------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 212 Today's Topics: Re: Nels Cline [ Jeff Schwartz ] Re: quadraverb questions!!!?? [ "Stephen P. Goodman" ] Re: bye for now... [ paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, ] Re: Say it out loud , I`m a geek and [ Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Nels Cline Message-ID: <3476A679.7098@bgnet.bgsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hovard@online.no wrote: > I`m sitting here with a feeling that I have heard about Nels Cline before. > I think it was a "hometown hero" thingy in Guitar Player/World. > Does anyone else remember this? Is Nels Danish , by any chance??? Guitar Player had a short profile on Nels in the 12/97 issue. I don't know why they didn't put him (or Fripp, Frisell, Frith, Derek Bailey, etc.) on the cover instead of a montage of classic rock players hyping a story that's nothing but a list of gear (and Kim thought WE were nerds? "30 Tones that Changed the World (and How to Get Them)" is the cover story for the last issue of your 30th anniversary year?) > > I am a huge Frisell-addict and I`m curious of what "Power Tools" are/is/was? > Power Tools was a band who made a cool album on the Antilles label called Strange Meeting. Bill, Melvin Gibbs, Ronald Shannon Jackson. Out of print, but not impossible to find. Probably the most aggressive (w/o the pomo distance of say, Naked City) work Bill's done. Reminds me of live Hendrix a lot of the time in that the guitar and drums are playing very busy back and forth, while the bass is trying to hold some kind of center-not that that's not cool, you could apply the same description to a lot of live Coltrane, and Melvin Gibbs is a formidable bassist who's way more versatile than Noel Redding was... blah blah blah. Get the album. You won't regret it, if you're a Frisell fan. -- Jeff Schwartz jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~jeffs/main.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 16:42:36 CST From: "Brian L Jackson" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: My Top Ten + Gear Message-Id: <9710228802.AA880214996@ccbbn5.dttus.com> Well, since its too damn hard to come up with my top ten albums of all time, I'll list the Top Ten Cds of the week....... 1. Spiritualized "Pure Phase" 2. Stereolab "Emperor Tomato Ketchup" actually I'd recommend getting anything that has Spiritualized or Stereolab anywhere on it. Stereolabs new album "Dots and Loops" is a collection of loops the band had done. They just arranged them in workable song orders and added. Phenomenal. 3. Jimi Hendrix "Band of Gypsies" 4. De La Soul "Buhloone Mindstate" 5. The Roots "Do You Want More" 6. the Charlatans "Tellin' Stories" 7. Boo Radleys "Giant Steps" 8. The Smiths "the Smiths" 9. Stone Roses "Stone Roses" 10. Smashing Pumpkins "Box set" As far as gear goes: I've been looping my guitar through a JMP-1, into an Alesis Microverb 3 (my Quadraverb 2 is on loan, and has been for way too long), used to go through my Vortex at this point, but its gone:(, into a Jamman. I also have a MPC2000 that I use for drum tracks and samples. I either start the loop off with a drum sequence using Midi Clock to sync to the Jamman or vice versa. I'm just doing this until I can get a hard disk recorder, probably the new Akai DSP12. Looping is great, but I'd love to be able to expand on the loops. Too bad the Jamman doesn't store them. If I really dig a loop, I've been sampling it to the MPC2000. SO, what is everyone else's looping technique, equipment? Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:18:05 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Controller pedal Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Neil, if you're in Portland OR (and I think you are) Apple music is selling >out their supply of Digitech CC pedals. I forgot the model name but it's a >simple pedal that allows >you to switch (with a rotary pot) to whatever CC number you wish to effect. > Apple just didn't sell any of these to anyone. Not too many people were >interested. I bought one a long time ago for my Morpheus. It was not a good >match cause the pedal caused notes to stick and everything had to be shut >down and restarted. But maybe it will work OK with other things. (I remain >wary tho) Still, they are selling them cheap and it could be worth a shot. > MC 2 is what they are called. I called both Digitech and the Canadian >manufacturer and both plead complete ignorance on the note sticking problem. > It also hung up notes on my JV1080. A friend of mine bought the ART midi >pedal board and had no problems of the sort I mentioned. > >Jim Actually, I've gone through 2 MC 2 pedals, had various bizarre MIDI transmission problems with both of them, I'm not particularly impressed with them as a product. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:31:25 -0800 From: "Eric R. Fischer" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Top tens Message-ID: <347716EC.11CE@artnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ditto on the Steroelab and Spiritualized! more essential listening as of late: Tool - Ænima -dark intelligent metal. Truelly an "Album" Radiohead - OK Computer - obvious choice for album of the year The Residents - Our Poor, Our Tired, Our Huddled Masses - 4 cd recap of thier jawdropping carrer. The Azuza Plane -Tycho Magnetic Anomality - great ambient textures Deep Purple - Machine Head 25th anniversery 2lp set on Purple vinyl - the whole album twice, one remastered and one remixed with alternate solos! Forgot how brilliant this was Gus Gus - Iclandic technoish? Lamb - Beautiful jazzy techno duo Bill Bruford & Ralph Towner (w/Eddie Gomez) - if Summer Had It's Ghosts - Nice jazz. A little stiff, but you can't beat Towners 12 str. playing. Stphen Micus - The Music Of Stones - ECM record from '89 -huge carved resonant stones played with mallets in a cathedral. Must be heard to be believed. Sylvian/Fripp - Still can't get past this record. Everything King Crimson should have been Sorry to jump on a thread late! Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:36:07 -0500 From: cdeupree@interagp.com (Caleb Deupree) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Canadian Loopers???? Message-ID: <19971122173603625.AAA217@hafler> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:23 AM 11/22/97 +0200, you wrote: > >I need help locating a CD. It is "Ayaya Moses" by the Fred Frith Guitar >Quartet. It has been released on a Canadian label Ambiances Magnetiques. My >usual contacfts in the Washington DC area have not been able to locate >this. > Wayside, among others, carries the label. http://members.aol.com/Cuneiform2/cuneiform.html -- Caleb T. Deupree cdeupree@interagp.com, or cdeupree@erinet.com ;; For every complex question there is a simple answer. ;; And it is wrong. (H. L. Mencken) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:41:38 -0500 (EST) From: andre To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: quadraverb questions!!!?? Message-Id: <199711221741.MAA25753@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hey all.... anyone have a alesis quadraverb out there??? any thoughts??? pros/cons...? etc i mostly wanna know whether or not it suffers from that annoying msec delay when you cahnge programs via midi - some devices do, some don't - that delay as the software change kicks in, you know...? pls let me know anyting else about the unit - i have a chace to buy one - also what's a good ballpark proce. i know there are updated quads and the quad GT, but this is what is here, now. thanks in advance for any help, info!! andre' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:23:10 -0800 From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Re: quadraverb questions!!!?? Message-ID: <01bcf773$b002bb40$5122dacf@sgoodman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: andre >anyone have a alesis quadraverb out there??? any thoughts??? pros/cons...? etc > >i mostly wanna know whether or not it suffers from that annoying msec delay >when you cahnge programs via midi - some devices do, some don't - that >delay as the software change kicks in, you know...? pls let me know anyting >else about the unit - i have a chace to buy one - also what's a good >ballpark proce. i know there are updated quads and the quad GT, but this is >what is here, now. I have a Quadraverb Plus - an original Quadraverb, with a firmware upgrade that apparently made it a 'plus'. I've never controlled it with midi, except with a package that was more of a patch editor than anything else... Mostly I've used a foot pedal to switch patches sequentially if I needed to. I love the unit though, it's very quiet, and when I have a noisy source, it's easy to attenuate through it. I use it on all my work, actually. :) Well, it's the only other rack unit I've got besides my DigiTech 7.6... Stephen Goodman * Download The Loop Of The Week and more! EarthLight Studios * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios *--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:35:09 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Nels Cline Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 1:24 PM 11/22/97, hovard@online.no wrote: >I am a huge Frisell-addict and I`m curious of what "Power Tools" are/is/was? > Power Tools is trio record with Frisell, Melvin Gibbs on bass guitar and Ronald Shannon Jackson on drums, recorded in the mid to late 80's, '86 maybe? (sorry I don't have more specific info, my copy is loaned out at the moment). It's a very fine record, but I understand it is out of print. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:51:20 -0600 From: Grover Sheffield To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: fernandes sustainer Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971122185120.00694074@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings... Any loopers or other fingerstyle guitarist/jazz players in city of Paris, France that I could connect with November 26-December 1, 1997? Any other recommendations for catching local musicians (I speak little to no french yet!)