------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 211 Today's Topics: A bit of fresh air [ "Bailey, Jim" ] Re: On being complete nerds [ Paolo Valladolid ------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 211 Today's Topics: A bit of fresh air [ "Bailey, Jim" < ] Re: On being complete nerds [ Paolo Valladolid < ] Nels Cline [ Jeff Schwartz < ] was occult loop [ malhomme < ] Jamman [ malhomme < ] AAAAERRRGGGH [ malhomme < ] Re: Nels Cline [ hovard@online.no ] Re: Controller pedal [ "Brian L Jackson" < To: looppost < Subject: A bit of fresh air Message-ID: <<34763D06@199.71.37.25> Thanks for opening the window a bit Kim. That bit of fresh air, though, quickly turned into a gale. Not that I'm complaining; it was getting a little stuffy in here with all the tech talk, but this new thread virtually blew all of that clean out. Perhaps some of us lurkers who only pipe up to complain about the techie stuff should do more about it. The reason for taking so long to post this was trying to get through all the other posts. Phew!!! what an ordeal! (worth it though) Having said all that, here's my contributions to the fray: I'll forego the technical/technique thing, as that is described in the appropriate spot on the web page. As for Top Ten current things, I don't tend towards favouritism, as with several thousand things to choose from this would be difficult. What I have decided to do instead, is a list of what I consider to be the more important loop albums/pieces. So, in no particular order: Terry Riley - A Rainbow in Curved Air/ Poppy Nogood and the Phantom Band. What more need be said. Pauline Oliveros - I of IV. Made here in Toronto in 1966. Hugh LeCaine - Dripsody. Created using a multi-loop player of his own design which could play at variable speeds, and the sound of a single drop of water. Only two minutes long, but what a two minutes! Les Paul - just about anything. It's amazing that looping didn't take off sooner considering some of the stuff he did. Perhaps the technical difficulties at the time. Fripp and Eno - No Pussyfooting. Fripp once considered it (and may still) to be one of the best things he has recorded. Brian Eno - Discreet Music. I'm surprised that this hasn't shown up yet. Not only because of its importance, but due to the inclusion in its liner notes of a diagram for setting up the two-deck delay system. Steve Reich - It's Gonna Rain/ Come Out. See Terry Riley. Pink Floyd (actually, just Roger Waters) - Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave, and Grooving with a Pict. Just to show that looping can sometimes be fun! There's probably more, but it's past the time when I should have left work, so goodbye for now. Jim Bailey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:29:30 +0100 (MET) From: RHS Linux User < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Boomerang Message-ID: < Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi everybody, Can you give me some information about "BOOMERANG PHRASE SAMPLER". What is it's quality if coompared with Jam Man? Leszek. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:11:00 -0800 From: Kim Flint < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Cc: looppost < Subject: RE: Brainwave Synch Message-Id: <<2.2.32.19971122021100.00e673ec@pop.chromatic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There was a small company at NAMM a few years ago demoing a brainwave-to-midi convertor. I think they also had sensors to input heart rate, body temperature, skin conductivity, and maybe blood pressure too. It looked like it might be fun, but rather difficult to create music with. Shockingly, they failed to take the industry by storm..... kim At 08:24 PM 11/21/97 -0500, Bailey, Jim wrote: > > >>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:24:22 +0100 >>From: 7302 <<7302@ssj.dtu.dk> > >>Do you know about "Brainwave Synchronization" ???? > >About 20+ years ago one of the geek mags (either Popular or Radio >Electronics) had instructions on how to build an Alpha-wave pickup which >used a headband and some sort of electronics to pick up certain brainwave >activities. This was then converted into not only audio, but video signals >which could be displayed on a television set. Can't remember if I actually >bought the mag, or if I just saw it , but it definitely existed. At around >the same time, a guy named David Rosenboom was using a similar device (audio >only) to create electronic music, although I don't think he used it with any >sort of loops. > >Jim Bailey > > > ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-752-9284 Mpact System Engineering kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research http://www.chromatic.