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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 203

Today's Topics:
  Re: On being complete nerds           [ nyfac2 <nyfac2@nyfac.com> ]
  Re: On being complete nerds           [ Tom Spaulding <tspauldi@gibson.com> ]
  FW: On being complete nerds           [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]
  Top ten list                          [ "Siobhan Canty" <siocanty@cfpa.org> ]
  Re: Top ten list      
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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 203


Today's Topics:

  Re: On being complete nerds           [ nyfac2 <<nyfac2@nyfac.com> ]

  Re: On being complete nerds           [ Tom Spaulding <<tspauldi@gibson.com> ]

  FW: On being complete nerds           [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]

  Top ten list                          [ "Siobhan Canty" <<siocanty@cfpa.org> ]

  Re: Top ten list                      [ Dave Stagner <<dstagner@icarus.net> ]

  Re: On being complete nerds           [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pyc ]

  Re: On being complete nerds           [ Sean Echevarria <<sechevar@californi ]

  Re: On being complete nerds           [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]

  Re: Top ten list                      [ Pat Murphy <<pmurphy@gibson.com> ]

  Current Listening, Looping Process    [ "T.W. Hartnett" <<hartnett.t@apple.c ]

  DP4 Possibly for Sale, Anyone Intere  [ Drumworker@aol.com ]

  Tape echoes                           [ VanEyck <<vaneyck@interlog.com> ]

  Re[2]: Top ten list                   [ Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) ]

  da' 10 joints                         [ Duncan <<duncan@esinet.net> ]

  Re: Tape echoes                       [ "G. Peterson" <<rainham@venice.conne ]

  RE: Improv style Top ten list         [ "Ott, John" <<John_Ott@ATK.COM> ]

  RE: Current Listening, Looping Proce  [ Michael Peters <<MPeters@compuserve. ]

  Occult loops                          [ Twayn Williams <<dgoat@rocketmail.co ]


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:03:34 +0000

From: nyfac2 <<nyfac2@nyfac.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: On being complete nerds

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> Miles Davis - 4+More (miles, george coleman, ron carter, herbie hancock,

> tony williams, tony was only 18, and it just rips....)



George Coleman? Any relation to Ornette?




My top ten heaviest rotated discs of the week:


1) Shiner 'Lula Divinia'- absolutely unbelievable.  Just saw them play

last week, and was one of the top twenty best shows I have ever had the

pleasure of attending.  Part math rock, part DC artcore, literate and

sharp.


2)Beekeeper 'Anywhere Will Do'  Brooklyn locals.  Also fairly mathy,

guitar reminiscent of Marc Ribot.


3)Malarkies '1'  More brooklyn locals, also fairly mathy, also

fantastic.  Both of these bands are part of this Brooklyn scene that

seems to developing into something very, very cool.  If any of you guys

live around here, you should definatelt check either of these guys out.


4)Throwing Muses 'University'  Bought this record when it came out afew

years ago, was really dissapointed with it until recently.  It's not

Hunkpapa, Red Heaven, or House Tornado, but what are you going to do?


5)Idaho 'The Forbidden EP'  Solid follow-up to 'Three sheets to the

wind'.  The bass player and drummer got the boot, and their presense is

missed, but Jeff Martin is in fine form and Dan Seta is, quite frankly,

the shit.


6)Jawbox 'Jawbox'  Their swan song.  One of the best bands ever to have

come out of the DC scene.  Buy this CD, and listen to it constantly.  I

have been, and I feel much better now.


