------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 195 Today's Topics: Re: BeatSync (was vortex info) [ Kim Flint ] Lexicon Vortex for Sale [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ] Thursday: PROJECT LO [ Pete Koniuto ] Re: Re[2]: Frisell live [ PJBMHB@aol.com ] Re: Lexicon Vortex for Sale [ Darcy Clark ] Re: Lexicon Vortex for Sale [ Tom Lambrecht ] re:OB midi boxes (was cyclone (was V [ Kim Flint ] Re[2]: Frisell live [ lowfrqcy@west.net (Ryan Blum) ] Stop Plex gremlins! [ klaw@iglou.com ] Re: sync (was: Frisell live) [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Re: BeatSync (was vortex info) [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] re:OB midi boxes (was cyclone (was V [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Re: Stop Plex gremlins! [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:14:59 -0800 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: BeatSync (was vortex info) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:49 AM -0800 11/12/97, Kim Flint wrote: >At 11:02 AM +0100 11/12/97, Haible Juergen wrote: >> >The OB Echoplex can sync continuously to the old type of pulse >>clock from >> >old sequencers and arpeggiators, using the BeatSync jack. hmmmm. I said this while sleep-deprived....now that I've had a big jug of coffee I'm thinkin' it might not be quite exactly right. I'm not sure that BeatSync works with the old pulse type clocks. Pulses sent by metronomes or drum triggers or whatever, sure. But I'm not sure about those old clock lines. Does anyone know more about how those old clocks work? How many pulses are sent to define the time? It's possible it works, but I'm starting to doubt it. Matthias would know. BeatSync uses pulses to define the cycle time for the loop. So you might hit a drum trigger to define the start and stop times. (or the cycle times, if you are familiar with how the echoplex deals with cycles/multiplies/sync; meaning the total length can be some multiple of the defined cycle time.) If it turns out I'm wrong about the pulse clocks, sorry if I misled you.... kim >> It >>also works >> >with other pulses, like drum triggers. You can even use audio >>sources, like >> >a metronome output or a mic'd drum or even a guitar. Just has >>to be some >> >kind of pulse. The sync operates the same as midi sync for >>setting loop >> >times, and keeping them in time. The echoplex can also drive >>pulse clocks >> >out the same jack, so you could sync the arpeggiator to the >>loop. >> >>This sounds amazing ! > >>Asuming in the "fast" part, the Echoplex would be triggered every >>500ms, and then suddenly the triggers only come every 10 seconds. >>Does the Echoplex really wait these 10 seconds until it resets its >>cycle, or does it only wait during some time "window" ? >>And what does it play from 0.5s to 10s during the first long >>loop (there isn't anything stored in this place of the RAM, I asume?) >> >>Sorry for the stupid question - I just cannot imagine what would happen. > >No, it won't do that I'm afraid. As the clock varies within a certain >tolerance, the echoplex will stay in sync by retriggering the loop to keep >it lined up. But if the tempo changes too much, it assumes that you don't >want to stay in sync anymore and it stops trying. So then the loop just >plays on in its normal length. The echoplex can't do time stretching or >tape-speed-changing effects. Still very useful though, because most clocks >have a lot of jitter and drift around in speed. The sync keep things lined >up, so that the loop and the sequencer or whatever don't drift from each >other. > >kim > >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:52:30 -0500 From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) To: 'Loopers Delight' Subject: Lexicon Vortex for Sale Message-ID: <01BCEF7A.BCB10E60@mark.asisoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a Lexicon Vortex for sale at Big Daddy's. Here are the particulars: http://www.ugbm.com/munit.htm Lexicon Vortex - VG $159.99 Product ID - LEX7342 Mark Kata ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:33:10 -0500 (EST) From: Pete Koniuto To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Thursday: PROJECT LO Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Looperfolk, Just a reminder to those in the Massachusettes area that Project Lo, featuring CARYN LIN, BON LOZAGA, et al, will be performing tomorrow night! (This event has been anticipated with much drool for many months. I'll try to contain myself at the show.) Johnny D.'s Davis Square, Somerville 9:00p $6 cover (so they tell me) Hope to see a good crowd there, supporting looing artists' live performances in the Boston area! Should be a fabulous show! Will tell afterwards. Until next time, Pete Koniuto ----------------- Music Library Boston University 617-353-3705 pkoniuto@bu.edu ----------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:11:26 -0500 (EST) From: PJBMHB@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Frisell live Message-ID: <971112161124_1862259833@mrin41.mail.aol.com> digitech made the echo +. it is a pedal with i think 8 seconds of delay. you can