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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 181

Today's Topics:
  10 questions                          [ bryan.helm@dinosaur.com ]
  10q part2                             [ bryan.helm@dinosaur.com ]
  jamman upgrade                        [ "nicomonguzzi" <nicomonguzzi@vtx.ch ]
  more on the DOD pedal                 [ "Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D." <pycraft ]
  What about an EH 64 sec loopin' devi  [ KenO3@aol.com ]
  Stereo JamMan Looping                 [ Phil Diem <pdiem@edcen.ehhs.cmich.e ]
  Jam Man wanted                        [ Mtdimin@aol.com ]
  Delay 16 Reply                        [ "G. Peterson" <rainham@connection.c ]
  RE: jamman upgrade                    [ "Sellon, Bob (Exchange)" <bsellon@l ]
  Re: Re: 2 questions                   [ Fmplautus@aol.com ]
  Re[2]: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16      [ miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT) ]
  Re: Stereo JamMan Looping             [ "Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D." <pycraft ]
  Re: Stereo JamMan Looping             [ "Robert S. Carter" <rsc4@hhmi.upenn ]
  RE: jamman upgrade                    [ paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski,  ]
  Re: Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16     [ Fmplautus@aol.com ]
  Re: more on the DOD pedal             [ Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT> ]
  Boomerang Address                     [ "G. Peterson" <rainham@connection.c ]
  Re: more on the DOD pedal             [ Adam Levin <alevin@ari.net> ]
  Re: Boomerang Address                 [ "Mikell D. Nelson" <mnelson@dmans.c ]

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 09:45:25 -0700
From: bryan.helm@dinosaur.com
To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com
Subject: 10 questions
Message-ID: <9710270945.0DPG800@dinosaur.com>

Dear Loopers, 
                        In the pursuit of more information about looping
and loopers I put the following ten questions to Bill Forth, of the
band 10 Seconds, and he was kind enough to reply. I thought  I
would share what follows with you.

                                       ******************** 
 
>1. What do you recall as being your earliest exposure to music
>     that featured looping as part of the audio image?
 
 
The church my parent's took me to as a child was my favorite away-from-home
listening space. It was very ambient with a long, reverberant echo.  I
remember  the choir overlapping in and out in transition.  So, I think of
the repetitive figures of canons as signal loops of a sort, and this would
be my earliest point of reference.
 
 
>2. What was the first looping device that you had an opportunity
>     to use yourself and how was that experience?
 
My Dad had a Wollensak two-track tape machine, which I secretly
commandeered after school.  I read that you could make loops out of tape,
so I tried making loops with scotchtape and supporting the tension of the
tape with household objects like cans and a carpet sweeper.  I cut out a
big section of tape from a recording by the Hawaiian singer, Alfred Apaka,
then accidentally flipped it over, stuck it together, and trimmed it with
scissors.  With the tape spinning around the living room it was more fun
than a train set and it sounded hilarious, and my dog, Smokey, was howling
along with it.  Every time the splice came around it would make a loud pop
and he would bark.  I also learned how to control feedback with help from
my dog... I used to find a feedback tone with the whammy bar that would
make him howl, and wobble it around to keep him going as long as possible.
But, I digress... That is a tape loop, rather than a signal loop, and I
think that was the intent of your question, so:  the first time I made a
signal loop was with an Akai 2 track with sound-on-sound.  I still have the
machine, and it has a really great sound.  We had a short wave radio with a
headphone output, so I jammed a cord in that, plugged it in the Akai and
dialed in radio frequencies, all kinds of jabbering and that big buzzeroo
the Soviets used to broadcast to jam the Voice of America.  All this stuff
was the most fun a teenager could have on a rainy day.
>
 
 
>3. How many different types of loop processors have you had the
>    experience of working with and how would you view the relative
>    merits of the equipment versus your musical needs?
 
I'm a gearhead, but I can be a lot more charmed by a simple piece of gear I
can apply in a way it wasn't designed for, than by something high-end that
gives me too many options.  We live in amazing times in terms of the
technology we can access, but I find more and more that I prefer the
blurred edges of the analog world. For example, nothing compares to tube
amps! I have an expanded Boomerang which, down and dirty, is an outstanding
phrase sampler.  But, it also drops a decibel in signal level with each
overdub, and that disappoints me a little. The Lexicon Jam Man is very good
within it's limits, and having midi capacity is helpful, but I find the way
that the pedal-controls are mapped out illogical.  I've dabbled with TC
2290's and they are astonishing machines, but so complex, I'm not sure I
would make the investment. Sometimes it seems like the more a piece of gear
can do, the more I will get lost inside tweaking it, rather than just
producing something, so just now, I am trying to streamline the signal
path.  On the other hand, I'd love to get my hands on an Eventide H3000.
 