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:28:21 -0800 (PST) From: Paolo Valladolid < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: On being complete nerds Message-Id: <<199711220228.SAA28359@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Below is my top-ten rotation of CDs in my current listening. It's funny that just a few years ago, I was under the influence of the UCSD Music Department in that I snobbishly avoided any music that I or the professors and graduate students would consider "not innovative/creative enough". It's taken some time to open my mind and not be ashamed of liking the music I like. :) 1. Over The Sky (Vision Of Escaflowne Original Soundtrack 1). 2. Vision Of Escaflowne Original Soundtrack 2. 3. Vision Of Escaflowne Original Soundtrack 2. These first three feature the work of Yoko Kanno, my favorite soundtrack composer. Most of Kanno's work has been in Japanese anime projects and video games. Vision Of Escaflowne is an epic fantasy TV series that was a hit in Japan. About two thirds of the music feature Kanno's orchestral writing which seems to reflect a John Williams (Star Wars, the Indiana Jones movies, etc.) influence. Either that or she drew from many of the same sources as Williams (Holst, Wagner, Stravinsky, etc.) The rest of the music of these three CDs are some pop songs and instrumentals (some inspired by various ethnic forms such as Indian music and others of a more electronic nature making use of some interesting production ideas). Some tracks even have a Steve Reich influence. 4. Maaya Sakamoto - Grapefruits A solo Japanese pop album by the voice actress of the main character from Vision Of Escaflowne. This features the more pop-oriented writing of Yoko Kanno, who also produced this album. The music makes me occasionally think of Donald Fagen (the "romantic" songwriting half of Steely Dan) or the Beatles when they started producing songs with string and horn sections. The last track is U2-ish. I love Sakamoto's voice. 5. Pat Metheny Group - Imaginary Day This latest album is a real breakthrough for Pat and the gang. 6. Mike Watt - Contemplating The Engine Room Just started listening to this one. It's supposed to be a punk rock opera about three guys in the engine room of a boat. So far I like the sparse production which really brings Watt's bass playing and voice and Nel Cline's mutant jazz-punk guitar to the fore. Cline sounds like Orange County, CA's answer to Mark Ribot or some of these other crazy NYC downtown guitarists. He's definitely got his own sound, though. 7. Gustav Holst - The Planets Never fails to blow me away how much "Mars, Bringer Of War" makes me think of the Death Star (from Star Wars); particularly the scene where Han, Chewie, and the rest of the gang in the Millenium Falcon are being tractor-beamed into the evil Imperial space station. When one listens to Mars and the rest of the piece, it becomes very clear where John Williams got a lot of his ideas. 8. Modest Mussorgsky - Pictures At An Exhibition Not much to say about this classic. 9. Bela Fleck And Friends - Tabula Rasa Bela Fleck jamming with tabla players, a Chinese violin player, and an Indian slide guitarist who plays a guitar with sympathetic strings. He keeps getting called the "John McLaughlin of the banjo" - and this album doesn't help at all since some tracks will remind McLaughlin fans of Shakti - but I get the feeling he's not trying to imitate McLaughlin at all. He just happens to be a fantastically talented player who loves music in all its forms and isn't afraid to do a lot of genre hopping and to do it with style. So what if he does a lot of odd-meter stuff on this CD and on the Bela Fleck and the Flecktones albums? :) Lots of great interaction between Fleck and the other musicians. 