find them used for about 100-150 bucks. =-) PJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:17:05 -0500 (EST) From: Darcy Clark To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Lexicon Vortex for Sale Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As usual I got there just after someone else bought it, DOH !!! Darcy >There's a Lexicon Vortex for sale at Big Daddy's. Here are the particulars: > >http://www.ugbm.com/munit.htm >Lexicon Vortex - VG >$159.99 >Product ID - LEX7342 > >Mark Kata Darcy Clark +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Materials Science and Engineering Department University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI, 48109-2136 USA +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Room 2130, Dow Building Phone (313) 764 3377 Fax (313) 763 4788 E-mail darcyc@engin.umich.edu http://msewww.engin.umich.edu/mse250 http://msewww.engin.umich.edu/people/darcyc/ http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~darcyc/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:16:33 -0500 (EST) From: PJBMHB@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Frisell live Message-ID: <971112161632_-1039712480@mrin43.mail.aol.com> the video is called The Guitar Artistry of Bill Frisell. It is about an hour and has his old trio of kermit and joey. they play "When We Go," "Strange Meeting," "Rag," and "The Days of Wine and Roses." Bill also discusses his influences, gear, technique, harmony and arranging. it is a pretty cool video but more for the music than the information. it can be bought in Sam Ashe. it is marketed by Rittor Music. =-) PJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 14:17:26 MST From: "Bret Moreland" To: Subject: re:OB midi boxes (was cyclone (was Vortex info)) Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Kim wrote: >The OB Strummer though, I never could figure out why anyone would want that... ----------------- Speaking of these OB midi boxes, do any of you have experience with the Oberheim Drummer? The description I see says that the drum patterns in the OB will respond to an audio input, say a guitar or bass, and create fills, etc. Is it musical? I miss playing with a drummer. I don't enjoy creating patterns on my Alesis HR-16 (though I like the drum sample sounds), and besides, they just repeat the program. No dynamic response to live performance. If the OB would control my Alesis, play a basic beat, and respond to what I play in some directed manner, this might feel more like working with a live drummer. Re Jamman availability and cost, I saw an internet ad for a Jamman for over $700 yesterday. The copy said "it's a steal" at that price. While this price is clearly absurd, I hope there isn't a trend of price upflex on the used market for the Jamman. I sold mine, with full memory for $250 this year. The world needs an inexpensive dedicated, HiFi loop box for the people who would never think of spending the money for an EDP, but would still have the time of their lives with a looper. The guy I sold mine to never expressed any interest in loopers, until I gave him the Jamman to try. After 1 night with it he was sold! bret ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:27:05 -0800 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Lexicon Vortex for Sale Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971112212705.008d6498@pop.chromatic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" With Jammans going over $500 and Vortexes selling within minutes, it's beginning to sound like investing in JamMans and Vortexes might be more profitable than the stock market..... Anyone want to sell stock in their Vortex? Maybe we can arrange an echoplex/vortex stock swap? :-) kim At 04:17 PM 11/12/97 -0500, Darcy Clark wrote: >As usual I got there just after someone else bought it, DOH !!! > >Darcy > >>There's a Lexicon Vortex for sale at Big Daddy's. Here are the particulars: >> >>http://www.ugbm.com/munit.htm >>Lexicon Vortex - VG >>$159.99 >>Product ID - LEX7342 >> >>Mark Kata > > >Darcy Clark >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Materials Science and Engineering Department >University of Michigan >Ann Arbor, MI, 48109-2136 >USA >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Room 2130, Dow Building >Phone (313) 764 3377 >Fax (313) 763 4788 >E-mail darcyc@engin.umich.edu >http://msewww.engin.umich.edu/mse250 >http://msewww.engin.umich.edu/people/darcyc/ >http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~darcyc/ >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-752-9284 Mpact System Engineering kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research http://www.chromatic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:38:16 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Lexicon Vortex for Sale Message-Id: <199711122138.QAA26784@newman.