7)-10) I haven't been changed the cds yet today.  TBA


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:10:58 -0600

From: Tom Spaulding <<tspauldi@gibson.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: On being complete nerds

Message-Id: <<97Nov18.141124cst.26889@gateway.gibson.com>

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A moratorium on gear talk is fine by me, since I don't own any type of looping device whatsoever! I do play and listen to music though, and just in case all you have been listening to is loop-derived artists, this list should juxtapose nicely:


<bold>Duke Levine</bold>- Lava ( extremely tasty guitarist:Steve Cropper meets Albert Lee at Jeff Beck's garage)

<bold>The Essential Ray Price </bold>(it is and he is)

<bold>Daniel Cartier</bold> - Avenue A (NY pop, gritty and analog)

<bold>Talk Talk</bold>- Laughing Stock (cool guitar tones and arrangements)

<bold>Les Paul</bold>- The Legend and the Legacy Box Set (Hear how it all started, including some demos)

<bold>Kim Richey</bold> - Bittersweet (The best thing going in Nashville)

<bold>Miles Davis</bold> - Kind of Blue (finally in tune and bonus track)

<bold>Chet Atkins</bold> - Teensville (Recorded in 1959 when guitars had Tone and echoes were analog...)BTW Chet has an EDP

<bold>The Everly Brothers-</bold> Walk Right Back: The Warner Years (Who has done it any better?)

<bold>Emmy Lou Harris</bold> - Wrecking Ball (Lanois-produced ambient-country)

<bold>Darden Smith </bold>- Deep Fantastic Blue (it all starts with a song)


Tom


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:22:16 -0500

From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)

To: 'Loopers Delight' <<loopers-delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: FW: On being complete nerds

Message-ID: <<01BCF435.C2085020@mark.asisoftware.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Looping Technique

When my loops start sounding the same, I turn the wet/dry mix control to full dry.  Then I play very sparsely for a minute or two.  Then I stop recording, unplug my guitar, turn the mix control up just enough so that it's barely audible and go upstairs, closing the basement door behind me.


Then I try to forget what I played and ignore the sound coming from my rig.  The floor and door filter out the highs and force me to mentally fill in what I can't hear.  I let this go on for a few hours, especially if my kids and wife don't complain.


It usually gives me some new ideas.


Top 10 List

1.  The Police (live)

2.  Paul Motian Trio (live in Japan)

3.  Duran Duran's Greatest Hits (don't laugh)

4.  Suicide

5.  The Planet Radio Station in Detroit - I haven't listened to commercial radio (except for the news) since 1990.  This station plays alternative rock from the 90s and 80s.  I find it very strange and empty.  Especially considering that my usual points of reference are Derek Bailey, Fred Frith, David Torn, Crimson, etc.  But, it's fun to listen to, anyway.

6.  Larry Young (Hammond organ trio recorded in 1961)


Mark Kata

Mark@asisoftware.com


 


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From: 	Kim Flint[SMTP:kflint@annihilist.com]

Sent: 	Tuesday, November 18, 1997 2:27 PM

To: 	Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: 	On being complete nerds


once again, Looper's Delight is pushing the geek-o-meter way into the red.

Now I certainly deserve some of the blame, but even I reach my limits with

endless babbling about this and that feature about whatever the latest

gadget is. Now I know you're all capable of much more enlightened

conversation, so let's have it!


1. How about this: What are the approaches you take improvisationally /

compositionally in creating and building a loop? Is there a structure to it

all? And leave the gear specifics out!



2. Top 10 lists are lame, I know. But I am really fascinated by the way

this list brings together people with quite different musical backgrounds

and styles. We're using similar techniques to create totally different

kinds of music. Rather than babbling about which delay pedal we use, I'd

like to hear more about the diversity of styles and interests that we are

all pursuing. I think there is a lot to learn from people doing things that

are different from what we do, yet somehow still similar; it opens up new

ideas to bring back to our own music. One cheap and easy way to get a

picture of musical interests is current listening habits, so toss in a list

of the cds/tapes/tracks, whatever that you're listening to! For me, the

stuff I'm listening to is always the stuff I've recently bought, because my

attention span is only a few seconds long and I get bored with stuff very

fast. A few things will hang around longer, that usually means I really

like it. Anyway, in no order, here's some interesting music I've listened

to lately, with no commentary since I don't have that much time:


Dr. Octagon  - Dr. Octagonecologyst

Paul D. Miller  - Viral Sonata (that's the guy who's aka dj spooky doing an

ambient album)

Meat Beat Manifesto  - subliminal sandwich

dj krush - Meiso

Grooverider Presents: The Prototype Years

Photek - Modus Operandi

Metalheadz - Platinum Breakz

Squarepusher - hard normal daddy

dj dara - rinsimus maximus

Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante

voivod - nothing face

Miles Davis - 4+More (miles, george coleman, ron carter, herbie hancock,

tony williams, tony was only 18, and it just rips....)

suicidal tendancies - the art of rebellion   (good punk metal nostalgia

kick...)

