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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 193

Today's Topics:
  Digitech RDS 8000                     [ studio seventeen productions <ambie ]
  Vortex info                           [ Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT> ]
  The Orb, The Vortex                   [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pyc ]
  Re[2]: The Orb...                     [ miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT) ]
  Re: looping drums,samplers etc.       [ ZeplinSoup@aol.com ]
  Re: Price range comparison: AWE64/AW  [ ZeplinSoup@aol.com ]
  Re: Price range comparison: AWE64/AW  [ Walt Blackler <whb4@cornell.edu> ]
  How much should you pay for a JAMMAN  [ "Jeffrey Robert" <lewbrew@hotmail.c ]
  Re: Vortex info                       [ Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net> ]
  Re: How much should you pay for a JA  [ Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com> ]
  Re: Guitar rig advice wanted          [ "Mikell D. Nelson" <mnelson@dmans.c ]
  Re: How much should you pay for a JA  [ PJBMHB@aol.com ]
  Looking for A Female Voc/Lyrcst in C  [ jprice@intcpi.com (John Price) ]
  For Sale                              [ "Brian L Jackson" <brijackson@dttus ]
  Re: For Sale                          [ prentice@imag.net ]
  Re: For Sale                          [ jeff & mary duke <jmar@bellsouth.ne ]
  Re: Digitech RDS 800                  [ ANET@aol.com ]
  AW: Vortex info                       [ Haible Juergen <Juergen.Haible@nbgm ]
  RE: Vortex info                       [ "Hogan, Greg (Exchange)" <ghogan@le ]
  Re: Digitech RDS 800                  [ jeff & mary duke <jmar@bellsouth.ne ]
  Re: For Sale                          [ MiqSk8@aol.com ]
  Re: Vortex For Sale                   [ Darcy Clark <darcyc@engin.umich.edu ]

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 18:23:04 -0800
From: studio seventeen productions <ambient@adnc.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Digitech RDS 8000 
Message-Id: <199711100223.SAA25698@barley.adnc.com>
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I, too own one of these.  And as Pete said, it's a great box.  I've had mine
for about 6 years. I needed a long delay, and at the time the Oberheim and
the Jamman didn't exist (not to mention I couldn't have afforded them
anyway),,,so the Digitech was the only choice.

It has some real advantages, being all knobs and real-time tweakable.  It
does great thick flangers and wild choruses, I should mention.  But it takes
a while to learn how to get the best sounds, and looping with it can be
really tricky.  First of all, you have to select your loop duration FIRST,
and then pray that you are playing what you want to be playing when that
sucker comes around again.  You can open and close the loop to add more
material, and reduce feedback to let older parts fade away.

This was my main looping device for many years, and when I listen back to
the tapes of my band Bindlestiff I am amazed that I could sound this way
with only 8 seconds.  I ran the RDS8000 mix out into an ancient Digitech
DSP128 (now long since gone).  

Now for the other side of the coin.  It has no MIDI.  You'll have to buy two
footswitches to start and lock/unlock the loop.  And, it's not easy to get
that loop right when you don't have a START HERE/STOP HERE footpedal as you
do with the JamMan and the Oberheim.
And (and this is sad in a way) but I've owned an Oberheim for about two
years now (?) and although the RDS8000 is still in my rack, I very rarely
use it because the Oberheim is SO much more intuitive and eaasy to use. And
now that I finally got my upgrade chips (about two weeks ago) it works like
a DREAM.   (BTW:  GREAT WORK KIM AND MATHIAS!).

But if you can't afford an Obie, it's a GREAT box, reasonable quiet, and
loads of fun.  It can do some horrific detuning, and you can also alter the
pitch of your loops, say by recording a 2 second loop and then turning the
time down to 8 seconds (thus lowering the pitch).  I used to create
"vari-pitch" loops which were great fun but often quite annoying to listen to.

And, if it's cheap, you get a bitchin flanger, chorus,
slapback....infinitely tweakable.  It requires patience to operate.  There
are no presets.   

