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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 228

Today's Topics:
  Vortex Virgin                         [ djdowling@earthlink.net ]
  Re: sorry . . .                       [ Tom Lambrecht <hideo@concentric.net ]
  Re: Vortex w/ headphones              [ KILLINFO <KILLINFO@aol.com> ]
  Re: Vortex w/ headphones              [ David Myers <dmgraph@bway.net> ]
  Re: Loop Length                       [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: Vortex w/ headphones              [ Andre Cholmodeley <andre@monmouth.c ]
  Big Block 454                         [ bb454@mcmail.com ]
  Re: Vortex w/ headphones              [ buzzard@world.std.com (Sean T Barre ]
  Mixer Use                             [ Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT> ]
  Re: Mixer Use                         [ "nicomonguzzi" <nicomonguzzi@vtx.ch ]
  <STEREO>                              [ "Brian L Jackson" <brijackson@dttus ]
  <STEREO>                              [ "Brian L Jackson" <brijackson@dttus ]
  Re: Vortex w/ headphones              [ "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.c ]
  Re: Mixer Use                         [ "Eric R. Fischer" <efisch@artnet.ne ]
  Re[2]: Vortex w/ headphones           [ Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) ]
  Re: Mixer Use                         [ "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.c ]
  Re[2]: Vortex w/ headphones           [ Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) ]
  Re: for sale VORTEX                   [ Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) ]
  Re: Mixer Use                         [ "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@eart ]
  Re: Mixer Use                         [ Chris Chovit <cho@newdream.net> ]
  Looper CD: last call for contributor  [ Marathon Records/Finley Sound Desig ]
  Re: domain name stuff                 [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  Who's going to NAMM?                  [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  Re: Who's going to NAMM?              [ Floyd Miller <floyd@voicenet.com> ]
  Re: Who's going to NAMM?              [ "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@eart ]
  Re: Greg H. omnipresent               [ Tom Lambrecht <hideo@concentric.net ]

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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 21:46:34 -0500
From: djdowling@earthlink.net
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Vortex Virgin
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Thanks to all for responses and apologies for my accidental post earlier
today.
Before checking my mail this eve I experimented with my Vortex for a
while and discovered most of the things that you all have noted...I
guess I spoke prematurely.
I was running in stereo but when I switched to headphones and eliminated
alot of my guitar junk (including compression) I began to "see" the
light.
I'm sure I'll run into some roadblocks later but I'll spend some time
before I jump to conclusions again. 
Thanks Again
Dave

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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:57:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Lambrecht <hideo@concentric.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: sorry . . .
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At 09:54 AM 12/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>D.
>
>tou ever get that Vortex?--I just picked up an Rds 8000 and am having lots
>of twisted fun with my boxes
>
>Tom
>Tom Lambrecht  hideo@concentric.net
>
>
>
>

oops, private post  SORRY

drone on

Tom



First law: Bandwidth cannot be created or destroyed
Tom Lambrecht  hideo@concentric.net

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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:25:42 EST
From: KILLINFO <KILLINFO@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  Vortex w/ headphones
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In a message dated 12/9/97 2:07:00 AM, you wrote:

>Now I've got to figure out a way to go stereo on gigs. It appears that
>most small clubs do not run stereo PAs, or don't use the stereo capability
>of the ones they have. I suppose the only solution is to get a power amp
>and a couple of cabinets of my own. How many of y'all do stereo live? and
>how?

Too true, too true about club PAs. I've done the power amp+cabs route for
quite a few years now. My current (and long-time favorite) tools for this are
a Seymour Duncan KTG 2075 power amp and four 1x12 Duncan cabs. It's really too
bad Duncan went out of the amp business. They really had something going there
for a while. Oh well, at least they still make the pickups.

T.Killian

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 01:06:11 -0500
From: David Myers <dmgraph@bway.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vortex w/ headphones
Message-Id: <l03110702b0b28eb5beb2@[205.198.117.116]>
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>This was the first time I'd head the Vortex in stereo. Wow! (Yes, I
>remember our discussions of how the Jamman loops in mono but it passes
>stereo signals through intact...)
>I want to emphatically second Travis' suggestion that the cat trying to
>figure out his new Vortex get some good stereo phones.
>A lot of patchs that sounded like "chorusy echo" or "echoey chorus" before
>make a lot more sense and the power of the echo settings is a lot clearer.

