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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 210

Today's Topics:
  Re: On being complete nerds           [ TritoneDW@aol.com ]
  Re: need a jamman                     [ klaw@iglou.com ]
  Re: Current Listening and All time t  [ hovard@online.no ]
  RE: I'm Volunteering!!!!!!            [ Sean Echevarria <sechevar@californi ]
  Re: Occult loops                      [ "John Andrews" <jra@clara.n
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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 210


Today's Topics:

  Re: On being complete nerds           [ TritoneDW@aol.com ]

  Re: need a jamman                     [ klaw@iglou.com ]

  Re: Current Listening and All time t  [ hovard@online.no ]

  RE: I'm Volunteering!!!!!!            [ Sean Echevarria <<sechevar@californi ]

  Re: Occult loops                      [ "John Andrews" <<jra@clara.net> ]

  Re: Current Listening and All time t  [ PJBMHB@aol.com ]

  Re: need a jamman                     [ Tom Lambrecht <<hideo@concentric.net ]

  Re: Logic Audio Users                 [ RAINER STRASCHILL <<moin@eikon.e-tec ]

  Re: A Brief Word From Obi-ville       [ miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT) ]

  Re: A Brief Word From Obi-ville       [ Tom Spaulding <<tspauldi@gibson.com> ]

  Fw: Looper's Delight CD               [ "Matt McCabe" <<mattm@bi-tech.com> ]

  Re: A Brief Word From Obi-ville       [ nyfac2 <<nyfac2@nyfac.com> ]

  AW: Discipline Global Mobile          [ Haible Juergen <<Juergen.Haible@nbgm ]

  Vortex in a Coma update               [ "T.W. Hartnett" <<hartnett.t@apple.c ]

  Re[2]: Current Listening and All tim  [ Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) ]

  Re: Parabnormal Was Occult Loop       [ ZeplinSoup@aol.com ]

  Re: Re[2]: Current Listening and All  [ Paolo Valladolid <<pvallado@wayneswo ]

  I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE                 [ <<MALLONJE@academic.fpc.edu> ]

  Re: need a jamman                     [ Kim Flint <<kflint@annihilist.com> ]

  Re: Parabnormal Was Occult Loop       [ "T.W. Hartnett" <<hartnett.t@apple.c ]

  Re: A Brief Word From Obi-ville       [ Erik Ljones <<eriklj@stud.ntnu.no> ]

  Non-Guitarist Loopers                 [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ]

  RE: Brainwave Synch                   [ "Bailey, Jim" <<baileyj@donmspcn.cma ]


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:18:51 -0500 (EST)

From: TritoneDW@aol.com

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: On being complete nerds

Message-ID: <<971121011851_360985597@mrin85.mail.aol.com>


Okay, here's my 2 bits.


Looping "Technique":



Almost entirely ambient---devoid of all but incidental harmony and melody. I

tend to think in layers of pure sound. I'm of the guitar and Jamman camp, so

I'm using the guitar as a "sound generator". (No offense to keyboard players,

but personally I think that the guitar is better suited to ambient sounds

than the synth or sampler. Please don't kill me.)


I find that there is a core group of sounds out of which I construct loops:

rubbing the strings laterally with a slide, volume swells of notes/chords

done so as to create a continuous harmonic sheet, glissandi with slide and

EBow, scrapes, spring sounds, driving the strings into the pole pieces. One

can also use the microphinic properties of pickups to interesting effect--try

playing a walkman into your pickups while making a loop. You can of course

record some guitar on a tape, then play it through the walkman, through your

pickups into the loop (you get the idea). One good idea: record the original

loop as a blank--leave it empty--then enter all layers in the layer mode.

This way, you avoid irritating pops and clicks at loop points. You probably

all know this. 



Listening:


Well, I don't really have a lot of time to listen to things lately, but here

is a random smattering of things to pass through my life lately.


Praxis--Mutatis Mutandis. Still the best Praxis album. I've been listening to

this for years.


Mr. Bungle--Disco Volante and the first album. Fantastic. Check this out--it

can't be described.


Jonas Hellborg/Buckethead/Michael Shreve--Octave of the Holy Innocents.

Acoustic bass and guitar shredding with deep grooves. 


Lutoslavski--String Quartets (performed by the Kronos Quartet). Excellent

contemporary string music.


