------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 17 Today's Topics: getting into "the zone" [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Re: Echoplex Pedal Needed [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Re: Reflex/Vortex Resonators [ Neil Goldstein ] Re: If ya liked them records.... [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ] re:Greg's help [ "Bret Moreland" ] Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (kinda) [ lowfrqcy@west.net (mulB nayR) ] Re: If ya liked them records.... [ John Pollock ] Re: slider & pedal for a vortex [ "Hogan, Greg" ] RE: Greg's help [ "Hogan, Greg" ] RE: Greg's help [ Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, ] Re: If ya liked them records.... [ "Hogan, Greg" ] RE: Greg's help [ "Hogan, Greg" ] Re: Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (ki [ nyfac ] Re: Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (ki [ nyfac ] Re: Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (ki [ MiqSk8@aol.com ] Re: Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (ki [ angel@matisse.pet.upenn.edu (Emmanu ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:04:55 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: getting into "the zone" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" John brought up: >The closest I've ever come to a formula for cultivating getting into >"the zone" was when I was gigging regularly, and playing a song I knew >well and played frequently (usually pretty much the same way). I would >make a conscious decision to do one thing differently than usual-- start >a solo on a different note, for example, or try a much slower tempo. Of >course, it didn't always work-- but sometimes it did. :-) Sounds like taking a risk is a important part. To "trust that it comes out right" is maybe similar to "calling the angel" >What matters is the ability to play without conscious thought. Right. But what does your conscious care about while this? Nothing? I do not think so. You are aware of technical things of the stage, reactions of the public... just not your composition, only the result of it, is that it? I tried to play without paying atention at all. Did not work. It takes listening, better even admiration for what comes out, without egoistic thinking. >At this point, looping seems to be so cerebral that I'm not sure I'll >be able to reach that level. Discuss? Is it? For me its the train into the zone! For my sound, reverb is important, too. Thats why they made the churches high in the middle age. Or do we react on reverb because generations of monks sang in it and related the sound to... Before looping I had the experiences with the zone, mostly solos I did not remember after the concert. Listening to the tape I note that I only remembered the bad parts and not the good ones. I still have that tendency. But since looping, its much more conscious. A friend (neither in love nor musician, just audience) once explained. "when you start playing, its nothing, just some stupid notes. But then I see the train coming, from far, and when its here, all is different and the notes turn into music and we all get on the train" So the operation of the machinery may be cerebral, but this maybe even helps me to play without thinking about playing? No, I think, once its really rolling, the operation of the machinery is inconscious, too. I remember to have touched a key by accident, like stumbling, and been annoyed about "screwing up the loop" that very moment. Later when I listened to the tape, I realized that it was the perfect step, so... The thing might be the integration of the whole equipment. The volume pedal can be operated in a "cerebral" way, but soon, it expresses automatically. More thoughts. experiences? Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:05:28 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Pedal Needed Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Patrick needs a pedal >A friend is wanting to buy an Echoplex from Washington Music Center, but in >the past month they have been unable to produce the pedal to go with it. >They say it is on back order. Is this generally a production issue? Any >suggestions where he might find both? Or just the pedal? Make your own. Its really simple and for a lower price you can do it better, and according to your taste and needs, easily. Kim gave a lot of explanations on the site, if its not enough, keep asking. Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:01:25 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Goldstein To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Reflex/Vortex Resonators Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Not really... I was hoping for something more along the lines of waveform >> transformation... speaking of which, has anyone tried using a pitch-shifter >> to vary the waveform by adding low-level, octave-up "harmonics"? > >Now THIS is a job for the VG-8....pitch-shifting each string separately with >pedal-blendable shifts of from + to -24 half-steps definitely restructures >the waveform, making the strings sound like they're made of different >materials, etc... (NOT amongst the in-store presets, mind you). >e-mails for more info gladly responded to... >dp Yeah, I'm a huge fan of the VG8 (to own one is to love one) and would love to hear your comments on this. BTW, I got your patches from the website. Nice work! Neil ngold@teleport.com Portland, OR USA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:07:20 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: If ya liked them records.... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:52 PM 1/25/97, Kim Flint wrote: >>: >>his album "strictly turntablized" is a collection of "excursions into the >>hiphop avant-garde". it's purely instrumental and has some deep, tweaked >>textures that are amazing. one of the coolest albums ever. >> >>the albums "krush" and "meiso" are essential too. the track "edge of blue" >>(on "krush") features a delayed, wah-pedaled, whammy-pedaled trumpet solo on >>top of a slinky gangsta-bass line that brings tears to my eyes... these two >>albums feature some guest vocals that detract somewhat, but there are still >>plenty of redeeming instrumentals. >> >>anyways, check this stuff out! > >looking forward to it! > I second these rec's, Krush is very interesting. This might be a stereotype, but I find his mixes to have a haiku quality: simple, spare, with very few elements, but with a wonderful sense of internal balance and completeness. I think Krush is kind of the opposite end of the spectrum from DJ Spooky, whose mixes tend to be very complex and busy. The raps on Meiso are detracting, even if they are better than the typical gangster posturing. But that's what programmable CD-players are for. >Two albums that made a big impact on me, which you should check out if you >aren't familiar with these, are: > >Public Enemy, "Fear of a Black Planet" - still gives me some of the biggest >goosebumps of any album I've ever listened to. The rhythm tracks a >masterpieces. > Agreed, this record is a masterpiece, and an example of an entire approach to music that was almost litigated out of existance. This was one of the last great records made before all samples had to be cleared with the original artists, another great example of this style is the Beastie Boys 2nd record, "Paul's Boutique", produced by the Dust Brothers. I read somewhere that there was on the order of 2000 samples form vinyl on "Fear of a Black Planet", and having to clear all them would have been impossible. It's too bad, none of Public Enemy's or The Bomb Squad (PE's producers) work since then have the density and complexity of Black Planet. I don't want to start a debate about copyright issues, but I think that it's a shame that the Bomb Squad's or the Dust Brothers' work, which actively recontextualizes the samples they use, had to be held to the same legal standard as that of lesser producers. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel, NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: improv@peak.org self promotional web-site: http://www.peak.org/~improv/ "A squid eating dough in a polyethelene bag is fast and bulbous, got me?" -Captain Beefheart ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 14:32:14 MST From: "Bret Moreland" To: Subject: re:Greg's help Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I too want to thank Greg. Last week I contacted him via Email to get a manual for my Jamman. I received it yesterday! How refreshing it is to get such prompt response. I could contrast this with my 3 months of communications with another looper vendor that promised to send me some parts/documents, but I won't :-) Were it not for the help and encouragement from Kim and Matthias I might have given up on my other looper by now (so frustrating seemed the problems, and the void of customer support from the maufacturer). Well, it is hard to ignore the powerful features it has. regards, bret ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 23:49:51 +0100 From: kbp@imaginet.fr To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Anti-MIDI looping Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Looping People I want to go into looping music. The 'Plex is a desirable machine (and I've an old Echoplex from the 60's), but I fear the MIDI headache. I hate MIDI. All my gear is pre-midi, I'm still using CV/gate, triggers, 24p clocks and FSK code. I'm looking for a simple and solid machine. I own a PCM41 of which the delay is too short for true loops. An interesting article in the Loopers-Delight pages mention a modification of the Lexicon PCM42 which make it able to sync with a 24p clocks. I you know more about, e-mail me. Merci (Pierre Cazenave) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:04:23 -0800 From: James Reynolds To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Pedal Needed Message-Id: <199701270004.QAA28182@dsp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>A friend is wanting to buy an Echoplex from Washington Music Center, but in >>the past month they have been unable to produce the pedal to go with it. >>They say it is on back order. Is this generally a production issue? Any >>suggestions where he might find both? Or just the pedal? > >Make your own. Its really simple and for a lower price you can do it >better, and according to your taste and needs, easily. > >Kim gave a lot of explanations on the site, if its not enough, keep asking. > if anyone else is planning on or has actually made a pedal, i'm planning on