I always recommend the Vortex to people who are looking for nifty
spatialization of a mono signal.  Right now I follow my Echoplex with the
Vortex ("Tex my Plex"--thank you Sean E.), but wish I had my second "tex"
back to warp the guitar signal on the front end.  But yeah, the Vortex
lives in serious stereo territory, to my ears....

David

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 04:18:37 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Loop Length
Message-Id: <v03007801b0b297113999@[200.254.32.200]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

kim:
>no, multiply in real time is unique to the echoplex. You could do it with
>hard disk recording, but nowhere near as easily. Once you try, it seems so
>completely natural and obvious. I don't think I could live without a
>feature like this, and neither could Matthias, obviously!

It was the main reason to start designing a dedicated looper. I proposed
the feature to t.c. for the 2290 and they thought it only served for some
crazy "new agers".
Then I built the feature into the PCM42 and was satisfied for a while (yes,
with rounding, completely on HW logic! The unit still exists, but it gave a
long squeek and died pretty exactly when the LOOP delay prototype started
working).
But when the need to sync to a second loop musician and the idea of Undo
came, I had to do it right...

Matthias

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 02:04:30 -0500
From: Andre Cholmodeley <andre@monmouth.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Vortex w/ headphones
Message-Id: <199712090721.CAA09539@shell.monmouth.com>
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re: vortex: A lot of patchs that sounded like "chorusy echo" or "echoey
chorus" before
> make a lot more sense and the power of the echo settings is a lot
clearer.
> Polyrhythmic echo settings that sounded like a blur kick ass when one
> rhythm is on one side & one on the other.
> Now I've got to figure out a way to go stereo on gigs..... of my own. How
many of y'all do stereo live? and
> how?

just started going stero again - for me it's

guitar > ADA MP1 preamp (stereo) > VORTEX (stereo)> Quadraverb (stereo)> 

LEFT output into amp 1, >RIGHT output into digitech Time machine then into
Amp 2.

the vortex stuff sound great, i have a stereo vol pedal between the pre amp
and the VORtex

(still awesome,  12AX7 tube for great overdreive, etc)

experiment!!! do whatever, then put the vortex last, and simply connect to
2 amps or a stereo amp

andre
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:25:32 +0000
From: bb454@mcmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Big Block 454
Message-Id: <199712090920.JAA19095@mcmail.com>
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Perhaps you looping fans would like to visit my web site,
http://www.bigblock454.mcmail.com

We've used a lot of looping in our material, using tape loops, 
samplers, an old Melos echo unit, and so on.

We also use various home-made instruments; units such as the E-Bow 
and the Golden Throat mouth tube; and lots of old guitars and synths, 
including a Selmer Clavioline.

Our influences are bands such as Faust and The Residents.
Colin, Big Block 454, Manchester, England
http://www.bigblock454.mcmail.com

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 06:58:34 -0500
From: buzzard@world.std.com (Sean T Barrett)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vortex w/ headphones
Message-Id: <199712091158.AA29901@world.std.com>

>> Now I've got to figure out a way to go stereo on gigs.....
>>of my own. How many of y'all do stereo live? and how?
>
>just started going stero again - for me it's

Does anyone really know how well the audience can
here this?  How much of a difference does it make?

I guess, at least, if nothing else, the musician (you)
will hear it and perhaps be more inspired... but it
seems like a lot of trouble to go to if people can't
hear it.

Doesn't bypassing PA cause problems for the poor guy
trying to mix the band?  Or are you guys playing solo?

Sean

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 15:45:53 +0100
From: Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Mixer Use
Message-ID: <19971209144552875.AAA201@Default>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi guys

I'd like to know what kind of mixer's use you make in your looping setup.
Regarding effect too. 

I could take a little mixer for nothing and I'd like to know more about it
in a loop context.

thanks

leo

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 16:28:27 +0100
From: "nicomonguzzi" <nicomonguzzi@vtx.ch>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Mixer Use
Message-Id: <l03102800b0b31170e5a0@[194.235.13.111]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Hi guys
>
>I'd like to know what kind of mixer's use you make in your looping setup.
>Regarding effect too.
>
>I could take a little mixer for nothing and I'd like to know more about it
>in a loop context.
>
>thanks
>
>leo


Ciao
i use a Mackie MS 1402-vlz.

