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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 179

Today's Topics:
  Re: ring mod signals & Re: marimba,   [ "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net> ]
  RE: ring mod signals & Re: marimba,   [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]
  Re: ring mod signals & Re: marimba,   [ "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com> ]
  Re: Vortex for sale                   [ Adam Levin <alevin@ari.net> ]
  Re: Breath controller?                [ "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.c ]
  Re: ring mod signals & Re: marimba,   [ Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net> ]
  Re: It could be a new looping device  [ Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net> ]
  Electro-Harmonix Delay 16             [ "G. Peterson" <rainham@connection.c ]
  Re: It could be a new looping device  [ "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.c ]
  Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16         [ "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@eart ]
  Re: Breath controller?                [ Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@wayneswo ]
  Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16         [ "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@eart ]
  Re: It could be a new looping device  [ "Joseph Buck" <josephbuck@hotmail.c ]
  Re[2]: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16      [ miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT) ]
  Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16         [ "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.c ]
  metal footcontroller enclosures       [ "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com> ]
  Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16         [ "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com> ]
  Re: Breath controller?                [ "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.c ]
  Re: metal footcontroller enclosures   [ Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net> ]
  Re: metal footcontroller enclosures   [ Tom Spaulding <tspauldi@gibson.com> ]
  Re: Breath controller?                [ Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@wayneswo ]
  Re: metal footcontroller enclosures   [ "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com> ]
  Mouser                                [ "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com> ]
  Re: metal footcontroller enclosures   [ John Neilson <jneil@echonyc.com> ]

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:15:00 -0700
From: "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: ring mod signals & Re: marimba, kalimba, steel drum sounds
Message-Id: <199710241516.LAA22933@mail.colba.net>
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> Since english is not my native language, would someone be kind and
explain
> to me what an alligator clip is?

They are the small clips which have teeth.  They resemble an alligator's
head, hence the name.
 
> 
> Also, I finally got ahold of a decent ring modulator w/ a multiplier chip
> in it. It has two inputs (no internal oscillator on this unit), so I was
> wondering if any of you guitarists out there have any ideas for signals
to
> modulate my guitars with...

First, you will need a sine wave generator.  I would suggest you get a good
solid-state oscillator from a surplus dealer or use an analogue synth with
the
filter resonance turned all the way into self-oscillation as your carrier.
Avoid tube oscillators. They sound very nice, but their sine waves are not
always perfect and the 48V output could fry your other equipment.
Be sure to check the out levels on the solid state oscillator as well.
These things usually don't cost much.

You may also experiment with other waveshapes as carriers, but since
you are using a guitar which is rich in harmonic content, I imagine you'll
get
better results with a pure sine wave.

You may also exceed audible range with most stand-alone generators, and I'm

seriously suggesting you try this out.  Since this signal is acting as a
modulation
source, it need not be audible in frequency range to act on your guitar
sound.

I also suggest you try putting an EQ between your guitar and the ring mod;
this
will give you more control over which harmonics are affected.


Hoping this helps a little,

D 4 V 1 D    K R 1 5 T 1 4 N
 
"Echo is Instant Nostalgia"

  jndk@colba.net

  http://www.total.net/~alien8/Kristian.html

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:20:55 -0400
From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)
To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: ring mod signals & Re: marimba, kalimba, steel drum sounds
Message-ID: <01BCE06E.F904D880@mark.asisoftware.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

You may want to try plugging a drum machine or a tape recorder's output into your ring modulator.  I like using a recording of someone talking as an input into my ring modulator.

Mark Kata
Mark@asisoftware.com

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From: 	Erik Ljones[SMTP:eriklj@stud.ntnu.no]
Sent: 	Friday, October 24, 1997 11:23 AM
To: 	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: 	ring mod signals & Re: marimba, kalimba, steel drum sounds

Matt wrote:
>Try putting tiny alligator clips on your strings at various positions.  You
>can get some weird ringy/gongish/percussive sounds depending on where you
>place the clips.  I purchased a pack of 12 clips at Radio Shack for less
>than 4 bucks.  They come in different sizes but I went with the smallest.

Since english is not my native language, would someone be kind and explain
to me what an alligator clip is? Is Radio Shack some kind of an electronics
dealer...I was wondering where in Norway I should go to look for something
like this. 