Bach Cello Suites--performed by Yo-Yo Ma.  Is there a better musician than

Yo-Yo Ma alive today? Stunning performance of some of the best music of the

Baroque.


Penderecki--Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima. Talk about sound mass.


Josquin DesPrez--Motets. Rennaisance vocal wonders.


Gesualdo--Madrigals, especially book 6. Weird sounds from the rennaisance.


Gamelan Seker Jaya--Balinese Music in America. A wonderful Balinese Gamelan

ensemple in America. If your in the SF bay area check 'em out live. They

collaborate occasionally with a San Jose Indian dance company. Cool.


Portishead--Dummy. Unfortunate lyrics (unfortunate that it has lyrics at

all), but great grooves and production. 


Naked City--Naked City. What can I say about this one?


Shakti--Shakti. Or this one?


John Zorn--Forbidden Fruit. Kronos Quartet with DJ. Check it out.


U. Srinivas--Rama Sreerama. Karnatic music played on electric mandolin(!!!).

Stunning.


Anyway, people have been listing some great music on this thread. If you've

got the time, you could hardly go wrong. I'm not sure about the Spice Girls,

though :-).


Drew Wheeler


 


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:52:56 -0500

From: klaw@iglou.com

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: need a jamman

Message-Id: <<v03007800b09b435171c3@[204.255.239.158]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


>I had written a couple of days ago inquiring if anyone had info on where I

>could purchase a jamman for under list price. Thank you for your replies.

>If anyone else has any more info, please let me know. Thanks

>

>							Haganbr@jmu.edu

I posted this on Sat. Dont know of status

>>>>>>>?Anyone looking for ***New*** Jam Man in box? Price $288! - Music

>>>>>>>Warehouse >>Louisville Ky (502)-456 -4730 . Somebody grab it !


                           K Law


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:18:08 +0100

From: hovard@online.no

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: Current Listening and All time top something

Message-Id: <<3.0.32.19971121075947.00689294@online.no>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


>Jan Gabarek...he has a release with David Torn btw and another one with

Frisell.


Hey Patrick , good to see someone mentioning Jan Garbarek. I say this coz

he is definately worth checkin out! He directly influenced David Torn , and

probably many of the other

guitarists he played with , wich include (and here`s the point of all this):

John Abercrombie , Ralph Towner , Bill Frisell (2 discs) , David Torn ,

Terje Rypdal.

I say , he must be the John Mayall of ECM!!!?!


The disc with Torn is called "It`S ok to listen to the great voice" , and

has some great clean,compressed,volumepedal guitar. Very different from his

solo-albums but you still hear his voice.  


The discs with Frisell are called "wayfarer"(my favourite) and "off the

beaten path" ????+sorry but I dont remember the exact title of the cd , and

I don`t wanna know.


I hope this can be of some interest to all your "continental arses!" ,

anyway , just thought I`d contribute something.And Garbarek I can find in

any medium/large cd store all over Norway , but all the music you talk

of.......no way!  "Looping??? get the fuck outta here!!!!!"

squarepusher....hmm no , but we have the latest Prodigy......


now I`m depressed........



yours , Thomas W


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:23:13 -0800

From: Sean Echevarria <<sechevar@california.com>

To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com

Subject: RE: I'm Volunteering!!!!!!

Message-Id: <<3.0.3.32.19971121012313.0092a6f0@global.california.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


no lie - I can vouch for the truth of these statements.


At 02:02 PM 11/20/97 -0800, Ray Peck wrote about the CD project:

>As you might remember, I was going to do the project by reading the DATs

>on the SGI at work, which had the ability to read digital in.  Well,

>work all went to hell, and I ended up quitting (the company was bought,

>and I didn't like the new owners).

>


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:52:03 -0000

From: "John Andrews" <<jra@clara.net>

To: <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Re: Occult loops

Message-ID: <<01bcf66b$80827c60$LocalHost@default>

Content-Type: text/plain;

	charset="us-ascii"

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Great Thread..


Anyway......CoolEdit on the PC has some wonderful Brainwave stuff with a

complete and in depth description of the mthods used and what effects to

expect. Has anyone experimented with this program in this way?


>

>I never tried to duplicate this effect with sound, but probably have

>the tools to do this now.  I did not find the light effects to offer

>any practical use.  They were amusing for a while.