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:52 PM 11/12/97 -0500, you wrote: >There's a Lexicon Vortex for sale at Big Daddy's. Here are the particulars: > >http://www.ugbm.com/munit.htm >Lexicon Vortex - VG >$159.99 >Product ID - LEX7342 > >Mark Kata > > > > It doseny' exist--twas sold at least two weeks ago when I first called, tho it is still cluttering up their website. Call and give em some shit Tom Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:37:22 +0300 From: miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: Frisell live Message-ID: <0000535C.4007@poyry.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part That's it. Lets get rid of the sync paranoia. Long life for the freestyle looping aproach. Miguel ___________________________ Separador de Resposta ______________________________ Assunto: Frisell live Autor: Leonardo Cavallo na internet Data: 12/11/1997 13:49 Hi Yesterday I've seen Bill Frisell live for the second time this year. Not with his new quartet (the first time) but in duo with Joey Baron. As I hoped for this kind of line up, there was a big amount of looping in the show. Frisell uses the same device with two pedals and some knob on it (rds 8000 i think). He mounts it over a little reverb/delay half rack and that was all. Some interesting notes I didn't notice the first time (when looping was quite minimal): - Frisell develops and builds his loops in silence. He plays some notes in the air to begin, then you can see him picking and strumming but no sound comes out from the amps. Baron often starts to play and still there's no loop playing. Suddenldly Frisell gives the loop volume and you hear this REALLY ODD phrases and sounds coming out. He uses pitch and speed knob a lot to alter the sound of his loops. - There was no sync between the loops and Baron drumming. It was something wanted and the effect was really interesting. Also when the loop were extremely rhythmic. Not only layers and sounds with no rythmic reference but arpeggios and bass notes too, crossing the bars without any sync to the beats of the songs. - For this kind of lineup Frisell uses the loops to have a bigger sound and to set the mood of the piece . Quite often without any harmonic (or rhytmic, as above) relationship with his improvisation lines played over the loop. Great show (not only for the looping side...) ciao leo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:45:41 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Lexicon Vortex for Sale Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >With Jammans going over $500 and Vortexes selling within minutes, it's >beginning to sound like investing in JamMans and Vortexes might be more >profitable than the stock market..... > >Anyone want to sell stock in their Vortex? Maybe we can arrange an >echoplex/vortex stock swap? :-) > >kim > I can see it now, the JamMan/Vortex becomes the next TB 303/TR 808. Selling for $1200 bucks each. Endless internet arguments claiming that you can't do REAL loop music unles you have a JamMan. I can hardly wait. But who'll become the Josh Wink of the JamMan? ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:50:24 -0600 From: Tom Spaulding To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: re:OB midi boxes (was cyclone (was Vortex info)) Message-Id: <97Nov12.155045cst.26889@gateway.gibson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If I may quote Mark Vail's July 1991 review of the Drummer... "Compared to the playback capabilities of...drum machines, Drummer pretty much sits on its own drum throne...it can start when you do, it'll get louder when you do, and it will play a fill to occupy the gap in the music - automatically. One of the neatest benefits of Song Mode is that, should presets with different tempos be strung together, Drummer will - during playback- start adjusting the tempo of the following preset. Thus, there will be smooth, rather than abrupt, changes in tempo. Drummer belongs in the catagory of devices that, with minimal user orientation, can be integrated into a MIDI setup and start generating satifying results almost immediately. ...Once you get familiar with it, you'll probably develop a closer relationship with Drummer than you've had with any drum machine, bercause you won't be stuk with programmed drum tracks that play exactly the same part everytime" I have seen used Drummers for very low cost. They retail new for $199.00. Tom At 03:17 PM 11/12/97 -0600, you wrote: > >>Kim wrote: > >>The OB Strummer though, I never could figure out why anyone would want >that... >----------------- > >Speaking of these OB midi boxes, do any of you have experience with the >Oberheim Drummer? The description I see says that the drum patterns in >the OB will respond to an audio input, say a guitar or bass, and create >fills, etc. > >Is it musical? I miss playing with a drummer. I don't enjoy creating >patterns on my Alesis HR-16 (though I like the drum sample sounds), and >besides, they just repeat the program. No dynamic response to live >performance. If the OB would control my Alesis, play a basic beat, and >respond to what I play in some directed manner, this might feel more like >working with a live drummer. > >Re Jamman availability and cost, I saw an internet ad for a Jamman for >over $700 yesterday. The copy said "it's a steal" at that price. While >this price is clearly absurd, I hope there isn't a trend of price