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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 148

Today's Topics:
  Vortexs Galore                        [ patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) ]
  TAGfest                               [ PMimlitsch@aol.com ]
  RE: Anyone have an Oberheim Echoplex  [ Michael Peters <MPeters@compuserve. ]
  Modular Looping                       [ "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net> ]
  RE: Modular Looping                   [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]
  Re: Modular Looping                   [ Steven Dubofsky <skullsaw@gti.net> ]
  FS: Dorkoder 7500                     [ Steven Dubofsky <skullsaw@gti.net> ]
  PCM 42 upgrade?                       [ Richard Menger <rmenger@groupz.net> ]
  Re: Modular Looping                   [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]
  Re: TAGfest                           [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]
  MIDI "mute"?                          [ "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.c ]
  Re: MIDI "mute"?                      [ Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com> ]
  Echoplexs have been found, thanks     [ "Paul J. Dresher" <PaulDresher@comp ]
  Re: Modular Looping                   [ "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net> ]
  Re: Modular Looping                   [ "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net> ]
  Re: Modular Looping                   [ "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net> ]
  Re: Echoplexs have been found, thank  [ John Neilson <jneil@echonyc.com> ]
  Re: Echoplexs have been found, thank  [ Phil Diem <pdiem@edcen.ehhs.cmich.e ]
  WTB: Digitech RDS8000 or 7.6          [ Steven Dubofsky <skullsaw@gti.net> ]
  Digitech PDS-???? pedals for looping  [ Darcy Clark <darcyc@engin.umich.edu ]
  Re: Anyone have an Oberheim Echoplex  [ KILLINFO@aol.com ]

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 16:48:15 +0200
From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Vortexs Galore
Message-Id: <v01520d00b039c03c04ae@[205.177.25.43]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

For anyone interested in A Vortex, there are three of them for sale at
Harmony Central today. All are priced at $250 each.


Patrick


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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 20:22:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: PMimlitsch@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: TAGfest
Message-ID: <970908202029_1920293127@emout06.mail.aol.com>

Had a real enjoyable time at TAGfest (Trenton Avant Garde Festival), both as
a performer (in the duo "Invasion of Time" w/fellow Stick player/Loopist Jim
Speer) and listener.  A couple of observations:
	1) Not one of the 5 (there may have been others that I missed in my
wanderings) other musicians utilizing a looping device had heard of "Looper's
Delight" or the mail list-a situation I corrected which should result in some
more "signers on". 
	2) Of the 5 other loopers there, one (synthesist Mike Hopkins) was using a
Mac 6400 running MOTU's Digital Performer to control sequences and loops.
 The others ("Ram Umbus"'s tuba player/vocalist and their guitarist,
"N.C.17"'s guitarist and one other bands'-name forgotten- guitarist) all
utilized the Diditech PDS 8000 pedal.  Experimental guitarist Edward Chang
(who w/partner Mokoto Shimizu make up "N.C.17") ran his PDS 8000 into a
DODfx94 then into a Boss reverb/delay (2 sec.) pedal.  Results?  Real nice,
both from a sonic standpoint as well as from an educational standpoint.  I
recently purchased a used PDS8000, mainly for nostalgic reasons-I got rid of
mine in the upgrade (Jman) trail, and am inspired to try new things with this
supposed "old technology".  
	For the record Jim and I both used Jammen (I also used a DigiRDS8000) for
our loopage.  - Paul

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 02:15:18 -0400
From: Michael Peters <MPeters@compuserve.com>
To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Anyone have an Oberheim Echoplex for Sale?
Message-ID: <199709090215_MC2-1FA9-C87A@compuserve.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Disposition: inline

Paul Dresher wrote,

>I'm searching hard for a couple of Oberheim Echoplexs.  

Welcome Paul. I don't have Echoplexes for you, but I'm very excited to have
you here - I love your records a lot. I'd be delighted to add your personal
profile to our 'loopers of the world' webpage.
___________
Michael Peters   
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters
HOP - Fractals in Motion ..."the only screen saver you'll ever want"
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm
Support the Warr Guitar Defense Fund
        http://home.earthlink.net/~greendog/warrfund.html

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:00:45 -0700
From: "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Modular Looping
Message-Id: <199709091401.KAA09204@mail.colba.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi, 

I am kinda new to the list, but I've visited all your Web sites and I was
just
wondering if there are any of you out there who loop synthesizers.