>


keep on...... ja


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:34:18 -0500 (EST)

From: PJBMHB@aol.com

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: Current Listening and All time top something

Message-ID: <<971121073417_495112610@mrin43.mail.aol.com>


you forgot to mention that jan also did some albums with bill connors who was

coming off his classical guitar phase and starting to play electric with a

classical technique. Great stuff!! =-) PJ is not a NERD


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:57:51 -0500 (EST)

From: Tom Lambrecht <<hideo@concentric.net>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: need a jamman

Message-Id: <<199711211257.HAA24072@cliff.concentric.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


At 01:52 AM 11/21/97 -0500, you wrote:

>>I had written a couple of days ago inquiring if anyone had info on where I

>>could purchase a jamman for under list price. Thank you for your replies.

>>If anyone else has any more info, please let me know. Thanks

>>

>>							Haganbr@jmu.edu

>I posted this on Sat. Dont know of status

>>>>>>>>?Anyone looking for ***New*** Jam Man in box? Price $288! - Music

>>>>>>>>Warehouse >>Louisville Ky (502)-456 -4730 . Somebody grab it !

>

>                           K Law

>

>

>

>

>


For you two newbies, (and I say that tongue-in-cheek being one myself) the

Jamman and Vortex have both been discontinued by Lexicon. Examples crop up

on the used market where they generally lanquish until some looper posts

notice of it to this group--after which the astonished seller receives

frantic queries from around the world . . .


I may have a line on a reasonably priced Vortex, but the other Looper in the

auction where I got it has first dibs:

(Dave, got ears man?)


drone on~~~~~~~~~Tom

Tom Lambrecht  hideo@concentric.net


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:34:56 +0100

From: RAINER STRASCHILL <<moin@eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: Logic Audio Users

Message-ID: <<34758E00.7C01@eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de>

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G. Peterson wrote:


> Hi all, I am considering purchasing Logic Audio

> recording/sequencing system(software and card) for windows 95


Hi Gordon,


if you have the need for external processing, as you mentioned, you have

to obtain a hardware that is capable of doing so, like Audiowerk (2In

8Out , SPDIF In/Out), which only works with Logic Audio, or one of the

new Event Cards (ranging from 2In, 8Out to i think 8in 12 out plus SPDIF

pairs) - in this case, you have more freedom as to which software you

want to use - they are said to be supported by logic, cubase and

cakewalk in the near future.


Personally, for me a harddisk-based system as you suggested is far

superior in flexibility to an off-computer adat system, as it allows me

complicated editing techniques (hand-syncing of not-togetherbelonging

tracks, funny digital fx etc.) - on the other hand, an adat is superior

if you're going to do live recording and stuff. Plus, most of the

hardware available for pc's currently only offer two inputs, which makes

it impossible to do for example a good drum recording. But for "home

writing" purposes, a harddisk-based system is the choice - plus, you

don't ever have to worry about syncing.


As for the software - try to find a store where you can at least take a

look at the different software packages. The usual programs (as

mentioned) above have reached a certain level of similarity in most

basic aspects, with advantages of the single systems in the more

"advanced" terms. Cubase offers in its new version realtime effects,

logic is more "intelligent" in its managment of harddisk files, and

offers an internal patchbay which cubase doesn't, Cakewalk is the

fastest and most stable of the three, and also offers a very powerful

script language.



	Rainer


-- 

For LOTS of HOT images of beautiful girls, don't go to

http://www.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de/~moin

Rainer Straschill - moin@eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de

          	MOINLABS GFX and Soundworks


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:23:22 +0300

From: miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT)

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Tom Spaulding <<tspauldi@gibson.com> 

Cc: kpaul@gibson.com, pmurphy@gibson.com 

Subject: Re: A Brief Word From Obi-ville

Message-ID: <<00005CC8.4007@poyry.com.br>

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     Instead of buying a t-shirt I would prefer to buy the Echoplex.

     

     When are we going to have them available?

     

     Miguel



___________________________ Separador de Resposta ______________________________

Assunto: A Brief Word From Obi-ville

Autor:  Tom Spaulding <<tspauldi@gibson.com> na internet

Data:    20/11/1997 16:44



Loopites-

     

Please check the Oberheim page (www.oberheim.com)in the next few weeks. We 

should have a place you can buy Oberheim swag: T-shirts, jackets, stuff 

like that. I had some Oberheim logo items printed for this first batch, but 

I wonder what kind of interest would there be in an Echoplex logo (both old 

and new) on T-shirts, jackets, mouse pads, whatever? Any input from the 

faithful is appreciated. 

