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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 151

Today's Topics:
  Re: upgrading the Jamman              [ "Siobhan Canty" <siocanty@cfpa.org> ]
  Re: upgrading the Jamman              [ Roland Eberle <roland@ccnet.com> ]
  RE: upgrading the Jamman              [ "Hogan, Greg" <ghogan@lexicon.com> ]
  Interesting article in alt.guitar     [ Darcy Clark <darcyc@engin.umich.edu ]
  Re: upgrading
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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 151


Today's Topics:

  Re: upgrading the Jamman              [ "Siobhan Canty" <<siocanty@cfpa.org> ]

  Re: upgrading the Jamman              [ Roland Eberle <<roland@ccnet.com> ]

  RE: upgrading the Jamman              [ "Hogan, Greg" <<ghogan@lexicon.com> ]

  Interesting article in alt.guitar     [ Darcy Clark <<darcyc@engin.umich.edu ]

  Re: upgrading the Jamman              [ Tom Bickley <<tbickley@artswire.org> ]

  removal                               [ Benes Michael A <<mab562s@cnas.smsu. ]

  Re: Questions                         [ Olivier Malhomme <<malhomme@infobiog ]

  Re: Echoplex Sources                  [ Phil Diem <<pdiem@edcen.ehhs.cmich.e ]

  Hook me up...Please!                  [ Roland Eberle <<roland@ccnet.com> ]

  remove me                             [ Lance Weiler <<lenzz@voicenet.com> ]

  Re: Digitech PDS-???? pedals for loo  [ PMimlitsch@aol.com ]

  remove me                             [ Lance Weiler <<lenzz@voicenet.com> ]

  Re: upgrading the Jamman              [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]

  Re: upgrading the Jamman              [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]

  Re: New software                      [ Kim Flint <<kflint@annihilist.com> ]

  Re: New software                      [ Floyd Miller <<floyd@voicenet.com> ]

  Re: The EDP Questionnaire -- Update   [ Frank Gerace <<seahorse@user1.channe ]

  Re: New software                      [ "Paul J. Dresher" <<PaulDresher@comp ]


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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:00:18 -0400

From: "Siobhan Canty" <<siocanty@cfpa.org>

To: <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Re: upgrading the Jamman

Message-Id: <<17004284403294@cfpa.org>

Content-Type: text/plain

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


I am right behind you...will be purchasing the chips for my JamMan on

Monday.  How much did Rogue charge you and how do I get in touch with them?

 I will also be purchasing two foot pedals on Monday so any advice on that

would also be appreciated...


As a classical singer, I am just starting to expand my electronic

experimentation in my compositions and would welcome any suggestions as to

cool vox applications...Half the time, you guitarists leave me in the dust

of the lexoplexxoLPfiver15echodecomegawizzzzzzzzzzzzzz 

So if there are any vocalists lurking (any who survived the recent

tree-shaking thread-o-matic philosophunk), please make a move and share

some info and experiences.....

I'd be really appreciative....



----------

> From: Tom Bickley <<tbickley@artswire.org>

> To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'

> Cc: glarson@artswire.org

> Subject: upgrading the Jamman

> Date: Friday, September 12, 1997 12:35 PM

> 

> I'm enjoying the traffic on this list very much, and I'll emerge from

> lurking to say, 

> My set of four upgrade chips to expand my Jamman from 8 to

> 32 seconds just arrived from Rogue Music.  I'll have some time this

> evening to install them.  Any words of advice before I go at it? 

> 

> Thanks in advance! -Tom

> 

> *  "New music:new listening" -John Cage  *	tbickley@artswire.org

> 


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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:52:25 -0700

From: Roland Eberle <<roland@ccnet.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: upgrading the Jamman

Message-ID: <<33C7D269.19664F98@ccnet.com>

Content-Type: text/plain


> .  I'll have some time this

> evening to install them.  Any words of advice before I go at it?


Indeed!...

The hardest part by far is opening the damn case...be very careful not

to strip the screw

heads or your in for a major hassle...use a short screwdriver with as

big a handle (diameter) as you can find...you'll need lots of torque but

TURN SLOWLY.

the rest is a peice of cake..

enjoy.


