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Loopers-Delight-d Digest                                Volume 97 : Issue 16

Today's Topics:
  Re: slider & pedal for a vortex       [ Shelley <spoticha@earthlink.net> ]
  Re: radio shack optimus pro x7 monit  [ WBrake@aol.com ]
  If ya liked them records....          [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  Greg's help                           [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: Greg's help                       [ James Reynolds <tritone@dsp.com> ]
  Re: If ya liked them records....      [ James Reynolds <tritone@dsp.com> ]
  Re: If ya liked them records....      [ The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CAL ]
  Re: If ya liked them records....      [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  Re: If ya liked them records....      [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  Re: If ya liked them records....      [ James Reynolds <tritone@dsp.com> ]
  Re: If ya liked them records....      [ neato@pipeline.com ]
  Re: Reflex/Vortex Resonators          [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
  Re: Jamman with Midi Fade             [ PMimlitsch@aol.com ]
  Re: Torn article ie beyond Fripp      [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ]
  RE: If ya liked them records....      [ Michael Peters <100041.247@compuser ]
  Echoplex Pedal Needed                 [ patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) ]
  RE: If ya liked them records....      [ neato@pipeline.com ]
  Re: Echoplex Pedal Needed             [ neato@pipeline.com ]

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 23:20:44 -0700
From: Shelley <spoticha@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: slider & pedal for a vortex
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greg - 
How do I use the EV-5 to move between AB to slide/morph?  I heard that I
can morph between A and B effects but stop along the way - How do I
achieve this and can i freeze and store into a register?

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 04:58:51 -0500 (EST)
From: WBrake@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: radio shack optimus pro x7 monitor speakers
Message-ID: <970125045849_681496073@emout14.mail.aol.com>

The one thing we all need to remember is the best speakers force us into an
additional problem...car and home stereos, despite quality and capability,
will not sound like the monitors in our studios. That is unless we have the
"real world, worst case" reference speakers in which to "reality check" our
mixes. The Yamaha NS-10M is a prime example. To my ears, they are harsh and
difficult to listen to for an extended period of time, but if you can get a
mix to sound good on these, in ADDITION to your "prized" monitoring system,
you can rest assured that Joe Brown driving down the street will hear your
mix as intended. As an additional note, be aware that frequency limitations
of your monitoring system can be Detrimental to a quality mix. If you can't
hear a frequency that has been boosted or cut, you don't really know what
your final mix sounds like. It could have a low frequency rumble or a high
pitched squeal that you don't know is there....until someone with a better
system listens to your work and tells you. Or worse yet, deposits your latest
project in the round file with no comment at all! 

I have not heard the Optimus speakers, maybe I should, but only as a "Real
World" alternative, not as my primary monitoring system. I recommend reading
this months Pro Sound News, there is a nice debate on nearfield monitoring!

I welcome you comments
Will
wbrake@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 05:09:46 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: If ya liked them records....
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At 5:49 PM 1/15/97, Paolo Valladolid wrote:
>> everyone here already knows how spiff david is, but anyone who hasn't
>> checked out dj spooky, go buy "songs of a dead dreamer" right now.  groovy
>> urban-ambient type stuff ("illbient"), very inspirational for us loopers.
>> how does he get those sounds???
>>
>> james
>
>Thanks to this list, I heard about dj spooky and Meat Beat Manifesto and
>bought their CDs.  I too found their works to be inspirational.  I don't
>see myself spinning records but I feel I can learn a lot from listening
>to them.
>
>
>Paolo Valladolid

I too recently picked up Mr. Spooky's "dead dreamer" cd, and can attest
that it is really quite cool. It is the only cd I own where the booklet
verbiage quotes Francis Bacon and KRS-One right next to each other!