10. Al Green - Greatest Hits Yeah, the beer commercial ("Still In Love With You") prompted me to pick this one up. Because of my past snobbery, I missed out on a lot of good R&B like this one. I love Green's voice. Paolo Valladolid --------------------------------------------------------------- |Moderator of Digital Guitar Digest, an Internet mailing list |\ |for Music Technology and Stringed Instruments | \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- | \ finger pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu for more info \ | \ http://waynesworld.ucsd.edu/DigitalGuitar/home.html \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:45:29 -0600 From: Tom Spaulding < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: A (Less) Brief Word From Obi-ville Message-Id: <<97Nov21.164554cst.26890@gateway.gibson.com> Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Erik writes: When will EDP's be available? I would like to know. <<<<<<<< Erik- Yes, I understood Miguel's question. I also understand your question. Here's the response I think you want to hear: I believe/guess/hope/assume within the next 45-60 days we will be shipping Echoplexes. Here's why that response could be completely false, although it may still be thrown in my face, regardless: Assuming that you may already have one on order, depending the date that your Dealer ordered it from us and/or the date we actually entered it in our system, and whether everyone above your Dealer on the backorder list still wants their backordered units, and assuming your Dealer is not on Credit Hold at the time of shipment, or on vacation, or at the January NAMM show and not accepting shipments, or just got a shipment of DigiTech stuff and can't afford the Echoplexes this week/month, and we have no production glitches to fix once the units get here and we test them, and it safely ships from here to the Dealer, and we get footswitches at the same time (provided we fulfill the dozen or so backorders we have from shipping Echoplexes without footswitches),... These are some of the variables that I have to take into account when I give possible shipping dates, and why I am not anxious to do so. However, I have asked all of our District Sales Managers (all 30 of 'em) in every territory to forward me the name and number of any Dealer in their territory that has one in stock. I am guessing that somewhere, in some small market in America, an Echoplex or two sits on the stockroom shelf, waiting for a customer to buy it. If I get a response from the DSM's, I will post the names on this list.This will at least give any interested parties a chance to get an Echoplex before the next production run ships. More than that, I'm not sure what I can do at the moment... Thank you, (which BTW is often seen in the company of "Please"):) Tom >>>> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:42:11 +0000 From: Jeff Schwartz < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Nels Cline Message-ID: <<34761C53.3ACD@bgnet.bgsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm glad Paolo brought up Nels Cline, one of my favorite musicians and a master of the EH 16 second delay. I don't know if I'd call him a looper, he uses the delay mostly like Frisell used to (on say, Power Tools), to timestretch or reverse a phrase while it's decaying, to build clouds of noise for endings and transitions, and to get big throbbing Sonic Youth-like dissonances with one guitar in standard tuning. So now I'm going to babble about his music. Here are some records he's on besides the new Mike Watt. Mike Watt-Ballhog or Tugboat? Julius Arthur Hemphill & The JAH Band-Georgia Blue Nels Cline Trio- Silencer, Ground, Chest The Vinny Golia Quintet-Nation of Laws, Against the Grain, Razor Live from the Knitting Factory (I forget which volume) Nels Cline & Thurston Moore-Pillow Wands, In-Store The Geraldine Fibbers-Butch Nels Cline-Angelica also albums by Alex Cline, Brad Dutz, Quartet Music. others Ground and Pillow Wands are my current favorites. The composition and interplay on Ground are mindblowing in their depth and diversity, while Pillow Wands has some of the most beautiful guitar textures I've ever heard. The Vinny Golia albums give Nels tons of space to stretch out in what a smart-ass rock writer would call "post-jazz." Nels' thing (as near as I understand it) is to approach the Sonic Youth big beautiful dissonant blob aesthetic in an incredibly musically literate way at the same time he's attempting a sweet Frisell/Scofield/Metheny thing in a punk way. Like if Greg Ginn, Jim Hall, and Lee Ranaldo were all the same person... Anyway, check him out. -- Jeff Schwartz jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~jeffs/main.