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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 232

Today's Topics:
  Re: <STEREO>                          [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Do you use Quantize?                  [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: bluegrass looping                 [ "Randy Jones" <ranjones@texas.net> ]
  Re: Do you replace parts of loops?    [ "Randy Jones" <ranjones@texas.net> ]
  Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp?????  [ ANET <ANET@aol.com> ]
  Re: bluegrass looping and music link  [ ANET <ANET@aol.com> ]
  Re: Major Jamage (Bela Fleck and oth  [ ANET <ANET@aol.com> ]
  Re: bluegrass looping                 [ ANET <ANET@aol.com> ]
  Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp?????  [ "Randy Jones" <ranjones@texas.net> ]
  Fripp, making friends in the audienc  [ Andre Cholmodeley <andre@monmouth.c ]
  Re: Fripp, making friends in the aud  [ paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski,  ]
  Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp?????  [ inti@webtv.net (Carlos Carrillo) ]
  RE: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp?????  [ Tom Attix <toma@microsoft.com> ]
  Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp?????  [ Kevin Simonson <simonson@uis.edu> ]
  Re: Fripp, making friends in the aud  [ landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) ]
  Fripp - "Sully his hands in commerce  [ "Peter Thompson" <pt205@hermes.cam. ]
  UNDO MALFUNCTION ON ECHOPLEX(Is it b  [ madmaxxx@pop.slip.net (Ian Reid Max ]
  UNDO MALFUNCTION ON ECHOPLEX(Is it b  [ madmaxxx@pop.slip.net (Ian Reid Max ]

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:03:22 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: <STEREO>
Message-Id: <v03007800b0b86a9e0102@[200.254.32.122]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Matthias Grob wrote:
>> mono? I thought that only existed down here in 3. World?
>>
>> As soon as you use audible reverb, I think stereo is a must.
>> For bands with many members its the only way to make all audible.
>>
>> Matthias
>
Mark:
>Got to disagree with you there Matthias.  As a professional sound
>engineer, I will tell you that stereo is definitely NOT what you want in
>live sound.  The reason is that when you do a mix in stereo, you create
>a "sweet spot" where the sound is correctly balanced between left and
>right.  Everywhere else the mix is wrong.  Because the sweet spot is so
>small (compared to most clubs/auditoriums) only a small number of
>people, near the sound person, will here what is intended.  Most PA
>cabinets come with horns that disperse the high frequency information
>(any wave length that's greater than the distance between your ears
>{bass} is not perceived as stereo) so that everyone can hear a proper
>balance.

Thats about what people tell me here, too (to justify the economy of a
second crossover :-)
I do quite a lot of stage work, too, and don't find the sweet spot that
small. Of course I never mix radical, putting an instrument all to one side
(even in recordings, I do not like one tom left, the other right or two
mics of a piano totaly open paned), but a little paning helps the listener
because through the sense of orientation he can listen to the instrument he
is interested in.
In case of several voices it especially helps to percieve the full harmony.

Also, somewhat out of the center axis, you get phase canceling due to the
different distances to the two cabinets. If the signal is not exactly the
same, because you do some minor paning, this filter effect even adds to the
"liveness" of the sound. If the system is mono, the canceling can be very
annoying, especially if the person is dancing and the cancelled frequencies
change with the movements.
Once the equipment is mono, I prefer to have all cabinets on one side.

I was especially speaking of reverb: Mono reverb comes to me as a confusing
wash, while it creates space in stereo even for the listener that is pretty
much outside of the stereo listening range because it works through the
whole pattern of reflexions that circulate in the room.

Well, thats how I hear it, and people like "my sound" :-)
Matthias

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:12:59 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Do you use Quantize?
Message-Id: <v03007803b0b87288dd1b@[200.254.32.104]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I don't, so I wonder...

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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:20:15 -0600
From: "Randy Jones" <ranjones@texas.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: bluegrass looping
Message-ID: <01bd0719$d498c340$643163d1@user.texas.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Welcome Mike,

I love a good harmonica! Be sure to let everyone here know if you have any
demos or CDs coming out with a looped harmonica. I'd be very interested in
getting a copy.

Hey, Whatever happened to the Midimonica?

