------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 214 Today's Topics: Pete Cosey [ Dave Stagner ] looping and Punk@!%!! [ David Kirkdorffer ] nels in guitar player! [ hovard@online.no ] Re: looping and Punk@!%!! [ djdowling@earthlink.net ] nels in Guitar Player! [ hovard@online.no ] Re: andy summers show... [ JT ] Looping with a band. [ hovard@online.no ] Re: andy summers show... [ andre ] Re: looping and Punk@!%!! [ jprice@intcpi.com (John Price) ] RE: On being complete nerds (and lon [ Laurie Hatch ] Re: wonder if there is another frenc [ "nicomonguzzi" ] switchers [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pyc ] Re: Brainwave Synch [ ZeplinSoup@aol.com ] Re: looping and Punk@!%!! [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ] RE: Looping with a Band [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) ] Re: Looping with a Band [ "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Pete Cosey Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Jeff Schwartz wrote: > Who's got a copy of this? I'm a freak for Pete Cosey's > playing & want to hear as much as I can. Here's what I > know of: > Muddy Waters-Electric Mud > Miles Davis-Agharta, Pangea, Dark Magus, Get Up with It, > En Concert avec Europe1, Call it what it is, Berlin '73, > Another Bitches Brew > Mtume-Rebirth Cycle > Herbie Hancock-Future Shock > I know there was a Howlin' Wolf Electric Wolf album, don't > know if Pete was on it, but I think so. > So is that it? The entire Pete Cosey discography? Guitar Player had an interview with Pete Cosey some years ago, after he replaced Bill Frissell in Power Tools. He talked about the Electric Mud and Electric Wolf albums... apparently, Muddy Waters was a little weirded out by the Electric Mud idea (a psychedelic rock band backing Muddy Waters), but he was a nice guy about it, and the record sold well. So the label wanted to do Electric Wolf next, with Howlin' Wolf. Now, Howlin' Wolf has been called many things, but "nice" ain't one of them. Now, this was the late 1960s, and Cosey had the full psychedelic look and sound going. After the first session, Howlin' Wolf walked up to him and said "Why don't you take them pedals and shit and throw 'em in the river on the way to the barbershop?" Cosey was *crushed*. Everything he stood for had just been ground under Howlin' Wolf's shoes with a single sentence. Some story, huh? And yes, I'm a HUGE Cosey fan! Although not a looper type (at least not the stuff I've heard), he was one of the most creative and powerful psychedelic guitarists EVER. Find a copy of Miles Davis' "Agharta" or "Phaedra". You won't be sorry. I consider those discs the end of Miles' career... what he did in the 1980s just doesn't count. Another audiophile historic note... Cosey had a unique role in Miles' band. Miles Davis, of course, was a genius at finding powerful players and making the most of them in a group setting. At the time, Miles was heavily into funk and West African music. His lineup consisted of an African percussionist, rock drummer, electric bass, and wah-wah funk guitar in the rhythm section, holding down powerful one and two-chord vamps and grooves, while the soloists blew over the top. The interesting thing about Cosey was that he NEVER practiced with the band. Mile's orders. He only played with them live. His playing was so startling, so *out*, that his presence changed the very nature of the band. Using him as a live soloist and texturalist kept the band on their toes. It also shows just how much Miles Davis respected his playing. Anyway... if you like heavy funk grooves and profoundly psychedelic guitar, check out the Miles/Cosey work. Don't expect some nice happy dance funk here... this work is as dark and dangerous as the heart of Africa. Beautiful, and awe-inspiring. -dave By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete. Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. Venus De Milo. To a child she is ugly. /* dstagner@icarus.net */ -Charles Fort ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:42:10 -0500 From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'loopers-delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: looping and Punk@!%!! Message-ID: <30C4F9E5EBE1D0118B760000C0DD100F410A13@MAIL> Content-Type: text/plain It's been a hoot reading people's top 10 lists. Certainly, it's nice to know where our ears have been. I noticed very few Punk stylings in the inventories. Now, I'm not trying to say Punk is good or bad nor do I care about definitions much (please, let's not go there...). But - are there any PUNK Loopers out there? David Kirkdorffer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:30:48 -0800 From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Re: looping and Punk@!%!! Message-ID: <01bcf941$c210c280$c23bd4cc@CIS.