------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 6 Today's Topics: Re: Introduction... [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Re: echoplex weirdness [ James Reynolds ] e-plex sample dump: rate conversion? [ James Reynolds ] Italian loopers [ Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuSer ] Re: building our own looper [ David Trenkel ] Re: echoplex weirdness [ The Man Himself ] Re: Italian loopers [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] LOOP delay at NAMM! [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Re: e-plex sample dump: rate convers [ kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) ] RE: Italian loopers [ Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuSer ] Re: Jam Man Memory expansion [ James Reynolds ] Re: echoplex weirdness [ Trevor Bajus ] Re: building our own looper [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] looper vs sequencer [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] RE: Italian loopers [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Re: echoplex weirdness [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] Zoom 8080: The shape of things to co [ pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hu ] Meeting of Loopfolk @ NAMM [ KILLINFO@aol.com ] loopers meet @namm [ Texture444@aol.com ] Re: loopers meet @namm [ Paolo Valladolid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Welcome, uncle! Thats fun. Here in Bahia, it is usual, that anyone calls any known or unknown person the way he just feels. So kids call me "tio" (uncle), I call the waiter "master", a girl "beauty", the leader calls his musician "my king" and mothers call their doughter "mother" and you are even allowed to call a fat man "fat man". Its really marvelous. There are also people that simply call everbody "father" and "mother" and do not remember names. >Echoplex I bought recently (actually spending an unbelievable $1000 for >an used unit!) has been like the holy grail for Sir Lancelot. Is it that rare in Europe?! >I've been playing with a Roland SDE-3000 in 2x mode (well, 6" of >very-low-quality delay). Dazzling. Thats how I started, it '85. "Playmate" they called the taping function on it, but it takes a while to establishes the delayed sound. By then the rhythm is gone... Hope to hear more about looping italians... matthias ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 19:41:26 -0800 From: James Reynolds To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: echoplex weirdness Message-Id: <199701120341.TAA20313@dsp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi kim et al, >>does anyone else's plex produce unpleasant clicks and pops when reversing a >>loop? the more i reverse and re-reverse, the more clicks get added to the >>signal. > >The current software does that on occasion. It bothers some people a lot >more than others, and I think there is some hardware dependancy where some >units are simply worse than others. i think you're right about the hardware dependency. in the FAQ (or maybe it was the digest) someone mentions this problem as happening "occasionally". but with my unit it happens every time. i use a lot of textural loops, so the clicks really stand out. i'm glad to hear it's fixed in the upgrade, though. >>also, my unit seems inordinately noisy, even with a healthy signal level >>(the playback is much noisier than the direct sound). normal? i left a >>space below it in my rack for ventilation, so i don't think it's overheating. > >This could depend heavily on how you set your signal levels. Make sure the >input is up enough so that your loudest signals are just shy of clipping >the digital audio in the loop. You should get something greater than 85dB >signal/noise ratio in that case. ... >On high-end equipment, you might notice a >higher noise floor in the loop audio than in the direct path. This is hard >to avoid, since the dynamic range of the direct analog path is much greater >than that of the digital loop path. i played with my plex some more and i think you're right about the signal levels. the problem is i like to make loops with widely varying dynamic ranges. but when i keep the signal at the point where the orange light is usually on (tricky to do without clipping), it sounds much better. furthermore, the noise i was talking about is kind of a buzzy digital overtone that occurs on an input signal is present, probably due to the inherent dynamic range of digital audio. >places still sell the 80ns types which are cheaper still. LLB's current add >in MacWeek has 80ns, 4MB, 30 pin SIMMs at $29 each. These will work fine. > from the URL i mentioned (www.thechipmerchant.com) i ordered four of the 60ns 4MB SIMMS for 29 bucks each. the price was actually the same for the 70ns. also, thanks for the input on "low-noise" simms - i think with my fairly complex signal path, which produces a certain amount of its own noise, any benefits from fancy-schmancy simms would not be noticeable. one more newbie question: will the legendary "upgrade" be just a rom chip that can be bought at a store and user-installed? or is there some kind of magical ceremony that must be performed by a qualified tech/priest? thanks for the help, kim! james ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 19:48:12 -0800 From: James Reynolds