------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 162 Today's Topics: Re: jon hassell.... [ "Joseph Buck" ] Signing off for now [ "Paul J. Dresher" ] JMan Fade message/MIDI [ Mark Sottilaro ] Re: KK Null (was: Music - non loop) [ Erik Ljones ] Re: Sick Vortex Morphing Patch [ Ed Drake ] Re: Sick Vortex Morphing Patch [ Chris Chovit ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:14:57 PDT From: "Joseph Buck" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: jon hassell.... Message-ID: <19970923171457.6400.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Is that Italian CD (I believe on Materiali Sonori) any good? That 808 state ep actually dates from around the City era. That arboretum show sounds amazing.... Salam, Buck ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:51:03 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: jon hassell.... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Hola Michael- > >Well it has been awhile but he seems to have picked up the pace. Doing >*exceptional* work on the ry cooder score for the end of violence (one >of the most thought provoking films I have seen), a track on kd lang's >album, a live appearance of bluescreen mkII at a festival in europe, and >some installation work.... I really liked Hassell's playing on Cooders soundtrack to "Trespass". Also, as I was scanning the channels the other night, I noticed that he composed the theme music, but not the incidental music, to the TV series "The Practice". Onbly problem is, I've never managed to catch the beginning of the show, and have not heard this yet. >hassell as eno has said is one of our greatest minds and i am glad he is >serving more up... >for folks wanting to begin with some hassell try powerspot(eno! jean >philippe rykiel!, michael brook!), city: works of fiction (truly magical >unknown music), or for loopage unlike you have ever heard- aka darbari >java (amazing this was made in 1983!)... I second these recommendations completely, City: Works of Fiction is an amazing album, treating urban music, rightly so, as another ethnic source. I listened to it a month ago or so, for the first time in a few years, and its amazing how well it has held up. Bluescreen, which as far as I know is his last CD, has not held up so well for me, it veers close to urban contemporary jazz in places, but has some nice moments. Aka:Darbari:Java is a looping masterpiece, especially considering what tools he made it with. >his 4th world work with eno seems nigh impossible to get.... > I still see the EG records turn up on vinyl, thought I don't believe they were ever issued on CD. Also, a few records he did on Eno's short-lived major label Opal turn up occaisionally: there's an excellent live record with an extremely long title that begins "The Surgeon of the Night Sky...", and a record he did with a traditional african ensemble whose title escapes me right now. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 17:51:42 -0400 From: Michael Peters To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: jon hassell.... Message-ID: <199709231751_MC2-2194-4FF9@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Dave says: >>his 4th world work with eno seems nigh impossible to get.... >I still see the EG records turn up on vinyl, thought I don't believe they >were ever issued on CD. yes they were, all of them: Vernal Equinox is on Lovely Music I've seen Earthquake Island on CD (does anyone have that and wants to sell it to me?) Possible Musics was a regular EG release on CD Dream Theory in Malaya and Aka-Darbari-Java were released on Japan CDs >and a record he did with a traditional african ensemble >whose title escapes me right now Flash of the Spirit, with Farafina. I saw an incredible concert of that many years ago ... ___________ Michael Peters http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters HOP - Fractals in Motion ..."the only screen saver you'll ever want" http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 17:51:45 -0400 From: Michael Peters To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: jon hassell.... Message-ID: <199709231752_MC2-2194-4FFD@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline > Is that Italian CD (I believe on Materiali Sonori) any good? Only for the collector, I'd say. (Like me .) Some of the pieces are taken from the Dream Theory in Malaya album, and there are some others in a similar style, but none of them as good. Also, for some reason, they put some of the dramatic Italian dialogues on the album, some of them over the music. While this might be interesting for the people who saw the show, to me it doesn't seem like a good idea. ___________ Michael Peters http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters HOP - Fractals in Motion ..."the only screen saver you'll ever want" http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:01:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Paolo Valladolid To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: music Message-Id: <199709232201.PAA13080@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Late check-in... > So how about this, what music are you all listening to these days? Which > artists are inspiring you for looping or otherwise? If I go to the record > store on Saturday, what should I get? Lately I've been listening to the following: 3 Trios - Nguyen Le Le originally caught my attention with his CD _Tales Of Vietnam_; mostly Vietnamese folk songs reharmonized into jazz setting. Turns out he's pretty darn good at guitar-playing in a more pure instrumental setting as well. Great stuff from the three acoustic bassists and percussionists on this CD as well. Kiki's Delivery Service Original Soundtrack Soundtrack to the Japanese animated film about a young witch striking out on her own. Nothing particularly revolutionary here; just music I currently enjoy chilling out with - invokes thoughts of the French/German/Swiss countryside. BTW, this was one of several Studio Ghibli movies that routinely clobbered the competition from Disney in Japan. As a result, Disney has agreed to distribute Studio Ghibli films in the U.S. sometime next year. Vision Of Escaflowne Original Sountrack Vol. 1 Soundtrack to the Japanese animated TV series. Most of the music seems to be strongly influeced by orchestral music from the Romantic and Impressionist eras of Western classical tradition (think Star Wars or Raiders Of the Lost Ark). The composer, Yoko Kanno, has also shown a wide variety of influences from ethnic musics to various pop forms to electronic music in her work but aside from the three "pop" tunes (one done entirely with acoustic instruments such as mandolin) this CD is mostly devoted to that big, epic kind of sound. Sol - Greg Howard Features Stick wizard Greg Howard exploring mostly Latin-flavored instrumentals in solo and group settings. Pretty good stuff from one of the premiere players of the instrument. Orblivion - The Orb You all know who these guys are. It seems darker than other albums of theirs I've heard. > Here's another one we haven't delved into for a long time: What is it about > looping that makes it interesting, fun, musical? Why do we want to do it? > Why does it show up in so many types of music? Is it something in human > nature, learned from culture, what? A popular theory is that humans naturally respond to rhythm. Sorry I can't say more - I still have a lot to learn myself. Paolo Valladolid --------------------------------------------------------------- |Moderator of Digital Guitar Digest, an Internet mailing list |\ |for Music Technology and Stringed Instruments | \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- | \ finger pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu for more info \ | \ http://waynesworld.ucsd.edu/DigitalGuitar/home.html \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 17:22:52 PDT From: "Joseph Buck" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: a-d-j Message-Id: <199709240022.RAA16229@f53.hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain >Dream Theory in Malaya and = > >Aka-Darbari-Java = > >were released on Japan CDs A-D-J was also released here in America on Caroline.... loopers check out that bad boy. esta muy influential para David Torn. salam, buck ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 18:05:44 -0700 From: erik simpson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: jon hassell.... Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970924010544.0068f64c@on-ramp.ior.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:51 PM 9/23/97 -0800, you wrote: >I still see the EG records turn up on vinyl, thought I don't believe they >were ever issued on CD. Also, a few records he did on Eno's short-lived >major label Opal turn up occaisionally: there's an excellent live record >with an extremely long title that begins "The Surgeon of the Night Sky...", >and a record he did with a traditional african ensemble whose title escapes >me right now. > Just to repeat what others have chimed in with; Actually they all were issued on cd at one time on Caroline, i believe. I snapped them all up when they came out, a few years back. Some of my all time favorite stuff. The one with Farafina was called "Flash of the Spirit". I also have "Earthquake Island", which I believe is pre-Eno, even though there are no recording dates on the disc. It has a bit more of a "Bitches Brew" vibe for me, but with people like Miroslav Vitous, Nana Vasconcelos, Badal Roy and Dom Um Romao, that is hardly surprising, and the trumpet playing still sounds fairly highly processed. Not as much intense looping as his later work, but you can hear how that whole mind-boggling run ("4th World", "Surgeon of the Nightsky..." "Aka/Darbari/Java", "Dream Theory..", etc., etc.) is right around the corner. The man is truly a giant in my estimation, and yes, he does deserve his own list. I would definitely be there. I had been interested in the "End of Violence" score. I got the Soundtrack, (Orbison and Eno is just too weird an idea to pass on, even if the actuality is somewhat (actually much) less than I would have hoped for. But with Barbara Orbison as Executive Producer, you know he wasn't going to be laying the vocal tracks over an extended version of "Somber Reptiles".) and I liked the Cooder track a lot and was going to seek out the Score. Interesting to hear Hassell is on it. (I loved the "Trespass" soundtrack). Now I must redouble my efforts. Back to lurking. Bye; Erik Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:16:10 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: seasons & music Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -Erik-: >My music seems to move slowly over time in a less dynamic manner in the >fall and winter, making it sound more "ambient", I guess. For this reason I >activily try to expose myself to these conditions. yep, I also had the stong impression, when I moved to Brasil, that the change of clima changed my music at least as much as the influence of the local music. Stephen >I presently am working on a second year's worth of loops for my Book Of >Days series (which has a different loop for each of 366 days), with an >effort to produce one for each day What an amazing effort! Is there a chance that the "book" turns publishable? Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 09:15:31 -0400 (EDT) From: andre To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: JFK's LSD UFO comes alive...... Message-Id: <199709241315.JAA05569@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >hello fellow loopers/digital guitarists.... welcome to the fall... those of you in the east of north america... i've got a couple shows coming up - lots of live looping, digital noise, analog tweakage, vortex abuse, midi-evil squack, y'know...if you haven't heard us yet - check it out!!! Thanks to all of you who've bought our debut cassette at the store or thru the mail or thru internet... we really appreciate it. It's chaotic, quiet/loud duo music FRIDAY SEPT 26 Jfk's Lsd Ufo 9:30 pm EARLY SET!!!!! The Brighton Bar-121 Brighton Ave-Longbranch NJ 732-222-9684 also: SATURDAY SEPT 27 - Jfk's Lsd Ufo Live at THE BOOK PIT 7:30 pm behind Dorn's Photo Shop-Wallace ST, REd bank NJ phone # listed, or call 732-747-6448 for info (this is a cheap, non-smoking, all ages show!!! ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:45:05 -0400 From: "Paul J. Dresher" To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Signing off for now Message-ID: <199709241145_MC2-21A6-7A4B@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Loopers: Just heading off on tour with my new Echoplexes and a new piece to premier in Canada. I'll be signing off for a while so I just wanted to thank all those who helped me get my tech together in the past month and thank you all for the continuing interesting dialog. Back soon, Paul Dresher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 13:28:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Levin To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Orion Space Rock Festival in Baltimore Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey folks, We're doing a space rock fest here in Maryland in a few weeks. One of the featured acts is Fingerpaint who took part in the Philly Loop show earlier this year. From my perusal of one of the members' rigs last Saturday, it's been assimilating looping devices and effects doohickeys faster than the max loop-time on my old Compueffectron. Check it out: Orion Sound Studios 2903 Whittington Ave Baltimore, Maryland The Orion Space Rock Festival will be held on Saturday October 18th at Orion Sound Studios in Baltimore, Maryland. This all day festival will feature the top U.S. Space Rock acts performing full sets accompanied by a psychedelic light show. There will be a wide range of space rock styles presented. Everything from loop-based ambient music to full blown intense mind blowing sci-fi rock. Featured performers: o Alien Planetscapes o Architectural Metaphor o Escapade o Quarkspace o Fingerpaint ADMISSION: $25.00 at the door. All ages welcome! OTHER INFO: Call the studio at 410.646.7334 after 2pm EST, email alevin@ari.net, or point your favorite web browser to http://prog.ari.net/prog/shows/showcase/ Orion Studios is a rehearsal and recording studio located in beautiful southwest Baltimore, Maryland. Orion has 21 rehearsal studios which are rented on a monthly basis, plus a 24 track digital recording studio attached to a showcase room. The show will take place in the Showcase Room. We have no liquor license, so its a BYOB affair. Sodas will be available. There will be a retail area where the bands and other vendors will be selling CDs, tapes, and T-shirts, so bring plenty of cash! Vendors interested in attending should call Orion or email mpotter@stsci.edu about table rentals. ======================================================================== Directions: -Take I-95 to exit 50, Caton Ave. (Just inside the south west side of the 695 beltway) -Take Caton Ave south to the third traffic light and turn left onto Washington Blvd -Go 1/4 mile up the hill to the U-Haul sign and turn right onto Inverness. -At the end of Inverness, turn left onto Whittington Ave. -Go to the end of Whittington and turn right into the parking lot at 2903 Whittington, in the Whittington Business Center. -Orion is on the right. -Adam --- "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue, out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one becomes a Hearer." - Chandrakirti ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:46:45 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: JMan Fade message/MIDI Message-ID: <3429B473.573B@mailbox.syr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attention all JamMan loopers! Does anyone know of any way of getting a loop to fade while you're adding to it, other than a MIDI message? A new member of my group has just purchased a used JMan and he doesn't have any way to transmit MIDI. Is there a way to maybe get the JamMan to synch to a MIDI clock while in delay mode? That would work as well. Any suggestions would be helpful, thanks. Mark Sottilaro. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 20:32:51 +0200 From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Music - non loop Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well Kim if you heading off to the record store this weekend and don't kave a copy of the Merman release Songs of the Cows. I guess you could call it surf music for the nineties....nice fun riffs...I'm certainly not a reviewer but with the abundance of guitarists on this list I had to throw this one out........ And on the dark side of things I've been enjoying a release by KK Null and James Plotkin called Aurora......dark droning heavily treated guitars oof the netherworld....... Patrick *** *** ** Fingerpaint http://www.his.com/~patrick/FNGP.html *** ** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:35:11 -0400 (EDT) From: BlkSwan03@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: the rest of the story about OBERHEIM Message-ID: <970924233334_1298487234@emout09.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 9/20/97 1:08:27 PM, you wrote: <> Mike Lyon is a major psychotic liar that lied and bullshitted his way to his position with Oberheim. He has single handedly put off more customers and dealers than anyone else at that company. He lied to me and kept me waiting for the upgrade for two (yes two) years. I had two units that would not work in stereo because of a known software glitch that he just played dumb about. I've never experienced a worse run company than Oberheim. I really hope that Gibson solves the problems over there and saves this company and some of the great products they market. The people that create these products and the people that put their faith in them and buy them deserve a lot better. My question to Gibson: Who the hell was responsible for not properly overseeing this company? And who on earth was responsible for hiring such a complete goon as Mike Lyon? The Echoplex is a great product and it deserve a lot better than this. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 05:57:09 -0400 From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) To: 'Loopers Delight' Subject: Sick Vortex Morphing Patch Message-ID: <01BCC977.DD5297C0@mark.asisoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Since Andy Butler's Vortex website is out of commission, I thought I'd pass along this sick Vortex morphing patch to all loopers. It doesn't loop, but when fed into a looper you get something really horrible. One side of the morph sounds very ringy and metallic, while the other side is nearly overtaken by a siren-like sine wave. Algorithm: Mosaic A Mosaic B Envelope: 16 1 Morph A/B: 22 64 Echo FX Level: 12 05 Mod FX Lvl: 64 64 Output: 64 64 Mix: 64 64 Fdbk 1: 30 28 Fdbk 2: 30 28 Rate 1: 41 22 Depth 1: 64 57 Resonance 1: 64 1 Rate 2: 19 12 Depth 2: 30 34 Resonance 2: 7 64 Echo 1: 4 16 Echo 2: 6 16 Assign an expression pedal to control Morph A/B. Kim: Maybe a looper who knows HTML could set up a form on the L-D Vortex page so that other loopers could contribute their patches. Cheers, Mark Kata Mark@asisoftware.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:02:44 -0400 From: Jon Durant <74074.1316@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: music (new alchemical thingies) Message-ID: <199709250803_MC2-21C0-5C26@compuserve.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sean writes: >Ok, you've got my atention - any more you can tell us about the Manring >project? Well, it's underway, most of the material is written/recorded. Michael's extremely busy as a sideman just now (surprise?) and hasn't had much time to finish. The latest projection is that we'll mix in November, probably won't see the light of retail before February. But: it's an intensely cool record, with Michael doing mostly everything. Much funkier than any of his previous recordings, trippier, not so much metal as Thonk, not so delicate as his other Windham Hell recordings. Perhaps I could say that it is to Manring what "What Means Solid, Traveller?" is to Torn. Right, that said I also need to mention the nearly finished William Camire record as the experience will perhaps sound oddly similar to many on the list. "Fourteen Years" is an album of material originaly created fourteen years ago. It was then reassembled, reinvigorated, reinvented with today's mindset and technological capabilities. (Though I need to point out that it's still heavy on analog synths and lo-fi approaches to sound sources: apart from the jamman, there's no "sampling" on the record.) It's an "ambient" album, perhaps harkening back to Eno's Ambient 4, though I've not listened to that record in many years, so I really don't know whether that connection really stands up. Anyway, the point is this: while working on this record, we've found that after a couple hours of intense work on it, our minds are completely turned into jello. It's draining our creativity in a really painful way. Yet, listening back to the rough mixes (a day later), it's a beautiful, relaxing record. Anyone else go through this? later, jd ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:28:57 -0700 From: "Julia & Dave" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Vortex live (long) Message-Id: <199709251427.KAA17033@mail.colba.