upflex >on the used market for the Jamman. I sold mine, with full memory for $250 >this year. The world needs an inexpensive dedicated, HiFi loop box for >the people who would never think of spending the money for an EDP, but >would still have the time of their lives with a looper. The guy I sold >mine to never expressed any interest in loopers, until I gave him the >Jamman to try. After 1 night with it he was sold! > >bret > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:49:19 -0800 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Cc: Subject: re:OB midi boxes (was cyclone (was Vortex info)) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971112214919.008ef4fc@pop.chromatic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I always thought the OB Drummer sounded interesting too. I only had a brief opportunity to play around with it once, ironically using it to control an HR-16 drum machine. Even then I think I just had it do the on-board demo. I don't remember it too well, but I do remember it doing interesting things with tempo variations and giving the patterns a "human" feel. It's probably never been super popular since it doesn't actually contain it's own sounds, just midi drum sequences. But in some respects that makes it more interesting, because you aren't constrained by a limited set of samples on a given drum machine device. And as I recall, it has a very large number of drum pattern sequences programmed into it. Chances are a lot of them are better than most of us could come up with on our own, especially if you just want something quick. And the real-world responsiveness part would be really cool if it works. Maybe one of the Oberheim folk could further enlighten us? kim At 02:17 PM 11/12/97 MST, Bret Moreland wrote: > >>Kim wrote: > >>The OB Strummer though, I never could figure out why anyone would want >that... >----------------- > >Speaking of these OB midi boxes, do any of you have experience with the >Oberheim Drummer? The description I see says that the drum patterns in >the OB will respond to an audio input, say a guitar or bass, and create >fills, etc. > >Is it musical? I miss playing with a drummer. I don't enjoy creating >patterns on my Alesis HR-16 (though I like the drum sample sounds), and >besides, they just repeat the program. No dynamic response to live >performance. If the OB would control my Alesis, play a basic beat, and >respond to what I play in some directed manner, this might feel more like >working with a live drummer. > >Re Jamman availability and cost, I saw an internet ad for a Jamman for >over $700 yesterday. The copy said "it's a steal" at that price. While >this price is clearly absurd, I hope there isn't a trend of price upflex >on the used market for the Jamman. I sold mine, with full memory for $250 >this year. The world needs an inexpensive dedicated, HiFi loop box for >the people who would never think of spending the money for an EDP, but >would still have the time of their lives with a looper. The guy I sold >mine to never expressed any interest in loopers, until I gave him the >Jamman to try. After 1 night with it he was sold! > >bret > > > ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-752-9284 Mpact System Engineering kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research http://www.chromatic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:04:25 -0800 (PST) From: lowfrqcy@west.net (Ryan Blum) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re[2]: Frisell live Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> actually i think he uses a digitech echo +. that is what he used in his >> instructional video. >I don't recall having heard mention of this before - do you have details of >which company produced it, approximate date of release etc? The Echo+Plus is the market name for the 2-pedaled digitech monster we've been talking about (the PDS-8000). I'm looking at it right now, and somehow I've always neglected the "trigger input"...I didn't get the manual with mine, what might a pedal plugged in here do? I'm sure I could experiment, but that would involve me getting off of my duff to go buy a pedal. maybe later... Ryan -- "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:55:53 -0500 From: klaw@iglou.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Stop Plex gremlins! Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Oh No now its happening to me... again. O.K.,(deep breath) has anyone here had a problem with the plex flashing the Ld 3.2 message along with 0.00 in the time slot?The front panel buttons dont get me anywhere. This just started last night. This problem seems to go away after reinitializing on boot up but its not holding my settings in memory.Is this hardware or will these little gremlins be swept away by installing Loop5.0?Please tell me this is a common problem and is something I ve missed reading in the bug list. Also the beat sync input does not function on my Echoplex anyone have this problem also? Help is more than greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone ! K Law ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 02:39:50 