On the same binge I picked up a few other gems, so for those of you trying
to get beyond, beside, askance, beneath, or otherwise repositioned in
relation to fripp, may I humbly suggest:


DJ Shadow "Endtroducing"

While Mr. Shadow and Mr. Spooky share the same first initials, their music
arrives from totally other places. The spook-man (or, "that air-headed guy"
as a jaded industry friend of mine refered to him) is definitely from the
psychedelic trip-hop scene, with strong techno roots. DJ Shadow is Hip-hop
all the way. I'd heard a lot of buzz on him, basically in the vein of "the
great hope for hip-hop" and "revolutionary."  The CD package even has a
sticker proclaiming DJ Shadow the "Jimi Hendrix or Jimmy Page of the
Sampler." Assuming that's a compliment, we've got some pretty good hype
building here.

DJ Shadow, oddly (or not), is not from the urban inner city, but from the
small argricultural city of Davis, CA. He had some sort of screwed up
childhood and consoled himself by totally immersing in hiphop culture,
eventually spinning discs at local college parties. In interviews he
expresses a very deep knowledge and love of the music, yet is quick to
attack his more successful brethren for the uninspired dreck that has
littered the urban music landscape in recent years. He efficiently makes
the point in one short groovy track entitled "Why Hip Hop sucks in 96." The
to-the-point sample says everything you need to know about Dr. Snoop Coolio
Dre, et al: "It's the money."

Shadow insists hiphop is not dead, and he has apparently set out to revive
it all by himself. "Endtroducing" is his first album, and I love it. It
lives up to all the hype, in my opinion. It's all instrumental, so there
are no cliched gansta poseur raps to get in the way. All the grooves are
fresh (oops, phresh) and interesting, apparently culled through extensive
record store hunting. His virtuosic dj skills create an assortment of
fascinating, brilliant loops and booty wigglin' beats, all coupled with an
excellent sense of composition rarely found in the genre. Even though I
cringe at using the word, it's oftentimes epic, and the tunes are presently
pemanently spinning in my head. DJ Shadow is beating DJ Spooky in my cd
player about 2 to 1 lately....

So, thumbs up, worth 12 bucks, I think I'm gonna buy a turntable.


The other good album I got is The Future Sound of London's new one, "Dead
Cities." The only other album of their's I have is "Lifeforms" (which has
fripp on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!  heh, sorry) I like Dead Cities better. It's less
"ambient" than Lifeforms, more gritty and urban feeling. A lot more
rhythmic and sparse. It's a little inconsistent, as there were some parts
that sounded unfinished somehow, but when it's good, it's really good. FSOL
is from the Ambient-techno side of the loop planet, for those who don't
know. Generally very innovative, using lots of analog synth and electronic
sounds with various sorts of loops coming and going and different
percussion beats moving in and out. Definitely check them out if you are
keen on what all this stuff is about.

(also, check out the Orb, who totally blew me away a year or so ago)


kim


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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:39:25 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Greg's help
Message-Id: <v01520d06af0f162148bf@[200.254.32.129]>
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I really appreciate your extended answeres and kind posts, Greg!

For products that are out of production, or rather an abandoned product
line, I find Lexicons position remarkable, or do you do it out of a
personal interest?

Matthias

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 06:12:36 -0800
From: James Reynolds <tritone@dsp.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Greg's help
Message-Id: <199701251412.GAA07566@dsp.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>I really appreciate your extended answeres and kind posts, Greg!
>
>For products that are out of production, or rather an abandoned product
>line, I find Lexicons position remarkable, or do you do it out of a
>personal interest?
>

yeah, i agree...  if this is lexicon policy, lexicon customer support
rocks...  if it's just the kindness of greg's heart, then greg rocks...

whichever:  thanks, greg.

james

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 06:40:05 -0800
From: James Reynolds <tritone@dsp.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: If ya liked them records....
Message-Id: <199701251440.GAA07675@dsp.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>I too recently picked up Mr. Spooky's "dead dreamer" cd, and can attest
>that it is really quite cool. It is the only cd I own where the booklet
>verbiage quotes Francis Bacon and KRS-One right next to each other!
>
>On the same binge I picked up a few other gems, so for those of you trying
>to get beyond, beside, askance, beneath, or otherwise repositioned in
>relation to fripp, may I humbly suggest:
>
>
>DJ Shadow "Endtroducing"
>

i have a feeling this is the beginning of a long thread.  hope nobody thinks
it's irrelevant:  musical inspiration is always relevant!  (you musical
"isolationists" could benefit from the artists in this discussion - quite a
departure from the fripp paradigm!)