? TIA Grover > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 15:21:28 -0500 (EST) From: Steven Dubofsky To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: quadraverb questions!!!?? Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, andre wrote: > hey all.... > > anyone have a alesis quadraverb out there??? any thoughts??? pros/cons...? etc I use a QV GT and love it. Honestly I can't think of any cons except the delays don't sync to midi clocks. > > i mostly wanna know whether or not it suffers from that annoying msec delay > when you cahnge programs via midi - some devices do, some don't - that > delay as the software change kicks in, you know...? pls let me know anyting > else about the unit - i have a chace to buy one - also what's a good > ballpark proce. i know there are updated quads and the quad GT, but this is > what is here, now. There's a delay for sure. The older GT's can be found under $200 US. I got mine for $125. steve d Skullsaw may cause irritation and watering of the eyes. DO NOT use Skullsaw if pregnant. Studies show Skullsaw may be habit forming. Consult your physician. http://www.gti.net/skullsaw ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:29:39 -0400 From: paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Ph.D.) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: bye for now... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok Jim ... let me know what is happening ... and if I can help you >Hi all, > >Due to work circumstances, I must temporarilly unsubscribe from Loopers >Delight. Normally I wouldn't consider my departure of such import, but for >those of you who are anticipating my organization of the Mid-Atlantic Loop >Show, I assure you that I am still good to go on it! I have your names and >addresses and will be contacting you soon, I hope. > >Jim Speer >Philadelphia Paul Poplawski, Ph.D. email = ppoplawski@state.de.us or paulpop@ssnet.com phone service = 302/737-4491 weekday office = 302/577-4980 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:11:54 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Say it out loud , I`m a geek and... Message-Id: <199711222211.RAA08700@cliff.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:24 PM 11/22/97 +0100, you wrote: > > >Hi , folks! I have a gear question (sorry Kim ,I need this). > >A year back I bought a secondhand Roland SRE 555 Chorus Echo. A friend of >mine had just bought one and his was amazing; no noise ,no tape flutter and >it looked mint. Needless to say, mine sucks. The reverb is dead , noise is >plentiful and the echo is destroyed by a stuttering/fluttering which makes >it useless. And I mean destroyed , not like a minor problem "like one must >expect" from an analog tape-delay. No , something is really wrong and its >killing me! "why wait a year before fixing it?" I hear you muttering, >beneath the tape hiss. Coz I have been in a state of emotional and physical >apathy. Picture this: young boy moves to the big city , and after settling >in comes across a genuine tape-echo , the machine of his dreams!! After >parting with his hard-borrowed money he takes his Holy Grail home by subway >and foot. It was a dark and rainy night , my friends. Moist and cold , his >trembling hands struggled to keep SNIP needs digital , anyway?" I >laughed out loud. Then I heard the gurgled sounds that came out , and I >haven`t laughed since. >I fell into an abyss , all energy and willpower sucked out. I went school , >practised , played in bands , made polite conversation , but inside I was >hollow. An empty shell. >I spent the following months slowly returning to life , rebuilding my >personality , waiting for the day that I could walk on stage and play >through my Roland SRE 555. > >Then I found you. > >The last piece fell into place. The color returned to my cheeks , strenght >was restored , hope revived. I was suddenly able to confront the problems, >ask the questions that needed to be asked. Like , "how does one clean the >tape-heads?" . Or rather, "Where are the tape-heads?". But most of all , >"what the heck is a tape head?" . I found myself pondering over those >eternal questions ; "Can I fix the reverb?" , "Is there a site on the net >devoted to Tape-delays?" , "Where can I get new tapes?" And of course , >this is where you fellow loopers come in. Now you have a unique chance to >help someone , do something that matters, make a change in the world! > >My destiny rests in your mailbox , may it not go unnoticed. > >Yours truly, Thomas W > > > > > Thomas: I went through the same thing, 'cept it was my girlfriend, not my tape delay. Your poignant narrative makes my experience seem shallow by comparison ;) " A Boy and his Roland". Tonight, I'll say a little prayer for you, man. drone on~~~~~~~~~~Tom Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:31:37 -0500 From: klaw@iglou.