Randy Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: Jane/Mike Stevens <stevens@ebtech.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: bluegrass looping


>
>>Hi folks,    this is my first posting to the list although I have been
>lurking for a yr or so.My name is Mike Stevens I play bluegrass for a
living
>with Jim and Jesse.I am a harmonica player wich is a nontraditional instr
>for bluegrass ,but I have made some inroads with it.Anyhow I have been
>looping for several years and recently recieved a grant from the Canadian
>Arts Council to do a experimental recording that has some solo looping on
>it. Bluegrass and looping is a great concept but the traditional audiences
>would freak out ,there are shows I work that wont even allow an electric
>bass on stage [pretty wierd] I would just like to say thanks to everyone
for
>the many things I have learned on this list.
>                       Mike
>>
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:45:21 -0600
From: "Randy Jones" <ranjones@texas.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Do you replace parts of loops?
Message-ID: <01bd071d$565fb200$643163d1@user.texas.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
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Hello,

This sounds like a very interesting thing to do.  Is is possible to give
specific instructions for this technique.  I read the manual, but can't
actually GET the process.  Sorry to be technoslow...I think a "Echoplex For
Dummies" is the manual I need.

Thanks,

Randy Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Grob <matthias@bahianet.com.br>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 11:22 PM
Subject: Do you replace parts of loops?


>I just got fascinated again about the possiblility to replace parts of
>longer loops while experiencing them. Within over 15 sec of loop you
>probably like some bit better than the other. The bit you do not like (be
>it a colour in your "wash" or a single cord in your sequence), you can
>reduce with feedback or even replace straight away with a Replace function.
>After listening to the loop enough, you know what you want to change and
>thus let the whole idea grow.
>
>I prefer to use FeedBack for this, because it allows to fade or leave a bit
>or the old stuff in the background.
>Used smother it simply creates a dynamic wave of a previously constant
sound.
>
>Do you all use such tricks?
>For practicing/creating or as musical expression/composition in a final
>version?
>
>Tell us more!
>
>Matthias
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:07:16 EST
From: ANET <ANET@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp??????
Message-ID: <41116e25.3492c0c7@aol.com>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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Hey, I've heard so much about Fripp, in fact I went out and bought That Which
Passes.  Boooooooooooooooooooo, I'll sell it for $5.00 to anyone and pay the
shipping.

My feelings on Fripp at the moment are not good, and now he stops when a flash
goes off?  What a luxury, play music for a living and have an attitude as
well.  I know, paparazzi are everywhere right?

Am I missing something?

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:02:33 EST
From: ANET <ANET@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: bluegrass looping and music links to other loopers examples.
Message-ID: <38b38ba4.3492bfab@aol.com>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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Hey Terry Spaulding;

Kim sent me a note yesterday stating that he is always looking for volunteers
to the site and a lot of folks are making recommendations to good stuff that
they know about.  

I have always thought that get down to local levels really exposes the true
music to be found and I am sure there is more true music out there than what
we hear over the airwaves.  

Wouldn't it be nice to add links to folks that know about this stuff of which
we could sample?  

Just an Idea,  I don't think loopers-delight has that yet.  It would be an
excellent add-on.  

See Ya,

Hey do you like fried okra and black-eyed peas?   (me too)

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:22:30 EST
From: ANET <ANET@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Major Jamage (Bela Fleck and others)
Message-ID: <8a76642b.3492c45e@aol.com>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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In a message dated 97-12-13 02:52:19 EST, you write:

> 
>  Bela, Sam, Edgar, Mark, and Jerry are probably all progressive and
>  experimental enough to introduce looping to bluegrass. I just don't know if
>  bluegrass audiences are ready for it....
>  
>  

Point well taken.  I know I have sufferred from musical arrogance in my past
as well.  Too bad though, people miss so much by having a closed mind.  

Strength in Numbers was indeed a stringy CD.  

Have a good one!

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:39:28 EST
From: ANET <ANET@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: bluegrass looping
Message-ID: <c82139b2.3492c892@aol.com>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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In a message dated 97-12-13 03:15:13 EST, you write:

> 
>  I don't know about audiences, but in my days of demoing echoplexes I had
>  quite a few bluegrass players express a lot of interest. I'm not remarkably
>  familiar with bluegrass myself, but it seems that the music does make
>  frequent use of repeating motifs that might work great with looping. And
>  then there's Chet Atkins and Phil Keaggy (do they qualify as bluegrass? I
>  don't even know), who have both made use of looping in their music.
>  
I didn't know that Chet had some looping stuff out there, do anyone know what
it is and if it's good?

As far as Phil Keaggy,  I have followed his stuff since 1975.  He has gone
through many changes.  In 73 he cut a record with a family in California named
Herring, the album was name 2nd Chapter of Acts.  At that point he was a very
bright inprov. rocker with a sound that received many eyebrow raisings in the
Christian world (rock in the church?  God forbid). By 79 he had made quite an
additional number or recordings, some of which were too stylistic of Keaggy,
in fact some folks had names for his licks -  Keaggy-isms.  They were fast
appegiated sweeps across, sideways and up and down everywhere.  Then he hit
the acoustic scene discovering alternate tunings of which increased his
appegiated music approach.  Then the jamman came into play, of which I saw him
twice with that set up.  Incredible sound! 
He would switch from Acoustic to Electric, but I had always thought the
acoustic was his best instrument.   As far as a category?  
Christian-rocker-classical-acoustic-appegiated-scalar-monster gone soft?