Tom Rupolo  -  Loop 7   (tom is just a guy on the list who sent me a tape,

nice loungy trip-hop something, dripping with fender rhodes...)


anyway, comment freely....



kim




______________________________________________________________________

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http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:24:37 -0500

From: "Siobhan Canty" <<siocanty@cfpa.org>

To: "Loopers Delight" <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Top ten list

Message-Id: <<20242709900630@cfpa.org>

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In general, I tend to go through artists rather than specific pieces or

albums.  So here's a list of some I have been listening to in the last

week:


Arvo Part

Annonymous Four (four women doing a hell of a job reviving medeival vocal

music - check out the English Lady Mass)

Jeff Buckley 

Jeremy Enigk  

Miriam Makeba

Sarah Vaughn (as always)

Cafe Tacuba

Fugazi* 

The Make*Up

Mail Order Bride*

(*these three bands are my favorite DC-based groups...all of them have

websites so check'm out!!)


And one more specific piece:  Carmina Burana by Carl Orff, the lyrics are

great and the drive of this piece is compelling.  I went through a phase

with this one years back and just picked it up again this week - worth

listening to again!!


This list makes me realize I need to go on a shopping spree...


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:37:38 -0600 (CST)

From: Dave Stagner <<dstagner@icarus.net>

To: Loopers Delight <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Re: Top ten list

Message-ID: <<Pine.LNX.3.95.971118142908.3948A-100000@icarus.icarus.net>

Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


In no particular order...


Rush, "Moving Pictures" (we're covering Tom Sawyer on acoustic guitar and

congas...)


Roger Miller, "Maximum Electric Piano"


Richard Thompson, "Watching the Dark" (boxed set)


Steve Tibbetts, "Exploded View"


Fairport Convention, "Liege and Leaf"


World Cafe (syndicated music radio on NPR)


Marc Ribot, "Rootless Cosmopolitans"


Lou Reed and John Cale, "Songs for Drella"


Mostly, though, I'm just playing acoustic guitar by myself, like usual.


-dave


By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete.

Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. 

Venus De Milo.

To a child she is ugly.       /* dstagner@icarus.net */

   -Charles Fort              


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 20:39:59 GMT

From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pycraft Hughes, PhD)

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: On being complete nerds

Message-Id: <<23525.199711182039@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


>1. How about this: What are the approaches you take improvisationally /

>compositionally in creating and building a loop? Is there a structure to it

>all? And leave the gear specifics out!


Jeez, if you don't want people to talk about loopers you SHOULDN'T GO

AROUND MAKING THEM!  Ha!


>2. Top 10 lists are lame, I know. One cheap and easy way to get a

>picture of musical interests is current listening habits, so toss in a list

>of the cds/tapes/tracks, whatever that you're listening to! 


1.      Mike Oldfield:          Tubular Bells II

2.      Bill Frizell:           Before We Were Born

3.      Durutti Column:         Sex and Death

4.      Phil Glass:             Einstein/Satyagraha/Akhnaten compilation

5.      Fripp & Craftys:        Show of Hands

6.      Sylvian Fripp:          The First Day 

7.      Sylvian & the guy from Can:  Plight and Premonition 

8.      Laurie Anderson:        Mister Heartbreak

9.        "      "              Big Science

10.     Wes Montgomery:         Talking Verve

 

Michael


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:58:12 -0800

From: Sean Echevarria <<sechevar@california.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: On being complete nerds

Message-Id: <<3.0.3.32.19971118125812.009f13a0@global.california.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


> 2. Top 10 lists are lame, I know. But I am really fascinated by the way

>


Like a previous post - no particular order or recordings.