>
>4.  Do you listen to loop oriented work by other artists and if
>     so who do you listen to most often and why?
 
Not any more, but in the field of electronic music, the work of Iannis
Xenakis and Burt Goldstein have been inspirational; also Ligeti,
Stockhausen, Schnittke, Bartok, Berg, P=E4rt, all the key modern
texturalists.  Among prominent loopers, I like Carl Stone's work for his
cleverness, Eno's work for dimension and Robert Fripp's work for everything
I can't put into words.  I heard Robert work nightly on the first leg of
the G3 American tour, and he is dialing up incomparable atmospheres with
chromatic substitutions. He knows what he is going for harmonically, and at
the same time, he is discovering it as he goes along.  Most of the looping
I happen on is modal and repetitive, more rhythmic patterning than going
anywhere in a diatonic sense.  So, I find his work wonderfully challenging
by contrast, both technically and emotionally.
 
 
>5.  What are you currently using in the way of looping gear in a
>      live or studio format?
>
A 4 Megabyte Boomerang, a pair of Rocktron Intellifex units, stomp boxes,
guitars and tube amps, an old Akai two track machine, cassettes and DATs.
 
 
    Stay tuned for Part 2........
                                          B. Helm

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 09:45:30 -0700
From: bryan.helm@dinosaur.com
To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com
Subject: 10q part2
Message-ID: <9710270945.0DPJ200@dinosaur.com>

 Dear Loopers, 
                            Here is Part 2 of my 10 questions for Bill Forth.


PART 2:

>6.  What are your current musical pursuits and how would you
>      define the role of looping as it applies to them?
 
I am not interested in hearing anything that sounds like it came out of a
computer.  Ten Seconds experimented with combining slamming grooves and
ambient textures; I'd like to go further, in a darker vein.  I currently
use looping as both a composer's sketchpad and as a device for coming up
with textures with a guitar that wouldn't fall out of the sky otherwise.
I'm working more quickly these days, but I am also trying to consider the
notes.
 
The fun part of looping is that it's all about play.  I will often just
begin with a simple idea and try to squeeze some movement out of it, for
example, the following pandiatonioc sequence:
 
C / E / G / A
C / E / G / B
C / G / E / A / D
 
I'd might then play that in three octaves, then reverse the recording, then
play the same sequence of notes in reverse, reverse that recording, then
improvise further.  Or, turn it off.
 
 
>7.   What instrument would you most like to hear undergo a
>     "good looping", as it were?
 
I would most like to hear a clavier =E0 lumi=E8res.
 
 
 
>8.   Do you find looping to be a valuable pursuit in regards to
>      developing composition skills and playing technique?
>
It can be very helpful as a compositional sketchpad.  Regarding "playing
technique" ...looping may force you to play more carefully, since hearing a
mistake repeated ad infinitum can be especially painful.
 
 
>9.    What in particular appeals to you about looping and do
>        you find that appeal translates for other listeners and
>         players and why?
>
 
Does it translate?  Sometimes.  While a piece may become trance-inducing,
even transcendant, at other times, the same piece might bore the pants off
you.  I would suppose that the appeal of loopage will depend on the mood of
the listener, on the quality of effort the listener is willing to make, and
the quality of the performance.  I am certain that the  ear can absorb only
so much repetition stimulus and complexity; at some point one begins to
hear things that aren't there.  When the texture and patterning become
sufficiently complex, it becomes an aural field of projection... the
listener then attempts to organize the information that is, very often, all
too much.  The ear naturally makes it's own choices, and perhaps opens a
pathway in the brain one wouldn't get to otherwise.  That's when things
begin to get really interesting: if we are listening at that point, we may
possibly hear something real.
 
 
 
>10.   What question in relation to looping would you most like
>         to have asked of other loopers, and how would you
>          answer?
>
Who has the best price on DAT tape in L.A.?
 
 
 My thanks to Bill Forth for his time and thoughts.