     

Also, back in my Gibson Guitar days, we did a "Show us Your Gibson" 

campaign where we solicited photos of Gibson owners playing/posing with 

their guitars. First prize was a trip or something like that. Maybe we 

could do something similar with members of this list that own the Echoplex 

Digital Pro, albeit on a smaller scale (like maybe cab fare!). Any ideas? 

     

In a shameless effort to court our past and future users, I remain,

     

Tom "OB-1" Spaulding 

     


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:01:38 -0600

From: Tom Spaulding <<tspauldi@gibson.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: A Brief Word From Obi-ville

Message-Id: <<97Nov21.090211cst.26884@gateway.gibson.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Miguel-


I would prefer to sell you an Echoplex, but reality being what it is,

shirts I got, EDP's I do not. If having shirts made for people who are

interested in them annoys those that are not interested in them, I suggest

those not interested in them refrain from buying them.;)


Tom



At 01:23 AM 11/21/97 -0600, you wrote:

>     Instead of buying a t-shirt I would prefer to buy the Echoplex.

>     

>     When are we going to have them available?

>     

>     Miguel

>

>

>___________________________ Separador de Resposta

______________________________

>Assunto: A Brief Word From Obi-ville

>Autor:  Tom Spaulding <<tspauldi@gibson.com> na internet

>Data:    20/11/1997 16:44

>

>

>Loopites-

>     

>Please check the Oberheim page (www.oberheim.com)in the next few weeks. We 

>should have a place you can buy Oberheim swag: T-shirts, jackets, stuff 

>like that. I had some Oberheim logo items printed for this first batch, but 

>I wonder what kind of interest would there be in an Echoplex logo (both old 

>and new) on T-shirts, jackets, mouse pads, whatever? Any input from the 

>faithful is appreciated. 

>     

>Also, back in my Gibson Guitar days, we did a "Show us Your Gibson" 

>campaign where we solicited photos of Gibson owners playing/posing with 

>their guitars. First prize was a trip or something like that. Maybe we 

>could do something similar with members of this list that own the Echoplex 

>Digital Pro, albeit on a smaller scale (like maybe cab fare!). Any ideas? 

>     

>In a shameless effort to court our past and future users, I remain,

>     

>Tom "OB-1" Spaulding 

>     

>

>

>


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:26:13 -0800

From: "Matt McCabe" <<mattm@bi-tech.com>

To: "Loop List" <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Fw: Looper's Delight CD

Message-Id: <<199711211616.IAA14836@gw1.bi-tech.com>

Content-Type: text/plain

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Okay folks, here's the latest from Ray Peck. 


In my reply to this message I basically left it up to him on how he wishes

to proceed.  If you have submitted a tape to Ray for inclusion on the

Looper CD, I suggest you contact him directly and a) encourage him to

finish the project or b) send everything to me.  It's really up to you. 

I'm just here to help.


Matt


----------

> From: Ray Peck <<rpeck@rpeck.com>

> To: Matt McCabe <<mattm@bi-tech.com>

> Subject: Looper's Delight CD

> Date: Thursday, November 20, 1997 6:39 PM

>

> Yes, I have a bag of tapes and checks.  At the time, I was going to xfer

> DAT to computer using an SGI machine at work.  Then all went to hell at

> work, and I quit.  That was June/July.  I was then going to buy an Event

> Layla card to get the bits in.  It was supposed to ship in July.  It

> still hasn't (they last promised me it would be next week).

> 

> In recent weeks I have contacted two people on DATheads who offerred DAT

> to CDR conversion.  Neither has responded to me.

> 

> If someone can get the bits from DAT to a CDR, without editing, I can do

> any editing and cleanup, and turn the disks around in a week.  At the

> moment, I have no way of making that happen.  

> 

> I am still hoping the Layla card will be out soon.  Doing these disks is

> my highest priority for when that happens.  The project has become a

> cloud over my head. . .

> 

> I really have been trying to make it happen. . .