If you haven't heard him and Christian based content does not bother you, take
a listen.  He's good. 

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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:48:49 -0600
From: "Randy Jones" <ranjones@texas.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp??????
Message-ID: <01bd0726$34247c80$433163d1@user.texas.net>
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Hello,

OK last post for awhile.  I have to agree here.  I pd $80 for me and my GF
to hear him play here in San Antonio.  I arrived on time and Mr.
Frippenormous had started playing an hour before the show was suppossed to
start. Guess that's cool somewhere??? I heard him do this minimal thing for
2 MINUTES, then leave. All I got for $80 was VAI/and the other guy, sigh...
Hey, Robert, if you are listening, I want my money back!!!  Email me for my
address. You owe me!!!


Randy Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: ANET <ANET@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Saturday, December 13, 1997 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp??????


>Hey, I've heard so much about Fripp, in fact I went out and bought That
Which
>Passes.  Boooooooooooooooooooo, I'll sell it for $5.00 to anyone and pay
the
>shipping.
>
>My feelings on Fripp at the moment are not good, and now he stops when a
flash
>goes off?  What a luxury, play music for a living and have an attitude as
>well.  I know, paparazzi are everywhere right?
>
>Am I missing something?
>
>

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 13:08:58 -0500
From: Andre Cholmodeley <andre@monmouth.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Fripp, making friends in the audience again????
Message-Id: <199712131812.NAA24878@shell.monmouth.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
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ok, i'll weigh in on the frippbash.... though as many do, i love the man
and his music. he's one of my biggest influences and has written some of
the sickest stuff - 70s, 80s, 90s!!!!

but - i like to kick my heroes... this story tho, is about a good
friend....

back during the League of Gentlemen tour, Fripp had the concept that it was
a "dance" band of sorts, so thet booked into places that were dance halls,
open seatless spaces, etc. He wanted you to DANCE, dammit.

So my friend , who is an amazing guitarist and fripp-head, got right to up
the the front of the stage, basically front row, and hung out near fripp to
enjoy his playing, technique, music.

But he wasn't dancing.

After several songs, (and i paraphrase) Fripp leaned forward and hissed
"why aren't you dancing !? You're being a vampire !!!" This is for dancing,
stop sucking up my energy !!!"

So - i think the guy just has a real planned out life (read any liner notes
of the late 70s early 80s)

what are ya gonna do?? he's a genius. just a cranky one, that's all.

peace, andre'

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:23:47 -0400
From: paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Ph.D.)
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: Fripp, making friends in the audience again????
Message-Id: <v01520d02b0b880d8c3eb@[208.212.178.74]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I saw Fripp last night in Philly ... he never broke a sweat, presented
himself as some judgemental overlord, and completed the evening by having a
mutual masturbatory session with some members of the audience over the
idiosyncracies of "Crim" factoids.  His playing was mediocre and it was
more commercial than most anything I've heard in the genre ... commercial
in that he was selling TC Electronic, Eventide, and Roland products through
a constant manipulation of them.  He announced at the beginning that he
didn't see the music as "precious" and that people should feel free to do
what they want ... mill around and talk.  It was probably the most precious
event I can recall being.  His use of loops and high-end gear is notable,
however there is nothing more flat than an artist who demands an audience
find something to appreciate in the repeated use of the same motifs, sounds
and movement over a protracted period of time and then tell you he is not
being precious.

It was all art as commerce without substance.  To end the evening, he let
everyone know that, "though he would not sully his hands in commerce", he
did have Fedx'd in a large supply of CDs that he was selling ... but that
his assistant would be doing that.

He was an asshole.