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Power Tools Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > >Power Tools was a band who made a cool album on the >Antilles label called Strange Meeting. Bill, Melvin Gibbs, >Ronald Shannon Jackson. Out of print, but not impossible >to find. Probably the most aggressive (w/o the pomo >distance of say, Naked City) work Bill's done. Reminds me >of live Hendrix a lot of the time in that the guitar and >drums are playing very busy back and forth, while the bass >is trying to hold some kind of center-not that that's not >cool, you could apply the same description to a lot of >live Coltrane, and Melvin Gibbs is a formidable bassist >who's way more versatile than Noel Redding was... blah >hovard@online.no >wrote: > >> Power tools also did continue after Bill left with Pete Cosey( Miles ) >>taking filling the big man's shoes . As you can imagine the sound of this >>band changed considerably . I think Cosey played abit of G synth along >>with some keybrd work. The only recorded document of this line up that I >>know of is a live Knitting Factory radio show tape. >> Nels is cool > Ive seen him a few times in Santa Monica where he hosts a >>improvisational music series every monday night.Must be on hiatus now - >>He played here last week with Mike Watt. K Law ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:35:12 -0500 (EST) From: ANET@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I'm Volunteering!!!!!! Message-ID: <971122173512_1738730579@mrin51.mail.aol.com> All musican's seem to sometimes loose track of what we're up to, sounds like the CD project guy did that. Glad to see a little faith that his intentions were good. Suspect that he can be found. Where could I find out more about the project and possibly contribute? P.S. Any acoustic guitar loopers out there? I'll be putting up a web site for acoustic guitars soon. Let me know.l Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 12:17:37 CST From: "Brian L Jackson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re[2]: I'm Volunteering!!!!!! Message-Id: <9710228802.AA880245722@ccbbn1.dttus.com> Go for it Matt! I think its a great idea. It would really shed some light on the different styles of this list and the different ways people are utilizing their equipment/imaginations. What kind of format would we need our loops to be on in order for this compilation. Any ideas? Brian > From: Kim Flint > >And how about our own sample CD or label? > > There was the cd project from long ago, but the guy organizing it > disappeared. Anybody want to take a project like that? Or maybe we even set > up RealAudio sites? Anything is possible. I hereby volunteer to organize the CD project. Uhh....should we take a vote? I freelance at a local studio and therefore have FREE (I didn't say that) access to various pieces of recording gear that will come in handy for compiling submissions (ProTools, ADAT, DAT, etc). Heck, I can even process credit card orders should we wish to release the CD to the world and make MILLIONS....errrr....spread the good word (you know, Looping). I'll wait for the official stamp of approval before proceeding. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:46:24 -0600 From: Grover Sheffield To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I'm Volunteering!!!!!! Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971122234624.00684ba8@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:35 PM 11/22/97 -0500, you wrote: >P.S. Any acoustic guitar loopers out there? I'll be putting up a web site >for acoustic >guitars soon. Let me know.l > >Thanks! I play acoustic, but am waiting for the EP to come out before I start looping, so keep me in touch! Grover ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:14:48 +0100 From: hovard@online.no To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Say it out loud , I`m a geek and... Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971123041446.006a264c@online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Thomas: > >I went through the same thing, 'cept it was my girlfriend, not my tape >delay. Your poignant narrative makes my experience seem shallow by >comparison ;) > >" A Boy and his Roland". Tonight, I'll say a little prayer for you, man. > >drone on~~~~~~~~~~Tom >Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net > Hey Tom! Good to see someone understanding the tragedy of all this. So show me some respect , I know what pain is! :) I`ll let you know when I`m fully restored and on my feet....... Thomas > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 21:25:01 -0600 From: "Mikell D. Nelson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Message-ID: <3477A20D.6EA3@dmans.