I've never regretted buying it though.  Some of the most amazing looping
I've ever done was done with the 8000 and the incredibly primitive DSP128
(or so it seems to me now in my old age :-)

it's nice to be back!

cheers,

dave at studio seventeen


BTW: 
the ambient music page has been expanded!
please visit us in our new, bigger home.

http://members.tripod.com/~technoambient/index.html
seventeen: the ambient music page

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:50:07 +0100
From: Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Vortex info
Message-ID: <19971110105006546.AAA188@Default>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi all Vortex owners

Listening to lot of comments about Vortex unique greatness I'd like to know
more about this unit. Ok, it's a morphing think, it's stereo, and this is
all I know. Can you say me more? Hou do you use in your looping rigs?
Post privately if no public interest.

thanks

leo

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:56:32 GMT
From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pycraft Hughes, PhD)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: The Orb, The Vortex
Message-Id: <9957.199711101056@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Mark:
>There is an album that Robert Fripp did with the Orb called >>FFWD (Fast
>forward). 
It actually comes from Fripp Feldmann Watkins (?) Dr_Patterson.  Patterson
and the guy whose name begins with W are the Orb, Feldmann is a German DJ.
I think....

Leo:
>Hi all Vortex owners
>Listening to lot of comments about Vortex unique greatness I'd like to know
>more about this unit. Ok, it's a morphing think, it's stereo, and this is
>all I know. Can you say me more? Hou do you use in your looping rigs?
>Post privately if no public interest.

Count this as interest!

I've found a supplier of the last Vortices in the UK who are shipping them
at $300 each.  If I get one all my other stuff ('cept the JamMan of course)
gest sold to cover it.  The question is... is it worth it as an only
processor?

Michael

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:38:41 +0300
From: miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com> 
Subject: Re[2]: The Orb...
Message-ID: <00004F77.4007@poyry.com.br>
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     There is a Fripp/Sylvian remix by FSOL: Darsham or Darshana (Iam not 
     sure about the name).
     
     Miguel


___________________________ Separador de Resposta ______________________________
Assunto: Re: The Orb...
Autor:  Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com> na internet
Data:    07/11/1997 22:44


Didn't Fripp do something with FSOL too? Like on Lifeforms? I can't recall 
actually noticing what he contributed, but I thought I remembered seeing his 
name on the cd book. Some soundscapes or something?
     
kim
     
At 01:24 AM 11/8/97 -0500, mark sottilaro wrote: 
>Hey Orb and possible Orb fans,
>
>There is an album that Robert Fripp did with the Orb called >>FFWD (Fast 
>forward).  Anyway, it's out of print in America but I think you can get 
>it as an import.  It is a monumentally beautiful album!  Why it's out of 
>print, I have no idea, but it occasionally turns up in a used bin here 
>and there (that's how I found my copy)  We should all yell at the person 
>that is refusing to print it (for what ever stupid legal reasons)  Give 
>the rights to Fripp and let him print it on the Discpline lable.  Check 
>it out if you can find it.
>
>Mark.
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________ 
Kim Flint                      408-752-9284
Mpact System Engineering       kflint@chromatic.com 
Chromatic Research             http://www.chromatic.com
     
     

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:48:38 -0500 (EST)
From: ZeplinSoup@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: looping drums,samplers etc.
Message-ID: <971110104835_-1306585001@mrin54.mail.aol.com>

I use the Jamman to compose songs in sections.since I use the computer for
start and stop times I know the exact tempo.Recently I have been using
Rebirth 1.5 to sync with Cakewalk and then program the drum loops that
way..BTW the random feature on that is of good use for this...
Reeve

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:23:41 -0500 (EST)
From: ZeplinSoup@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Price range comparison: AWE64/AWE64 Gold & what else?
Message-ID: <971110112340_426400693@mrin42.mail.aol.com>

For Midi...not much else..especially if you use Reality(WoW..Holy Moly
Reality is Killllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaa)
but for digital audio in the lower price range check out the Gina or the
LAyla card (@$3-400 i think)

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:21:16 -0500
From: Walt Blackler <whb4@cornell.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Price range comparison: AWE64/AWE64 Gold & what else?
Message-Id: <v03102800b08d0f16db83@[128.253.215.55]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>For Midi...not much else..especially if you use Reality(WoW..Holy Moly
>Reality is Killllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaa)
>but for digital audio in the lower price range check out the Gina or the
>LAyla card (@$3-400 i think)

any good sites to find these? -Walt

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:02:00 PST
From: "Jeffrey Robert" <lewbrew@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: How much should you pay for a JAMMAN
Message-ID: <19971110200200.653.qmail@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

What's the going rate for a NEW JAMMAN? OLD JAMMAN?

thanks,
JEFF

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:22:20 -0600 (CST)
From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vortex info
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971110135704.23670B-100000@icarus.icarus.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Leonardo Cavallo wrote:

> Listening to lot of comments about Vortex unique greatness I'd like to know
> more about this unit. Ok, it's a morphing think, it's stereo, and this is
> all I know. Can you say me more? Hou do you use in your looping rigs?
> Post privately if no public interest.