>ok, i'll weigh in on the frippbash.... though as many do, i love the man
>and his music. he's one of my biggest influences and has written some of
>the sickest stuff - 70s, 80s, 90s!!!!
>
>but - i like to kick my heroes... this story tho, is about a good
>friend....
>
>back during the League of Gentlemen tour, Fripp had the concept that it was
>a "dance" band of sorts, so thet booked into places that were dance halls,
>open seatless spaces, etc. He wanted you to DANCE, dammit.
>
>So my friend , who is an amazing guitarist and fripp-head, got right to up
>the the front of the stage, basically front row, and hung out near fripp to
>enjoy his playing, technique, music.
>
>But he wasn't dancing.
>
>After several songs, (and i paraphrase) Fripp leaned forward and hissed
>"why aren't you dancing !? You're being a vampire !!!" This is for dancing,
>stop sucking up my energy !!!"
>
>So - i think the guy just has a real planned out life (read any liner notes
>of the late 70s early 80s)
>
>what are ya gonna do?? he's a genius. just a cranky one, that's all.
>
>peace, andre'

Paul Poplawski, Ph.D.
email = ppoplawski@state.de.us  or  paulpop@ssnet.com
phone service = 302/737-4491
weekday office = 302/577-4980

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 11:35:52 -0800
From: inti@webtv.net (Carlos Carrillo)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp??????
Message-Id: <199712131935.LAA01281@mailtod-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
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Fuck Fripp.

Carlos R. Carrillo

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 11:49:59 -0800
From: Tom Attix <toma@microsoft.com>
To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp??????
Message-ID: <41DE695CE6FCCF11AD1000805FCCF8EC56BAB9@sf-01-msg.dns.microsoft.com>

I realize that there is a certain power and attractiveness to alliteration,
but could we at least agree to trash one of my favorite guitarists without
swearing. It keeps the potential for flame wars and long angry screeds down
to a minimum. Thank you.
-Tom Attix

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	inti@webtv.net [SMTP:inti@webtv.net]
> Sent:	Saturday, December 13, 1997 11:40 AM
> To:	Tom Attix
> Subject:	Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp??????
> 
> Fuck Fripp.
> 
> Carlos R. Carrillo

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 13:58:43 -0700 (CST)
From: Kevin Simonson <simonson@uis.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: *NO FLASH PHOTO's* -- Fripp??????
Message-Id: <199712131958.AA139393123@eagle.uis.edu>
Content-Type: text
Content-Length:        183

...here we go again.
-- 
Kevin Simonson  	
Computer Science Graduate Program
University of Illinois - Springfield
simonson@uis.edu
"Knock loudly, they just installed new padding..."

------------------------------
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:12:52 -0700
From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Fripp, making friends in the audience again????
Message-Id: <v01540b00b0b888fa65dc@[199.4.94.166]>
Content-Type: text/plain

>I saw Fripp last night in Philly ... he never broke a sweat, presented
>himself as some judgemental overlord, and completed the evening by having a
>mutual masturbatory session with some members of the audience over the
>idiosyncracies of "Crim" factoids.  His playing was mediocre and it was
>more commercial than most anything I've heard in the genre ... commercial
>in that he was selling TC Electronic, Eventide, and Roland products through
>a constant manipulation of them.  He announced at the beginning that he
>didn't see the music as "precious" and that people should feel free to do
>what they want ... mill around and talk.  It was probably the most precious
>event I can recall being.  His use of loops and high-end gear is notable,
>however there is nothing more flat than an artist who demands an audience
>find something to appreciate in the repeated use of the same motifs, sounds
>and movement over a protracted period of time and then tell you he is not
>being precious.
>
>It was all art as commerce without substance.  To end the evening, he let
>everyone know that, "though he would not sully his hands in commerce", he
>did have Fedx'd in a large supply of CDs that he was selling ... but that
>his assistant would be doing that.
>

#1 A sense of humor is helpful in determining what appropriate and
unappropriate. I suspect the "Šsully his hands in commerce" comment is
simply that keen British sense of humor some Americans completely miss.

#2 Looking at several complaints in recent posts (early starting times,
extreme repetition combined with extensive signal processing, encouragement
for the audience to treat the experience as something different that a
"sit-down" concert) paint the picture of someone who is trying to find
better ways of allowing this music to happen.

Perhaps the typical concert setting, behaviors and time constraints don't
lend themselves to allowing "good loopage" to occur. I know Mr. Fripp
endeavours to present this material in all day installations at churches,
subways, etc. I remember as far back as his appearence at Mabuhay Gardens
(with the old Revox set-up), his comments to the effect that we'd have been
better off bringing pillows and relaxing on the floor to experience
Frippertronics. The emergence of "chill rooms" years later seems to me to
confirmed some small prescience on Mr. Fripps partŠ

The fact is this is someone who is deeply concerned with trying to balance
the sometimes unbalanceble extremes of art and commerce. Fripp seems to
truly care about making real music happen, instead of presenting a
pre-packaged format of material to promote record sales.