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:50:16 -0500 (EST) From: BlkSwan03@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Controller pedal Message-ID: <<971121235016_1314821068@mrin40.mail.aol.com> Neil, if you're in Portland OR (and I think you are) Apple music is selling out their supply of Digitech CC pedals. I forgot the model name but it's a simple pedal that allows you to switch (with a rotary pot) to whatever CC number you wish to effect. Apple just didn't sell any of these to anyone. Not too many people were interested. I bought one a long time ago for my Morpheus. It was not a good match cause the pedal caused notes to stick and everything had to be shut down and restarted. But maybe it will work OK with other things. (I remain wary tho) Still, they are selling them cheap and it could be worth a shot. MC 2 is what they are called. I called both Digitech and the Canadian manufacturer and both plead complete ignorance on the note sticking problem. It also hung up notes on my JV1080. A friend of mine bought the ART midi pedal board and had no problems of the sort I mentioned. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:53:22 -0800 From: "Stephen P. Goodman" < To: < Subject: Re: Non-Guitarist Loopers Message-ID: <<01bcf71b$b4c94c00$0722dacf@sgoodman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Kata Mark@asisoftware.com inquired: >Hey, what are all of you non-guitarist loopers up to in your technical and ideological approaches to looping? Especially those of you playing cello, theremin, percussion, etc. >From my "non-guitarist" standpoint, most of the differences between technique have to do with the line levels and other mix settings. I try to treat all the elements of a piece with equal importance, yes? Stephen Goodman * Download The Loop Of The Week and more! EarthLight Studios * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios *--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:24:38 +0000 From: malhomme < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: fernandes sustainer Message-ID: <<3476CF03.72BF@infobiogen.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I personnaly use the thing on my main guitar (with VG-8). I use it very often to sustain whole chords. I agree that after a time (about 10 seconds) if you play a xhord with b9, #11 and whatever, it tends to resolve on the triad. But 10 seconds... that's time, besides there are technical ways (fingers technique, I mean) wich are not different of the finger technique used to have sustain in normal situation (ie, w/out sustainer). The sustainer won't do everything. You REALLY have to play the guitar. Not just strum a few strings and let ring. Olivier Malhomme ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:36:57 +0000 From: malhomme < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: was occult loop Message-ID: <<3476D1E6.4684@infobiogen.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's an interesting thread about others sides of music than usual listener-player interaction. I did 3 years ago, a set of looped pieces ofr guitar, for an institution working with autistic children. The idea behind was, since they are extremely resilient to changes, and since part of the autistic syndrom is an unability for the brain to process information from different sources at the same time (like associating a noise with a picture, or whatever...), looping music might be an interesting thing. I had quite very slowly evolving little loops (2 seconds). Alas, it did not have any effect, nor draw any attention. I tried, eh! Olivier Malhomme ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:02:45 +0000 From: malhomme < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Jamman Message-ID: <<3476D7F2.7EC8@infobiogen.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I got it! I posted this on Sat. Dont know of status >>>>>>>?Anyone looking for ***New*** Jam Man in box? Price $288! - Music >>>>>>>Warehouse >>Louisville Ky (502)-456 -4730 . Somebody grab it ! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:15:49 +0000 From: malhomme < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: AAAAERRRGGGH Message-ID: <<3476DB01.B09@infobiogen.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg, help! I've got a new problem with the vortex! The higher the feedback gets, the lower the delay is. with a feedback of 64, there no delay anymore. It is completely silent! And it goes gradually . with a feed back of 1 (assuming the echo level is to the max) the delay and the input have the same volume. Any hints/tips, whatever (like a magic combination of switch on the machine that would restore it to its functions?) Olivier Malhomme ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:24:20 +0100 From: hovard@online.no To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Nels Cline Message-Id: <<3.0.32.19971122132358.0068b738@online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 23:42 21.11.97 +0000, you wrote: >I'm glad Paolo brought up Nels Cline, one of my favorite >musicians and a master of the EH 16 second delay. I`m sitting here with a