1D57.BAA7033C@vtx.ch>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Beatiful vocoder lines can be found in a lot of recordings by Joe
Zawinul
I just scanned "The Immigrants" by The Zawinul Syndicate (CBS) and
theres vocoder almost in all tunes from very subtle backgrounds to lead
melodies
Beatiful music
Claude

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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 11:04:09 -0400
From: Jonathan Brainin <jbrainin@interactive.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Effects
Message-ID: <340C2AE9.FEC@interactive.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Olivier Malhomme wrote:
> 
> I just need a little advice...
> Can someone just explain me the all differences between all the version of
> the H3000 eventide, and of the H4000 (or GTR4000, or anything...)
> Thank you for your concern...
> 
> Olivier Malhomme

The Eventide web site, http://www.eventide.com/profaud/harm.htm, 
will provide all the info you could possibly want.

If you need to know more after checking out the website, email
me privately and I'll be happy to try and help.

Jonathan Brainin
jbrainin@interactive.net

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 21:22:18 +0200
From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Jam man @ Rogue auction
Message-Id: <v01520d04b03216faa9f6@[205.177.25.43]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

This month's on line auction at Rogue Music in NY City has a Jam Man up for
grabs. Now don't go crazy boys and girls. You can access the auction at:

>This month the auction starts on Wednesday, September
>3 and runs until 4 PM Friday, September 12. You can keep up on the action
>by checking our web site at http://www.roguemusic.com

Have fun!

Patrick


 ***  ***    ** Fingerpaint http://www.his.com/~patrick/FNGP.html  ***  **

  

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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 01:53:54 -0400
From: Michael Peters <MPeters@compuserve.com>
To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Vocoder Recordings
Message-ID: <199709030154_MC2-1EF2-3236@compuserve.com>
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Mark writes,

>I've wanted to incorporate a vocoder in my looping rig for a long time. 
Several years ago, I bought a Paia Vocoder Kit, but never had the time to
assemble it.<

My Boss SE-70 has a vocoder preset. I haven't used it much but it works
fine. The SE-70 is a wonderful machine, the central part of my gear
together with the loop.

>Can anyone recommend some popular recordings that feature a vocoder?

Brian Eno sings through a vocoder on a very nice piece on the Passengers
CD.
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:52:50 -0700 (MST)
From: Dan Howarth <howarth@U.Arizona.EDU>
To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE: Vocoder Recordings
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.970902235057.63790B-100000@f1n7.U.Arizona.EDU>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

it seems that ALL hiphop songs on the radio these days incorporate a
vocoder harmony vocal in the background - or at least some heavy samples
of it. 
anybody used the new digitech talker? it's on their wwwsite and seems
pretty nifty. 

**  Dan Howarth <howarth@u.arizona.edu>                       **
**  Classics-History-Music.  University of Arizona, Tucson    **
**  http://www.u.arizona.edu/~howarth 		              **

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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:43:27 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE: Vocoder Recordings
Message-Id: <v03102804b0334f4b3196@[207.171.198.115]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 11:52 PM -0700 9/2/97, Dan Howarth wrote:
>it seems that ALL hiphop songs on the radio these days incorporate a
>vocoder harmony vocal in the background - or at least some heavy samples
>of it.

Yeah, I was going to say, this whole thing was about trying to help some
high school students know what a vocoder is by pointing out examples in
music they are familiar with. That probably wouldn't include Joe Zawinul
and Brian Eno! Or Led Zeppelin. You'd have better luck picking some Dr. Dre
influenced tune off of MTV.

kim

______________________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 14:13:48 -0400
From: "Lambert, Georges" <Lambert.Georges@fin.gc.ca>
To: 'Loopers-Delight' <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Vocoder Recordings
Message-ID: <04A62A6EE022D111B10700805FE24D9D04BB60@SERVER1>
Content-Type: text/plain

For Vocoder used in songs you can listen to: 

Alan Parson Project's song "The raven".
Styx's song Mr Roboto,
Kraftwerk's Autobahn and Men Machine album.

Also of interest is Peter Frampton's song "Do you feel like we do", with
the "Mouth-Box"
effect where the mouth is used to modulate the envelope and the tone
(like a wah-wah) 
of the guitar, old but pretty cool.