> Thanks in advance! -Tom

>

> *  "New music:new listening" -John Cage  *      tbickley@artswire.org


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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:04:57 -0400

From: "Hogan, Greg" <<ghogan@lexicon.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: RE: upgrading the Jamman

Message-Id: <<215C1D5A0FFDD011B3CC00805FC18C290E8C64@NTSRV2.LEXICON.COM>

Content-Type: text/plain


Dear Siobahn and Tim and others out in JAMMANland,


Unless your machines have a serial number prefix <<394 all you will need

to do is follow the upgrade instructions in the manual and make sure

that you are taking all precautions against getting static into the

machine.


If your machine does have a serial number prefix prior to 394 you will

need a special "posidrive" screw driver in order to remove the posidrive

screw that were used in the earlier machines.


Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything

that I can do for you.


Best regards,


Greg Hogan

Lexicon Customer Service

Phone 617-280-0372

FAX 617-280-0499

email: ghogan@lexicon.com


> ----------

> From: 	Siobhan Canty[SMTP:siocanty@cfpa.org]

> Reply To: 	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

> Sent: 	Friday, September 12, 1997 2:37 PM

> To: 	GHogan@lexicon.com

> Subject: 	Re: upgrading the Jamman

> 

> I am right behind you...will be purchasing the chips for my JamMan on

> Monday.  How much did Rogue charge you and how do I get in touch with

> them?

>  I will also be purchasing two foot pedals on Monday so any advice on

> that

> would also be appreciated...

> 

> As a classical singer, I am just starting to expand my electronic

> experimentation in my compositions and would welcome any suggestions

> as to

> cool vox applications...Half the time, you guitarists leave me in the

> dust

> of the lexoplexxoLPfiver15echodecomegawizzzzzzzzzzzzzz 

> So if there are any vocalists lurking (any who survived the recent

> tree-shaking thread-o-matic philosophunk), please make a move and

> share

> some info and experiences.....

> I'd be really appreciative....

> 

> 

> ----------

> > From: Tom Bickley <<tbickley@artswire.org>

> > To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'

> > Cc: glarson@artswire.org

> > Subject: upgrading the Jamman

> > Date: Friday, September 12, 1997 12:35 PM

> > 

> > I'm enjoying the traffic on this list very much, and I'll emerge

> from

> > lurking to say, 

> > My set of four upgrade chips to expand my Jamman from 8 to

> > 32 seconds just arrived from Rogue Music.  I'll have some time this

> > evening to install them.  Any words of advice before I go at it? 

> > 

> > Thanks in advance! -Tom

> > 

> > *  "New music:new listening" -John Cage  *	tbickley@artswire.org

> > 

> 


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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:36:09 -0500

From: Darcy Clark <<darcyc@engin.umich.edu>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Interesting article in alt.guitar

Message-Id: <<v03007802b03f575ec8ea@[141.212.131.224]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


I found the following article in alt.guitar and thought I'd forward to the

list for your perusal. I have no experience with the Boss GT-5 personally.

I have a Boss gx700 - I wonder if this technique would work on it also. I

also just bought a used (once, supposedly) Jamman via UseNet News, so those

looking for one, keep trying !!!


Darcy


------paste

Subject:      GT-5 discovery

From:         dpcoffin@aol.com (Dpcoffin)

Date:         1997/08/22

Message-Id:   <<19970822173301.NAA04339@ladder02.news.aol.com>

Newsgroups:   alt.guitar

[More Headers]


I just discovered an amazing looping application on the Boss GT-5, which

has only 1800ms of delay. BUT, it has a delay spill-over function such

that if you write the same delay patch to several presets then change the

other non-delay perameters, when you select the different patches with a

loop running, the held delay contents carry over to run thru whatever new

fx are set up the different presets (still on Hold, even tho the control

pedal--set to activate hold--now is OFF; hit it twice to fade away the

loop, in any of the presets). Each one can be completely different except

in the delay settings--i just chose max delay and set up the hold

thing--including what kind of basic voice you'll have in that preset:

acoustic, ring mod, synth, pitch-shifted, whatever. So, with a bank of

five such presets, you can create a loop with any of the five different

voices, and send that loop to five different post-processing

configurations. I've got auto wah set up after the delay in each, so I

have five different frequency sweeps to choose to send my loop thru, with

the expression pedal set to master level. Sending thru a synth or ring mod

voice, with slowly shifting auto wah, on which the frequency rate is being

swept by the internal triangle wave, is amazing, plus I've got 4 other fx

chains I can send it thru, and on each one there's a different guitar

voice I can play over it, let alone the other outputs on my three-output

guitar. This technique has kept the same little synth figure entertaining

thru the entire course of writing this post...it's always changing as the

wah brings things in and out. I've only just discovered this, so I'm sure

there are many variations...there's also a sound-on-sound function that

will probably work the same way. whew! this is a serious box!

dpc

Anybody know if there's a GT-5 user group/web-ftp site?


Darcy Clark

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Materials Science and Engineering Department

University of Michigan

Ann Arbor, MI, 48109-2136

USA

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Room    2130, Dow Building

Phone   (313) 764 3377

Fax     (313)  763 4788

E-mail  darcyc@engin.umich.edu

http://msewww.engin.umich.edu/mse250

http://msewww.engin.umich.edu/people/darcyc/

http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~darcyc/

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:32:46 -0400 (EDT)

From: Tom Bickley <<tbickley@artswire.org>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: upgrading the Jamman

Message-ID: <<Pine.SOL.3.96.970912152258.26204B-100000@purple.tmn.com>

Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


Siobhan and all,

	First things first, ;-) Rogue Music charged me $72 + $5 shipping

for the four chips.  I ordered them on Wed. and they arrived today (UPS

NY->DC).  Rogue's phone number is 212-629-3708.

	First things second, thanks for the good advice about installing

the upgrade to my Jamman.  I'll let you all know what happens.

	I'm a performer on early European wind instruments. I've been

using extended techniques (multiphonics, etc.) for a while and am now

moving into adding use of electronic processing.  (I will post some of

this for the Loopers web directory of musicians, too.)  I've been working

with Pauline Oliveros and consider her a strong influence on my

composing/improvising.  Speaking of looping, the Extended Instrument

System that her Deep Listening Band uses to process their sounds is a

wonderfully artful blend of delay and other dsp technologies.  There's

info about it at 

http://www.artswire.org/0h/Artswire/www/pof/EIShome.html and you can hear

it on most of their recent CD's.

	-Tom


*     disciplined reading       *

*  haiku structures perception  *	tbickley@artswire.org

*     disciplined writing       *


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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:56:24 -0500 (CDT)

From: Benes Michael A <<mab562s@cnas.smsu.edu>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: removal

Message-ID: <<Pine.A41.3.96.970912145505.41206A-100000@cnas.smsu.edu>

Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


I think it's great but it's jamming up my e-mail....please remove me from

your e-mail list......thank you.


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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 09:41:01 +0200 (MET DST)

From: Olivier Malhomme <<malhomme@infobiogen.fr>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: Questions

Message-ID: <<Pine.SOL.3.95.970913093938.26420B-100000@lovelace.infobiogen.fr>

Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


Than you all for granting me part of your time to answer me. This is not

going to change my feeling about the nice people of this great list.


Olivier Malhomme


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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 97 10:31:35 -0000

From: Phil Diem <<pdiem@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>

To: <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Re: Echoplex Sources

Message-Id: <<m0x9t9x-000RYYC@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"


Paul, 


Thanks for responding to my request for more details about how to 

successfully locate Echoplexs. Interestingly, I heard about bananas last 

spring. I emailed them 

<<bananas@bananas.com> at least twice requesting quote/info and never 

received a response.

I guess I should've used the phone.


Also, when I met with Jerry Lambert, District Sales Manager for 

Gibson/Oberheim, I did try to impress upon him a sense of the demand for 

the DP and the frustration of not being able to find them anywhere. He 

said that they are aware of the demand and are trying to get production 

up. He didn't give any indication as to when the results of this effort 

might become visible to consumers.


>I love the units, they work better than expected and are deep with

>compositional potential!  If I disappear from the list for a while its

>because I'm locked away with my guitar and the two units working on a

>piece.