Aux send 1 > Alesis Microverb 4 >> Jamman >> Stereo aux return 1

Aux send 2 > Alesis Microverb (the old little box) >>Stereo aux return 2

With this setup i can choose what and how much send to the effected jamman.
If i want a dry signal to the jamman i bypass the MV4.
I use effects send 2 to have a large reverb for my little percussions and
toys, independently from loops.

Now i would maybe add another multieffect after the jamman, to alter the
loops, any advice ?

ciao nicos

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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 97 09:37:03 CST
From: "Brian L Jackson" <brijackson@dttus.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: <STEREO>
Message-Id: <9711098816.AA881690229@ccbbn5.dttus.com>

I play in stereo live, and use a stereo power amp (either a Mesa 20/20 or 
a 50/50) and two 1x12 EV-loaded Thiele ported cabinets.  I space the 
cabinets apart to emphasize the stereo image.  On my solo looping gigs, I 
put the speakers as far apart as possible, usually 20 feet or so, 
depending on the room.  On those gigs, I don't use a PA, so they audience 
does get the stereo effect (I monitor through headphones).  For my 
band-oriented guitar playing, I also go in stereo, but the stereo is just 
for me.  Most PA's on the club level are in mono, and soundmen don't want 
to be bothered with mic'ing two cabinets.
     
Travis Hartnett 
     
     
     funny, I use a 50/50 with two 1x12 EV(300 watt) also!!  What a small 
     world:)
     
     Brian

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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 97 09:37:03 CST
From: "Brian L Jackson" <brijackson@dttus.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: <STEREO>
Message-Id: <9711098816.AA881690232@ccbbn6.dttus.com>

I play in stereo live, and use a stereo power amp (either a Mesa 20/20 or 
a 50/50) and two 1x12 EV-loaded Thiele ported cabinets.  I space the 
cabinets apart to emphasize the stereo image.  On my solo looping gigs, I 
put the speakers as far apart as possible, usually 20 feet or so, 
depending on the room.  On those gigs, I don't use a PA, so they audience 
does get the stereo effect (I monitor through headphones).  For my 
band-oriented guitar playing, I also go in stereo, but the stereo is just 
for me.  Most PA's on the club level are in mono, and soundmen don't want 
to be bothered with mic'ing two cabinets.
     
Travis Hartnett 
     
     
     funny, I use a 50/50 with two 1x12 EV(300 watt) also!!  What a small 
     world:)
     
     Brian

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 97 10:28:44 -0000
From: "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Vortex w/ headphones
Message-Id: <199712091629.IAA09272@scv4.apple.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>Does anyone really know how well the audience can
>here this?  How much of a difference does it make?
>
At some point, I  set up a few loops and set them to infinite repeat.  
This gives me an opportunity to walk around the venue and see what the 
sound is like.  There *is* a difference for the audience playing in 
stereo, but I'm not looking to give the audience a "perfect" stereo 
image, but rather a 3-D sonic construction.  Recently I've gotten into 
angling the speakers towards a wall and up at the ceiling to get maximum 
dispersion.  It gets difficult to tell exactly where the sound is coming 
from, particularly if I "hide" the speakers behind a chair or something.

>I guess, at least, if nothing else, the musician (you)
>will hear it and perhaps be more inspired... but it
>seems like a lot of trouble to go to if people can't
>hear it.

Since I already had the necessary speakers and power amp, it wasn't that 
much trouble.  The load-in/set-up time for two speakers vs one is 
miniscule in light of all the other gear I already have to load in.

>Doesn't bypassing PA cause problems for the poor guy
>trying to mix the band?  Or are you guys playing solo?

My looping gigs are usually solo, or if not, with someone else who is 
also packing their own amplification.  A lot of gigs are in 
non-traditional spaces which don't have a PA (theatre lobbies, 
coffeehouses, building foyers).  The places that have PA's are usually 
pleased that they don't have to hassle with it, once I explain that I 
understand the idea of appropriate, comfortable volume.