anyways, i wanted to say that i agree about the coolness of DJ Shadow.  but
for abstract, dark, jazzy, weirded-out loops and grooves, japan's DJ Krush
truly blows me away.  the general idea of the music is similar to that of DJ
Shadow (a DJ producing solo albums, rather than just backing up a rapper),
but Krush has a more dark, laid-back, tripped-out approach than Shadow.  he
kind of bridges the gap between Shadow and Spooky - not quite as ambient as
Spooky, but not quite as "active" as Shadow.

his album "strictly turntablized" is a collection of "excursions into the
hiphop avant-garde".  it's purely instrumental and has some deep, tweaked
textures that are amazing.  one of the coolest albums ever.

the albums "krush" and "meiso" are essential too.  the track "edge of blue"
(on "krush") features a delayed, wah-pedaled, whammy-pedaled trumpet solo on
top of a slinky gangsta-bass line that brings tears to my eyes...  these two
albums feature some guest vocals that detract somewhat, but there are still
plenty of redeeming instrumentals.  

anyways, check this stuff out!

james

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:01:14 -0800 (PST)
From: The Man Himself <altruist@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: If ya liked them records....
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970125144916.28186A-100000@shoko.CALARTS.EDU>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

This sounds suspiciously like the beginning of an electronica-oriented 
thread...

I picked up DJ Shadow's _Endtroducing_ and found it interesting but not
mind-blowing.  Perhaps I need to sit down with it some more and delve into
it deeper; there's definitely a great deal of interest there, and I've
been waiting for a long time for someone in the hip-hop community to start
working with odd meter.  But some of the material struck me as backing
tracks in need of an MC on top, without a lot in and of themselves to
recommend extended listening.  I'll have to check this out a few more
times before I level my definitive decision, though.  I also skimmed
through DJ Spooky's disc at a listening station and found the bits I heard
to be interesting, but nothing I felt compelled to pick up. 

I also snatched up a couple of other loop-based electronic albums --
Tricky's _Pre-Millenium Tension_ and Underworld's _Second Toughest In The
Infants_.  Tricky's album I was expecting to be knocked out by, and thus
far I haven't been.  It pretty much encapsulates most of what I tend to
dislike about loop-oriented music, which is a sort of plodding monotony
without the necessary sort of interest or character to justify that sort
of heavy repetition.  Plus, I can't help but think that this is music that
needs to be listened to under, er, states of altered consciousness in
order to be appreciated.  Put another way, this sounds like music made by
people who were quite stoned, to be listened to by people who are quite
stoned.  I think that pretty much rules me out of Tricky's listening base. 

Underworld's album, though, was a revelation for me.  This is some of 
the most happening music I've heard in a long time.  Don't really know 
what to say about it, except that it eschews any standard approaches to 
song-based compositon in favor of a very gradual sort of metaorphoses of 
texture and timbre (ooops, I'm starting to sound like a record label 
press release).  Suffice it to say that I'm enjoying it much.

Anyone else have electronica-oriented recommendatons?

--Andre

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:52:46 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: If ya liked them records....
Message-Id: <v02140b01af1046ee0a6d@[207.171.196.50]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>I too recently picked up Mr. Spooky's "dead dreamer" cd, and can attest
>>that it is really quite cool. It is the only cd I own where the booklet
>>verbiage quotes Francis Bacon and KRS-One right next to each other!
>>
>>On the same binge I picked up a few other gems, so for those of you trying
>>to get beyond, beside, askance, beneath, or otherwise repositioned in
>>relation to fripp, may I humbly suggest:
>>
>>
>>DJ Shadow "Endtroducing"
>>
>
>i have a feeling this is the beginning of a long thread.  hope nobody thinks
>it's irrelevant:  musical inspiration is always relevant!  (you musical
>"isolationists" could benefit from the artists in this discussion - quite a
>departure from the fripp paradigm!)