making a combo floor pedal for my jamperson and vortex (my plex pedal works fine but the lexicon pedals are flimsy). i'm trying to track down some solid, reasonably priced, industrial momentary pushbutton switches to use in the thing. since they need to be used for tapping tempos and such, the action can't be too stiff. if anyone has had any success in this endeavor or can offer recommendations, let me know! thanks james ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 18:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: lowfrqcy@west.net (mulB nayR) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (kinda) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Everyone! Just thought I'd come out of the deep deep shadows to let everyone know that Musician's Friend, who happen to have a ton of JamMen in stock, will match the price of any other, including the $199.97 Guitar Center price....quite neat, i think. Anyway, maybe i'll throw my intro out soon, but thanks everyone for the tons of great posts that made me decide to move up from my 2 sec. DD-5 to the Jamman! Seeya- Ryan, [a stick looper] ---- Ryan Blum "...to play 'Giant Steps' because you can seems lowfrqcy@west.net rediculous to me. I went through that, but ironwood stick #918 I was 14 years old." - John Medeski www.west.net/~lowfrqcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 02:35:11 -0600 From: John Pollock To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: If ya liked them records.... Message-id: <32EC68BF.673E@delphi.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Michael Peters wrote: > yes, please do, but I think the page for "essential loop recordings" should > only contain recordings which actually use loops or loopy repetitions. I'd also ask that you distinguish between "instrumental" and "vocal" recordings, to the extent that this is possible. I love this thread-- as one very new to the entire concept, I really appreciate some guideposts. :-) John Pollock mailto:johnpollock@delphi.com http://people.delphi.com/johnpollock (Troubador Tech) ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jan 97 03:28:42 EST From: Teed Rockwell <74164.3703@CompuServe.COM> To: JUANITA C ROCKWELL <74721.1606@CompuServe.COM>, Bob Rockwell , LARRY E ROCKWELL <73642.403@CompuServe.COM>, Ted Rockwell , Angela Cescati , "INTERNET:LSTuttle@aol.com" , Joe Conti , Donn Bree , Nathen Aswell <70702.2552@CompuServe.COM>, "INTERNET:Harpnhorse@aol.com" , Olivier Malhomme , Betty Martin-Finneran , Frank Paul , "\"David G. Stork\"" , Bill Unger <76612.2262@CompuServe.COM>, Kyle Wohlmut , Kim Flint , Guven Guzeldere , Greg Howard , "INTERNET:FrankJ6524@aol.com" , Stickwire , Mark Warr , "INTERNET:cttart@ucdavis.edu" , "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Website UP Message-ID: <970127082841_74164.3703_GHQ46-4@CompuServe.COM> Dear Friends and Family, This is to let you know that I now have a website, with pictures, downloadable Chapman stick music,(A solo piece in which I use the Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro in some innovative ways), essays on the aesthetics of multicultural music, and lots of other good stuff. If you want to see it, go to: www.traktor.com/presents/teed/ reactions and comments would be appreciated. Love to you all. Teed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:22:47 GMT From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Creativity and Technique Message-Id: <9625.199701271222@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Paolo: > I partially disagree. What shifts one's art away from expression is > _not_ "too much technique". It is the over-reliance on habits. Playing > the blues box is a habit for some players. Playing a favorite > 3-octave harmonic minor scale pattern is a habit for others. Playing > a favorite diminished arpeggio up and down the fretboard is a habit > for yet others. And so on. > A major component of self-expression is being in control over one's > habits rather than being controlled by them. ....I agree. I try to practise other people's music at the moment, on the pricniple of Adrian Belew's "You tend to improvise what you practise". Until recently I assumed that learning other people's stuff would "dilute my inner voice" whereas what actually happenned was that my limited vocabulary became dull and in-bred. Now I try to cast my net wide, being selective about what I learn - after all, it's going to show up in my playing - to ensure that if I start playing from memory (ie learnt licks, or habits) I have such a wide variety of licks that I don't repeat myself too often. Michael Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg, Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979 University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K. "Wha's like us? Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:34:00 GMT From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: getting into "the zone" Message-Id: <9866.199701271234@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Matthias: >For my sound, reverb is important, too. >Thats why they made the churches high in the middle age. Or do we react on >reverb because generations of monks sang in it and related the sound to... I have listened to Matthias' tape - he's not joking!!! As for looping to be to cerebral to get into "the zone", I don't think so. When I get into that frame of mind I stop thinking anyway. Michael Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg, Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979 University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K. "Wha's like us? Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jan 97 07:55:36 EST From: Jon Durant <74074.1316@CompuServe.COM> To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: re:Greg's help Message-ID: <970127125535_74074.1316_GHQ38-1@CompuServe.COM> Hi gang, Just getting back from Europe and finding a huge number of postings in the last week and change. Mostly very cool goings on. But I'd like to specifically comment on Mr. Hogan. He is one of the great natural resources available to Lexicon. He is knowledgeable, thorough, and a complete professional. I suspect that his additions to this list are his own doings, and not as a result of "policy" at Lexicon. After all (at least last I heard) Lexicon doesn't have a policy regarding the internet. Or, more pointedly, has a policy of denial that it is a useful and practical tool. On a personal note: Hi Greg. Hope yer well. Maybe someday I'll get out to the new office... Jon Durant ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:01:41 GMT From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: creative isolation Message-Id: <10482.199701271301@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Matthias: >I was not looking for tabula rasa either. The blues licks did not disapear, >but started to sound different in the new surrounding. I love it when I start to hear out-of-context licks appear in my playing, like putting renaissamce recorder peices over blues. >I changed a lot in the portugese ambient. On the slightly different subject of Brazillian Ambient music, Dr. Eduardo Miranda played ("diffused") here a couple of months ago. I didn't really connect to the music though - there was nothing to get hold of, just random-sounding noises. >I started to understand things >german speaking people are not aware off. Usually there is no word in >german for those things. Now, I do not know whether there is no word >because they were not interested or whether people have not been able to >become aware of a "thing" (rather emotions, concepts...) because there was >no name for it. It's often said that language is the philosophy of the people who speak it (or so I'm told). My wife, a linguist, often talks to me of this. Michael Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg, Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979 University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K. "Wha's like us? Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 05:27:21 -0800 (PST) From: Stew Benedict To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: exact jamman memory specs? Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have the exact spec (generic part number - whatever) for the Jamman "zip" memory? I'm struggling with whether to buy a deep-discounted model or hold ou for the 'plex, and the price of the memory will be a factor. I've found some 1x4-60ns Zip for $10 at www.visionsoft.com, Thanks! Stew Benedict ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:52:00 -0500 From: "Hogan, Greg" To: Loopers-Delight , spoticha Subject: Re: slider & pedal for a vortex Message-Id: <9701271402.AA09229@beryllium.lexicon.com> spoticha asked: "greg - How do I use the EV-5 to move between AB to slide/morph? I heard that I can morph between A and B effects but stop along the way - How do I achieve this and can i freeze and store into a register?" Turn the parameter knob to Morph A/B and press the pedal/tap button so that the green LED goes on. The pedal will know allow you to manually control the morph. Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I can do for you. Best regards, Greg Hogan Lexicon Customer Service Phone 617-280-0372 FAX 617-280-0499 email:ghogan@lexicon.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:18:00 -0500 From: "Hogan, Greg" To: Loopers-Delight Subject: RE: Greg's help Message-Id: <9701271429.AA09303@beryllium.lexicon.com> Matthias stated:" I really appreciate your extended answeres and kind posts, Greg! For products that are out of production, or rather an abandoned product line, I find Lexicons position remarkable, or do you do it out of a personal interest?" Matthias Thanks for the kind comments, Matthias. I take great pride in Lexicons products and our history. You will notice that all of my postings are during business hours Eastern Standard Time. Our official policy is that products are supported for at least five years after they were last shipped from our factory. We will always try to be as helpful as possible to anyone who owns any of our products as it's only common sense that if you satisfy your past customers they will remain to be future customers. I try to respond in as timely manner as possible and I find it personally embarrassing that people are actually surprised when a phone call is returned. Best regards, Greg Hogan Lexicon Customer Service Phone 617-280-0372 FAX 617-280-0499 email: ghogan@lexicon.