BTW, this is exactly how I felt when I finally got my hands on a jamman, 

it was so over the top of my expectations. I can't wait to try out a plex.


Phil 


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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 07:47:39 -0700

From: Roland Eberle <<roland@ccnet.com>

To: Loopers-Delight <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Hook me up...Please!

Message-ID: <<33C8EA8B.CABF245B@ccnet.com>

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------84F86DF1914E38DD19544D24"


 My back hurts (from bending over a rack enclosure re-routing wires etc.) 

My brain hurts (from trying to figure out the best way to hook all this stuff up)


A recent buying spreeÊ has netted me some long sought after/coveted gear andÊ I am 

now at my wits end as to how I should connect it all...Suggestions PLEASE.


I am sure there are many of you out there who understand signal paths way better than I...and I would really appreciate opinions on optimizing this gear from a looping standpoint...here's what I have...most of it recently acquired: 

<bold><underline>Echoplex Digital Pro.</underline></bold>..yes I am the lucky guy who got the plex posted for sale about a week ago have played with it about a half hour and find it much easier to understand than the jamman I sold about 6 months ago. 

<bold><underline>Lexicon Vortex</underline></bold> 

<bold><underline>Lexicon Reflex</underline></bold> 

<bold><underline>Mackie 1202 </underline></bold>mixer (the old one..not a VLZ...if that makes a difference) 

<bold><underline>Roland DR-660</underline></bold> drum machine 

<bold><underline>Roland GK2A</underline></bold> midi pickup (I play guitar btw) and <bold><underline>GI-10 </underline></bold>converter going into a 

<bold><underline>Roland M-GS64</underline></bold> sound module (got it at the Guitar Center Labor Day sale for $99!) 

<bold><underline>Carvin Quad-X</underline></bold> pre-amp (9 tubes; 4 channels; 2 stereo fx loops which can be operated by the excellent foot switch; 4 channel inserts a great sounding unit which I recommend) 

<bold><underline>Yamaha QY-10 </underline></bold>(compact sequencer/sound module thingy) 

<bold><underline>DBX-163x </underline></bold>mono compressor 

<bold><underline>Peavey Classic 50/50 </underline></bold>all tube stereo power amp 50 watts per side into 

2 <bold><underline>Peavey Classic 112 </underline></bold>speaker cabinets (12 inch speakers in sealed cabinets)


I am spending way too much time reading manuals trying figure the midi guitar stuff 

and the plex...don't know squat about using mixers but understand from reading posts here that they are a real boon...and I am just too fatigued to try and figure how best to 

implement all this stuff. All replies will be greatly appreciated..Thanks in advance. 

Reply to the list (I'm sure there must be others who would benefit from the wisdom of 

you technically minded loopfolke) or to me at roland@ccnet.com 

Again...thanks.

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 13:36:34 -0400

From: Lance Weiler <<lenzz@voicenet.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: remove me

Message-ID: <<341ACF22.686B@voicenet.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


Please remove me from the list.


Thanks

-- 

FFM Productions Ltd.					

Lance Weiler

lenzz@voicenet.com

215-598-8496


http://www.tebweb.com/lastbroadcast


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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:24:35 -0400 (EDT)

From: PMimlitsch@aol.com

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: Digitech PDS-???? pedals for looping

Message-ID: <<970913142434_1356822784@emout12.mail.aol.com>


In a message dated 9/11/97 3:39:30 AM, you wrote:


<<<<I

am wondering whether a Digitech PDS pedal or something similar might

suffice for the moment. I understand these pedals to have the capability of

sampling and holding and they can have up to 8 seconds delay - that would

be plenty for me at the moment. Do these pedals have any other capabilities

that are useful ? Which is the most ideal for the purposes of looping ?>>


Darcy;	

	The Digitech PDS series of pedals (1sec, 2sec, 4sec, and 8sec) and their

equivalent rack mount versions (RDS series) all have the capability to

loop-that is, they are digital delay/echoe units that have a "hold" function.