I don't think its even slightly irrelevant, because for me
dj/techno/hiphop/industrial/dub types of music are where all my looping
motivation comes from. I had barely even heard of Robert Fripp before I got
deeply into the Echoplex project and his name kept coming up in relation to
looping. I still haven't ever listened to his soundscapes, unless the
noises he was making in between songs at the Crimson shows I saw were
soundscapes.

Anyway, I'm glad to see others showing up here who come to looping from
other spaces. I think a little cross-pollination will do us all a lot of
good. I think I'll also take this moment to out a list lurker who came to
our very small looper convention at NAMM. Pat Kirtley is a Taylor clinician
and the 1995 figerstyle champion, not to mention an avid looper. He was
telling me all about Les Paul's early contributions to delay devices and
Chet Atkins current forays into looping. I'd love to hear more, and I'm
looking forward to his promised articles for the Looper's Delight web site.
I think he can give us some great perspective on how looping is taking a
place in bluegrass and acoustic music. Feel free to de-lurk any time Pat!


>
>anyways, i wanted to say that i agree about the coolness of DJ Shadow.  but
>for abstract, dark, jazzy, weirded-out loops and grooves, japan's DJ Krush
>truly blows me away.  the general idea of the music is similar to that of DJ
>Shadow (a DJ producing solo albums, rather than just backing up a rapper),
>but Krush has a more dark, laid-back, tripped-out approach than Shadow.  he
>kind of bridges the gap between Shadow and Spooky - not quite as ambient as
>Spooky, but not quite as "active" as Shadow.

Hey, excellent! I've heard of Krush but hadn't checked it out yet. I'll be
picking it up on the next binge for sure.....


>
>his album "strictly turntablized" is a collection of "excursions into the
>hiphop avant-garde".  it's purely instrumental and has some deep, tweaked
>textures that are amazing.  one of the coolest albums ever.
>
>the albums "krush" and "meiso" are essential too.  the track "edge of blue"
>(on "krush") features a delayed, wah-pedaled, whammy-pedaled trumpet solo on
>top of a slinky gangsta-bass line that brings tears to my eyes...  these two
>albums feature some guest vocals that detract somewhat, but there are still
>plenty of redeeming instrumentals.
>
>anyways, check this stuff out!

looking forward to it!


Who else has some recomendations to help us all expand our horizons a bit?
Hey, here's an idea: The loopography page needs more stuff. Right now it's
almost entirely consisting Michael Peter's selections. Now Michael
certainly has excellent taste, but as always, multiple contributions make
it better. How about if we all try to think of just one or two recordings
that made a looping impact on us, write a little review, and forward it on
to Michael to add?

Two albums that made a big impact on me, which you should check out if you
aren't familiar with these, are:

Public Enemy, "Fear of a Black Planet" - still gives me some of the biggest
goosebumps of any album I've ever listened to. The rhythm tracks a
masterpieces.

Ministry, "The Mind is Terrible Thing to Taste" - The quintessential
industrial album for me, this one caused geeky synthesizer nerds and
neanderthalic metal heads the world over to look at each other for the
first time in a positive way and say, "dude, lets jam!"

I'll write more serious reviews for the page as soon as I find a moment....

kim

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:57:21 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: If ya liked them records....
Message-Id: <v02140b02af104dc7a63e@[207.171.196.50]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Underworld's album, though, was a revelation for me.  This is some of
>the most happening music I've heard in a long time.  Don't really know
>what to say about it, except that it eschews any standard approaches to
>song-based compositon in favor of a very gradual sort of metaorphoses of
>texture and timbre (ooops, I'm starting to sound like a record label
>press release).  Suffice it to say that I'm enjoying it much.
>
>Anyone else have electronica-oriented recommendatons?