I loop using a Delta Lab Effectron III, Lexicon JamMan, and use a
Roland SDE-330 Dimensional Space Delay to sweeten the lot, but my
sources are mostly  EMS VCS-3 and custom modules.  The closest I come
to guitar looping is using a bass thru a pitch to voltage converter as a
controller.

To make matters even stranger, Robert Fripp is my main influence.


Seeking kindred folk,

D 4 V 1 D    K R 1 5 T 1 4 N
 
                                              "The most remarkable aspect
of today's artistic 
                                                environment is the
coexistence of so many
                                                centuries at the same
moment."   
                                                                           
          ---   Joel Chadabe (1971)
                                                                   
 
P.S.  Thank you for turning me on to the Vortex, I have ordered one which
shall be in my
rack tomorrow night.  

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:17:48 -0400
From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)
To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Modular Looping
Message-ID: <01BCBD09.A0DE2680@mark.asisoftware.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi David,

Tell us how you use your VCS3.  Also, which pitch to voltage convertor do you use?

Thanks,
Mark Kata
Mark@asisoftware.com

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From: 	Julia & Dave[SMTP:jndk@colba.net]
Sent: 	Tuesday, September 09, 1997 1:00 PM
To: 	Looper's Delight
Subject: 	Modular Looping

Hi, 

I am kinda new to the list, but I've visited all your Web sites and I was
just
wondering if there are any of you out there who loop synthesizers.

I loop using a Delta Lab Effectron III, Lexicon JamMan, and use a
Roland SDE-330 Dimensional Space Delay to sweeten the lot, but my
sources are mostly  EMS VCS-3 and custom modules.  The closest I come
to guitar looping is using a bass thru a pitch to voltage converter as a
controller.

To make matters even stranger, Robert Fripp is my main influence.


Seeking kindred folk,

D 4 V 1 D    K R 1 5 T 1 4 N
 
                                              "The most remarkable aspect
of today's artistic 
                                                environment is the
coexistence of so many
                                                centuries at the same
moment."   
                                                                           
          ---   Joel Chadabe (1971)
                                                                   
 
P.S.  Thank you for turning me on to the Vortex, I have ordered one which
shall be in my
rack tomorrow night.  

------------------------------
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:19:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven Dubofsky <skullsaw@gti.net>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Modular Looping
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93.970909101507.21941A-100000@apollo.gti.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

> 
> I am kinda new to the list, but I've visited all your Web sites and I was
> just
> wondering if there are any of you out there who loop synthesizers.

For years my looping setup was primarily a Kork MonoPoly and two reel to
reels. The decks are gone as is the Korg but synths are my primary
instuments. I recently got a CS1x that has an abundance of realtime
control and am awaiting the arrival, hopefully today, of a 4 second
Korg Delay. An expressive synth is a must, knobs and realtime control and
such.


> I loop using a Delta Lab Effectron III, Lexicon JamMan, and use a
> Roland SDE-330 Dimensional Space Delay to sweeten the lot, but my
> sources are mostly  EMS VCS-3 and custom modules.  The closest I come
> to guitar looping is using a bass thru a pitch to voltage converter as a
> controller.
> 
> To make matters even stranger, Robert Fripp is my main influence.

As far as instumental loops go Bobby Boy is and Eno are it for me as well.

steve d           
         

            skullsaw must be applied directly to the stain

                     http://www.gti.net/skullsaw

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:24:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven Dubofsky <skullsaw@gti.net>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: FS: Dorkoder 7500
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93.970909102112.21941B-100000@apollo.gti.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Speaking of reel to reel....would anyone be interested in buying a
Dokorder 7500? It's in perfect condition (lie). Sounds great (needs
work). Portable (lie). The capstan seems to be frozen but maybe someone
could use this as a fixer-upper. I'd take just about any offer for it.


steve d           
         

            skullsaw must be applied directly to the stain

                     http://www.gti.net/skullsaw

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 11:29:55 -0500
From: Richard Menger <rmenger@groupz.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: PCM 42 upgrade?
Message-Id: <34157972.5175@GroupZ.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Anyone know how to expand the memory in a Lexicon pcm42? I have 4.8
seconds now and would like as much as I can get of course...:)
thanks in advance,
Rich

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:19:14 -0800
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Modular Looping
Message-Id: <v01510105b03b41e1a7e8@[128.193.5.38]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Hi,
>
>I am kinda new to the list, but I've visited all your Web sites and I was
>just
>wondering if there are any of you out there who loop synthesizers.
>
>I loop using a Delta Lab Effectron III, Lexicon JamMan, and use a
>Roland SDE-330 Dimensional Space Delay to sweeten the lot, but my
>sources are mostly  EMS VCS-3 and custom modules.  The closest I come
>to guitar looping is using a bass thru a pitch to voltage converter as a
>controller.
>
I loop 6-string bass, a couple of ARP's, an Oberheim SEM, a yamaha VL-70
(triggered from a wind controller, I don't play it very well but it sure is
fun) and various other synths through a JamMan, a Vortex and an LXP-5.