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Kirkdorffer intoned: >I noticed very few Punk stylings in the inventories. Now, I'm not >trying to say Punk is good or bad nor do I care about definitions much >(please, let's not go there...). > >But - are there any PUNK Loopers out there? That's a curious one, but if you think about the entire image that punk presented, it was one that was fairly minimalist; to say nothing of the fact that during its primary period, there were no rack units of the kind we enjoy so much using, just stomp boxes/pedals. The moment one stopped just raging away and began fiddling with electronics - yes, even a tape loop! - I think it stops being punk, and begins being 'experimental', or any number of monikers we've all been stuck with at one time or another. For this reason, I think, bands like Sonic Youth are mistaken at times for punk. What I'd generally regard as REAL punks - people too busy playing fiercely at just their instruments, snubbing their noses and otherwise giving the Finger to 'established electronic sh*t' - well, maybe it comes from being around New York City (sorry, L.A., it didn't start out West!) at the time. Who knew? But that's just my opinion. Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios EarthLight Productions * Get the Loop Of The Week Free! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:00:03 -0500 From: "Julia & Dave" To: Cc: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Re: effect sends and switchers Message-Id: <199711242255.RAA03847@mail.colba.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for the info. This seems like a sensible solution, but I still wish the mixer manufacturers would take into account the non-miking crowd and today's effect racks. With the prices being what they are for quality processing, I'm sure there are many people out there who own several rack devices. Gone are the days of pedal settups and noisy daisy chaining. Inserts are OK, but what if you want to use the same effect on a few channels at a time? D 4 V 1 D K R 1 5 T 1 4 N jndk@colba.net http://www.total.net/~alien8/Kristian.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:24:55 +0100 From: hovard@online.no To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: nels in guitar player! Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971125002454.0069e60c@online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey ,everybody who followed the little tread about Niels Cline ; I was over at Guitar Player online and checked out what the next issue contained , and whaddya know , "Niels Cline details the life of a double method guitarist" (?). I can`t wait to read it......Now if I could just locate a cd of him here in No(r)way........ Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:48:11 -0500 From: djdowling@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: looping and Punk@!%!! Message-ID: <347A2E5C.740B@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Kirkdorffer wrote: > But - are there any PUNK Loopers out there? At work today I was called a "smart-alec" by a customer on the telephone...I'm sure this makes me some kind of Punk. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:23:33 +0100 From: hovard@online.no To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: nels in Guitar Player! Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971125002332.0069e858@online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Thomas: > >I went through the same thing, 'cept it was my girlfriend, not my tape >delay. Your poignant narrative makes my experience seem shallow by >comparison ;) > >" A Boy and his Roland". Tonight, I'll say a little prayer for you, man. > >drone on~~~~~~~~~~Tom >Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net > Hey Tom! Good to see someone understanding the tragedy of all this. So show me some respect , I know what pain is! :) I`ll let you know when I`m fully restored and on my feet....... Thomas > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:20:26 -0800 From: JT To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: andy summers show... Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971124202026.0069d248@mail.nwlink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:25 PM 11/24/97 GMT, you wrote: >Andre: >>if ANDY Summers is coming to your town on his short (20-25 date) tour of US >>east & west coasts - do go see him - i just saw the (moderately attended) >>wetlands NYC show - first of the tour, and it rocked - or actually, it >>jazzed - Andy's playing a ton of standards, and standards-ish material - his >>new CD with Tony Levin, Gregg Bissonette is awesome, if you like jazz guitar >>with balls and modern tones.... the cd also features on one cut, Bernie >>Dresel(dr) and Jerry Watts (bs) who are his fine touring band.... He opened up for Tangerine Dream during the Optical Race tour. Amazing show. I wasn't sure what to expect, but I was pleased. I haven't kept up with anything he's done since though. jt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:18:43 +0100 From: hovard@online.no To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Looping with a band. Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971125001458.0068c390@online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi , I was just wondering how people go about looping in a band setting , with drummers , chordchanges , dynamic flow in the ensemble and so forth.... Maybe we can start a discussion where people share their experiences and talk about their bands. Like , is there any loopers who play in a pop-band??Say , An Alanis Morrisette- type of thing? How would you go approach your looping instrument in that context? Or a funk band? say , as part of a rythmn section in the "JB" style? How would that player approa.........and so forth..... This could be a way for us to confront problems like Timing , Tonality and Dynamics when working with a set song-structure. (How does one loop in the context of a TOP 40 