Dead Can Dance

Voivod

Michael Hedges

Mr. Torn

Husker Du

Kate Bush

Carcass

Steve Tibbetts 

Sonic Youth 

Skinny Puppy

and since there have already been two posts about DC music - Deceased


Nothing like diversity!


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:08:37 -0800

From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: On being complete nerds

Message-Id: <<v0151010ab097ae7cc120@[128.193.5.226]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


>once again, Looper's Delight is pushing the geek-o-meter way into the red.

>Now I certainly deserve some of the blame, but even I reach my limits with

>endless babbling about this and that feature about whatever the latest

>gadget is. Now I know you're all capable of much more enlightened

>conversation, so let's have it!

>

Oh man, it's a sign of how far gone we are when it takes a top ten list to

improve the discourse....


>1. How about this: What are the approaches you take improvisationally /

>compositionally in creating and building a loop? Is there a structure to it

>all? And leave the gear specifics out!

>

Lately, I've been doing a couple of things to make the loops less overt.

One thing has been to turn down the output of the looper, and just blindly

punch thins into it for several minutes before I listen to the loop. It's a

good memory exercise, trying to make things work together coherently based

on what I remembered of what I play. Surprisingly, it's more interesting on

tonal loops than noise loops.


obligatory listening list, in no particualr order:

Cujo - Adventures in Foam: Very nice jazzy drum 'n' bass, like Squarepusher

except the jazz stuff is coming from a less cheesy place. Also, by the same

person is Amon Tobin - the Piranha Breaks EP, also very nice.


Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy: alternately leeringly evil and surprisingly

pretty, this is a fun and disturbing 33 minutes. One thing I really like

about recent Aphex is how condensed his compositions are. Parts of this

remind me of John Zorn played on cheap synthesizers.


Miles Davis - Dark Magus/Black Beauty/In Concert: These are the new

re-issue double CD sets, with cleaner sound, better liner notes and a WAY

cheaper price tag than the original japanese CD's. These are all raging

live performances from Miles' electric bands. It's amazing how conemporary

this stuff still sounds, after 20 years.


In a similar vein, Panthalassa, Bill Laswell's remix of Miles studio work

from the same period is very respectful. Laswell's hand is pretty

transparent here, you only really notice his work if you compare the mixes

to the originals, he stays absolutely within Miles' original concept.


Arcana - Arc of the Testimony: The rhythm section of Tony Williams, his

last session before his death, and Bill Laswell, with solists like Pharoah

Sanders, Buckethead, who actually sounds like he has a soul here, Byard

Lancaster, etc. This is what fusion should have become, and Williams

playing is so great that it makes his loss all the sadder.


Astor Piazzola - Libertango: I've started playing bass in a band that does

tangos, as well as some other latin American styles, and Piazzola's stuff

just kills me. This record, a live recording from 1984, is totally

masterful.


John Zorn/Bobby Previte - Euclid's Nightmare: around 30 improvised

miniatures, most lasting about a minute. Very concentrated, small, and

restrained, and surprisingly beautiful.


Kim mentioned:

>

>Dr. Octagon  - Dr. Octagonecologyst


if you like this, check out "The Instrumentalyst" instrumental remixes from

the above CD. Dan Nakamura, AKA the Automator, is one of the most

interesting hip hop producers today.


________________________________________________________

Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/


"...there will come a day when you won't have to use

gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in

your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper

type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em

together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em

together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."

                                            -Sun Ra

________________________________________________________


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:27:25 -0600

From: Pat Murphy <<pmurphy@gibson.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: Top ten list

Message-Id: <<97Nov18.152802cst.26890@gateway.gibson.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Top 10 Currently in Rotation (not in any order)


1 Toy Matinee

2 3rd Matinee

3 Aimee Mann

4 October Project

5 Deana Carter

6 Twila Paris

7 Beatles

8 Phil Keagey

9 Freedy Johnston

and a person can't listen to music all the time so #10 is

10 Seinfeld





At 02:24 PM 11/18/97 -0600, you wrote:

>In general, I tend to go through artists rather than specific pieces or

>albums.  So here's a list of some I have been listening to in the last

>week:

>

>Arvo Part

>Annonymous Four (four women doing a hell of a job reviving medeival vocal

>music - check out the English Lady Mass)

>Jeff Buckley 

>Jeremy Enigk  

>Miriam Makeba

>Sarah Vaughn (as always)

>Cafe Tacuba

>Fugazi* 

>The Make*Up

>Mail Order Bride*

>(*these three bands are my favorite DC-based groups...all of them have

>websites so check'm out!!)