Also, I finally got ahold of a decent ring modulator w/ a multiplier chip
in it. It has two inputs (no internal oscillator on this unit), so I was
wondering if any of you guitarists out there have any ideas for signals to
modulate my guitars with...I'm into the concept of creating new and
interesting sounds with a guitar, so anything unusual is especially of
interest. 
As for the not so drastic use of a ring mod, I probably should get an
oscillator that can generate all the simple waveforms. Where & how can I
get something like this without having to spend all my money? Any advice
and/or suggestions on this would be deeply appreciated. Thanks

Erik Ljones  

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:31:38 -0700
From: "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: ring mod signals & Re: marimba, kalimba, steel drum sounds
Message-Id: <199710241526.IAA15488@gw1.bi-tech.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> From: Erik Ljones <eriklj@stud.ntnu.no>

> Since english is not my native language, would someone be kind and
explain
> to me what an alligator clip is? Is Radio Shack some kind of an
electronics
> dealer...I was wondering where in Norway I should go to look for
something
> like this. 

They are jaw-like clips used for making temporary connections on circuit
boards and the like.  Radio Shack is basically an electronics supply store
-- known mainly among musicians for having every kind of adapter known to
man (and woman).

Hope that helps!!!

Matt

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:32:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Adam Levin <alevin@ari.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vortex for sale
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.971024113104.13343B-100000@ari.ari.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 24 Oct 1997 PJBMHB@aol.com wrote:

> i have seen spanking new vorteces for less than this on sale. you might want
> to come down a bit in price. sorry, =-) PJ

This begs the one word question: "Where?"

-Adam

---
       "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue,
       out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one 
                           becomes a Hearer."
                           - Chandrakirti

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 10:24:56 -0000
From: "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Breath controller?
Message-Id: <199710241521.IAA29100@scv4.apple.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>I use a Yamaha BC-1 breath controller plugged into an Anatek "Wind
>Machine". This unit converts the output from the breath controller into
>a midi control message that then can then be fed to any of my midi
>intelligent rack goodies. Having the ability to route this modulation
>source to any parameter destination has really increased my weirdness.
>Try it !!!!   

Is this the old "sax synthesizer" controller that Yamaha marketed in the 
late '80s? 

Travis

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:43:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: ring mod signals & Re: marimba, kalimba, steel drum sounds
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971024093923.29494B-100000@icarus.icarus.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Erik Ljones wrote:

> Matt wrote:
> >Try putting tiny alligator clips on your strings at various positions.  You
> >can get some weird ringy/gongish/percussive sounds depending on where you
> >place the clips.  I purchased a pack of 12 clips at Radio Shack for less
> >than 4 bucks.  They come in different sizes but I went with the smallest.
> 
> Since english is not my native language, would someone be kind and explain
> to me what an alligator clip is? Is Radio Shack some kind of an electronics
> dealer...I was wondering where in Norway I should go to look for something
> like this. 

"Alligator clips" are small devices for holding electronic parts and other
small things.  Do you know what a clothespin is?  The things you use to
hang wet clothes up to dry?  It's like one of those, only smaller and
metal.  It has a number of teeth for a gripping surface and a strong
spring.  You can get them at any store that sells electronic parts.  They
are used for making test equipment and stuff.
 
> Also, I finally got ahold of a decent ring modulator w/ a multiplier chip
> in it. It has two inputs (no internal oscillator on this unit), so I was
> wondering if any of you guitarists out there have any ideas for signals to
> modulate my guitars with...I'm into the concept of creating new and
> interesting sounds with a guitar, so anything unusual is especially of
> interest. 
> As for the not so drastic use of a ring mod, I probably should get an
> oscillator that can generate all the simple waveforms. Where & how can I
> get something like this without having to spend all my money? Any advice
> and/or suggestions on this would be deeply appreciated. Thanks

How about an old analog synthesizer? 

-dave

By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete.
Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. 
Venus De Milo.
To a child she is ugly.       /* dstagner@icarus.net */
   -Charles Fort              

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:02:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>
To: "'Loopers-Delight'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: It could be a new looping device.
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971024105622.29933A-100000@icarus.icarus.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Y'know, i'm not all that concerned about getting devices that sound "out
there".  What I'd like are effects that sound GOOD!  Not good as in
"cool", but good as in doesn't trash the dynamics and detail of the
original sound.  

Most effects boxes are guilty of this... Lexicon stuff is pretty good, but
ART, Digitech, etc all sound dry and sterile to me.  The best sounding
digital effect I have is a DeltaLabs Echotron.  I'm sure that on a bench
test it sucks, but it's very sweet and warm-sounding in practice.