                                                          Bryan Helm
                                                     Techno-primitive
                                                      Tantrum Boy 
 
 
                                                                            
  

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:53:51 +0100
From: "nicomonguzzi" <nicomonguzzi@vtx.ch>
To: Loopers Delight * Mail List <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: jamman upgrade
Message-Id: <l03102802b07a6892a2b6@[194.235.13.69]>
Content-Type: text/plain

hello, i've just sent this message to Bob Sellon (the JamMan Genius at
Lexicon) and i'm waiting for a reply.
if anyone has some news, please let me know.
ciao nicos


>Hello, i've read about a jamman upgrade in Loopers-Delight
>>http://www.annihilist.com.
>Do you have some news?
>Do you think it will be possible to send to switzerland (me and a couple
>of >jamfriends are in a very excited wait É)?
>It is true that Lexicon has produced and sell 8000 jamman ?
>
>Thanks
>(i hope my english is good enough to deserve a reply)
>
>With kind regards, nicolas monguzzi

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:54:08
From: "Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D." <pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: more on the DOD pedal
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19971027185408.29af85cc@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain

It costs £130 UK (probably $130, maybe less), 8 sec forward 4sec reverse
and hold, but no mention of a tap-tempo facility.  Now that _would_ be useful.

Michael

PS UK users, anyone wanna buy some JamMan RAM?  Since the recent confusion
over stereo JamMen not working, the "spare set" for my planned-for JM2 will
never be used.  Mail me if interested...

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:45:07 -0500 (EST)
From: KenO3@aol.com
To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com
Subject: What about an EH 64 sec loopin' device?
Message-ID: <971027124225_136393700@emout05.mail.aol.com>

Greetings,

Not trying to add fuel to the threads on the EH 16 second delay...but

Anyone happen to notice a picture of a Electro Harmonix 64 second delay,
rackmount device in a Summer issue of Guitar Shop (Eddie Van Halen cover)?
 The mag fearture article is an interview with Mike Mathews.  Savvy readers
will also note a picture of the Q-Tron envelope follower--shown prior to the
public disclosure.
What's up with that, eh?

Ken

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 15:02:39 -0000
From: Phil Diem <pdiem@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Stereo JamMan Looping
Message-Id: <m0xPuKx-000RYLC@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Michael P. Hughes wrote, in part:

>PS UK users, anyone wanna buy some JamMan RAM?  Since the recent confusion
>over stereo JamMen not working, the "spare set" for my planned-for JM2 will
>never be used.  Mail me if interested...

so, I thought an update on my previous Jammidimystery posts should be 
inserted here.

Don't sell that extra ram quite yet Michael, stereo looping w/2 jamthings 
IS possible - as I have recently discovered after much trial and 
tribulation. 

I finally got this to work *PERFECTLY* by replacing two pieces of support 
gear. I picked up a Digitech PMC 10 which replaced the DMC Ground 
Control. The PMC 10 has midi in with merge and filter to the midi out, so 
I now have an external clock (drum machine) out front with it's clock 
being merged with the program change commands from the PMC 10. I also 
replaced my rack mixer with one which includes a 4x8 midi patchbay 
(Tascam MM200). Now the clock and program change from the PMC 10 are sent 
to each jamman individually, in parallel, and it works perfectly w/jammen 
*in sync* and both jammen responding to program change messages  
simultaneously. When some drift is desirable, I just shut off the drum 
machine so that each jamman runs on its own clock. When the drum machine 
is undesirable I just mute its audio output but leave the clock running.

The drum machine in this set up could be replaced by a sequencer,or any 
other source of clock and the mixer/patchbay could simply be a midi thru 
box or a stand alone patchbay. Also, by leaving the Lexicon foot switches 
connected you can control the jamman individually while still maintaining 
sync between them (this can also be done simply by connecting midi out to 
midi in but you won't get the simultaneous/stereo looping option *on the 
fly* this way). 