Even if his opinions make us uncomfortable, or are downright unfathomable
at times, we should be glad to someone who stills cares so deeply about
what he is doing after suffering in the music industry for so many yearsŠ

Happy Looping-

Mark

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:18:10 -0000
From: "Peter Thompson" <pt205@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Fripp - "Sully his hands in commerce"
Message-Id: <E0xgxyr-0000Es-00@violet.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

It's true - Americans really have no concept of irony do they?

----------
From: Mark Landman <landman@wco.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Fripp, making friends in the audience again????
Date: 13 December 1997 19:12

>I saw Fripp last night in Philly ... he never broke a sweat, presented
>himself as some judgemental overlord, and completed the evening by having
a
>mutual masturbatory session with some members of the audience over the
>idiosyncracies of "Crim" factoids.  His playing was mediocre and it was
>more commercial than most anything I've heard in the genre ... commercial
>in that he was selling TC Electronic, Eventide, and Roland products
through
>a constant manipulation of them.  He announced at the beginning that he
>didn't see the music as "precious" and that people should feel free to do
>what they want ... mill around and talk.  It was probably the most
precious
>event I can recall being.  His use of loops and high-end gear is notable,
>however there is nothing more flat than an artist who demands an audience
>find something to appreciate in the repeated use of the same motifs,
sounds
>and movement over a protracted period of time and then tell you he is not
>being precious.
>
>It was all art as commerce without substance.  To end the evening, he let
>everyone know that, "though he would not sully his hands in commerce", he
>did have Fedx'd in a large supply of CDs that he was selling ... but that
>his assistant would be doing that.
>

#1 A sense of humor is helpful in determining what appropriate and
unappropriate. I suspect the "Šsully his hands in commerce" comment is
simply that keen British sense of humor some Americans completely miss.

#2 Looking at several complaints in recent posts (early starting times,
extreme repetition combined with extensive signal processing, encouragement
for the audience to treat the experience as something different that a
"sit-down" concert) paint the picture of someone who is trying to find
better ways of allowing this music to happen.

Perhaps the typical concert setting, behaviors and time constraints don't
lend themselves to allowing "good loopage" to occur. I know Mr. Fripp
endeavours to present this material in all day installations at churches,
subways, etc. I remember as far back as his appearence at Mabuhay Gardens
(with the old Revox set-up), his comments to the effect that we'd have been
better off bringing pillows and relaxing on the floor to experience
Frippertronics. The emergence of "chill rooms" years later seems to me to
confirmed some small prescience on Mr. Fripps partŠ

The fact is this is someone who is deeply concerned with trying to balance
the sometimes unbalanceble extremes of art and commerce. Fripp seems to
truly care about making real music happen, instead of presenting a
pre-packaged format of material to promote record sales.

Even if his opinions make us uncomfortable, or are downright unfathomable
at times, we should be glad to someone who stills cares so deeply about
what he is doing after suffering in the music industry for so many yearsŠ

Happy Looping-

Mark



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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:32:24 -0800
From: madmaxxx@pop.slip.net (Ian Reid Maxwell)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: UNDO MALFUNCTION ON ECHOPLEX(Is it broken?,  Anyone else have this experience?)
Message-Id: <v02130501b0b849758eca@[207.171.230.245]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I own an echoplex.  It seems as though my Undo function is broken.  It
undoes everything.  It seems to
act just as the record function by erasing everything(or I guess recording
an empty loop).  If I use a
short press it records, and if I use a long press it resets just like the
record function does.  Help!!!!!!!
I'm new at this.  Am I doing something wrong?  Is it something an upgrade
will fix?
     I've read just about everything on the Echoplex web pages.  I have
experienced some of the other
bugs in the old software , but I have not found anything discussing the
undo function acting this way
     Again Help!!!!!!!!!


                             Ried Maxwell
                             POWERLOUNGE RECORDS

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:58:52 -0800
From: madmaxxx@pop.slip.net (Ian Reid Maxwell)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: UNDO MALFUNCTION ON ECHOPLEX(Is it broken?,  Anyone else have this experience?)
Message-Id: <v02130503b0b853acf616@[207.171.230.245]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I own an Echoplex DP.  It seems as though my Undo function is broken.  It
undoes everything.  It seems to
act just as the record function by erasing everything(or I guess recording
an empty loop).  If I use a
short press it records, and if I use a long press it resets just like the
record function does.  Help!!!!!!!
I'm new at this.  Am I doing something wrong?  Is it something an upgrade
will fix?
     I've read just about everything on the Echoplex web pages.  I have
experienced some of the other
bugs in the old software , but I have not found anything discussing the
undo function acting this way
     Again Help!!!!!!!!!


                             Ried Maxwell
                             POWERLOUNGE RECORDS

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