Can you give me more info on the pitch-to-voltage converter you use? Is it
a commercial product or custom made. I'd love to have something like that
to trigger the SEM from my bass. I've tried a few pitch to MIDI converters
with not a l;ot of success.

>P.S.  Thank you for turning me on to the Vortex, I have ordered one which
>shall be in my
>rack tomorrow night.

You will love it. It's one of those boxes that gets deeper every time I try
to figure it out. It produces sounds that I've never heard from any other
FX box in 20 years of messing with this stuff.

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
                                            -Sun Ra
________________________________________________________

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:25:59 -0800
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: TAGfest
Message-Id: <v01510107b03b444938d7@[128.193.5.38]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 8:22 PM 9/8/97, PMimlitsch@aol.com wrote:
>"N.C.17"'s guitarist and one other bands'-name forgotten- guitarist) all
>utilized the Diditech PDS 8000 pedal.  Experimental guitarist Edward Chang
>(who w/partner Mokoto Shimizu make up "N.C.17") ran his PDS 8000 into a
>DODfx94 then into a Boss reverb/delay (2 sec.) pedal.  Results?  Real nice,
>both from a sonic standpoint as well as from an educational standpoint.  I

I played with Ed Chang quite a bit last year when he was living in
Portland, and he'll appear on our upcoming CD, currently awaiting funds and
free time to finish mastering and press. He was taking a sabbatical from
guitar at the time and learning clarinet, and was a pretty interesting
player in a John Zorn/Evan Parker frame. We recorded a few duets with me
processing/looping his clarinet that may make it onto the CD, he's a very
interesting player and thinker.

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
                                            -Sun Ra
________________________________________________________

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 97 16:07:37 -0000
From: "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: MIDI "mute"?
Message-Id: <199709092104.OAA16152@scv1.apple.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

I'm looking for a way to mute the output of my drum machine (an Alesis 
SR-16) via MIDI.  
Currently my Echoplex is slaved to the SR-16.  Sometimes I want to mute 
the drum machine without decoupling it from the Echoplex, so that when I 
bring the drums back in, everything's still in sync.  My audio mixer 
doesn't have channel mute, and I'm looking for a way to do this with a 
footswitch.  
Anyone have any suggestions?

Travis

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 14:40:24 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: MIDI "mute"?
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970909214024.0098ef64@pop.chromatic.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

How about setting up another pattern in the SR-16 with nothing in it? Switch
to that pattern when you want to mute (it'll wait till the end of the
current pattern if it's like the HR16.)  The new pattern will play in the
same tempo and still generate midi clock, even though there's nothing to
actually play.

Otherwise, does it respond to continuous controller volume? I never checked
that on my old hr16, but it would be useful. Then you would just set a pedal
to send CC 7, value 0 and it should shut up.

kim

At 04:07 PM 9/9/97 -0000, you wrote:
>I'm looking for a way to mute the output of my drum machine (an Alesis 
>SR-16) via MIDI.  
>Currently my Echoplex is slaved to the SR-16.  Sometimes I want to mute 
>the drum machine without decoupling it from the Echoplex, so that when I 
>bring the drums back in, everything's still in sync.  My audio mixer 
>doesn't have channel mute, and I'm looking for a way to do this with a 
>footswitch.  
>Anyone have any suggestions?
>
>Travis
>
>
>
________________________________________________________
Kim Flint		       408-752-9284
Mpact System Engineering       kflint@chromatic.com
Chromatic Research             http://www.chromatic.com

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 03:34:24 -0400
From: "Paul J. Dresher" <PaulDresher@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Echoplexs have been found, thanks
Message-ID: <199709100334_MC2-1FD6-7014@compuserve.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Disposition: inline

Dear Friends:

Thanks for all the welcome notes from many of you.  And because of that
last post searching for Echoplexs, I've now got two!  (And am already
thinking about more).