Phil

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:01:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Mtdimin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Jam Man wanted
Message-ID: <971027135428_-1863572633@emout02.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-10-27 11:53:30 EST, you write:

willing to trade Cakewalk 6.0 new in box, sound blaster 32 for Jam Man. Or if
you want to donate it to a school (very worthwhile and tax deductable).
Please contact me at mtdimin@aol.com

Mike Dimin

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:00:27 -0500
From: "G. Peterson" <rainham@connection.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Delay 16 Reply
message-id: TCPSMTP_GEN.11362.2541@204.138.111.59
Content-Type: text/plain
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Well here it is, straight from the horses mouth as it were...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Thanks for your reply.  I am painfully aware of the current market value of
the 16 second, since I am a player/collector myself.  I also understand the
neccessity to keep the sonic qualities and user interface of the original.
I will say that although there are units which do what the 16second does,
none of them sound anywhere near as good as it does.  Also, to "remake" the
unit in the original manner would be foolish, considering the fact that the
technology used then and that used now are quite different.  I assure you
that the unit will sound as good or better than the original, be more
useful, and cost less.

Cheers,

Kevin Bolembach
New Sensor Corp.
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:29:30 -0500
From: "Sellon, Bob  (Exchange)" <bsellon@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE: jamman upgrade
Message-Id: <215C1D5A0FFDD011B3CC00805FC18C291500AD@NTSRV2.LEXICON.COM>
Content-Type: text/plain

Sorry it's taken me so long to report back on the JamMan upgrade but
unfortunately, things have not gone that well. Officially, the JamMan
deal with Lexicon fell through. Being an employee of Lexicon, they were
concerned about the destraction of starting a buisness on the side so
they kept putting me off and off and off. Finally, I decided that, even
if I was able to cut a deal, it would end up being a major pain in the
ass (I am a programmer and a musician, not a businessman/shipper and
recieiver). I want to spend my time programming and playing music not
accounting/shipping and receiving. It would just be too much of a hit on
my other activities. 

However,....all is not lost. I am a valued employee at Lexicon and they
seemed to have noticed my preoccupation with looping. Quite
unofficially, there are some low level rumblings of folding some of my
newer looping stuff into a not so distant future Lexicon product. I
can't go into the details but, they are listening to customer requests
and they do count the inquires on the Lexicon web page (lexicon.com). If
you want Lexicon to make looping products, YOU have to tell them. They
hear it from me and they think it's just this preoccupation of mine. 

Meanwhile, I am still working on software that will run on the JamMan
platform and have been authorized by Lexicon to use outside resources to
test conceptual ideas. Many people have inquired to me directly about
upgrading their JamMen. I will contact them each on a one to one basis
to go over the details. Anyone interested in this should contact me
directly at bsellon@lexicon.com. Make sure the word "JamMan" is in the
subject. 

Bob Sellon
Lexicon/Stec
Software Engineer
bsellon@lexicon.com

> ----------
> From: 	nicomonguzzi[SMTP:nicomonguzzi@vtx.ch]
> Reply To: 	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> Sent: 	Monday, October 27, 1997 12:19 PM
> To: 	bsellon@lexicon.com
> Subject: 	jamman upgrade
> 
> hello, i've just sent this message to Bob Sellon (the JamMan Genius at
> Lexicon) and i'm waiting for a reply.
> if anyone has some news, please let me know.
> ciao nicos
> 
> 
> >Hello, i've read about a jamman upgrade in Loopers-Delight
> >>http://www.annihilist.com.
> >Do you have some news?
> >Do you think it will be possible to send to switzerland (me and a
> couple
> >of >jamfriends are in a very excited wait ?)?
> >It is true that Lexicon has produced and sell 8000 jamman ?
> >
> >Thanks
> >(i hope my english is good enough to deserve a reply)
> >
> >With kind regards, nicolas monguzzi
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:21:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Fmplautus@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  Re:  2 questions
Message-ID: <971027151042_1402318841@emout02.mail.aol.com>

The LoOpDoctOrs thank you Tom.  No infinite loop and full feedback.  We are
impressed!

Best,
The LoOpDoctOrs

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:57:23 +0300
From: miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net> 
Subject: Re[2]: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
Message-ID: <00003E10.@poyry.com.br>
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___________________________ Separador de Resposta ______________________________
Assunto: Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
Autor:  Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net> na internet
Data:    27/10/1997 10:14

     The JamMan doesn't TOUCH the EH16 interface!  Listen to Roger Miller's 
     "Maximum Electric Piano" work, which is the best use of the EH16 I've 
     heard.  
                 
     -------------------------------------------
     
     I also suggest Eno's On Land as a good example; if you are familiar 
     with the EH16 it's easy to identify when he uses it.
     
     My EH16 was purchase in the early 80's by a friend in NYC directly 
     from Mike Matthews who sad that Eno payed US 1,000.00 for a working 
     prototype.
     