Travis Hartnett

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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 09:41:23 -0800
From: "Eric R. Fischer" <efisch@artnet.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Mixer Use
Message-ID: <348D82C1.1D6D@artnet.net>
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I'm using a Passac "Unity 8" mixer. It is perfect for my applications.
It's one rack space, 8 channels, with panning, volume and 2 aux sends
for each channel in one rack space. They don't make them anymore, but if
you look around you can find them for @ $175.00. It's set up like this:

aux 1 -Sony dly unit ret. on ch's 1&2
aux 2 L - Roland SRV-2000 ret. on ch's 3 & 4
aux 2 R - Lexicon PCM-70 ret. on ch's 5&6
straight guitar sound on ch. 7
echoplex on ch 8

output to Boogie 50/50 (for now) into 2 Mesa thiele 1x12" cabs.

this gives me alot of on the fly flexibility when looping. I'm very
"hands on" my gear when playing.
Later
Eric





Leonardo Cavallo wrote:
> 
> Hi guys
> 
> I'd like to know what kind of mixer's use you make in your looping setup.
> Regarding effect too.
> 
> I could take a little mixer for nothing and I'd like to know more about it
> in a loop context.
> 
> thanks
> 
> leo

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:43:24 -0800
From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Mike.Biffle@wj.com,
        buzzard@world.std.com (Sean T Barrett)
Subject: Re[2]: Vortex w/ headphones
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     My experience has been that most of the good gigs have soundpersons 
     who will gladly place a mic on each speaker, giving you at the very 
     least a summed mono mix. 
     
     Then along come the gig with a stereo PA. From the comments, I believe 
     the audience notices. Whether they know what to attribute the *good* 
     performance to is another story. I've gone out front and listened to 
     others play through my stereo rig in both situations and I 
     *definitely* notice!
     
     If there is a PA I would use it mono, stereo or otherwise. Bypassing 
     the PA is a great way to not be heard in the mix, or to have badly 
     muddled sound.
     
     -Miko


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: Vortex w/ headphones
Author:  buzzard@world.std.com (Sean T Barrett) at INTERNET
Date:    12/9/97 6:58 AM


>> Now I've got to figure out a way to go stereo on gigs.....
>>of my own. How many of y'all do stereo live? and how?
>
>just started going stero again - for me it's

Does anyone really know how well the audience can
here this?  How much of a difference does it make?

I guess, at least, if nothing else, the musician (you)
will hear it and perhaps be more inspired... but it
seems like a lot of trouble to go to if people can't
hear it.

Doesn't bypassing PA cause problems for the poor guy
trying to mix the band?  Or are you guys playing solo?

Sean

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 97 10:34:41 -0000
From: "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Mixer Use
Message-Id: <199712091635.IAA06386@scv3.apple.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>I'd like to know what kind of mixer's use you make in your looping setup.
>Regarding effect too. 
>
>I could take a little mixer for nothing and I'd like to know more about it
>in a loop context.

I use a Samson Mixpad 9.  It's got three or four mono inputs, five or six 
stereo inputs, and two mono send/stereo return effects loops.  
Channel 1: Guitar preamp
Channel 2: 3.7 second delay
Channel 3: 8 second delay
Channel 4: Echoplex
Channel 5 Drum machine into a ART multieffector
EFX 1: send for the Echoplex
EFX 2: Vortex


Travis Hartnett

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:23:42 -0800
From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle)
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>,
        "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Vortex w/ headphones
Message-ID: <0005BAF6.1264@wj.com>
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>Subject: Re: Vortex w/ headphones
>Author:  "T.W. Hartnett" <hartnett.t@apple.com> at INTERNET
>Date:    12/9/97 10:28 AM



>>Doesn't bypassing PA cause problems for the poor guy
>>trying to mix the band?  Or are you guys playing solo?

>My looping gigs are usually solo, or if not, with someone else who is 
>also packing their own amplification.  A lot of gigs are in 
>non-traditional spaces which don't have a PA (theatre lobbies, 
>coffeehouses, building foyers).  The places that have PA's are usually 
>pleased that they don't have to hassle with it, once I explain that I 
     >understand the idea of appropriate, comfortable volume.
     >Travis Hartnett
     
     At gigs with ensembles, I've been using two monitor wedges for years 
     w/1 12" Celestions in each. No speakers at the rear of the stage. I 
     usually get a *real* monitor between my stereo guitar monitor cabs.
     