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:32:33 +0000

From: nyfac2 <<nyfac2@nyfac.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: A Brief Word From Obi-ville

Message-ID: <<34757151.6607@nyfac.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

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Perhaps Oberheim would care to reward those people who have been so

patiently waiting for the goods with some T-shirts.


Think what a smart marketing move it would be- every show an endorsement

for their wonderful product.  Sales commisions for members of Loopers

Delight...



Hey, just a thought.  I wouldn't be eligible, anyway.  I have a JamMan.



Trevor


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:33:45 +0100

From: Haible Juergen <<Juergen.Haible@nbgm.siemens.de>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: AW: Discipline Global Mobile

Message-ID: <<1BF5E20E0C4DD111BBAB00805FE2D5821051E6@nbgm336a.nbgm.siemens.de>

Content-Type: text/plain


Thanks to all who have pointed me to http://www.discipline.co.uk.

Interesting site.


JH.


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 10:40:09 -0000

From: "T.W. Hartnett" <<hartnett.t@apple.com>

To: "Looper's Delight" <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Vortex in a Coma update

Message-Id: <<199711211635.IAA05560@scv1.apple.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"


A few days ago I reported that my Vortex had gone belly up, with all the 

lights and LED elements on.  Greg Hogan suggested that I try swapping the 

power supply.  That fixed it.  So, the good news is that the Vortex still 

works, the bad news is that the AC adaptor failed after 18 months.  

However, $20 is better than $95, or whatever a Vortex board swap is.  

Many thanks to Greg for his prompt response.


Relieved,


Travis Hartnett


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:39:43 -0800

From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle)

To: hovard@online.no, loopers-delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re[2]: Current Listening and All time top something

Message-ID: <<0004E721.1264@wj.com>

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>>Jan Gabarek...he has a release with David Torn btw and another one with

>>Frisell.


>Hey Patrick , good to see someone mentioning Jan Garbarek. I say this coz

>he is definately worth checkin out! He directly influenced David Torn , and

>probably many of the other

>guitarists he played with , wich include (and here`s the point of all this):

>John Abercrombie , Ralph Towner , Bill Frisell (2 discs) , David Torn ,

>Terje Rypdal.

>I say , he must be the John Mayall of ECM!!!?!


I didn't realize he had played with Towner... He IS the John Mayall of wiggly 

guitar players. I like that idea. Someone should tell Jan that!


>The disc with Torn is called "It`S ok to listen to the great voice" , and

>has some great clean,compressed,volumepedal guitar. Very different from his

>solo-albums but you still hear his voice.  


I believe the disc is "It's ok to listen to the *grey* voice". It's been awhile,

but this thread has me thinking about digging that out of my vinyl collection. 

(That means I'd have to go find the turntable as well.) It really is true that 

Torn had his voice quite well established at that point.


>now I`m depressed........

>yours , Thomas W


Melancholy helps those moody ambient loops along!

Cheers, Miko


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:41:08 -0500 (EST)

From: ZeplinSoup@aol.com

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: Parabnormal Was Occult Loop

Message-ID: <<971121134107_1247759412@mrin54.mail.aol.com>


check out www.sounder.com

and a program called cthuga( there has to be a way to hook 

cthuga to line input instead of cd...)


for your spacin' out needs....(and good too!0

Reeve


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:58:21 -0800 (PST)

From: Paolo Valladolid <<pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: Re[2]: Current Listening and All time top something

Message-Id: <<199711211858.KAA25756@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

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I just found out that Symbolic Sound now has a Type II PC card that

connects their Capybara to any PC or Mac laptop.  Here's the URL:


http://www.symbolicsound.com/press-PC%20card.html


I've been following the developments of Symbolic Sound's Kyma/Capybara

system with great interest since it appears to be one of the most

powerful and flexible electronic music products commercially available. 

Kyma is an open-ended DSP software package that can perform synthesis,

effects processing, hard disk recording, sampling, etc. Capybara is the

general-purpose DSP box that performs Kyma's functions in real time.


Being able to take all that power to gigs in compact form (one rack for

your looper and Capybara plus your laptop) yields all kinds of intriguing

possibilities for loopers.


No I wasn't paid by Symbolic Sound to post this; just passing along info

I got from a Digital Guitar reader.  :)


Cheers,

Paolo Valladolid

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Date:          Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:03:14 EST

From: <<MALLONJE@academic.fpc.edu>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject:       I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE

Message-ID: <<186A83A395D@academic.fpc.edu>


To whom it may concern

    I want to unsubscribe now.