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:37:19 -0500 (EST) From: Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Phd) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Greg's help Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Do you expect Lex to support the Jamman that way now ... will you still be carrying the pedals for awhile? paul At 9:18 AM 1/27/97, Hogan, Greg wrote: >Matthias stated:" >I really appreciate your extended answeres and kind posts, Greg! > >For products that are out of production, or rather an abandoned product >line, I find Lexicons position remarkable, or do you do it out of a >personal interest?" > >Matthias > >Thanks for the kind comments, Matthias. I take great pride in Lexicons >products and our history. You will notice that all of my postings are >during business hours Eastern Standard Time. Our official policy is that >products are supported for at least five years after they were last shipped >from our factory. We will always try to be as helpful as possible to anyone >who owns any of our products as it's only common sense that if you satisfy >your past customers they will remain to be future customers. I try to >respond in as timely manner as possible and I find it personally >embarrassing that people are actually surprised when a phone call is >returned. > >Best regards, > >Greg Hogan >Lexicon Customer Service >Phone 617-280-0372 >FAX 617-280-0499 >email: ghogan@lexicon.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:32:00 -0500 From: "Hogan, Greg" To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: If ya liked them records.... Message-Id: <9701271443.AA09361@beryllium.lexicon.com> Kim stated: "Pat Kirtley is a Taylor clinician and the 1995 figerstyle champion, not to mention an avid looper. He wastelling me all about Les Paul's early contributions to delay devices and Chet Atkins current forays into looping." One of Chet Atkins current records is titled "Almost Alone" in which he has a track titled "JAMMAN" which was written with and played on a Lexicon JAMMAN. Mr. Atkins actually called me and asked permission to use the title. I did not have that heart to tell him that he did not need our permission and told him that we would be honored! Greg Lexicon Service ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:19:00 -0500 From: "Hogan, Greg" To: Loopers-Delight Subject: RE: Greg's help Message-Id: <9701271530.AA09593@beryllium.lexicon.com> paul asked:" Do you expect Lex to support the Jamman that way now ... will you still be carrying the pedals for awhile?" regarding: At 9:18 AM 1/27/97, Hogan, Greg wrote: >Matthias stated:" >I really appreciate your extended answeres and kind posts, Greg! > >For products that are out of production, or rather an abandoned product >line, I find Lexicons position remarkable, or do you do it out of a >personal interest?" > >Matthias > >Thanks for the kind comments, Matthias. I take great pride in Lexicons >products and our history. You will notice that all of my postings are >during business hours Eastern Standard Time. Our official policy is that >products are supported for at least five years after they were last shipped >from our factory. We will always try to be as helpful as possible to anyone >who owns any of our products as it's only common sense that if you satisfy >your past customers they will remain to be future customers. I try to >respond in as timely manner as possible and I find it personally >embarrassing that people are actually surprised when a phone call is >returned. > >Best regards, > >Greg Hogan >Lexicon Customer Service >Phone 617-280-0372 >FAX 617-280-0499 >email: ghogan@lexicon.com The answer is Yes. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:22:07 -0500 From: nyfac To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (kinda) Message-ID: <32EE27AF.41C6@nyfac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > match the price of any other, including the $199.97 Guitar Center > price....quite neat, i think. Hey, is that a published price? I called musician's friend and they said they were going for $350.00 and said that they needed a fax of GC published price. Anyone have the ad? Thanks, Trevor PS- they have twenty left! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:31:02 -0500 From: nyfac To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (kinda) Message-ID: <32EE29C6.2781@nyfac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oh yes- my fax number is 212.760.4009 thanks, trevor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:50:53 -0500 (EST) From: MiqSk8@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (kinda) Message-ID: <970127114402_2091742343@emout03.mail.aol.com> include me in the faxing if you could! mike 209 788-6131 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 12:07:33 EST From: angel@matisse.pet.upenn.edu (Emmanuel Angel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Musicians Friend $199 JamMan (kinda) Message-Id: <9701271707.AA26579@matisse.pet.upenn.edu.noname> I'd like a fax too, for $199 price of Jamman ... FAX: (215) 573-3880 Thanks, ____________________________________________________________________________ Emmanuel Angel Nuclear Medicine Physics and Instrumentation Group University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 19104 (215) 662-7214 (voice) angel@matisse.pet.upenn.edu --------------------------------