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Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 20:14:12 -0500
From: Grover Sheffield <gls@mindspring.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Loopers
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970904011412.0066e1d4@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I'm a looper neonate (I have heard-but do not own or use looping
technology).  I'm looking into using a looping tool to spice up my solo gigs
(restaurants, primarily, playing acoustic fingerstyle/vocal with spasmodic
coughs of sequencer and MIDI guitar).  Thanks for sharing all the
information I've seen so far!
        Questions: 
        1. Is PC looping technology feasible for live work yet?  Including
foot            controllers?
        2. If yes, how does it compare with the Boomerang, Echoplex, and
JamMan?            I've looked at the comparisons of Echoplex and JamMan,
visited the              Boomerang site, but the only looping device I've
heard live is a Boss            GT-5.  I'm leaning toward the Boomerang
because of the cost and            the length of sampling, but I'm still
trying to gather information            about its' sound quality, given the
lower sampling rate. 
        3. Any recommended vendors for finding an Echoplex (or other good
looper) with foot controller at least cost?


                Thanks for any suggestions, and again for providing the
forum for information sharing!

                        Grover

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 09:09:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: gorton@umich.edu (Russell Gorton)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Cc: rhayader@juno.com
Subject: RE: Vocoder Recordings
Message-Id: <v01530501b03421714a52@[198.110.68.45]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

A popular dance/club/DJ tune right now features the LOOPED sample of a
heavily-vocoded (<--is this a word?) voice chanting
"around the world around the world around the world around the world"
over some thumpy back beat and what sounds like a sample of the (classic
late-1970's) funk bass riff to Michael Jackson's "Can't Stop Till You Get
Enough".  The vocoder loop is itself quite hypnotic, being the same approx.
3.5 seconds of noise again and again, no feedback, no modulation, just
drilling right into your skull.  Truly a "sample and hold."

Concur with M. Peters: The Boss SE-70 (and the SE-50, both 1/2-rack
multi-effects units out of production now) featured a Vocoder preset that
is REALLY cool.

Other vocoder instances (that this guitar-player-dominant list may be
familiar with)...
-the "prayer" part of "Sheep" from Pink Floyd's _Animals_ album.
-Phil Collins' "In The Air Tonight": "Well I REMEMBER..."
-The comedy sketch character "Pimp Bot" on NBC TV's "Late Night With Conan
O'Brien" here in the U.S. is an actor dressed as a 1950's-style Lost In
Space robot wearing 1970's blaxploitation-film hustler clothing, speaking
in jive cadences through a thick vocoder effect.

--Russell
"attention all robots...report to the dance floor"

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 10:32:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven Dubofsky <skullsaw@gti.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
cc: rhayader@juno.com
Subject: RE: Vocoder Recordings
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93.970904102842.10862A-100000@apollo.gti.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

    On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Russell Gorton wrote:

> A popular dance/club/DJ tune right now features the LOOPED sample of a
> heavily-vocoded (<--is this a word?) voice chanting
> "around the world around the world around the world around the world"

The band is Daft Punk


You can hear some of the best vocoding on Neil Young's Trans album, entire
songs are done through a vocoder.

I use the SE50, it's an okay vocoder but not nearly as cool as the Paia
that I used to use, if the Paia also did reverb, delay, pitch shifting,
etc., I would've kept it:)

Does anyone on the list use a Korg SDD-2000 for looping fun? I'm anxiously
awaiting delivery on one.


steve d           
         

            skullsaw must be applied directly to the stain

                     http://www.gti.net/skullsaw

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 16:01:12 +0100
From: any authorised user <robin.bussell@lucent.com>
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> -the "prayer" part of "Sheep" from Pink Floyd's _Animals_ album.

That album also has a nice instance of the use of a sample and hold
function on the analyser outputs to merge a  vocal syllable at the end
of a line into a saxaphone solo wish I could remember the line, think
the word was "screeeeaaaaaaaammmmmmmm....."  

There's also a dog barking into a vocoder in the background of one track
as well,
hmmm.. time to have another listen methinks.. it's been too long, thanks
for the
reminder :-)

"the diary of Horace Wimp" by ELO (on "out of the blue " I think )has a
nice prominent vocoded rhythm to it as well.

Cheers,
     Robin

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:35:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Adam Levin <alevin@ari.net>
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Subject: Re: Vocoder Recordings
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The new Genesis album (which is quite good) has one on the track "Alien
Afternoon". 

There's also the Tangerine Dream album _Cyclone_


-Adam

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       "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue,
       out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one 
                           becomes a Hearer."
                           - Chandrakirti

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 97 12:47:11 -0000
From: "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Vocoder Recordings
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>"the diary of Horace Wimp" by ELO (on "out of the blue " I think )has a
>nice prominent vocoded rhythm to it as well.

Actually on "Discovery", although "Mr. Blue Sky" does have a vocoder and 
is on "Out of the Blue".  There's also an instrumental track on OOTB, 
called "The Whale" (I think) which has vocoder.  Now that I think of it, 
I think "Sweet Talking Woman" also has the magic effect.

Travis

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