Well, the first thing to know about the Vortex is that it is out of
production.  :(  This means that finding one may take some time and
effort.

That being said, I think the Vortex is the COOLEST programmable effects
unit I've ever used!  I don't think of it as a "multi-effects" box in the
usual sense.  Those tend to be a bunch of single effects, each with their
own parameters, lined up in series.  The Vortex is more coherent, for lack
of a better word.  The various effects tend to interact with each other in
interesting ways.  Sometimes it's difficult to predict what changing a
given parameter will do to the sound.  

In simplest terms, the Vortex consists of a few discrete effects.... two
delay lines, two modulators, an envelope follower, and a simple mixer.  It
also has an expression pedal input, assignable to any parameter but delay
time.  Delay time itself is set by tapping in a tempo with a footswitch or
front panel button.  Each delay is set to some fraction of this tempo.
This makes it easy to get perfect cross-rhythms, such as three against two
(or seven against thirteen, or whatever), in time with your playing.

The envelope follower really makes the Vortex come alive.  It is assigned
to some parameter within the program, and makes the program respond
dynamically to your playing.  One of my favorite effects is the "Shadow"
program, in which the envelope follower controls the delay level.  While
you are playing, echo levels are reduced.  When you stop playing, they
rise up in the mix.  This way, you can play with strong echoes without the
echoes stepping on your playing.  

Another thing to consider... NO MIDI.  It would take some effort to sync
the Vortex up to a MIDI effects system.  Moreover, it's kind of a pain to
step through programs.  It's more a studio toy than a live toy.

Speaking of live Vortex... I need to get mine out again!  I haven't played
with electronics at all in MONTHS.  I have played nothing but unplugged,
solo acoustic guitar.  The last time I used my Vortex was an impromptu
performance with a jazzy scat singer at a gay rights rally.  Quite a shock
to the audience after an afternoon of show tunes and drag queen
lip-syncing!  

But tomorrow, I have a first session with a drummer and bass player, in
what may turn into my first band in over six years.  After having two
bands fall apart on me through no fault of my own, I've been leery of
committing to playing formally with others for a long time.  But now, I
think I may be ready again.  Tomorrow, we jam.  If the three of us get
along musically, we'll try to pursue this more seriously.  

I have some ground rules in mind... NO electric guitar (for my own
self-protection), and no drums that require sticks.  Hand percussion only.
However, I'd like to try using the Vortex and JamMan, albiet with the
acoustic guitar as a tone source.  And the bass, of course, is electric. 

Wish us luck.   

-dave

By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete.
Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. 
Venus De Milo.
To a child she is ugly.       /* dstagner@icarus.net */
   -Charles Fort              

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:42:11 -0800
From: Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: How much should you pay for a JAMMAN
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971110204211.0098af7c@pop.chromatic.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 12:02 PM 11/10/97 PST, Jeffrey Robert wrote:
>What's the going rate for a NEW JAMMAN? OLD JAMMAN?

New Jammans probably would cost you about $50,000, since Lexicon stopped
making them quite a while ago and you would have to put it in production
yourself!

Used ones seem to be over $300 and rising. We should put a graph on the web
page.....

kim


>
>thanks,
>JEFF
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
>
_______________________________________________________
Kim Flint			408-752-9284
Mpact Systems Engineering	kflint@chromatic.com
Chromatic Research		http://www.chromatic.com

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:16:52 -0600
From: "Mikell D. Nelson" <mnelson@dmans.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Guitar rig advice wanted
Message-ID: <346779C4.3F37@dmans.com>
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Mark Kata wrote:
> 
> You may want to try one of those sealed speaker enclosures that contains 1 or 2 speakers and a microphone for connecting to the board.  Hook it up to your amp and crank it as loud as you want.  Then connect the mic to your PA board.  Little or no sound comes out of the enclosure.