feeling that I have heard about Nels Cline before. I think it was a "hometown hero" thingy in Guitar Player/World. Does anyone else remember this? Is Nels Danish , by any chance??? I don't know if I'd call him a looper, he uses the delay mostly >like Frisell used to (on say, Power Tools), to timestretch >or reverse a phrase while it's decaying, to build clouds >of noise for endings and transitions, and to get big >throbbing Sonic Youth-like dissonances with one guitar in >standard tuning. I am a huge Frisell-addict and I`m curious of what "Power Tools" are/is/was? Thanks , Thomas W >So now I'm going to babble about his music. >Here are some records he's on besides the new Mike Watt. >Mike Watt-Ballhog or Tugboat? >Julius Arthur Hemphill & The JAH Band-Georgia Blue >Nels Cline Trio- Silencer, Ground, Chest >The Vinny Golia Quintet-Nation of Laws, Against the Grain, >Razor >Live from the Knitting Factory (I forget which volume) >Nels Cline & Thurston Moore-Pillow Wands, In-Store >The Geraldine Fibbers-Butch >Nels Cline-Angelica >also albums by Alex Cline, Brad Dutz, Quartet Music. >others > >Ground and Pillow Wands are my current favorites. The >composition and interplay on Ground are mindblowing in >their depth and diversity, while Pillow Wands has some of >the most beautiful guitar textures I've ever heard. The >Vinny Golia albums give Nels tons of space to stretch out >in what a smart-ass rock writer would call "post-jazz." >Nels' thing (as near as I understand it) is to approach >the Sonic Youth big beautiful dissonant blob aesthetic in >an incredibly musically literate way at the same time he's >attempting a sweet Frisell/Scofield/Metheny thing in a >punk way. Like if Greg Ginn, Jim Hall, and Lee Ranaldo >were all the same person... >Anyway, check him out. > > >-- >Jeff Schwartz >jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu >http://www.bgsu.edu/~jeffs/main.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 16:22:24 CST From: "Brian L Jackson" < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Controller pedal Message-Id: <<9710228802.AA880210669@ccbbn2.dttus.com> >Message was resent -- Original recipients were: To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------- Anybody have a source for buying a controller pedal (for midi cc and Vortex) at a good price? Thanks Neil ngold@imagina.com Portland, OR USA Neil, Have you tried one of the mail order catalogs, Musicians Friend, Thoroughbred, etc......? They usually have good controllers for both of these applications at good prices. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 16:22:24 CST From: "Brian L Jackson" < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Controller pedal Message-Id: <<9710228802.AA880210672@ccbbn1.dttus.com> >Message was resent -- Original recipients were: To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------- Anybody have a source for buying a controller pedal (for midi cc and Vortex) at a good price? Thanks Neil ngold@imagina.com Portland, OR USA Neil, Have you tried one of the mail order catalogs, Musicians Friend, Thoroughbred, etc......? They usually have good controllers for both of these applications at good prices. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 14:07:57 CST From: "Brian L Jackson" < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re[2]: Haible Juergen's Top ten list Message-Id: <<9710228802.AA880202787@ccbbn5.dttus.com> >>> quote >>> > Roger Waters, "Amused to death". > One of the best "Pink Floyd" albums (;->). Unbelievable that I had > refused to hear it for many years, because of the split, and because > of negative critics. What a mistake. <<<<<< end quote <<<<<< Well, this is much off topic (or is it?), but I heard a "rumor" that Gilmour and Waters are getting back together. I'm sure everyone else is having the same reaction I did, "Yeah, right....". We shall see. Anyway, thought I'd just drop a line from the darkside. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:24:31 +0100 From: hovard@online.no To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Say it out loud , I`m a geek and... Message-Id: <<3.0.32.19971122142318.006866e4@online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi , folks! I have a gear question (sorry Kim ,I need this). A year back I bought a secondhand Roland SRE 555 Chorus Echo. A friend of mine had just bought one and his was amazing; no noise ,no tape flutter and it looked mint. Needless to say, mine sucks. The reverb is dead , noise is plentiful and the echo is destroyed by a stuttering/fluttering which makes it useless. And I mean destroyed , not like a minor problem "like one must expect" from an analog tape-delay. No , something is really wrong and its killing me! "why wait a year before fixing it?" I hear you muttering, beneath the tape hiss. Coz I have been in a state of emotional and physical apathy. Picture this: young boy moves to the big city , and after settling in comes across a genuine tape-echo , the machine of his dreams!! After parting with his hard-borrowed money he takes his Holy Grail home by subway and foot. It was a dark and rainy night , my friends. Moist and cold , his trembling hands struggled to keep the Coveted One out of harms way. Aah , I was so naive! I did not remember the One and True Rule of Tape Echos: They have a mind of their own , they have temperament , If you mess with them they WILL retaliate! As I stumbled home , this strange feeling come in over me. Like a dark force had taken control , saying ; "Now you are mine...all mine". I heard laughter echoing across the hills as I ran the through the door. When I plugged it in and waited for Terje Rypdal to materialize I tought; "We`ll see who has the last laugh,he he!" It was if the 555 looked up at me and said "who needs digital , anyway?" I laughed out loud. Then I heard the gurgled sounds that came out , and I haven`t laughed since. I fell into an abyss , all energy and willpower sucked out. I went school , practised , played in bands , made polite conversation , but inside I was hollow. An empty shell. I spent the following months slowly returning to life , rebuilding my personality , waiting for the day that I could walk on stage and play through my Roland SRE 555. Then I found you. The last piece fell into place. The color returned to my cheeks , strenght was restored , hope revived. I was suddenly able to confront the problems, ask the questions that needed to be asked. Like , "how does one clean the tape-heads?" . Or rather, "Where are the tape-heads?". But most of all , "what the heck is a tape head?" . I found myself pondering over those eternal questions ; "Can I fix the reverb?" , "Is there a site on the net devoted to Tape-delays?" , "Where can I get new tapes?" And of course , this is where you fellow loopers come in. Now you have a unique chance to help someone , do something that matters, make a change in the world! My destiny rests in your mailbox , may it not go unnoticed. Yours truly, Thomas W ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:23:03 +0200 From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Canadian Loopers???? Message-Id: < Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello neighbors, I need help locating a CD. It is "Ayaya Moses" by the Fred Frith Guitar Quartet. It has been released on a Canadian label Ambiances Magnetiques. My usual contacfts in the Washington DC area have not been able to locate this. Many Thanks, Patrick *** *** ** Fingerpaint http://www.his.com/~patrick/FNGP.html *** ** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 16:42:36 CST From: "Brian L Jackson" < To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: My Top Ten + Gear Message-Id: <<9710228802.AA880215002@ccbbn1.dttus.com> Well, since its too damn hard to come up with my top ten albums of all time, I'll list the Top Ten Cds of the week....... 1. Spiritualized "Pure Phase" 2. Stereolab "Emperor Tomato Ketchup" actually I'd recommend getting anything that has Spiritualized or Stereolab anywhere on it. Stereolabs new album "Dots and Loops" is a collection of loops the band had done. They just arranged them in workable song orders and added. Phenomenal. 3. Jimi Hendrix "Band of Gypsies" 4. De La Soul "Buhloone Mindstate" 5. The Roots "Do You Want More" 6. the Charlatans "Tellin' Stories" 7. Boo Radleys "Giant Steps" 8. The Smiths "the Smiths" 9. Stone Roses "Stone Roses" 10. Smashing Pumpkins "Box set" As far as gear goes: I've been looping my guitar through a JMP-1, into an Alesis Microverb 3 (my Quadraverb 2 is on loan, and has been for way too long), used to go through my Vortex at this point, but its gone:(, into a Jamman. I also have a MPC2000 that I use for drum tracks and samples. I either start the loop off with a drum sequence using Midi Clock to sync to the Jamman or vice versa. I'm just doing this until I can get a hard disk recorder, probably the new Akai DSP12. Looping is great, but I'd love to be able to expand on the loops. Too bad the Jamman doesn't store them. If I really dig a loop, I've been sampling it to the MPC2000. SO, what is everyone else's looping technique, equipment? Brian --------------------------------