>

>And one more specific piece:  Carmina Burana by Carl Orff, the lyrics are

>great and the drive of this piece is compelling.  I went through a phase

>with this one years back and just picked it up again this week - worth

>listening to again!!

>

>This list makes me realize I need to go on a shopping spree...

>

>

>

>

>


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 14:58:19 -0000

From: "T.W. Hartnett" <<hartnett.t@apple.com>

To: "Looper's Delight" <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Current Listening, Looping Process

Message-Id: <<199711182054.MAA15432@scv3.apple.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"


Lori Carson--Everything I Touch Runs Wild

Golden Palominos--Dead Inside

Marillion--Fugazi

Portishead--Portishead

E--Broken Toy Shop

Tony Geballe--(can't remember the title, it's his only CD)




Travis Hartnett


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:33:20 -0500 (EST)

From: Drumworker@aol.com

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: DP4 Possibly for Sale, Anyone Interested?

Message-ID: <<971118155745_1771735493@mrin52.mail.aol.com>


I have a friend considering selling a DP4.

He is currently studying in Germany but will be back in Dec. Is anyone

interested in making an offer for it?


His description of the unit follows:


"The DP4 has a short (only 3.3 secs) but high resolution loop.  It has 4

effects units which can be ganged in many configurations, and includes a very

wide range of excellent algorithms, from reverb/delay, chorus/flange, speaker

emulation, gating, and even vocoding."


Cheers,

Paul O.


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:41:48 -0500 (EST)

From: VanEyck <<vaneyck@interlog.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Tape echoes

Message-ID: <<Pine.BSI.3.95.971118163937.10175A-100000@shell1.interlog.com>

Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


	Hello,


	I was wondering if anyone has had any experience replacing the

tape in tape echoes.  I am particularly wondering if anyone has any

preference in replacement tape.  Any particular brand? Lubricated vs. non 

lubricated?  Thanks in advance.


	Best,


	TREVOR.

	VanEyck@interlog.com


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:11:34 -0800

From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle)

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Mike.Biffle@wj.com

Subject: Re[2]: Top ten list

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     Compositional style...

     

     I've enjoyed the various descriptions of techniques for building a 

     looped composition. I also use many of those approaches.

     

     There are times though when I've made a blunder, and disregarded my 

     instincts to kill it and continue on anyway to slowly develop 

     something new and find unity and beauty in the final outcome. I'm 

     often led into musical developments I wouldn't normally find myself 

     in.

     

     In a live situation, It's often quite funny to see the looks on 

     other's faces as they watch this process unfold. It's really worth all 

     the ensuing slander for those priceless reactions.

     

     As for my top ten list...

     

     1.  Miles Davis, Decoy

     2.  Martin Carthy, Collection

     3.  Sonic Youth, Dirty

     4.  Pavement, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain

     5.  David Sylvian, The First Day (???) w/Fripp

     6.  Nick Drake, Pink Moon

     7.  Tom Waits, Bone Machine

     8.  Byrne-Eno, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts

     9.  Bill Frissell, Where in the World?

     10. The sound in my head... (I'm looking for the output jack!)

     

     Regards,

     -Miko


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 17:28:49 -0000

From: Duncan <<duncan@esinet.net>

To: <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: da' 10 joints

Message-Id: <<199711182226.RAA01809@esinet1.esinet.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"