     I realy love my EH16 (and many other EH devices) and I know it very 
     well, so fell free to make as many questions as you like.
     
     
     Miguel

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:29:30
From: "Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D." <pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Cc: pdiem@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
Subject: Re: Stereo JamMan Looping
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19971027222930.2e1719fa@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Carpe Diem!
>Don't sell that extra ram quite yet Michael, stereo looping w/2 jamthings 
>IS possible - as I have recently discovered after much trial and 
>tribulation. 

It all sounds very impressive!

>I finally got this to work *PERFECTLY* by replacing two pieces of support 
>gear. I picked up a Digitech PMC 10 which replaced the DMC Ground 
>Control. The PMC 10 has midi in with merge and filter to the midi out, so 
>I now have an external clock (drum machine) out front with it's clock 
>being merged with the program change commands from the PMC 10.
>The drum machine in this set up could be replaced by a sequencer,or any 
>other source of clock and the mixer/patchbay could simply be a midi thru 
>box or a stand alone patchbay.  

Hmmm.... doesn't that mean that the loop length can no longer be tapped in,
but is determined by the tempo of the drum machine?  Or would you need a
_third_ jamman soley for setting the drum machine tempo...?  :)

Michael

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:21:52 +0000
From: "Robert S. Carter" <rsc4@hhmi.upenn.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Stereo JamMan Looping
Message-ID: <3454CDA7.675C@hhmi.upenn.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D. wrote:
> 
> Hmmm.... doesn't that mean that the loop length can no longer be tapped in,
> but is determined by the tempo of the drum machine?  Or would you need a
> _third_ jamman soley for setting the drum machine tempo...?  :)
> 
> Michael

This arrangement of having the JamMan slaved to an external clock can be
quite advantageous I believe. The drum machine/sequencer sets the tempo
and acts as a metronome. the front panel setting on the JamMan sets the
loop length. Maybe I use this setup frequently because I can't play and
hit the pedal at the same time. I'm not kidding, I'm lousy at closing a
loop. I work best starting the loop and knowing I've got 16 beats to
go...

If tapping tempo is important, certain drum machines and hard ware
sequencers do have tap functions. I have a MIDI Solutions,inc. "Pedal
controller" that will convert taps to MIDI clock.I split that signal
with a patchbay and send parallel clock signals to my JamMan, my Nord
lead synth (doing rhythmic LFOs and arpeggios) and a sequencer.

BOB.

------------------------------
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:41:15 -0400
From: paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Ph.D.)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE: jamman upgrade
Message-Id: <v01520d00b07aacc0cdb5@[208.212.178.71]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

So I take it the JamMan upgrade is OFF from this response ...???



>Sorry it's taken me so long to report back on the JamMan upgrade but
>unfortunately, things have not gone that well. Officially, the JamMan
>deal with Lexicon fell through. Being an employee of Lexicon, they were
>concerned about the destraction of starting a buisness on the side so
>they kept putting me off and off and off. Finally, I decided that, even
>if I was able to cut a deal, it would end up being a major pain in the
>ass (I am a programmer and a musician, not a businessman/shipper and
>recieiver). I want to spend my time programming and playing music not
>accounting/shipping and receiving. It would just be too much of a hit on
>my other activities.
>
>However,....all is not lost. I am a valued employee at Lexicon and they
>seemed to have noticed my preoccupation with looping. Quite
>unofficially, there are some low level rumblings of folding some of my
>newer looping stuff into a not so distant future Lexicon product. I
>can't go into the details but, they are listening to customer requests
>and they do count the inquires on the Lexicon web page (lexicon.com). If
>you want Lexicon to make looping products, YOU have to tell them. They
>hear it from me and they think it's just this preoccupation of mine.
>
>Meanwhile, I am still working on software that will run on the JamMan
>platform and have been authorized by Lexicon to use outside resources to
>test conceptual ideas. Many people have inquired to me directly about
>upgrading their JamMen. I will contact them each on a one to one basis
>to go over the details. Anyone interested in this should contact me
>directly at bsellon@lexicon.com. Make sure the word "JamMan" is in the
>subject.
>
>Bob Sellon
>Lexicon/Stec
>Software Engineer
>bsellon@lexicon.com
>
>> ----------
>> From:         nicomonguzzi[SMTP:nicomonguzzi@vtx.ch]
>> Reply To:     Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>> Sent:         Monday, October 27, 1997 12:19 PM
>> To:   bsellon@lexicon.com
>> Subject:      jamman upgrade
>>
>> hello, i've just sent this message to Bob Sellon (the JamMan Genius at
>> Lexicon) and i'm waiting for a reply.
>> if anyone has some news, please let me know.
>> ciao nicos
>>
>>
>> >Hello, i've read about a jamman upgrade in Loopers-Delight
>> >>http://www.annihilist.com.
>> >Do you have some news?
>> >Do you think it will be possible to send to switzerland (me and a
>> couple
>> >of >jamfriends are in a very excited wait ?)?
>> >It is true that Lexicon has produced and sell 8000 jamman ?
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >(i hope my english is good enough to deserve a reply)
>> >
>> >With kind regards, nicolas monguzzi
>>
>>
>>

