------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 37 Today's Topics: Tony Williams... [ andre ] Re: Tony Williams... [ WBrake@aol.com ] Re: Tony Williams... [ Jon Durant <74074.1316@CompuServe.C ] Re: Musicianship, live technique, et [ nyfac ] Re: Musicianship, live technique, et [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hu ] RE: alternate footpedals for JamMons [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ] Re: alternate footpedals for JamMons [ nyfac ] Re: Musicianship, live technique, et [ Jon Durant <74074.1316@CompuServe.C ] Re: Musicianship, live technique, et [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Re: Tony Williams... [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ] Re: Tony Williams... [ Shelley ] a lost post...perhaps [ sarajane@tmbsbbs.com (Sarajane) ] Re: alternate footpedals for JamMons [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ] Tim Reynolds looping with Dave Matth [ Dan Howarth ] Re: Tony Williams... [ andre ] Florida Guitar Show [ future perfect ] Re: Florida Guitar Show [ BobbyZZZ@aol.com ] Re: Tony Williams... [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ] Arcana (was Re: Tony Williams...) [ lowfrqcy@west.net (Ryan Blum) ] Re: Anti-MIDI looping [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Re: Musicianship, live technique, et [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Adham Shaikh, Soleilmoon.com, Kyma, [ Jim Coker ] Makin' a move... [ KILLINFO@aol.com ] Re: Adham Shaikh, Soleilmoon.com, Ky [ RA336@aol.com ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:07:14 -0500 (EST) From: andre To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Tony Williams... Message-Id: <199702260607.BAA27961@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Lets all give some thought to the great work of one of the masters... Tony Williams. i know this is not exactly Loop-material... but it's somehow related.. Tony died at 51 this week, of a heart attack , following gall bladder surgery.. RIP thanks for defining the groove. thanks to Miles for grabbing him at 17 ! Do a Loop for Tony tonight. I know i will cheers. andre' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 03:11:58 -0500 (EST) From: WBrake@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Tony Williams... Message-ID: <970226031158_650945041@emout15.mail.aol.com> I couldn't agree more. A fusion pioneer, Tony created music that was new and interesting, much like many of us. He will be greatly missed! Will Funkster ------------------------------ Date: 26 Feb 97 07:32:21 EST From: Jon Durant <74074.1316@CompuServe.COM> To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: Tony Williams... Message-ID: <970226123220_74074.1316_GHP68-2@CompuServe.COM> Tony. Hmmm. Sad day. He will sorely be missed by all. One of the great musicians ever to grace these pathetic little ears. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:58:46 -0500 From: nyfac To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Musicianship, live technique, etc... Message-ID: <331487E6.41C6@nyfac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have always been able to easily list my career objectives as a musician: 1) Be in a band with friends. 2) Play at least three times a week with good equipment. 3) Have everybody in the band like what the other members are doing. 4) Record a lot. Without these four things, no band is really successful (unless they are making TONS of money :-)). With them, nothing else really matters. Oddly enough, I have yet to be in a wholly successful band. Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:25:16 GMT From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Musicianship, live technique, etc... Message-Id: <17892.199702261525@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > A truly inspiring thing >to have Tony Levin playing on it, then having DT mix it! Wow. Well, I'm getting new viruses delivered soon! Nahh... you win. Congratulations! I'm jealous again!!! >Michael wrote: >>Sometimes I worry that too many musicians are trying to be artists, too few >>trying to be entertainers. > >Hmmm. Interesting thread. The artist/entertainer line is very fine. (not unlike >the line between "clever and stupid"!!!) I'm reminded of the Torn/Trilok Gurtu >show at the Bottom Line in New York a coupla years ago. Torn opened with his >"pretty loud guitar" set: artsitically very cool. As for entertainment value, I >suspect much of the crowd was kinda confused. Then Trilok's band came out and >put on a very tight, well executed thoroughly "choreographed" set. The crowd >responded quite enthusiastically. Especially to the vocal drumming by the >>entire band. I must admit I got a good chuckle out of it, and was really >taken >with how exceptional the chops level was. This is, perhaps, the balance; Torn's music was deeper, but the appeal of Trilok was broader. Those who "got" David's music may have gotten far more out of the experience, but those will shallower expectations, out for the evening after a long day at work and with a copy of Jazziz under their arm, jst wanted a good time. Remember also that we have an advantage over most of the audience, being musicians. Ever been told by a non-musician who "the greatest player in the world" is? Usually, they're pretty amusing. >So, Dr. Mike: I'm guilty as charged. I guess we're now big-time enemies!!! I thought we were after the Vortex debate :) What was that about??? Michael Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg, Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979 University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K. "Wha's like us? Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:35:22 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: alternate footpedals for JamMonster? Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Trevor stated:"I was thinking that it would be a swell idea to use two >sustain pedals >plugged into this Y-dingus and has a slightly more tap friendly pedal >contraption. Will this work? Do I need the normally open kind or the >normally closed?" > >I do not think the sustain pedals will work as well as the momentary >switch because you have many increments of open and only one increment of >closed. I suspect that the switch will respond in a faster manner. The >switches are normally open. > Actually, a sustain pedal works great. One tap starts recording, a second tap stops it, just like the stock footswitch, but it seems easier, for me at least, to start recording a loop in time with the sustain pedal. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel, NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: improv@peak.org self promotional web-site: http://www.peak.org/~improv/ "A squid eating dough in a polyethelene bag is fast and bulbous, got me?" -Captain Beefheart ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:26:33 -0500 From: nyfac To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: alternate footpedals for JamMonster? Message-ID: <3315D1D9.41C6@nyfac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Trenkel wrote: > > Actually, a sustain pedal works great. One tap starts recording, a second > tap stops it, just like the stock footswitch, but it seems easier, for me > at least, to start recording a loop in time with the sustain pedal. When I had one pedal hooked up thru the y-splitter, it was acting a bit funky. Do you need to have two of them hooked up? How do you have yours hooked up, Dave? Trevor ------------------------------ Date: 26 Feb 97 13:16:16 EST From: Jon Durant <74074.1316@CompuServe.COM> To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: Musicianship, live technique, etc... Message-ID: <970226181616_74074.1316_GHP44-1@CompuServe.COM> Dr. Michael writes, >I thought we were after the Vortex debate :) What was that about??? Just that we're once again on opposite sides of the virtual fence. i.e. I worry that too many artists are too concerned about entertainment and not enough about music... Later, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:01:28 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Musicianship, live technique, etc... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Michael wrote: >>Sometimes I worry that too many musicians are trying to be artists, too few >>trying to be entertainers. To me, art can be usefull or not. If its not (to us), then it might be for the gods, and thus we never know its totaly useless. But its nice to find a situation where the art fits the needs of the public. Entertaining is probably just one of those situations. Or we have to distinguish between entertaining for dancing, working, loving, praying, military discipline, story telling... To entertain musicians, "art" would be the right form? Jon: >...And BTW, I really >like much of Trilok's music. It was the "entertainment" I couldn't accept. I >simply wanted to hear the music and the musicians, and the rest got in my way. > >So, Dr. Mike: I'm guilty as charged. I guess we're now big-time enemies!!! why? I liked Triloks druming a lot, too, and ended up buying his CD crazy saints, and do not listen to it... I met him about two years ago and he was very much interested in looping and thought he could do a show with a ex WeatherReport member on this base. But then I never heard of him again. Does anyone know whether these shows happend, whether he does looping, or his email adress? Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:30:13 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Tony Williams... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Lets all give some thought to the great work of one of the masters... > >Tony Williams. > > > >i know this is not exactly Loop-material... but it's somehow related.. Tony >died at 51 this week, of a heart attack , following gall bladder surgery.. > >RIP > >thanks for defining the groove. thanks to Miles for grabbing him at 17 ! > >Do a Loop for Tony tonight. I know i will > This is the saddest thing I've heard all week. 51 was far too young. His playing on the Arcana CD of last year, with Derek Bailey and Bill Laswell, showed that he was still an innovator. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel, NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: improv@peak.org self promotional web-site: http://www.peak.org/~improv/ "A squid eating dough in a polyethelene bag is fast and bulbous, got me?" -Captain Beefheart ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:59:38 -0700 From: Shelley To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Tony Williams... Message-ID: <331506AA.392D@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had the opportunity to see Tony Williams in early January at Yoshi's nightclub in Oakland California with mulgrew miller and other young lions forming a solid quartet. Tony was extremely percussive - sometimes pushing out the other players with a his explosive runs. I had mixed feelings after the show - his sound and approach was so overwhelming that the other players as opposed to say Paul Motian and Blakey - but his was a volcanic force to be reckoned with - an approach - that the tone of wood, skins and stick is in itself a melodic attack not unlike that of a cecil taylor on piano or an ornette on Sax. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:27:40 GMT From: sarajane@tmbsbbs.com (Sarajane) To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: a lost post...perhaps Message-Id: <970226220003333@tmbsbbs.com> And again..... I don't believe the folowing post made it across the vast expanse of cyberspace that seemingly surrounds Colorado.Also let me pre-P.S. that I remember hearing Elvin Jones talk about the fact that once in Philadelphia at a gig wth Coltrane they did a three hour rendition of this one tune and that the experience was not lost on either the players or the audience.Also Mr. Williams will be sorely missed....51 years old...man that sucks.PeaceDear Loopers, In response to this thread of artists/entertainers perhaps the problem lies in perspective or lack thereof. Instrumental music is truly blessed with a total absence of the linquistics and semantics broohaha that seems to scuttle and leave for dead the majority of other musical styles. It's sad enough that even without this burden there is the perpetual critical analysis of the form as it relates to composition and notation. Critics make more money talking about this vapid pursuit of labels and form than most musicians will ever see as result of having created the work in question, furthering that insulted injury by requiring one to declare his/her intention (art or entertainment) is poor use of our limited time on this plane of existance and of no value musically, though an interesting exercise in verbal play. In that the majority of the works created in the forum of "looped" music falls clearly into the instrumental (or at least non-lyrical) catagory, I propose that this music and it's players deserve a kinder fate than can possibly be reached through an extended dialogue about labels and the value therein. Bryan Helm (Looper...not artist.. not entertainer) "Shut up and play yer guitar" Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:16:31 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: alternate footpedals for JamMonster? Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Dave Trenkel wrote: >> > >> Actually, a sustain pedal works great. One tap starts recording, a second >> tap stops it, just like the stock footswitch, but it seems easier, for me >> at least, to start recording a loop in time with the sustain pedal. > >When I had one pedal hooked up thru the y-splitter, it was acting a bit >funky. Do you need to have two of them hooked up? > >How do you have yours hooked up, Dave? > The pedal I'm using has 2 piano-style sustain pedals in one housing, with a stereo 1/4" plug on the attached cord. There's no brand name listed on the pedal, but I think it may be a Roland, I got it on a trade deal with a Roland keyboard. I found it on a bvax one day, plugged it into the j-man, and it's worked fine ever since. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel, NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: improv@peak.org self promotional web-site: http://www.peak.org/~improv/ "A squid eating dough in a polyethelene bag is fast and bulbous, got me?" -Captain Beefheart ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:30:28 -0700 (MST) From: Dan Howarth To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com cc: stickwire-l@netcom.com Subject: Tim Reynolds looping with Dave Matthews Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII the above two fellas came by Tucson the other night for a relaxed acoustic show. it was quite fun; i was fifteen feet away (working security) for the whole show, so i had a great view. if you don't know TR, he's the acoustic/electric wizard who appears on all DMband albums, as well as Greg Howard's Shapes album, and three Sticks and Stones albums with Greg. he played Dave's songs with flair, adding McLaughlin-like flashy runs into the popsongs. best part, though, was his use of two Boss pedals and a volume/wah pedal to accentuate everything going on. i don't know the pedals, but he was able to setup reverbs, delays, loops, pitch-shift, and samples. in any case, he set up beautiful looped drones and frippian ostinatos. he did a solo spot which included a workout of some piece he'd written - which seemed to use every single aspect of his two pedals. he also frequently detuned the low E string to the root of the appropriate song for LOW bass lines. i think he was using a Martin (probably one of those D28 dreadnought things). interesting effect: percussive knocks on the body of the acoustic, which were pitch-shift/detuned to thicken and then delayed - and then looped into a backbeat for the song. anyhow... a great show, for frat boys, hippies, and loopers alike. **************************************************************** ** Dan Howarth, History/Music, University of Arizona, Tucson ** ** http://www.u.arizona.edu/~howarth (under construction) ** **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:24:23 -0500 (EST) From: andre To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Tony Williams... Message-Id: <199702272024.PAA23856@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >This is the saddest thing I've heard all week. 51 was far too young. His >playing on the Arcana CD of last year, with Derek Bailey and Bill Laswell, >showed that he was still an innovator. damn =- thanks for reminding me---i had heard about that and still don't have it - isn't there 2 cds out of those guys? or at least 2 with Laswell...? peace, andre ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:04:09 -0500 From: future perfect To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Florida Guitar Show Message-ID: <331620F9.1A2D@gte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just to let y'all know that this Saturday (March 1st), a few of the subscribers to this list will be playing at the Florida Guitar Show at Thoroughbred Music in Clearwater. My group is called "Future Perfect" and while its not loopy stuff per se, its a mix of ambient/prog/Rennaissancy (the band and time period) music..lots of midi guitar, Soundscapes, flute etc. LVX NOVA will also perform (I can't wait to see them!!!)