1.  DJ Electrolux: "Roswell Was Real"

2.  Rabbit in the Moon: "Orisha"

3.  OHM: "Tribal Tone" 

4.  Fade: "Separation"

5.  Sam Cooke with the Soul Stirrers: "Must Jesus Bear This Cross Alone"

6.  Enviornmental Science: "Stand By Your Droid"

7.  CJ Bolland: "Camargue" (Original Mix)

8.  Daydream: "The Hunter"

9.  Winx: "How's The Music" (Original Philly Mix)

10. The African Dream: "All In The Same Family"

11. SEM: "U.5"

12. White Label "MIDI Express Remixed"

13. Altern 8: "Evopor-8" (Just 4 Gamma Remix)


Duncan


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:57:07 -0500

From: "G. Peterson" <<rainham@venice.connection.com>

To: <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Re: Tape echoes

Message-Id: <<199711182207.RAA19950@venice.connection.com>

Content-Type: text/plain

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


Depends on the type of tape..ie. 1/4", tape cartridges (cart tapes) as

found in the univox 80, etc...

Generally lubricated tape is prefered...particularly in the cartridge types

where the loop is spooled from the center.


Cheers,


Gp



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> From: VanEyck <<vaneyck@interlog.com>

> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

> Subject: Tape echoes

> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 1997 4:41 PM

> 

> 

> 	Hello,

> 

> 	I was wondering if anyone has had any experience replacing the

> tape in tape echoes.  I am particularly wondering if anyone has any

> preference in replacement tape.  Any particular brand? Lubricated vs. non


> lubricated?  Thanks in advance.

> 

> 	Best,

> 

> 	TREVOR.

> 	VanEyck@interlog.com

> 


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:01:49 -0600

From: "Ott, John" <<John_Ott@ATK.COM>

To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: RE: Improv style  Top ten list

Message-ID: <<F1AB88C8C043D011875C00805FD426B81FB40A@Exchange_WV1.ATK.COM>


1. Improv style/technique


Don't have any set rules/techniques,  but lately I've been trying to use

my keyboards more.  for example Start with some

keyboard chords (minimal maybe just a fifth or third)

layer in some guitar,  layer in some keyboard ,etc. 



2. Top ten:  


like Kim Flint, I bore easily so mostly listen to recent releases:



1. John McLaughlin "The Heart of Things" (will see 11/20 at the

Birchmere)

2. Miles Davis  "Live Evil" - 70's concert released this year

3. David Torn "Cloud about Mercury"

4. Robert Fripp "That which Passes"  (will see at the Birchmere 12/10)

5.  Steve Hackett "Watcher of The Skies -Genesis Revisited"

6. Jon Anderson "Earthmotherearth"

7. Andy Summers "Last Dance of Mr. X"

8. Michael Brook "Albino Alligator Soundtrack

9. Daniel Lanois "Sling Blade soundtrack"

10. David Bowie "Earthling"



Anyone going to Birchmere for Fripp or MacLaughlin let me know if you

want to hook up.


later

John


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:12:19 -0500

From: Michael Peters <<MPeters@compuserve.com>

To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: RE: Current Listening, Looping Process

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Travis Hartnett wrote,


> Tony Geballe--(can't remember the title, it's his only CD)


Native of the Rain. 


A very beautiful acoustic 12-string album, clearly influenced by his

teacher Ralph Towner, and sometimes by his other teacher, Robert Fripp, but

very original nonetheless. Tony has also contributed a small number of

incredible compositions to the Guitar Craft repertoire, and he is a very

gifted Guitar Craft teacher himself.

___________

Michael Peters   

        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters

HOP - Fractals in Motion ..."the only screen saver you'll ever want"

        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm


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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:54:17 -0800 (PST)

From: Twayn Williams <<dgoat@rocketmail.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Occult loops

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93 all!


Kim asked for non-gear oriented threads, so let's see

what sort o' weirdos hang out here in looper-land.


As a member of an occult fraternal organization, I

have opportunity to investigate the subtler

capabilities of sound looping/delay.


Personally, I find that running a static loop for

astral applications (i.e. guided imagery travel) to

be not as effective as a more delay oriented

approach.  The evolving effect that can be achieved

with a long delay time and long decay seems to be

more effective for creating a "travelogue." 


On the other hand, the hypnotic effect of a repeating

sound (or texture) can also be quite effective.


Thoughts?


93


Rev. DOubt-Goat

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