To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: e-plex sample dump: rate conversion? Message-Id: <199701120348.TAA20386@dsp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, Considering the fact that the plex samples at 41 khz, it seems to me that if you were to dump a loop into a hard-disk recording system (thereby avoiding the noise of an analog transfer), you would need to do a sample rate conversion to the standard 44.1 khz for printing a CD. Has anyone done this, and are the artifacts produced by the conversion noticeable? In this kind of situation, would it make more sense to transfer the samples analog? Thanks, James ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jan 97 04:33:25 EST From: Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuServe.COM> To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Italian loopers Message-ID: <970112093324_100041.247_JHB62-1@CompuServe.COM> Matthias says, > Hope to hear more about looping italians... Fripp always had quite a lot of fans especially in Italy, and I think his music got a number of Italian musicians interested in looping. I had the privilege to participate in two wonderful Guitar Craft courses in Italy, and I met several Italian musicians there who use loops in their music. Michael Peters private: 100041.247@compuserve.com work: mp@harold-scholz.de http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:31:42 -0800 (PST) From: David Trenkel To: "A.S.P." cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: building our own looper Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, A.S.P. wrote: > > Hello Loopheads, > > I've been lurking on this list for a couple of weeks and am enjoying it > quite a bit. > > The reason I got on the list is because I'm seriously contemplating > getting an Oberheim Echoplex. I recently finished building my first > modular synthesizer. I bought an Emax II sampler to complement it, but > I'm finding that non-realtime instruments less and less attractive. One > thing I'm trying to figure out is if the Echoplex would be redundant, > because I use an analogue sequencer to drive the modular, which in essence > is an "analogue" of a tape loop. Do any of you use loop delays with > synths and sequencers? > I do, in fact for the last few days I've been using 4 looping delays in a synth setup (JamMan, LXP-5, Vortex AND Echoplex, but the 'plex is borrowed and will be going away in a few days), and I think that the loopers integrate well. The synths are mostly elderly analogs, + a Roland MC303. I can think of several good reasons to use a looper along with an analog sequencer. One thing I love to do is set up an interesting sequence, loop it into the JamMan, then change the tempo of the original sequence by a bpm or 2, against the loop still playing at the original tempo, with the 2 moving in and out of phase with each other. Instant Steve Reich! In fact, I had a couple of loops like this that I left running for 2 days recently. It took something like 6 hours for the downbeats to coincide. This isn't really something you could pull off live, I doubt most audiences have that kind of patience, but it can be pretty interesting in a hardcore minimalist sense. Also, on a more practical level, I could see using the looper to expand the polyphony of your synth. Set up a pattern on the sequencer, loop it, then use the sequencer to develop new material against the loop. You could probably even use the looper as another oscillator in the modular system, sending loops into filters, modulators, whatever. Actually, I'm starting to get really jealous of the possibilities you'd have with a modular synth and a looper.... Have fun! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:19:25 -0800 (PST) From: The Man Himself To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: echoplex weirdness Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, James Reynolds wrote: > furthermore, the noise i was talking about is kind of a buzzy digital > overtone that occurs on an input signal is present, probably due to the > inherent dynamic range of digital audio. I noticed this problem about three months ago, when I thought that my Echoplex had been damaged due to its rack falling off a chair. I was noticing a great deal of extra noise (or "aliasing") and I also noticed that signals would drop out if they fell below a certain input level. After much panic and a near nervous breakdown, I was informed via this list that the noise problem was due to the input level being too low, and the dropouts were attributable to an internal noise gate which is used in conjunctions with the UNDO feature. The input level is a bit sensitive, and it can be tricky to find an ideal single setting that feeds the input sufficient level without crossing over into occasional clipping. Kim posted a hardware mod detailing how to upgrade the input circuit; I think it's in the Echoplex FAQ on the web site. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:32:03 -0800 From: Roland Eberle To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Jam Man Memory expansion Message-ID: <32D9AC7C.393C@ccnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all... I've just found the loopers page (thanks Kim...way cool) and subscribed to this list. Last week I came across a used (demo actually) jam man in a local music store and half jokingly offered the store manager $150 for it... I was prepared to pay upwards to $250-maybe $275 as I have wanted a looping device for about 8 mos now...