I've heard that Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top uses one of these in certain
situations. Some of his tones you could cut with a knife!

Motley

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:52:34 -0500 (EST)
From: PJBMHB@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: How much should you pay for a JAMMAN
Message-ID: <971110165233_1049331465@mrin40.mail.aol.com>

i paid 3 and change for my jamman about 2 or 3 yrs ago. i then paid about a
hundred more for the memory upgrade. 32 seconds is worth 100 bucks!!! =-) PJ

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:56:07 -0500
From: jprice@intcpi.com (John Price)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Looking for A Female Voc/Lyrcst in Center City Philadelphia -  Pleae, if you must, flame me privately for the length of this post, please :)
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 11:16:12 CST
From: "Brian L Jackson" <brijackson@dttus.com>
To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com
Subject: For Sale
Message-Id: <9710108791.AA879189881@ccbbn5.dttus.com>

     Lexicon Vortex w/2 foot controllers - $125.00 neg.
     
     If interested please email me at brijackson@dttus.com
     
     Brian

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 22:57:02 -0800
From: prentice@imag.net
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: For Sale
Message-Id: <v01540b01b08db18f44fe@[209.17.137.84]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>     Lexicon Vortex w/2 foot controllers - $125.00 neg.
>
>     If interested please email me at brijackson@dttus.com
>
>     Brian

Hi Brian,

If you still have your Vortex, would you hang on to it for me? I'd like to
buy it.

Please send me an e-mail to let me know what's happening.

Best,

Lionel Prentice

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 06:56:06 -0500
From: jeff & mary duke <jmar@bellsouth.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: For Sale
Message-ID: <346847D5.3B449F5E@bellsouth.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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I would like to purchase the vortex!Please let me know if it is still
available.I can be reached at jmar@bellsouth.net

Brian L Jackson wrote:

>      Lexicon Vortex w/2 foot controllers - $125.00 neg.
>
>      If interested please email me at brijackson@dttus.com
>
>      Brian

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 07:05:32 -0500 (EST)
From: ANET@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Digitech RDS 800
Message-ID: <971111070530_277096659@mrin52.mail.aol.com>

I own an RDS8000 as well as a JAMMAN.   The RDS8000 would be best described
as an early entry into digital looping by Digitech.  They made two models, a
4 second machine RDS4000 and the 8 second RDS8000.  These units are fun,
reliable and very rugged and are best used for setting "static" looping
conditions such as preset delays for vocals from the microsecond range to the
millisecond range with one or more "echos" added to the mix.   It has a very
nice flanging capability, and as mentioned earlier up to 8 seconds of looping
capability.  I haven't used it in a while but I think you can record an
infinite number of loops over the delay pattern.  Unlike the Jamman, you
cannot set up a tempo dynamically (no tap tempo).  However, the range of
delay from the smallest to longest is controlled by a pot. and a range
selector. The selector gives the range such as 1ms 2ms 1 sec  2sec 4sec and
8sec and the other which allows you to vary that range from the smallest to
the next level, for example 1ms to 2ms range is selectable when the selector
is on the 1ms range and the pot. is rotated from the left to the right.  I
haven't tried it yet, but I wanted to use the RDS8000 for a poor man's stereo
by placing it on my stereo mixer using a mono signal (such as my vocals) and
on one of the channels adding a slight delay to increase spatiality.  All in
all, a fun toy at a cheap price, I paid $125.00 6 years ago. 

HAVE FUN!

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:40:08 +0100
From: Haible Juergen <Juergen.Haible@nbgm.siemens.de>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: AW: Vortex info
Message-ID: <1BF5E20E0C4DD111BBAB00805FE2D5820BAB98@nbgm336a.nbgm.siemens.de>
Content-Type: text/plain

	> Delay time itself is set by tapping in a tempo with a
footswitch or
	> front panel button.  Each delay is set to some fraction of
this tempo.
	> This makes it easy to get perfect cross-rhythms, such as three
against two
	> (or seven against thirteen, or whatever), in time with your
playing.