band?? Is it possible to loop in a top 40 band? Why bother thinking about looping in a top 40 band?? Why am I such a boring writer?) As you may have gathered from my writing , I am not an experienced looper.... hope you`ll give this some tought anyway....and , if possible , discuss it without too much gearhead - mentality .:) Thanks , Thomas W ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:22:43 -0500 (EST) From: andre To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: andy summers show... Message-Id: <199711250522.AAA03636@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ANdy... > >He opened up for Tangerine Dream during the Optical Race tour. Amazing >show. I wasn't sure what to expect, but I was pleased. I haven't kept up >with anything he's done since though. yeah - that WAS a great show!! and quite the surprise - he was added near the start of the tour, it seemed.... i dunno, i've always liked the guy's sound - when you step back and really survey his 30 (!) years of recorded output - it's remarkable - his voice is intact thoughout, yes, even while picking up on the legato/holdsworth edge.. anyway - i guess i like his personal style, sense of humor, both in the music and in interviews, etc. As far as "getting better after the Police" - listen again - remember, the police was POST - university/classical training for Andy, so.... give the "synesthasia" (sic) cd a listen - w/Ginger Baker - a very 20th cent. modern music album at times - and the fripp/summers stuff is seminal. but - i hear what you guys are saying, i'm just a little more of a sucker for anything fusion-y - so - the combo of Andy's floaty chorus sound plus thorny grooves does suck me in... andre' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:42:53 -0500 From: jprice@intcpi.com (John Price) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: looping and Punk@!%!! Message-ID: <347A2D1C.F13@intcpi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Kirkdorffer wrote: > > It's been a hoot reading people's top 10 lists. Certainly, it's nice to > know where our ears have been. > > I noticed very few Punk stylings in the inventories. Now, I'm not > trying to say Punk is good or bad nor do I care about definitions much > (please, let's not go there...). > > But - are there any PUNK Loopers out there? > > David Kirkdorffer Throbbing Gristle immediately springs to mind. Early Caberet Voltaire kinda falls into a category that has its roots in punk. How can anyone forget Alien Sex Fiend. The Butthole Surfers have been looping for years. Ministry certainly springs to mind as the most modern and recent version of Punky Loop stuff ( though today they have turned into more or less a genereic thrash band. ) Remember Controlled Bleeding ??? What about the entire slew of artists you'd find on the Wax Trax Label back in the mid to late 80's - These guys were all punkers or rather punkers with synths and samplers. RaPeman & big black; aka - steve albini looped beats and loud guitars so well Ministry decided to cop his entire sound when they found their guitars and amps in a jungle of roland drum machines. Skinny Puppy, & Naubauten ( spelling ???)& Wire all qualify as groups that came from or out of a Punk Rock Perspective. pUnk died a long time ago, close to 20yrs ago now (1979 and its still being approriated and slammed - probably forever. it seems punks impact is stil felt today. you can reasonably argue both objectively and effectively 2 differing points : punks influence was and is for the either better or the worse of things over the last 20 yrs. Its safe to say Punks impact is still being felt or rather unfolded today though nowhere near the threat, sincerity and vitality that it had while it was really living. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:14:33 -0800 From: Laurie Hatch To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: On being complete nerds (and longhairs) Message-ID: <01BCF92E.DC443280.lahatch@dnai.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean said: >Or Mekong Delta's version? Interesting bunch of guys that never properly >attributed much of the work they released as their own. Hey, thanks for the reference. Wasn't familiar with it - but I definitely want to check it out. In case anyone else is interested, here's a website URL: BNR Metal Pages -- Mekong Delta http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bruss/Metal/groups/MeDe.html laurie At 12:03 PM 11/23/97 -0800, Paolo wrote: >>>...8. Modest Mussorgsky - Pictures At An Exhibition >> >>>Not much to say about this classic. ... [snip] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:41:23 +0100 From: "nicomonguzzi" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: wonder if there is another french person here... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" mais oui, bonjour . je fais des boucle en francais et en italien et je vis a lausanne, mais je suis tessinois. hello everybody, just to say i speech french and italian, so... salut ciao nicos >salut a tous amateurs de boucles de plaisirs > >wouln't the list be more colourful if the greetings were done in our >mother tongue > >ALABIENTOT > >Claude ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:05:35 +0300 From: miguel.barella@poyry.com.br (MAT) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, "nicomonguzzi" Subject: Re[2]: wonder if there is another french person here... Message-ID: <00005F10.4007@poyry.