How about this for an idea... build some genuine PCM digital delays, with
knob-based interfaces?  Forget MIDI and off-the-shelf A/D and D/A
converters... that's what kills the music.  I would love to see a device
like the old EH 16 second delay, with an oscillator, reverse, etc, or
something that sounds like the old DeltaLabs delays.  Good SONICS has
virtually nothing to do with good measurements.

-dave

By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete.
Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. 
Venus De Milo.
To a child she is ugly.       /* dstagner@icarus.net */
   -Charles Fort              

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:55:21 -0400
From: "G. Peterson" <rainham@connection.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
message-id: TCPSMTP_GEN.12274.7380@204.138.111.21
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi all, I have a question and a request that has been on my mind for quite
some time.
Now that electro-harmonix has resurfaced (new sensor ltd.), and reissued
the Q-tron, I am wondering if they have any plans in the works to do the
same with the much coveted Delay 16?
The #800 posted on their web page is not functional in Canada, and I was
wondering if one of you State side listers might give them a call and find
this info out.
The number for customer service is #800 633 5477

Many thanks in advance,

Gordon

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 12:15:36 -0000
From: "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: It could be a new looping device.
Message-Id: <199710241711.KAA40698@scv1.apple.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>I'm in the process of establishing a company with a product line of "out
>there" musical effects and accessories. What I refer to as "out there"
>is anything that is wild, bizarre or in some way new and/or different
>that other products on the market.
>Therefore I would ask all of you "out there" people to tell me what you
>would like. Everything from small ideas to complete product descriptions
>will be appreciated.

What I'd like to see is a breath controller that would send MIDI CV 
information.  I'm not talking about something shaped like a sax or a 
clarinet that lets me use woodwind technique to control a synthesizer, 
but rather a mouthpiece I can blow into while I'm playing guitar.  This 
hypothetical controller could be connected to any CV input, and be used 
to control anything (volume, modulation, vibrato, whatever) that a normal 
CV pedal controls.  Controls for sensitivity, max and minimum levels 
would be nice.

Travis Hartnett

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:25:09 -0700
From: "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@earthlight.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
Message-Id: <199710241828.LAA25552@smtp04.primenet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
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'New Sensor Ltd' is actually listed as http://www.sovtek.com by the way.

Stephen Goodman           * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios
EarthLight Productions     * Get the Loop Of The Week Free!

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:16:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Breath controller?
Message-Id: <199710241816.LAA01728@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> >I use a Yamaha BC-1 breath controller plugged into an Anatek "Wind
> >Machine". This unit converts the output from the breath controller into
> >a midi control message that then can then be fed to any of my midi
> >intelligent rack goodies. Having the ability to route this modulation
> >source to any parameter destination has really increased my weirdness.
> >Try it !!!!   
> 
> Is this the old "sax synthesizer" controller that Yamaha marketed in the 
> late '80s? 
> 
> Travis

No, the BC-1 is a mouthpiece that translates either your lip pressure
or how hard you blow (not sure which, but I think it is the latter)
into MIDI Breath Controller information.  The Anatek box, I believe,
lets you remap the data coming from the BC-1 into just about any other
type of MIDI realtime controller type: MIDI Volume, MIDI Pitchbend, etc.
It has a switch that lets you select which controller information 
you like.

 
Paolo Valladolid
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:03:58 -0700
From: "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@earthlight.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
Message-Id: <199710241807.LAA24773@smtp04.primenet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
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G. Peterson <rainham@connection.com> asked:

> Now that electro-harmonix has resurfaced (new sensor ltd.), and reissued
> the Q-tron, I am wondering if they have any plans in the works to do the
> same with the much coveted Delay 16?

I've called them, and they say "next year" they will be producing a new
Delay 16 pedal.

Stephen Goodman           * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios
EarthLight Productions     * Get the Loop Of The Week Free!

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:46:40 PDT
From: "Joseph Buck" <josephbuck@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: It could be a new looping device.
Message-ID: <19971024164648.6535.qmail@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Dave said:

>I would love to see a device
>like the old EH 16 second delay, with an oscillator, reverse, etc, or
>something that sounds like the old DeltaLabs delays.  Good SONICS has
>virtually nothing to do with good measurements.