     Sound guys have been unanimously pleased that they can mix me without 
     having to fight with my cabinet volume onstage. They're ecstatic 
     usually. The bonus for me is the incredible sweet spot at my stage 
     location. I hear myself great, get great feedback without turning 
     around, and don't blast the hair off of the rest of the band members 
     heads! When I ran a back line of speakers, I liked it pretty loud.
     
      Now that I've gone full range, I will now just hand them my two XLR 
     outputs from my Mackie 1202VLZ. I'm pretty sure they'll be *real* 
     happy with that as well. 
     
     I'm also planning on adding a pair of Garwood in-ear monitors as my 
     monitor method, which removes all speakers from the stage area which 
     completely eliminates microphone bleed. My acoustic guitar will 
     probably never feed back again. I'll also get a perfect mix at the 
     exact volume I desire.
     
     -Miko

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:31:09 -0800
From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Mike.Biffle@wj.com, KULTBOX@aol.com
Subject: Re: for sale VORTEX
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     Hello KULTBOX...
     
     I've gotten into the holiday cash crunch and now have to wait awhile 
     to see where all the chips land. Sorry. 
     
     -Miko


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: for sale VORTEX
Author:  KULTBOX@aol.com at INTERNET
Date:    12/4/97 12:06 PM


mint with pedal.

best offer.

im in chicago

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:52:23 -0800
From: "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@earthlight.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Mixer Use
Message-ID: <000a01bd04db$f92a74a0$413bd4cc@sgoodman>
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Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT> exuded:
>I'd like to know what kind of mixer's use you make in your looping setup.
>Regarding effect too.
>
>I could take a little mixer for nothing and I'd like to know more about it
>in a loop context.


Hi Leo!  I use a Very Low Cost Yamaha 6-in, 2-out, 1-effects in/out mixer as
the front end for my entire looping process.  I hook up the loop - a
Digitech 7.6 unit - via the effects send/receive, which lets me drop sounds
into it from more than one source, selectively.  Frankly I'd rather have a
2-effects, 8-in 4-out mixer, but hey!  It works.

It's used in the setup presently utilized in producing the work at my web
site (and on my new cassette!).

Stephen Goodman           * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios
EarthLight Productions     * Get the Loop Of The Week Free!

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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:41:43 -0800
From: Chris Chovit <cho@newdream.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Mixer Use
Message-Id: <v03007801b0b2e1ca69ab@[1.1.1.9]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Leo,

I use a Mackie 1604 mixer:

Guitar -->stereo preamp/effects --> Mixer input channels
Microphone --> mixer input channel

effect sends, routed to loopers, delays and vortex

All of these units' outputs are routed back into mixer channels

4 mixer busses:
	2 busses --> stereo guitar, & looper signals route to
		boogie 50/50 tube amp w/ 1x12" thiele cabinets (w/
celestion greenbacks)
	2 busses --> microphone, vortex, & delays get routed to full range
PA (currently using
		 home stereo system)

Also, I sync the echoplexes to sequencer playing drum rhythms from Roland
R8M, whose signal gets routed to full range PA.

The combination of guitar tube amp/speaker w/ full range PA creates a
LARGE, KILLER sound!  Unfortunately, this requires a 4 buss mixer....Anyone
know of a well-built, reasonably priced, compact, rack-mountable line mixer
w/ at least 4 fx sends and 4 busses??  The only thing I know like this is
the Mackie LM3204, and it is not a true 4-buss, is not quite compact (5
rack spaces), and costs 6 or 7 hundred $.