Michael Peters:  I've not had a chance to check out the Webpage with the
profiles so I'm not sure what would be involved in helping you add my
profile to this list.  But I really appreciate your offer and let me know
what needs to happen next.  Is there some informal way people introduce
themselves to this list?

Thanks again,

Paul Dresher 
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:10:19 -0700
From: "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Modular Looping
Message-Id: <199709101110.HAA23059@mail.colba.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Re: Fripp & Eno, be sure to also listen to Alvin Lucier's
work.  He may not always use loops, but I he's right
up there as well.

-David K.

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> From: Steven Dubofsky <skullsaw@gti.net>
> To: Looper's Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> Subject: Re: Modular Looping
> Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 7:19 AM
> 
> > 
> > I am kinda new to the list, but I've visited all your Web sites and I
was
> > just
> > wondering if there are any of you out there who loop synthesizers.
> 
> For years my looping setup was primarily a Kork MonoPoly and two reel to
> reels. The decks are gone as is the Korg but synths are my primary
> instuments. I recently got a CS1x that has an abundance of realtime
> control and am awaiting the arrival, hopefully today, of a 4 second
> Korg Delay. An expressive synth is a must, knobs and realtime control and
> such.
> 
> 
> > I loop using a Delta Lab Effectron III, Lexicon JamMan, and use a
> > Roland SDE-330 Dimensional Space Delay to sweeten the lot, but my
> > sources are mostly  EMS VCS-3 and custom modules.  The closest I come
> > to guitar looping is using a bass thru a pitch to voltage converter as
a
> > controller.
> > 
> > To make matters even stranger, Robert Fripp is my main influence.
> 
> As far as instumental loops go Bobby Boy is and Eno are it for me as
well.
> 
> steve d           
>          
> 
>             skullsaw must be applied directly to the stain
> 
>                      http://www.gti.net/skullsaw
> 

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:30:06 -0700
From: "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Modular Looping
Message-Id: <199709101130.HAA23755@mail.colba.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> >P.S.  Thank you for turning me on to the Vortex, I have ordered one
which
> >shall be in my
> >rack tomorrow night.
> 
> You will love it. It's one of those boxes that gets deeper every time I
try
> to figure it out. It produces sounds that I've never heard from any other
> FX box in 20 years of messing with this stuff.

Hey,

I originaly wanted one, but the people at Steve's Music Store had
told me it did little more than delay and modulation effects.  

I usually never listen to salespeople's advice, but I found it odd that 
they weren't pushing this product on me, knowing that all I ever
look for is freaky stuff.

A shame that Lexicon gave up on this and the JamMan, two great
devices that are sure to gain the same type of cult status as Electro-
Harmonix and Mu-Tron boxes did.

(     (    (   (  ( (  ) )  )   )    )     )

  D 4 V 1 D    K R 1 5 T 1 4 N
 
                                              "The most remarkable aspect
of today's artistic 
                                                environment is the
coexistence of so many
                                                centuries at the same
moment."   
                                                                           
          ---   Joel Chadabe (1971)                                        
                           
 ________________________________________________________
> Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/
> 
> "...there will come a day when you won't have to use
> gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
> your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
> type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
> together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
> together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
>                                             -Sun Ra
> ________________________________________________________
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:42:52 -0700
From: "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Modular Looping
Message-Id: <199709101143.HAA24222@mail.colba.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 7:17 AM
> Mark Kata wrote:


> Hi David,
> 
> Tell us how you use your VCS3.  Also, which pitch to voltage convertor do
you use?


______________________________________________

Here goes,

I currently do not own any keyboard instruments, and I sold the
"Cricklewood"
which I got with my VCS-3.  So I rely on several sources for control.

1. EMS Pitch To Voltage Converter, driven from the insanely detuned strings
    of my Fender (Squier) "Precision" Bass.

2. EMS Random Voltage Generator, two staircase oscillators which give
    results simillar to those achieved with sample & hold, but even more 
    random and smoother sounding.  Very Sci-Fi.

3. Custom made devices such as the IC1 Electronics Velvet Touch Oscillator
    bank, which outputs the three basic waveforms either at LFO or audio
range.
    this has a CV in, I use it mostly as an FM source or carrier for the
Ring Mod
    on the VCS-3.