Should mention that while Digitech is not making these "loopers" any more

(although their 2101 Preamp/processor does have a 5sec delay/loop module),

DOD does make a 4sec. (dfx94) "looping" pedal.  For the price they can't be

beat and are a good place to start in "getting your feet wet".  One of the

things that you CAN'T do with them that you can do with a Jamman (I don't

know anything about the Echoplex or Boomerang) include accurately defining

(via "tap tempo" or midi sync.) your loop length.  This may not be a big deal

if you're going to do your looping in a solo/improv. context where you're not

worried about syncing to a pre-defined rythm.-in effect "you play to the

machine".  Another possible drawback is that they are constantly in fade

mode, even w/"feedback" set at max., so if you're doing a multi layered loop

the stuff you added on your previous passes is fading as the new stuff gets

layered (the "hold" function stops this and freezes the loop). Again, if

you're aim is to work with constantly changing loops/textures this may not be

a disadvantage.  One of the things you CAN do with these Digitech Loopers,

that you can't with the Jamman (again, I'm only comparing Digi. to Jman

'cause that's what I use and know nothing about Plex/Rangs) is change the

pitch of the loop by tweaking the delay time knob either as you're adding

stuff to the loop or after it's "held" - yields some wild "synth" sounds

especially when fed. back into another looper (ie: Jman/Vortex).  Now, if you

decide to pick up one of these little buggers don't make the mistake of

getting  rid of it in the "upgrade trail", if/when you decide to get a

Jman/Plex/Rang.,- there's no such thing as having to many loopers.  I should

mention, as in my previous post, that at "The Trenton Avant Garde Festival"

fellow Stickist/Loopist Jim Speer and I (performing as "Invasion of Time")

were the only ones using "sophisticated loopers" (2 Jammen in addition to RDS

8000 and Vortex), the other 5 loopers were all doing some mighty fine loopage

using the Digi'PDS8000 and the DODdfx94. Just goes to prove it's not the

tools but what you do with them that matters. Have fun.-Paul


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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:30:06 -0400

From: Lance Weiler <<lenzz@voicenet.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: remove me

Message-ID: <<341ADBAE.565@voicenet.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


Please remove me from the list...


Thanks


-- 

FFM Productions Ltd.					

Lance Weiler

lenzz@voicenet.com

215-598-8496


http://www.tebweb.com/lastbroadcast


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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 17:37:32 -0800

From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: upgrading the Jamman

Message-Id: <<v01510100b0409921c48a@[128.193.5.54]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


>I'm enjoying the traffic on this list very much, and I'll emerge from

>lurking to say,

>My set of four upgrade chips to expand my Jamman from 8 to

>32 seconds just arrived from Rogue Music.  I'll have some time this

>evening to install them.  Any words of advice before I go at it?

>

>Thanks in advance! -Tom


Removing the old chips is a bit of a hassle, since their mounted partially

under the lip of the front panel, and it's hard to get your fingers in

there. .A small flat blade screwdriver can help, just pry (very) gently on

the front of the chip. Good luck!




________________________________________________________

Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/


"...there will come a day when you won't have to use

gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in

your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper

type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em

together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em

together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."

                                            -Sun Ra

________________________________________________________


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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 17:37:35 -0800

From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: upgrading the Jamman

Message-Id: <<v01510101b040ef620ba9@[128.193.5.54]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


>I am right behind you...will be purchasing the chips for my JamMan on

>Monday.  How much did Rogue charge you and how do I get in touch with them?

> I will also be purchasing two foot pedals on Monday so any advice on that

>would also be appreciated...

>

I found the chips through VisionSoft, which deals in Amiga parts and

software. The chips were $9.95 each, and the phone sales people were very

helpful. One chip they sent was defective, which turns the JamMan into a

harsh digital fuzzbox depending on which slot it ends up in, and VisionSoft

was very cool about replacing it.


VisonSoft (800)735-2633

Homepage: http//www.visionsoft.com



Good luck!


________________________________________________________

Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/


"...there will come a day when you won't have to use

gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in

your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper

type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em

together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em

together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."

                                            -Sun Ra

________________________________________________________


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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 22:31:12 -0700

From: Kim Flint <<kflint@annihilist.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: New software

Message-Id: <<v03102803b04124f44dc7@[207.171.198.115]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


At 7:34 AM -0400 9/12/97, KelRey@aol.com wrote:

>I just have reeived the new software upgrade V 5 for the Plex. I didnt get

>any documentation. Does any one how to get documentation on the changes in

>the new upgrade.