Along these lines, I recently picked up a Q-MIX Headphone "Matrix" amp by
Oz Audio.  This unit has 1 stereo input and 4 mono inputs, all of which can
be routed to any of 6 stereo outputs.  So, effectively, this is a 6 buss
(stereo!) mixer.  All it would need are multiple fx loops (this unit does
have one) -- say 6 of them!  Imagine running 6 loopers, into any of 6
stereo outputs (six stereo PAs could be spread throughout the
venue/installation setting.  Great possibilities! (Too bad my wallet can't
keep up with my imagination).   Anyone trying something like this?

chris

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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:50:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Marathon Records/Finley Sound Design <marathon@joshuanet.com>
To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Looper CD:  last call for contributors!!!!
Message-Id: <l03102800b0b4872c8499@[205.138.253.79]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

The Looper's Delight CD project web page has been updated with a list of
contributors and volunteers.  If you don't see your name on the list and
you want to be involved, email me ASAP.

http://www.joshuanet.com/marathon/Looper_CD.html

Matt

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Matt McCabe
Finley Sound Design
Marathon Records
http://www.joshuanet.com/marathon/



      

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 02:12:31 -0800
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: domain name stuff
Message-Id: <v03102806b0b56a7efef3@[207.171.198.40]>
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At 7:47 AM -0500 12/1/97, ANET@aol.com wrote:
>Kim;
>If you would like to E-mail me and send me your address, I would like to
>contribute $50.00 to whatever effort you deem necessary.  By the way, I would
>like to challenge others to donate to Kim to continue this effort.  We have a
>real jewel here.  Oh, by the way if any of you have not heard Michael Peters
>Loops,  take a little trip over to his Web site in Colonge, Germany,  He has
>some very nice guitar loops for demo.

This is a bit old; meant to reply but have been very busy! Anyway, thank
you very much for the offer, I really appreciate that. However, what you
could offer that would be a lot more helpful than the money would be some
of your time! The site operates by volunteerism, and it gets much better
when more people help out a little bit here and there. And these days, time
is the thing I have the least of, so I haven't been able to make many
interesting updates to the web site lately.

So take a look at the web site, see if there is any area that's lacking
where you might be able to add something, and hop right in! If you can't
think of anything, let me know because there are plenty of projects
floating around. If you don't know how to make web pages, don't worry about
it. There are people around who do know how that can help out. Web pages
are pretty easy anyway, so this might be a fine time to learn!

thanks again for the offer,

kim

______________________________________________________________________
Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 02:21:53 -0800
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Who's going to NAMM?
Message-Id: <v03102808b0b56e96f530@[207.171.198.40]>
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The NAMM show is coming up again, Jan 29 - Feb 1.  Who's going? We had a
little Looper's convention last year. Small but fun! Who wants to do it
again this year?

kim

______________________________________________________________________
Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:34:18 -0500
From: Floyd Miller <floyd@voicenet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Who's going to NAMM?
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19971211083418.007bcb70@popmail.voicenet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 02:21 AM 12/11/97 -0800, you wrote:
>The NAMM show is coming up again, Jan 29 - Feb 1.
Where?  and how does one get in?

**************** 
  ********** Floyd Miller
    ****** floyd@voicenet.com
      ** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 07:36:47 -0800
From: "Stephen P. Goodman" <sgoodman@earthlight.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Who's going to NAMM?
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>The NAMM show is coming up again, Jan 29 - Feb 1.  Who's going? We had a
>little Looper's convention last year. Small but fun! Who wants to do it
>again this year?


You mean there's one of us peasant musicians that actually gets to touch a
ticket to the show? :)  I thought you had to have a real 'in' to get
there...

Stephen Goodman       * Download The Loop Of The Week and more!
EarthLight Studios         * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:44:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Lambrecht <hideo@concentric.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Greg H. omnipresent
Message-Id: <199712111544.KAA00394@mcfeely.concentric.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

<Oh, Greg while I've got your ear, I sure could use three or four tiny
little Jamman <case screws (long and short) to replace the ones I , ahem, .
. .  butchered, doing my <32 sec upgrade

<I wuv my Jammi

<drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~Tom


You  guys should know that Lexicon's Greg H. is ever vigilant--my off-hand
remark was quickly followed by a query from an enchantress named Beth at LEX
asking where they should ship the screws--nice to know customer service
still exists . . .

so you Lex detractors (hmm. are there any?) beware . . . Greg's tendrils are
everywhere

drone on~~~~~~~~Tom

(ps ---Thanks G.H.)
Tom Lambrecht  hideo@concentric.net

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