4. I do not currently have my JaMMan, which was upgraded to 32 secs., but
I'm
    in the process of getting it back.

5. The Delta Lab Effectron III is used mostly for looping selected segments
from the VCS, 
    with the Random Voltage Gen. riding the CV in.  Nice and Grainy.

6. Time to go, I'm giving away too many secrets, and wasting bandwidth.  ;)


D 4 V 1 D    K R 1 5 T 1 4 N
 
                                              "The most remarkable aspect
of today's artistic 
                                                environment is the
coexistence of so many
                                                centuries at the same
moment."   
                                                                           
          ---   Joel Chadabe (1971)                                        
                           

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:20:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Neilson <jneil@echonyc.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Echoplexs have been found, thanks
Message-Id: <199709101320.JAA02390@echonyc.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> 
> Dear Friends:
> 
> Thanks for all the welcome notes from many of you.  And because of that
> last post searching for Echoplexs, I've now got two!  (And am already
> thinking about more).
> 
Wow, I've been keeping an eye out for a little while without that kind
of luck.  So I guess I should be a little more upfront and announce that
I, TOO, AM LOOKING FOR AN OBERHEIM ECHOPLEX, ANY LEADS APPRECIATED
before Paul gets them all (insert smiley face here).

Thanks, all.

----------------------- Tear Along Dotted Line -----------------------
John Neilson                                             www.mixup.com 
jneil@mixup.com                                  "a site for sore ears"

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 97 09:42:27 -0000
From: Phil Diem <pdiem@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Echoplexs have been found, thanks
Message-Id: <m0x8mxr-000RXuC@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Hi Paul, welcome to the list!

Would you mind elaborating a little bit more on the results of your 
search for Echoplexs - where you found them, cost? There seem to be a few 
people on the list who are also searching for plexs (and jammen, vortexs, 
ect.) and for a variety of reasons, these units are difficult to come by. 
I'd hate to see this list become an equipment trading post, there's too 
many good ideas and other info being tossed around here, but succinct 
posts re: sources for equipment may stave off a lot of individual queries 
to the list. I, at least, have appreciated the recent posts about stuff 
for sale. Maybe others disagree? ;-)

phil

digital loop technology is better than...peanut butter...drugs...sex, nah

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:55:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven Dubofsky <skullsaw@gti.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: WTB: Digitech RDS8000  or 7.6
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Since it seems that this is a good place for finding stuff I thought I'd
take a shot. I'm looking for a Digitech RDS8000, 7.6 or even the 6400( i
think that's the number). I could pay cash or maybe trade my Korg SDD-2000
Midi Sampling Delay, goes to 4.3 seconds, I'd just like to have a bit more
time, I'm so greedy.



steve d           
         

            skullsaw must be applied directly to the stain

                     http://www.gti.net/skullsaw

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:57:47 -0500
From: Darcy Clark <darcyc@engin.umich.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Digitech PDS-???? pedals for looping
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While I am tempted to shell out the big-$$ on an echoplex or jamman, and
given the relative scarcity of both, and also given my neophyte status, I
am wondering whether a Digitech PDS pedal or something similar might
suffice for the moment. I understand these pedals to have the capability of
sampling and holding and they can have up to 8 seconds delay - that would
be plenty for me at the moment. Do these pedals have any other capabilities
that are useful ? Which is the most ideal for the purposes of looping ?

thanks for any help,

Darcy Clark
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:01:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: KILLINFO@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Anyone have an Oberheim Echoplex for Sale?
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Greeting Loopersons,

I've must be a little slow on the uptake here or something. A few days ago an
SOS for EDP assistance was put on the list by a fellow named Paul Dresher. 

Paul is a former analog tape looper of some renown. I, in fact saw him
perform years ago in an art museum show in Southern California that was
absolutely stunning! That performance (and the few of his recordings I've
been able to find) have been a great insiration to me ever since.

As I remember (at that particular time) he was using a multitrack
reel-to-reel system (not altogether unlike Fripp's) but with the additional
feature of a bank of footpedals to operate as volume faders for each track.
But, more impressive than the rig was the music itself (for which it would be
an  injustice for me to even begin to describe).

You owe it to youselves to check this guy out. He's got a disc or two out out
on the New Albion label and a few others elsewhere I believe. He's a composer
who has pretty thouroughly plummed the depths of looping as a musical concept
and now he's joining the ranks of us digital loopers...hmmmm.

Ciao,

Ted Killian

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