>

>Thanks,



hmm. They didn't send anything at all? I gave gibson all of the release

notes for the software when we delivered it to them. I guess I assumed they

would actually use that to create some sort of documentation to send to

people, but in retrospect I guess I should know better. I can put that

information on the Loopers Delight echoplex page, hopefully that will help.

It was posted to the mailing list when the upgrade was announced, so you

can probably find it in the archives anyway.


Did they at least send instructions on how to install the eproms?


Since I'm going to the trouble, anything specific you would like to have in

the upgrade docs?


kim


______________________________________________________________________

Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight

kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html

http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com


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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 11:48:21 -0400

From: Floyd Miller <<floyd@voicenet.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: New software

Message-Id: <<3.0.1.32.19970914114821.0069fc34@popmail.voicenet.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


At 10:31 PM 9/13/97 -0700, Kim wrote:

>

>Since I'm going to the trouble, anything specific you would like to have in

>the upgrade docs?

>


Yes - where to get the upgrade, user-installable.


**************** 

  ********** Floyd Miller

    ****** floyd@voicenet.com

      ** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd


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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:06:05 -0400 (EDT)

From: Frank Gerace <<seahorse@user1.channel1.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: The EDP Questionnaire -- Update

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David,

        Just an amusing side note.  On Thursday, when I answered your

questionnaire, I said I had one on order as my answer to "would you buy one

tomorrow".  Well, Friday I got a call from Mr. Music and lo, it was in.  So

I did buy one tomorrow.  Now all I need to do is upgrade the memory.


Frank Gerace

Dreamchild


 

At 01:42 PM 9/12/97 -0400, you wrote:

>Just to let readers know, I've received about 30ish responses to my

>off-the-cuff questions.  I plan to data into a spread sheet and see what

>story emerges.  I'll see about getting the raw data out to the list

>(minus the names of respondents), so everyone can have a crack at

>interpretation.  I'm shooting for Monday.

>

>I will also try to get the results into the hands of folks in Marketing

>at Gibson. After we've all had a chance to chew on things a bit...

>

>So, if you haven't already sent in your responses.   I'll keep the door

>open until 4:00pm this afternoon.

>

>Thanks to all of you 

>

>- JamMen, DigiFolk, EvenTiders, Votexians, and Oberpeople.

>

>David Kirkdorffer

>

>

>Q1	Have you ever seen an Echoplex DP?	yes	no

>

>

>Q2	Have you ever tried an Echoplex DP? 	yes	no

>

>Q2a. 	Would you like to try an Echoplex DP?	yes	no

>

>

>Q3.	Have you tried to find / looked for an Echoplex DP?	yes

>no			

>

>Q4.	Do you currently own an Echoplex DP?	yes	no

>Q4a.	How many?

>	

>Q5	Do you currently own other LOOPing tools?	yes	no

>Q5a.     Please list the other Loopers you own	

>

>	Looper			Quantity

>	Jam Man			

>	Boomerrang

>	other? (list them!)

>

>Q6.	Do you want to buy an Echoplex DP?	yes 	no

>

>Q7.	If one were available locally to you, would you buy an Echoplex

>DP tomorrow?	yes 	no

>	(Assume retail price w/footpedal approximately = US$700  +/-

>10%)

>

>

>Q8;	Why do you want to buy an Echoplex DP?

>

>

>Q9.	What City, State, and Country are you in?

>

>

>Again, please send your replies ASAP to:  dkirkdorffer@exapps.com

>

>

>

>

>

>


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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 16:56:38 -0400

From: "Paul J. Dresher" <<PaulDresher@compuserve.com>

To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Re: New software

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Kim:


At the moment, I have one unit with the new and one with the old software. 

I'm assuming the manual which came with the new unit is still really based

on the 3.2 software.  I would love to get the info on the new software too.

 Let us know when its posted on the Web site.   (Even with different

software versions, the two units sync up fine in BrotherSync mode).  I have

a number of questions about the units and wondered is it appropriate to ask

those questions here?  Do you recall which archive digest included your

info on the upgrade?


All the Best,


Paul Dresher


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