I've got Underworld's "dubnobasswithmyheadman," which is also quite
excellent. They manage to achieve this laid back techno feel that just
grooves like hell. I've been listening to that album a lot.

kim

______________________________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 16:12:12 -0800
From: James Reynolds <tritone@dsp.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: If ya liked them records....
Message-Id: <199701260012.QAA14857@dsp.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>I also snatched up a couple of other loop-based electronic albums --
>Tricky's _Pre-Millenium Tension_ and Underworld's _Second Toughest In The
>Infants_.  

you really should check out the two precursors to these albums, tricky's
"maxinquaye" and underworld's "dubnobasswithmyheadman".  they two albums you
mentioned are good, but a little spotty at times.  the two older albums seem
much more consistent to me.  they aren't "plodding" - they DO something,
although in a gradual way.  the textures are dark and deep, mellow with
solid grooves and metamorphosing textures and unrecognizable samples (is
that a javanese gamelan i hear?).

might as well add a few more recommendations, as long as i have someone's
attention.  i'm really into dark, strange, minimal, abstract music based on
slowed-down hiphop beats.  some favorites:

scorn: ambient dub with messed up hiphop beats - some odd times and accents
in weird places.  great dark textures which gradually change over time.
check out the album "gyral" or the meat beat manifesto remix of "silver rain
fell".

meat beat manifesto: the new double album is a departure from the older
stuff - even more abstract, stranger, darker.  great loops and grooves,
freaky sounds.

portishead: some might consider this too commercial, but hey let's face it,
the album "dummy" is incredible.  haunted-house-film-noir-hip-hop kind of
stuff.  includes samples and live instruments.  (they played most drum parts
themselves, printed them onto vinyl, then sampled and processed them to get
the authentic sound.  works!)

skylab: the tracks "seashell" and "river of bass" from the album "#1" are
just about perfect.  sparse beats and and freakish synth and sample textures.

red snapper: a quartet consisting of drums, acoustic bass, guitar, and
sax/accordion/flute.  i know what you're thinking... but the way they
process and treat their instruments turns the music into a twisted, textural
groovescape!  sparse accordion notes swelling in under heavy reverb, bass
lines run thru tremolo and looped backwards... strange etherial guitar noises...

tasty stuff.

james

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 19:32:18 -0500
From: neato@pipeline.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: If ya liked them records....
Message-Id: <v01540b00af100f97bf1e@[38.26.23.117]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

neato says:
here's a copy of a posting i made to the ambient list a couple of weeks ago...

piled up all my 96 "ambient" releases and these emerged:

-howie b-music for babies...this one got played more than anything else
throughout the year and is still a late night fave...file next to skylab#1
-hia/biosphere-polar sequences...it sounds like when you're a kid and the
snow is falling in the streetlight glow...let it snow let it snow let it
snow
-sacred system-chapter one book of entrance...of the many laswell related,
this assortment of dub rocked nicely as a whole
-tetsu inoue-world receiver...for interlink alone...which i heard on
divination- distill first actually, but...
-djamel ben yelles-1002 nights...perhaps bordering on saccharin, but still
pleasantly endearing...melodious plus

honorable mention:
on any given day terry riley's-lisbon concert- could have been in
there...not the most classic of rileys many beautiful works, but an artist
so important it would be remiss not to mention him

cheers


p.s.-stanton makes looping devices...i've seen rack mount and small pedal
types...they're for dj's, but ...anybody have any info

                                     all my mistakes were once acts of genius
                                                       neato@pipeline com

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:54:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Reflex/Vortex Resonators
Message-ID: <970123233431_913863569@emout05.mail.aol.com>

> Not really... I was hoping for something more along the lines of waveform
> transformation... speaking of which, has anyone tried using a pitch-shifter
> to vary the waveform by adding low-level, octave-up "harmonics"?