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part A few monthes ago I posted a message in portuguese just to observe the reaction of the group. It was a long comment on Fripp's Let the Power Fall My surprise was that only Matthias answered me privetely asking if it was a mistake. Obviously it was not, as far as I know there is no official language in the list. Miguel ___________________________ Separador de Resposta ______________________________ Assunto: Re: wonder if there is another french person here... Autor: "nicomonguzzi" na internet Data: 25/11/1997 12:41 mais oui, bonjour . je fais des boucle en francais et en italien et je vis a lausanne, mais je suis tessinois. hello everybody, just to say i speech french and italian, so... salut ciao nicos >salut a tous amateurs de boucles de plaisirs > >wouln't the list be more colourful if the greetings were done in our >mother tongue > >ALABIENTOT > >Claude ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:48:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dpcoffin@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: effect sends and switchers Message-ID: <971125104816_-322594309@mrin86.mail.aol.com> >I'm also down to one effect send on my mixer and .... >more >than two loopers.. My too-many-fx/loopers solution so far is to run each output of my three-output Timtone (think LGX synth access) guitar into its own dedicated processor/sound module (a VG-8, a GT-5--both stereo, and a Rockman acoustic pedal--mono) into channels on a Mackie1604vlz. I reach each of three main stereo fx from one of the 3 fx-send pairs, then send each fx's outs to separate channel-input pairs, so any fx could be sent thru any other. I monitor and record only from the control-room outs, so I can use the outs from each separate buss pair (1/2 and 3/4) as additional selective fx sends, returning these fx to fx returns, which of course come up at the main out, which also has insert points for sending everything to yet another stereo fx. It gets a little hairy keeping track of possible feedback loops, but I can't think of any way to get more sends out of the Mackie. My only problem now is how to automate the setup...a Switchblade would be ideal, but they're so frigging expensive! I'm looking closely at their new Cosmix..and at the idea of just getting a few stereo volume pedals. Anybody have any other ideas, or pedal recommendations? dpc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:23:49 +0100 From: Leonardo Cavallo To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looping with a band. Message-ID: <19971125162346218.AAC233@Default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 00.18 25/11/97 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi , I was just wondering how people go about looping in a band setting , >with drummers , chordchanges , dynamic flow in the ensemble and so forth.... >Maybe we can start a discussion where people share their experiences and >talk about their bands. >Like , is there any loopers who play in a pop-band??Say , An Alanis >Morrisette- type of thing? How would you go approach your looping >instrument in that context? > Or a funk band? say , as part of a rythmn section in the "JB" style? How >would that player approa.........and so forth..... Hi all I'm in the process of creating a new band. Only Chapman Stick (myself), vocals and drums. The peculiar aspect should be that either me and the singer are going to use extensively our jammans. Not an ambient thing at all. It should be a funk project with a danceable, original repertoire. I imagine that with this kind of lineup everything you 're going to do is quite experimental, playing pop songs too. I'd like to know if someone else has used this kind of setup (and some suggestions): My jamman master , midied out to the other jamman and to a drum machine, only used for clock reference through headphones (no drum machine sounds out) for all the members. The clock I think it's vital cause me and the singer are going to add some percussive elements (thanks to multiFX and stomp boxes) in our loops to makes real durm grooves more interesting. And what about the midi mute-restart when 2 jam are connected? thanks leo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:30:01 GMT From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Michael Pycraft Hughes, PhD) To: Dpcoffin@aol.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: switchers Message-Id: <11577.199711251630@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > a Switchblade would be ideal, but they're so > frigging expensive! I'm looking closely at their new Cosmix.. Kenton Electronics do an 8-way MIDI FX loop setup. They have a WWW page, though I don't have it to hand (www.kenton.co.uk maybe). They cost E 250UK, ie about $400. > and at the idea of just getting a few stereo volume pedals. Now that _would_ be cool... though a bit tricky to control.... Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: ZeplinSoup@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Brainwave Synch Message-ID: <971125113736_2006008771@mrin39> cool edit has a brainwave synch thinggy.......supposeddly you can get alpha and some of the other states aroused with it..... When I was in college studing psychology(my major) i had some ideas that i wanted to test..focusing on music and brainwaves,ect...its kinda sad that someone with definite ideas is not "allowed" to test them using university equiptment...anyway im venting ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:59:50 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: looping and Punk@!