...I know we play at 11:30am, but I'm not sure when LVX NOVA is playing. My band also played there at another event back in October, and we were lucky enough to have Patrick Moraz in the audience!! He seemed to like it, and even requested we play a King Crimson song..ah, delight! Anyway, hope to see some of ya out there!! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:57:58 -0500 (EST) From: BobbyZZZ@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Florida Guitar Show Message-ID: <970227195755_-1941730714@emout04.mail.aol.com> n a message dated 2/27/97 7:38:25 PM, you wrote: >ust to let y'all know that this Saturday (March 1st), a few of the >subscribers to this list will be playing at the Florida Guitar Show at >Thoroughbred Music in Clearwater. My group is called "Future Perfect" >and while its not loopy stuff per se, its a mix of >ambient/prog/Rennaissancy (the band and time period) music..lots of midi >guitar, Soundscapes, flute etc. LVX NOVA will also perform (I can't wait >to see them!!!)...I know we play at 11:30am, but I'm not sure when LVX >NOVA is playing. My band also played there at another event back in >October, and we were lucky enough to have Patrick Moraz in the >audience!! He seemed to like it, and even requested we play a King >Crimson song..ah, delight! Anyway, hope to see some of ya out there!! >Dave hi all! yes, LVX NOVA will be there at the Florida Guitar Show. should be a fun day, i always enjoy playing the show and meeting all the guitarists that come every year. LVX NOVA will be performing at 1:30 pm in the gardens, however, it will be myself along with a DAT tape...my partner mike is doing a gig a bit too far south to make it back for saturday afternoon (boo hiss :-)). hope to see any of you there! and thanks for all the trade offers i got for the LVX NOVA CD, i can't wait to hear all of your music. the "fingerpaint" cassette is really cool, i've had that one in my tape player a few times this week :-) 300 tons of flax! bobby d/lvx nova ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:59:15 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Tony Williams... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>This is the saddest thing I've heard all week. 51 was far too young. His >>playing on the Arcana CD of last year, with Derek Bailey and Bill Laswell, >>showed that he was still an innovator. > > >damn =- thanks for reminding me---i had heard about that and still don't >have it - isn't there 2 cds out of those guys? or at least 2 with Laswell...? > >peace, andre I think there's another Arcana disc either recently released or soon to be so, with 2 horn players replacing Bailey, I think it's Byard Lancaster and Pharoah Sanders, but I'm not to positive on that. But the Bailey/Laswell/Williams disc is phenomenal, I can't recommend it highly ebough. It's where fusion should have gone after the early LIfetime/Mahavishnu records. It's on the Japanese DIW label, and it's called "Arcana: The Last Wave" ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel, NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: improv@peak.org self promotional web-site: http://www.peak.org/~improv/ "A squid eating dough in a polyethelene bag is fast and bulbous, got me?" -Captain Beefheart ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: lowfrqcy@west.net (Ryan Blum) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Arcana (was Re: Tony Williams...) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello... >I think there's another Arcana disc either recently released or soon to be >so, with 2 horn players replacing Bailey, I think it's Byard Lancaster and also, it said in that Guitar Player 30th anniversary issue (with all the wackos =) ) that buckethead would be on a Arcana disc with laswell, pharoah, tony williams, and others. Did anything come of this? Ryan ---- Ryan Blum "...to play 'Giant Steps' because you can seems lowfrqcy@west.net ridiculous to me. I went through that, but ironwood stick #918 I was 14 years old." - John Medeski ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:43:55 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Anti-MIDI looping Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" bobby devito said, a while ago: >hi all! > i need to decide between the Echoplex and the TC 2290 for delays and looping >for live work. has anyone been able to contact Oberheim for service lately? i >have heard some SAD things about their support lately....can the echoplex >sync up to MIDI clock? we only have one MIDI-CV converter in our band so >far....any of you out there use the TC 2290??? i can get my hands on one for >pretty cheap, and it's been memory expanded already...please help if you're >out there :-) I think nobody answered this... I used the 2290 between 85 and 88 and made a lot of nice music with it. In terms of sound quality its marvelous. The mechanics (keys etc) could not be better. The design is beautyfull and the display clear - one of the best audio processors made. BUT: Its not really a looping device. While you record the first bit (using LEARN as tap) you hear a repetition in the old tempo. Even Overdub you have to create first, either with external HW or programming the machine (I did not have the sound on sound option) To multiply, I read the display, multiplied it in my head and typed the value in the key pad. Feedback is only analog. Either you freeze, or you loose each repetition (very little though, the quality is amazing). No Undo, no sync, no brother no insert no inverse no... Its too big and heavy for my handy rack. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:43:47 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Musicianship, live technique, etc... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" David said: >These are great questions that any improvisor has to face, and the problems >are made worse by the dense and often static nature of looping music. For me, the loop was the popularizer of my music. Its still not exactly comercial, but repetition makes it easy to digest. When I play without loop nothing ever repeats. I keep changing and traveling through harmonies and rythms... its a special style, which only makes sense, if the listener is following closely or not paying atention at all, while the loop lets people wave into the wave.. I liked Davids exercises and would like to add one: 1. Start with an idiot simple rule like playing over just one cord without rythm and try doing it beautifull. Thats not easy. Do not critisize the simplicity but love the sound. 2. When you feel realy well and synced with the partner, slowly let go and play other harmonies and start rhythms, never pushing it, so you continue feeling fine (never mind some passing disharmony). After a (long) while you note that you play complex things you thought you could only play together with previous planing. Doing this frequently you end up having the toolbox, the licks, the camp of possibilities David is writing about, without beeing conscious of it. On stage you play fine, thinking that ist all new (which passes a fresh feeling to the public!), while really you just move around in the camp you determined by all the previous sessions (and extend it a little!). Just ideas Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:42:34 -0800 From: Jim Coker To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Adham Shaikh, Soleilmoon.com, Kyma, Computer Music Tutorial Message-ID: <33166223.1F49@interaccess.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wanted to poke in with a few items that should be of interest to loopers: Adham Shaikh has a new ambient CD out on Instinct Records w/ guitarist Tim Floyd. This stuff is very reminicent of Eno's On Land, as well as Eno and Michael Brook's Hybrid, with lots of looped ambient sounds, acoustic guitar, and creative reverberation. I'm also a big fan of Adham's earlier disk, Journey to the Sun. The record label Soleilmoon has a new web site, http://www.soleilmoon.com. They carry loads of interesting obscure stuff, like the tribal-ambient band 'O Yuki Conjugate'. I've been sending them email to try to get them to put sound clips on their site, like the excellent one Alchemy has :) I was lucky enough to spend some time with the Kyma system at Symbolic Sound a couple weeks ago, and have to say that in addition to all the other things it can do, Kyma makes a kick-ass looper. The wavetable RAM (i.e. were digital audio is held) can be configured to hold any number of delays and samples, then sampler objects can be used to read from delays or samples (or any part of wavetable memory). The sampler objects can have their playback rates and looping points modified in real time by any control signal (midi CC, envelope folowers, etc). Using an lfo on the playback rate, we were able to get a chorus effect, and by moving the looping points w/ midi CC messages, all sorts of neat rythmic modulations could be created from a simple starting pattern. There are various mixer objects that can be used to layer signals, and on top of all that, the system can read and write audio to disk at any point in the signal chain. Anyway, there's an awful lot of depth to Kyma. If anyone's interested, I could probably be coerced into writing more. One thing that was really impressive is how friendly Carla Scaletti and Kurt Hebel are, and how dedicated they are to this system. Here is clearly one of those rare cases where a wonderful idea has not been diluted by its implementation. One last note, somewhat related to the above, I recently picked up a new book by Curtis Roads, _The Computer Music Tutorial_, which has all sorts of useful information out synthesis (subtractive, additive, FM, waveshaping, physical modelling, the whole enchilada), as well as related things such as midi, effects processing, and such, all of it covered in a very clear, readable style. It has, for instance, the best descriptions of phasing and flanging I've seen anywhere. It also has a truly exhaustive set of references for anyone who is looking for more. Not cheap ($55), but well worth it. jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:50:47 -0500 (EST) From: KILLINFO@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Makin' a move... Message-ID: <970228105046_-904301352@emout13.mail.aol.com> Greetings Loopers, I have just recently been offered a job opportunity in the Pacific Northwest (Medford, Oregon to br exact) that is simply too good to pass up. So, I'll soon be leaving my position at Seymour Duncan and hittin' the new "Oregon Trail", I-5. Any loopfolk in that neck of the woods? Ted Killian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:14:15 -0500 (EST) From: RA336@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Adham Shaikh, Soleilmoon.com, Kyma, Computer Music Tutorial Message-ID: <970228111413_752558759@emout13.mail.aol.com> please to write more about KYMA if you've a mind to... thanks! --------------------------------