Now THIS is a job for the VG-8....pitch-shifting each string separately with
pedal-blendable shifts of from + to -24 half-steps definitely restructures
the waveform, making the strings sound like they're made of different
materials, etc... (NOT amongst the in-store presets, mind you).
e-mails for more info gladly responded to...
dp

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 23:24:17 -0500 (EST)
From: PMimlitsch@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Jamman with Midi Fade
Message-ID: <970124175108_1892986597@emout09.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 1/24/97 5:41:30 AM, you wrote:

<<Has anybody tried using the MIDI fade option?  The manual (unclearly)
states that if you stop fading and start recording again the new recording
is at the faded volume. Is that so and if it is, how do you start looping
again at full volume without stopping the loop?  Will Replace cancel the
fade function?>>

If you stop a fade and resume recording the faded loop will cease to fade and
continue to play at the volume it had faded to before you stopped the fade.
 The newly recorded (layered) stuff will be at whatever volume the Jamman was
set up for initially.  A cool trick and one that isn't clearly stated in the
manually is to initiate a fade while in record mode (you have to be working
with a defined loop--that is one that has a start and stop point). Then
anything you play is layered on what's fading and also fades. This is the
same as using echo mode with various (aside from "16"=infinite playback)
feedback settings.--Paul

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:03:39 -0800
From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Torn article  ie beyond Fripp
Message-Id: <v02140b05af1095847ff3@[207.171.196.170]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>John said:
>>Sept 96 issue of Guitar player has David Torn revealing his secrets for
>>looping for those of you wishing to go "Beyond Fripp".  I very inspiring
>>article.
>>
>>Unfortunately they put the "Space Rock" article on the web instead of
>>the Torn article, so'll you have to visit your library or borrow a friend's
>>mag.
>
>You can find said article on the Torn Web page.  And the URL is....
>
>http://ott22.engin.umich.edu/torn/writings/in-the-loop.html
>


The torn article from guitar player is also on the Looper's Delight site,
in case you don't want to stray to far from home:

http://www.annihilist.com/loop/musings/David_Torn/Torn_Loop_Article.html


kim

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:58:00 -0500
From: Michael Peters <100041.247@compuserve.com>
To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: If ya liked them records....
Message-ID: <199701260910_MC2-1036-17A9@compuserve.com>

> Who else has some recomendations to help us all expand our horizons a
bit?
> Hey, here's an idea: The loopography page needs more stuff. Right now
it's
> almost entirely consisting Michael Peter's selections. Now Michael
> certainly has excellent taste, 

very true :)

> but as always, multiple contributions make it better. 
> How about if we all try to think of just one or two recordings
> that made a looping impact on us, write a little review, and forward it
on
> to Michael to add?

yes, please do, but I think the page for "essential loop recordings" should
only contain recordings which actually use loops or loopy repetitions. For
all the other stuff, we could of course set up another page. If you submit
something, please add infos about the release year so I know where to put
them.

Michael Peters   
private:        100041.247@compuserve.com
work:   mp@harold-scholz.de
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters

(Never pistle while you whee)

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 10:34:28 +0200
From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Echoplex Pedal Needed
Message-Id: <v01520d00af10c7005f74@[205.177.25.43]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

A friend is wanting to buy an Echoplex from Washington Music Center, but in
the past month they have been unable to produce the pedal to go with it.
They say it is on back order. Is this generally a production issue? Any
suggestions where he might find both? Or just the pedal?

Patrick

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 12:14:52 -0500
From: neato@pipeline.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE: If ya liked them records....
Message-Id: <v01540b00af10f9cf0ab2@[38.26.33.52]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

 mp@harold-scholz.de wrote:
>yes, please do, but I think the page for "essential loop recordings" should
>only contain recordings which actually use loops or loopy repetitions. For
>all the other stuff,

neato says:
of course i know what you mean, but...in these days between drum loops,
bass loops sampled vocal loops, etc etc, you'd probably find it harder to
find something not using loops! practically all
techno-industrial-ambient-dance-acid jazz is based on them in some form or
another...
cheers

                                     all my mistakes were once acts of genius
                                                       neato@pipeline com

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 12:17:50 -0500
From: neato@pipeline.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Echoplex Pedal Needed
Message-Id: <v01540b01af10fbb77d6a@[38.26.25.116]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Patrick@his.com wrote:
>A friend is wanting to buy an Echoplex from Washington Music Center, but in
>the past month they have been unable to produce the pedal to go with it.

neato says:
i've heard similar stories in nyc...backorder backorder backorder

cheers

                                     all my mistakes were once acts of genius
                                                       neato@pipeline com

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