%!! Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >It's been a hoot reading people's top 10 lists. Certainly, it's nice to >know where our ears have been. > >I noticed very few Punk stylings in the inventories. Now, I'm not >trying to say Punk is good or bad nor do I care about definitions much >(please, let's not go there...). > >But - are there any PUNK Loopers out there? > Didn't Mission of Burma, Roger Miller's early band, have a member who just did processing and tape-looping? ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:09:40 -0500 From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) To: 'Loopers Delight' Subject: RE: Looping with a Band Message-ID: <01BCF9A3.65108C20@mark.asisoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I played in a Top 40 band from 1983 to 1991 and tried several times to introduce looping. My efforts were unsuccessful for the following reasons: 1. The drummer was the timekeeper. He would not alter his tempo to a machine under any circumstances. For example, I programmed the 8-note sequence from "Dancing on the Ceiling" by Lionel Richie into an old Korg Poly 800. The drummer did the count off and I pressed the start button and kept my hand on the sequencer's tempo control. It was very rare for the drummer and sequencer to play in time together. 2. The drummer refused to listen to a click track. In light of these problems, I decided to let the 8-note sequence play at a steady speed that I thought was right. It just floated around the drummer. As soon as the verse started I faded the sequence out. Another solution I arrived at was to sample the last note or chord of a song into a digital delay with its feedback/regeneration control set to 100 percent. When the other band members stopped playing, I cranked the delay time knob, causing the pitch of my last note or chord to slide up. This always caused several people on the dance floor to go, "Whoaaaaa," with their voices sliding upward like the sound from my digital delay. My best suggestion is to find a SYMPATHETIC drummer. Mark Kata Mark@asisoftware.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:26:10 -0800 From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Re: Looping with a Band Message-ID: <01bcf9d7$fc8523c0$883bd4cc@CIS.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Kata covered a common problem, but focused on the drummer sticking to his guns as a problem. I propose that, given the non-exact nature of most delay/loop processes we all use, our resultant rhythm or pattern will usually drive what I call "perochial types" crazy. A "perochial type" is, for example, someone who requires either sheet music or some tablature notation, (or other 'expert' prognosis) in order to play at all. I think this leads to the kind of inflexible business Mark talks about with a variety of drummers. One side effect of this kind of thing is that, when it comes to areas like World Music, which is not "classical" music in the perochial sense, generally repels people who require accessibility as an element of their music, to say nothing of folks with no desire to expand their horizons. I don't know how many times jams Haven't Happened until people of this type, most of which would prevent synergy from occurring by demanding to know "what key" or "beat" "it's" in. Personally, I *like* this natural method of cream-skimming. It helps me know who I can play with, and who I shouldn't; and leads to an overall harmonious atmosphere for music-making. Although I'll also admit that, to paraphrase Count Basie, it keeps the outside world from "horning in on my huzzle." :) ****************** On a separate note I thought I'd announce the release of my first cassette, entitled 'S', and available at my site below... Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios EarthLight Productions * Get the Loop Of The Week Free! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:29:30 -0500 From: "Hogan, Greg (Exchange)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: looping and Punk@!%!! Message-Id: <215C1D5A0FFDD011B3CC00805FC18C291786A0@NTSRV2.LEXICON.COM> Content-Type: text/plain Dave Trenkel asked: "Didn't Mission of Burma, Roger Miller's early band, have a member who just did processing and tape-looping?" Yes, Their soundman, Martin Swope, added tape loops which was an integral part of their live sound and their latter recordings. Greg Hogan Lexicon Customer Service Phone +781-280-0372 FAX +781-280-0499 email: ghogan@lexicon.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:26:41 -0500 From: "Hogan, Greg (Exchange)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Looping with a band. Message-Id: <215C1D5A0FFDD011B3CC00805FC18C2917869F@NTSRV2.LEXICON.COM> Content-Type: text/plain Leonardo asked: "And what about the midi mute-restart when 2 jam are connected?" JAMMAN will not echo it's MIDI input to the MIDI output. The addition of a MIDI THRU box will allow you to control both of your JAMMANs. Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I can do for you. Best regards, Greg Hogan Lexicon Customer Service Phone +781-280-0372 FAX +781-280-0499 email: ghogan@lexicon.com --------------------------------