I was told by one of the guys at Sovtek that the reissue 16 second delay 
is going to be one of their *priority* releases within the next year.

Ah a boy can dream.


Salam,

Buck

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:04:05 +0400
From: miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT)
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> 
Subject: Re[2]: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
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     Does anybody have an idea on how to contact Mike Matthews (the father 
     of Electro Harmonix)? I think i would be a good idea to interview him 
     about the EH 16 seconds digital delay and include it in the Looper's 
     page.
     
     
     Miguel


___________________________ Separador de Resposta ______________________________
Assunto: Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
Autor:  "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@earthlight.net> na internet
Data:    24/10/1997 11:03


G. Peterson <rainham@connection.com> asked:
     
> Now that electro-harmonix has resurfaced (new sensor ltd.), and reissued 
> the Q-tron, I am wondering if they have any plans in the works to do the 
> same with the much coveted Delay 16?
     
I've called them, and they say "next year" they will be producing a new 
Delay 16 pedal.
     
Stephen Goodman           * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios 
EarthLight Productions     * Get the Loop Of The Week Free!
     

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 14:20:34 -0000
From: "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
Message-Id: <199710241916.MAA37910@scv3.apple.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>
>Hi all, I have a question and a request that has been on my mind for quite
>some time.
>Now that electro-harmonix has resurfaced (new sensor ltd.), and reissued
>the Q-tron, I am wondering if they have any plans in the works to do the
>same with the much coveted Delay 16?
>The #800 posted on their web page is not functional in Canada, and I was
>wondering if one of you State side listers might give them a call and find
>this info out.
>The number for customer service is #800 633 5477

I just gave them a call at that number, and they said that yes, they are 
planning to bring back the 16-second delay, but it'll probably be about 
12 months before we see it.  Yee Haw.

Travis Hartnett

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:16:40 -0700
From: "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com>
To: "Loop" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: metal footcontroller enclosures
Message-Id: <199710242011.NAA23980@gw1.bi-tech.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Does anyone know where I could find metal enclosures suitable for
footcontrollers?  I'm not interested in the stompbox size....I need
something a little bigger.  I'm thinking about replacing my 2 cheesy
Lexicon footswitches (Vortex/JamMan) with one beefy custom footcontroller
wired for both machines...and a few other switching functions.  Any ideas? 
Thanks!

-----------------------------
Matt McCabe
Sales/Marketing Support

SunGard Bi-Tech Systems Inc.
890 Fortress Street
Chico, CA  95973
916.899.4348
http://www.bi-tech.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:18:18 -0700
From: "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
Message-Id: <199710242013.NAA24031@gw1.bi-tech.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> From: T.W. Hartnett <hartnett.t@apple.com>

> I just gave them a call at that number, and they said that yes, they are 
> planning to bring back the 16-second delay, but it'll probably be about 
> 12 months before we see it.  Yee Haw.

Did they give any indication as to how much they will cost?  Are they going
to incorporate any new features such as MIDI control, more memory, etc? 

Matt

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 15:42:18 -0000
From: "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Breath controller?
Message-Id: <199710242038.NAA24070@scv4.apple.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>> >I use a Yamaha BC-1 breath controller plugged into an Anatek "Wind
>> >Machine". This unit converts the output from the breath controller into
>> >a midi control message that then can then be fed to any of my midi
>> >intelligent rack goodies. Having the ability to route this modulation
>> >source to any parameter destination has really increased my weirdness.
>> >Try it !!!!   
>> 
>> Is this the old "sax synthesizer" controller that Yamaha marketed in the 
>> late '80s? 
>> 
>> Travis
>
>No, the BC-1 is a mouthpiece that translates either your lip pressure
>or how hard you blow (not sure which, but I think it is the latter)
>into MIDI Breath Controller information.  The Anatek box, I believe,
>lets you remap the data coming from the BC-1 into just about any other
>type of MIDI realtime controller type: MIDI Volume, MIDI Pitchbend, etc.
>It has a switch that lets you select which controller information 
>you like.

Great!  Unfortunately, it appears to be out of production.   The more I 
think about it, the more I want something that'll do this.  Volume/CV 
pedals are great, but...

Travis

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:49:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>
To: Loop <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: metal footcontroller enclosures
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971024154734.31195A-100000@icarus.icarus.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Matt McCabe wrote:

> Does anyone know where I could find metal enclosures suitable for
> footcontrollers?  I'm not interested in the stompbox size....I need
> something a little bigger.  I'm thinking about replacing my 2 cheesy
> Lexicon footswitches (Vortex/JamMan) with one beefy custom footcontroller
> wired for both machines...and a few other switching functions.  Any ideas? 
> Thanks!