Paul Poplawski, Ph.D.
email = ppoplawski@state.de.us  or  paulpop@ssnet.com
phone service = 302/737-4491
weekday office = 302/577-4980

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:05:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Fmplautus@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  Re: Electro-Harmonix Delay 16
Message-ID: <971027151447_1336109947@emout01.mail.aol.com>

Dave...

The LoOpDoctOrs agree that the EH is the milk of the mother of loopers, but
we have to say that for a digital device the Jamman sounds GREAT.  

Best,
The LoOpDoctOrs

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:53:14 +0100
From: Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: more on the DOD pedal
Message-ID: <19971028005313734.AAA212@Default>
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At 18.54 27/10/97, you wrote:
>It costs £130 UK (probably $130, maybe less), 8 sec forward 4sec reverse
>and hold, but no mention of a tap-tempo facility.  Now that _would_ be useful.
>
>Michael
>
>PS UK users, anyone wanna buy some JamMan RAM?  Since the recent confusion
>over stereo JamMen not working, the "spare set" for my planned-for JM2 will
>never be used.  Mail me if interested...
>
>
>
>

Hi

How much for the Zip?? And shipping to Italy? 

Leo

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:46:47 -0500
From: "G. Peterson" <rainham@connection.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Boomerang Address
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Would someone mind sending me the email address for the people behind the
boomerang...their sight takes way to long to open...

Cheers,

gp



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> From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> To: Rainham
> Subject: jamman upgrade
> Date: Monday, October 27, 1997 12:18 PM
> 
> 
> hello, i've just sent this message to Bob Sellon (the JamMan Genius at
> Lexicon) and i'm waiting for a reply.
> if anyone has some news, please let me know.
> ciao nicos
> 
> 
> >Hello, i've read about a jamman upgrade in Loopers-Delight
> >>http://www.annihilist.com.
> >Do you have some news?
> >Do you think it will be possible to send to switzerland (me and a couple
> >of >jamfriends are in a very excited wait É)?
> >It is true that Lexicon has produced and sell 8000 jamman ?
> >
> >Thanks
> >(i hope my english is good enough to deserve a reply)
> >
> >With kind regards, nicolas monguzzi
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:32:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Adam Levin <alevin@ari.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: more on the DOD pedal
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On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D. wrote:

> It costs £130 UK (probably $130, maybe less), 8 sec forward 4sec reverse
> and hold, but no mention of a tap-tempo facility.  Now that _would_ be useful.

Just got the new American Musical Supply catalog. It goes for $99.50 US.
Four knobs: Mix, Delay, Repeat, Mode. It looks like it's pretty much the
succesor to the old Digitech RDS pedals.  No tap-tempo from what I can
tell. It looks pretty much like the succesor to sister company Digitech's
PDS pedals. They do mention it has an 18 bit signal path though. The name
is FX-98 "Delay-O-Matic"

-Adam

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       "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue,
       out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one 
                           becomes a Hearer."
                           - Chandrakirti

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:09:30 -0600
From: "Mikell D. Nelson" <mnelson@dmans.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang Address
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G. Peterson wrote:
> 
> Would someone mind sending me the email address for the people behind the
> boomerang...their sight takes way to long to open...

>From the horse's mouth:

Boomerang Musical Products
PO Box 541595
Dallas, TX 75354-1595

Tel       800-530-4699 (outside USA, 214-340-6913)
Fax       214-343-1038
email     mnelson@dmans.com
web page  http://www.boomerangmusic.com

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