                                




The ant and I worlds apart yet share the same space - Old proverb 


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:04:43 -0800

From: Kim Flint <<kflint@annihilist.com>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: need a jamman

Message-Id: <<v03102802b09b89f7edf8@[207.171.198.60]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


>At 01:52 AM 11/21/97 -0500, you wrote:

>>>I had written a couple of days ago inquiring if anyone had info on where I

>>>could purchase a jamman for under list price. Thank you for your replies.

>>>If anyone else has any more info, please let me know. Thanks

>>>

>>>							Haganbr@jmu.edu

>>I posted this on Sat. Dont know of status

>>>>>>>>>?Anyone looking for ***New*** Jam Man in box? Price $288! - Music

>>>>>>>>>Warehouse >>Louisville Ky (502)-456 -4730 . Somebody grab it !

>>

>>                           K Law

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>For you two newbies, (and I say that tongue-in-cheek being one myself) the

>Jamman and Vortex have both been discontinued by Lexicon. Examples crop up

>on the used market where they generally lanquish until some looper posts

>notice of it to this group--after which the astonished seller receives

>frantic queries from around the world . . .


In the past few months, I've been getting private mail constantly from

people looking for jammans. I guess if you do a "jamman" search the looper

site comes up and my email addr is there, so..... It was a little funny at

first, people asking me if they could buy my jamman(!?!), if I knew where

they could find one for sale, where they could find one new for a cheap

price, how much they are, etc. Now it is just annoying....


If you are looking for one, you're in good company it seems! They are hard

to find, lot's of poeple are looking, and the price is definitely going up

quickly.


kim


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Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight

kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html

http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 13:17:55 -0000

From: "T.W. Hartnett" <<hartnett.t@apple.com>

To: "Looper's Delight" <<Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Re: Parabnormal Was Occult Loop

Message-Id: <<199711211913.LAA32614@scv2.apple.com>

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>and a program called cthuga( there has to be a way to hook 

>cthuga to line input instead of cd...)


It also works with microphone input, or at least is does on a Mac.


Travis Hartnett


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 22:23:11 +0100

From: Erik Ljones <<eriklj@stud.ntnu.no>

To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com

Subject: Re: A Brief Word From Obi-ville

Message-Id: <<3.0.1.32.19971121222311.0078aabc@pop.stud.ntnu.no>

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Miguel wrote:

Instead of buying a t-shirt I would prefer to buy the Echoplex.

 

     <underline>When are we going to have them available?

</underline>     

Tom Spaulding wrote:    


>I would prefer to sell you an Echoplex, but reality being what it is,

>shirts I got, EDP's I do not. If having shirts made for people who are

>interested in them annoys those that are not interested in them, I suggest

>those not interested in them refrain from buying them.;)

>


Erik writes:


When will EDP's be available? I would like to know.


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:27:20 -0500

From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)

To: 'Loopers Delight' <<loopers-delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: Non-Guitarist Loopers

Message-ID: <<01BCF691.F95ACEA0@mark.asisoftware.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Hey, what are all of you non-guitarist loopers up to in your technical and ideological approaches to looping?  Especially those of you playing cello, theremin, percussion, etc.


Mark Kata

Mark@asisoftware.com


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Date:Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:24:00 -0500

From: "Bailey, Jim" <<baileyj@donmspcn.cmail.southam.ca>

To: looppost <<loopers-delight@annihilist.com>

Subject: RE: Brainwave Synch

Message-ID: <<347633D9@199.71.37.25>


>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:24:22 +0100

>From: 7302 <<7302@ssj.dtu.dk>


>Do you know about "Brainwave Synchronization" ????


About 20+ years ago one of the geek mags (either Popular or Radio 

Electronics) had instructions on how to build an Alpha-wave pickup which 

used a headband and some sort of electronics to pick up certain brainwave 

activities. This was then converted into not only audio, but video signals 

which could be displayed on a television set. Can't remember if I actually 

bought the mag, or if I just saw it , but it definitely existed. At around 

the same time, a guy named David Rosenboom was using a similar device (audio 

only) to create electronic music, although I don't think he used it with any 

sort of loops.


Jim Bailey


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