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: sync (was: Frisell live) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Miguel said > That's it. > Lets get rid of the sync paranoia. > Long life for the freestyle looping aproach. I know its not meant very seriously, but nevertheless I feel like saying: Syncing is a very natural, human, probably even ethic thing. We are learning about it on all levels, from daily live rhithms to human relations to globalization - nothing to get paranoid, but not to get rid of either, something to learn, through watches, pulses, phone calls, telepathic feelings... Ok, if the moon month was syncronized to the earth year, the chines calender would match the western... we are not all that powerfull and have to be able to live with or even love chaos, too... So each one works at a different front. Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 02:39:50 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: BeatSync (was vortex info) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Juergens question: >>Asuming in the "fast" part, the Echoplex would be triggered every >>500ms, and then suddenly the triggers only come every 10 seconds. >>Does the Echoplex really wait these 10 seconds until it resets its >>cycle, or does it only wait during some time "window" ? >>And what does it play from 0.5s to 10s during the first long >>loop (there isn't anything stored in this place of the RAM, I asume?) >> >>Sorry for the stupid question - I just cannot imagine what would happen. Kims answer: >No, it won't do that I'm afraid. As the clock varies within a certain >tolerance, the echoplex will stay in sync by retriggering the loop to keep >it lined up. But if the tempo changes too much, it assumes that you don't >want to stay in sync anymore and it stops trying. So then the loop just >plays on in its normal length. The echoplex can't do time stretching or >tape-speed-changing effects. Still very useful though, because most clocks >have a lot of jitter and drift around in speed. The sync keep things lined >up, so that the loop and the sequencer or whatever don't drift from each >other. What great companion Kim sais is all true but maybe does not answer the question quite exactly: The sync corrections happens whenever a sync pulse comes in close to the loop end. I understand from Juergens example that the Plex contains a 500ms loop. When the sync signal does not come for 10 seconds, it repeats the 500ms phrase freely during the "time window" but does the syncing after 10 seconds since this is a multiple of 500ms. So yes, it stays in sync, but does not slow down 20 times, as you might want :-). And yes, if you slow down to say 9.8 seconds, it will not sync any more. Kim again, after strong coffee: >Does anyone know more about how those old clocks work? How many >pulses are sent to define the time? It's possible it works, but I'm >starting to doubt it. Matthias would know. Me? Never heard of "old clocks". I also assumed simple pulses... Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 02:39:50 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: re:OB midi boxes (was cyclone (was Vortex info)) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >If I may quote Mark Vail's July 1991 review of the Drummer... > >"Compared to the playback capabilities of...drum machines, Drummer pretty >much sits on its own drum throne...it can start when you do, it'll get >louder when you do, and it will play a fill to occupy the gap in the music >- automatically. > >One of the neatest benefits of Song Mode is that, should presets with >different tempos be strung together, Drummer will - during playback- start >adjusting the tempo of the following preset. Thus, there will be smooth, >rather than abrupt, changes in tempo. So now we have to create a looper that slowly adjusts to those tempo changes? As it changes between loops of different speeds? Oh boy... Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 02:54:41 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Stop Plex gremlins! Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Oh No now its happening to me... again. O.K.,(deep breath) has anyone here >had a problem with the plex flashing the Ld 3.2 message along with 0.00 in >the time slot?The front panel buttons dont get me anywhere. A software crash, maybe because it is not able to read the parameters. >This problem seems to go away after reinitializing on >boot up but its not holding my settings in memory. So the next time you switch it on (without holding Param), its crashing again? >Is this hardware Probably the EEPROM (non volatile memory) >these little gremlins be swept away by installing Loop5.0? I doubt it. >Also the beat sync input does not function on my Echoplex Maybe you did not quite understand its function. Does the Plex's green dot between the two multiple digits flash when its in Reset and receives sync pulses? If it does, the next Record will be quantized to fit into the puls pattern it receives. From then on it will stay synced, confirming with the same green dot whenever it corrects time. Matthias --------------------------------