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I played a gig last night in which a performance artist/painter was getting a tattoo done on his spine, and my job was to take the close miked sound of the needle, run it thru my EMS Pitch-To-Voltage Converter to drive a VCS-3, which in turn was being fed directly through the Vortex and my SDE-330 Dimensional Space Delay. I had a long cluster echo on the Delay, and a sweet variation on the Bleen patch on the Vortex which I was madly editing in real-time just cycling away. Since I have only owned my Vortex for a couple of weeks, I hadn't had the chance to use it in a live situation. At some point, I was trying to figure out which patch point on the VCS-3 was doing all this wonderful wailing and spinning and it was then I realized it was the Lexicon talking. What a powerful device. You haven't truly experienced the Vortex until you've used it in a concert setting. There was also someone doing live video processing who at some point generated some nice swirling patterns. I wonder why?... Everyone got home safely, their hearing intact (no ringing) and their internal organs only slightly crushed by the spinning subharmonics. Just thought I'd share this with you. D 4 V 1 D K R 1 5 T 1 4 N Not always that noisy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 16:41:10 +0200 From: Erik Ljones To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: KK Null (was: Music - non loop) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970925164110.0073662c@pop.stud.ntnu.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Patrick wrote: >And on the dark side of things I've been enjoying a release by KK Null and >James Plotkin called Aurora......dark droning heavily treated guitars oof >the netherworld....... Is KK Null that Japanese guy who usually fronts for the band ZENI GEVA? If so, I think I once heard him in a collaboration with Jim O'Rourke, but I can't remember what it was called. I think he also releases disturbing (guitar-) noise recordings under the name NULL. Perhaps someone else knows more about this? -Erik- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:51:18 -0500 From: Ed Drake To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Sick Vortex Morphing Patch Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mark Kata posted this earlier: >Since Andy Butler's Vortex website is out of commission, I thought I'd >pass along this sick Vortex morphing patch to all loopers. It doesn't >loop, but when fed into a looper you get something really >horrible......(snip) >Kim: Maybe a looper who knows HTML could set up a form on the L-D Vortex >page so that other loopers could contribute their patches. I'll offer my assistance here, I actually had started a Vortex patch page for LD, but put it on hold when Andy Butler started his page. I guess people could submit their patches directly to me or post them to the list and I'll periodically collect them and send them to kim for the web. Would you like to see each patch put on its' own page linked from a main Vortex patch page or have all patches put on the same page? I think it makes more sense to put each patch on its' own page, as I can just send new pages to kim as needed. Anyway let me know if I can help! Ed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 11:20:01 -0700 From: Chris Chovit To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Sick Vortex Morphing Patch Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Looping folks, I'd like to offer my assitance here, too. I am currently in the process of coming up with some CGI code to allow people to enter their "personal profile" directly from the web browser, rather than having to send the info to Michael, Michael format the info, then send it to Kim to post it. Once you guys have settled on a standard format for the Vortex patch files, let me know and I will attempt to come up with some code that would allow folks to enter them directly from a browser. Also, I was wondering: do you think it would be useful to have a search engine for the personal profiles (as we do with the mailing list archives)? I thought this might be useful, and would be easy to set up. Any feedback here? Back in town, - Chris >Mark Kata posted this earlier: > >>Since Andy Butler's Vortex website is out of commission, I thought I'd >>pass along this sick Vortex morphing patch to all loopers. It doesn't >>loop, but when fed into a looper you get something really >>horrible......(snip) > >>Kim: Maybe a looper who knows HTML could set up a form on the L-D Vortex >>page so that other loopers could contribute their patches. > >I'll offer my assistance here, I actually had started a Vortex patch page >for LD, but put it on hold when Andy Butler started his page. I guess >people could submit their patches directly to me or post them to the list >and I'll periodically collect them and send them to kim for the web. Would >you like to see each patch put on its' own page linked from a main Vortex >patch page or have all patches put on the same page? I think it makes more >sense to put each patch on its' own page, as I can just send new pages to >kim as needed. Anyway let me know if I can help! > >Ed __________________________________________________ Chris Chovit avec@gomez.jpl.nasa.gov AVIRIS Experiment Coordinator pager #: (888) 415-4547 --------------------------------