Would it be possible to set the delay time by electronic (switch-)
triggers instead of foot switches?
Well sure it would work to replace the foot switches, but the question
is does it work *continously*, for example syncing the delay to
the clock of an analogue sequencer or arpeggiator? (Or does the
tap tempo only work in a kind of "learn" mode?)
What, if the clock rate changes - will the Vortex' delay time follow?
Faster should be easier than longer, I guess. 

Does the Vortex do things like that?
Are there other Delay boxes that do such things?

JH.

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:15:14 -0500
From: "Hogan, Greg  (Exchange)" <ghogan@lexicon.com>
To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: Vortex info
Message-Id: <215C1D5A0FFDD011B3CC00805FC18C29132033@NTSRV2.LEXICON.COM>
Content-Type: text/plain

	Juergen asked:
	"Would it be possible to set the delay time by electronic
(switch-)
> triggers instead of foot switches?
> Well sure it would work to replace the foot switches, but the question
> is does it work *continously*, for example syncing the delay to
> the clock of an analogue sequencer or arpeggiator? (Or does the
> tap tempo only work in a kind of "learn" mode?)
> What, if the clock rate changes - will the Vortex' delay time follow?
> Faster should be easier than longer, I guess. 
> 
> Does the Vortex do things like that?"
> 
The Vortex tap tempo is a simple momentary contact connection.  It will
not work with an electronic trigger directly but you should be able to
have your electronic switch trigger a regular switch. The VORTEX will
not follow a clock continuously.  You need to tap in a new tempo each
time you desire one.  There is no way to get a clock signal into VORTEX.

Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything
that I can do for you.

Best regards,

Greg Hogan
Lexicon Customer Service
Phone +781-280-0372
FAX +7881-280-0499
email: ghogan@lexicon.com

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:40:34 -0500
From: jeff & mary duke <jmar@bellsouth.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Digitech RDS 800
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ANET@aol.com wrote:

> I own an RDS8000 as well as a JAMMAN.   The RDS8000 would be best described
> as an early entry into digital looping by Digitech.  They made two models, a
> 4 second machine RDS4000 and the 8 second RDS8000.  These units are fun,
> reliable and very rugged and are best used for setting "static" looping
> conditions such as preset delays for vocals from the microsecond range to the
> millisecond range with one or more "echos" added to the mix.   It has a very
> nice flanging capability, and as mentioned earlier up to 8 seconds of looping
> capability.  I haven't used it in a while but I think you can record an
> infinite number of loops over the delay pattern.  Unlike the Jamman, you
> cannot set up a tempo dynamically (no tap tempo).  However, the range of
> delay from the smallest to longest is controlled by a pot. and a range
> selector. The selector gives the range such as 1ms 2ms 1 sec  2sec 4sec and
> 8sec and the other which allows you to vary that range from the smallest to
> the next level, for example 1ms to 2ms range is selectable when the selector
> is on the 1ms range and the pot. is rotated from the left to the right.  I
> haven't tried it yet, but I wanted to use the RDS8000 for a poor man's stereo
> by placing it on my stereo mixer using a mono signal (such as my vocals) and
> on one of the channels adding a slight delay to increase spatiality.  All in
> all, a fun toy at a cheap price, I paid $125.00 6 years ago.
>
> HAVE FUN! I have a 7.6 sec. time machine by digitech,and i'll pass this on.I
> made a foot controller from a volume pedel and a few parts from radio
> shack.since the device is operated by controlled voltage I hooked up a 9v power
> supply to an on and off button, then it goes to a volume pot for range of delay
> then to the pot in the pedel for sweeping within the range set by the first
> pot!You plug it into the cv in jack on the back.I also use a roland tr-626 drum
> machine that puts out a +5v pulse,this sets the length of the echo to the
> beat.its so easy!Jeff

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:27:32 -0500 (EST)
From: MiqSk8@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: For Sale
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am very interested as well, if you haven't been swallowed whole

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:09:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Darcy Clark <darcyc@engin.umich.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vortex For Sale
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If there are any other Vortexes (Vortii ??) gathering dust anywhere, please
email me personally (darcyc@engin.umich.edu). I am sure the for $125 has
been gobbled up already. I keep just missing out on these units, and its
driving me nuts !!

thanks for the bandwidth

Darcy

>     Lexicon Vortex w/2 foot controllers - $125.00 neg.
>
>     If interested please email me at brijackson@dttus.com
>
>     Brian


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