Angled-front aluminum boxes are available from Mouser, Digikey, and other
electronics supply shops.  A much harder problem is finding robust
momentary footswitches that can take stage abuse.

-dave

By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete.
Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. 
Venus De Milo.
To a child she is ugly.       /* dstagner@icarus.net */
   -Charles Fort              

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:17:57 -0500
From: Tom Spaulding <tspauldi@gibson.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: metal footcontroller enclosures
Message-Id: <97Oct24.162042cdt.26884@gateway.gibson.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Try the Mouser momentary footswitches like we use in the Echoplex
footswitch. They work for us, and I believe ADA uses them too.

Tom


At 03:49 PM 10/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Matt McCabe wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know where I could find metal enclosures suitable for
>> footcontrollers?  I'm not interested in the stompbox size....I need
>> something a little bigger.  I'm thinking about replacing my 2 cheesy
>> Lexicon footswitches (Vortex/JamMan) with one beefy custom footcontroller
>> wired for both machines...and a few other switching functions.  Any ideas? 
>> Thanks!
>
>Angled-front aluminum boxes are available from Mouser, Digikey, and other
>electronics supply shops.  A much harder problem is finding robust
>momentary footswitches that can take stage abuse.
>
>-dave
>
>By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete.
>Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. 
>Venus De Milo.
>To a child she is ugly.       /* dstagner@icarus.net */
>   -Charles Fort              
>
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:19:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Breath controller?
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> >No, the BC-1 is a mouthpiece that translates either your lip pressure
> >or how hard you blow (not sure which, but I think it is the latter)
> >into MIDI Breath Controller information.  The Anatek box, I believe,
> >lets you remap the data coming from the BC-1 into just about any other
> >type of MIDI realtime controller type: MIDI Volume, MIDI Pitchbend, etc.
> >It has a switch that lets you select which controller information 
> >you like.
> 
> Great!  Unfortunately, it appears to be out of production.   The more I 
> think about it, the more I want something that'll do this.  Volume/CV 
> pedals are great, but...
> 
> Travis

I think Yamaha is still producing a breath controller in some shape or
form if not a BC-1 model.  They have to if they still have the VL-70
physical modeling synth in production.

Dunno about Anatek, though... Perhaps you can try contacting Harvey
Starr?  He produces MIDI controllers that have input ports for a Yamaha
breath controller.  Perhaps he can custom build a box for you that just
does the MIDI mapping functionality.  

The URL is http://catalog.com/starrlab/

 
Paolo Valladolid
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:18:46 -0700
From: "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: metal footcontroller enclosures
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> From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>

> Angled-front aluminum boxes are available from Mouser, Digikey, and other
> electronics supply shops.  A much harder problem is finding robust
> momentary footswitches that can take stage abuse.

Great!  Unfortunately, I've never heard of those stores.  I'm in
California.  You don't happen to have their numbers handy do you?

Matt

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:39:40 -0700
From: "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com>
To: "Loop" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Mouser
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Never mind my last question.  I found their web
site....http://www.mouser.com.  Thanks!

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Matt McCabe
Sales/Marketing Support

SunGard Bi-Tech Systems Inc.
890 Fortress Street
Chico, CA  95973
916.899.4348
http://www.bi-tech.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:24:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Neilson <jneil@echonyc.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: metal footcontroller enclosures
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> 
> Does anyone know where I could find metal enclosures suitable for
> footcontrollers?  I'm not interested in the stompbox size....I need
> something a little bigger.  I'm thinking about replacing my 2 cheesy
> Lexicon footswitches (Vortex/JamMan) with one beefy custom footcontroller
> wired for both machines...and a few other switching functions.  Any ideas? 
> Thanks!
> 

Those JamMan footswitches are awful.  I immediately replaced mine with a
pair of Korg pedals that do the trick just fine.  They're red, flat, and
each comes with 2 switches, so two of these with a pair of insert cables 
will fix you up in no time.  

I can look up the part number when I get home if you'd like.  On the other 
hand, maybe you'd rather build boxes...

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John Neilson                                             www.mixup.com 
jneil@mixup.com                                  "a site for sore ears"

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