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Can you give me some information about "BOOMERANG PHRASE SAMPLER". > What is it's quality if coompared with Jam Man? The Boomerang is a 17"x6"x2" floor pedal made of 18 gauge steel and painted with epoxy catalized paint. It uses computer technology not "bucket brigade" analog chips. Back panel has main in & out (1/4" phone), aux in & out (RCA), mic/line/inst switch with trim pot. You can place this unit anywhere you want in the signal path. The power supply is a 9VAC 500mA transformer (wall wart). Sampling specs: 16 bit samples, linear PCM, no compression, 16K and 8K sampling rates. Obviously not CD quality, but a subjective spec is that this unit sounds very good with guitar, bass or vocals. I use mine with a GR50 guitar synth and like the sound. We have sold over 1000 units, and have heard sound quality complaints from about 4 or 5 people. There are players who performs solo with a Rang and an acoustic guitar and love it. We have violinist, cellists, vocalists, trombone players, sax players, and, of course, electric bass and guitar players using the Rang. Most complaints come from people using synthesizers. Daniel Lanois (guitar) used one on two tracks for the Slingblade soundtrack, and Steve Tavaglioni (sax & wind synth) used one extensively on the Red Corner soundtrack. The Rang records, loops, stacks many parts (I do 3 to 6 routinely), plays in reverse, plays at half speed (learn licks off of CD's or create bass parts), plays at double speed, and plays reverse leads LIVE. When stacking parts, each part may be forward or reverse; then, when a musical creation is complete, the whole thing can be played forward or reverse. The live reverse lead feature is unique and cool. The Rang records and plays simultaneously, turning each phrase or lick around. If you turn off the normal signal from your instrument (the THRU MUTE switch on the Rang), then the audience hears only the reverse part. The Rang has no MIDI capability, so if remote triggering or synching to a drum machine is important, then it may not be for you. The Jam Dude has MIDI. Check our web page. Best regards, Mike Nelson, co-owner Boomerang Musical Products PO Box 541595 Dallas, TX 75354-1595 Tel 800-530-4699 (outside USA, 214-340-6913) Fax 214-343-1038 email mnelson@dmans.com web page http://www.boomerangmusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:19:18 +0100 From: hovard@online.no To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Nels Cline Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971123041917.006a5590@online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey ,everybody who followed the little tread about Niels Cline ; I was over at Guitar Player online and checked out what the next issue contained , and whaddya know , "Niels Cline details the life of a double method guitarist" (?). I can`t wait to read it......Now if I could just locate a cd of him here in No(r)way........ Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:41:33 +0000 From: Jeff Schwartz To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Power Tools/Nels Cline (not much looping content) Message-ID: <34775F9D.184D@bgnet.bgsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit klaw@iglou.com wrote: > >> Power tools also did continue after Bill left with Pete Cosey( Miles ) > >>taking filling the big man's shoes . As you can imagine the sound of this > >>band changed considerably . I think Cosey played abit of G synth along > >>with some keybrd work. The only recorded document of this line up that I > >>know of is a live Knitting Factory radio show tape. > Who's got a copy of this? I'm a freak for Pete Cosey's playing & want to hear as much as I can. Here's what I know of: Muddy Waters-Electric Mud Miles Davis-Agharta, Pangea, Dark Magus, Get Up with It, En Concert avec Europe1, Call it what it is, Berlin '73, Another Bitches Brew Mtume-Rebirth Cycle Herbie Hancock-Future Shock I know there was a Howlin' Wolf Electric Wolf album, don't know if Pete was on it, but I think so. So is that it? The entire Pete Cosey discography? > >> Nels is cool > Ive seen him a few times in Santa Monica where he hosts a > >>improvisational music series every monday night.Must be on hiatus now - > >>He played here last week with Mike Watt. > > K Law That's cool. I though Joe Bazia (from Universal Congress Of & The Mecolodiacs) was doing the Watt tour cuz Nels was out with the Geraldine Fibbers. I'll be in L.A. next week & will get the story on New Music Monday at the Alligator Lounge (the hippest scene in L.A.). -- Jeff Schwartz jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~jeffs/main.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 21:23:36 -0800 From: Sean Echevarria To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: jamman on rec.music.makers.marketplace Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971122212336.00a00100@global.california.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" this was on usenet - it's not mine - don't email me From: flatnine@tiac.net (Sandro Scoccia) Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.marketplace Subject: FS Lexicon JamMan Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:06:36 -0500 Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. http://www.ultranet.com/ Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: d6.dial-2.met.ma.ultra.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@ultra.net X-Ultra-Time: 23 Nov 1997 05:03:02 GMT X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Lexicon Jamman for sale. the best offer by December 6 takes it, I'll pay the shipping anywhere in the US. make an offer at: flatnine@tiac.net --------------------------------