(was inspired by a concert by Pierre Bensusan who used an Oberheim Echoplex...) I was flabbergasted when the guy said OK...everything appears intact- no manual,but the power supply, "ring tip" footswitch and a stereo cable were all included. No warranty, no box and ,again, no manual...but...YES baby! I was quite happy to find what I consider a real bargain. Anyway...I called Lexicon and they are sending me a manual (12 bucks including shipping...SHEESH!) Here's my question... I understand from numerous references that the jam man is expandable to 32 seconds...who can tell me what type of chips this requires...can it be done by a novice (I've built a few computers from components I've acquired on the cheap, so..I guess as long as it's as simple as plugging in SIMMS chips I could handle it...) I live in the S.F. Bay area so I would imagine the chips are readily available (unless its some funky older technolgy I've never heard of) in my area...how much should I expect to spend? Are they regular 30 or 72 pin Simms? etc etc.. any response will be greatly appreciated...thanks in advance. Roland Eberle roland@ccnet..com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:47:24 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Italian loopers Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Matthias says, > >> Hope to hear more about looping italians... Michael, full of good will: >Fripp always had quite a lot of fans especially in Italy, and I think his music >got a number of Italian musicians interested in looping. I had the privilege to >participate in two wonderful Guitar Craft courses in Italy, and I met several >Italian musicians there who use loops in their music. Me, never satisfied: FrippFrippFripp... how about italian folclore loops? Long time ago we used to call italian electric music "amore rock". Lots of dramatic tenors, with a long and strong tradition from the opera... Then I listened to Banco and Premiata Fornaria Marconi and another keyboard trio and then some jazzrock with the Rusticis... Later I fell in love with Zuccero... ... ah, and Pino Daniele is a client of PARADIS, but not for looping, I think, only the AVALONs, whereof there are more in Italy than in the rest of the world... .... but I do not really know what goes on in Italy. There must be a lot of instrumental virtuoso? Mattthias ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:02:52 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: LOOP delay at NAMM! Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry for my silly post about Italy. I have neither right nor reason to escape such moods into a nice group. I was out of my mind. But what really moved me, I should tell you: I just happend to know that Kuno Wagner (kuno.tap@t-online.de) will demonstrate Warr Guitar (http://www.warrguitars.com/warr) on a LOOP delay he is using for about three years! Isn't that nice? :-) Kuno Wagner happens to be one of the musicians that sent me a tape when I made the CD proposual to the LOOP delay users. Really nice Chapman Stick traveling. There is also a AVALON / Marimba piece by Andre Krikula and Conny Sommer and a flamenco piece by Renato Rizzo, both could be characterized as virtuoso playing with discrete dynamic loop suport. So the conicidence is that on fryday, I sent these pieces on CDR to Kim to show them to you NAMM visitors and I wanted to suggest that we add them to the Loopers Delight CD which does not seem to be full yet :-) . I will offer a copy of that CD to them then. Now you can see the man live! Happy again Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:27:27 -0800 From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: e-plex sample dump: rate conversion? Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Hi all, > >Considering the fact that the plex samples at 41 khz, it seems to me that if >you were to dump a loop into a hard-disk recording system (thereby avoiding >the noise of an analog transfer), you would need to do a sample rate >conversion to the standard 44.1 khz for printing a CD. yes, that's right. >Has anyone done >this, and are the artifacts produced by the conversion noticeable? Artifacts would depend on the sample rate convertor. I don't know anything about what's on the market for that, anyone know what's good? >In this >kind of situation, would it make more sense to transfer the samples analog? It would certainly be faster than midi sample dump! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 97 04:36:53 EST From: Michael Peters <100041.247@CompuServe.COM> To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Italian loopers Message-ID: <970113093652_100041.247_JHB67-1@CompuServe.COM> Matthias : > Then I listened to Banco and Premiata Fornaria Marconi and another keyboard > trio and then some jazzrock with the Rusticis... yes, lots of interesting stuff there ... I also loved Premiata Fornaria Marconi - they used to work with Pete Sinfield and were clearly influenced by early Crimson ... ah, but that was in another time, in another life, 1973 when I had long hair and funny looking shirts... :-) Michael Peters private: 100041.247@compuserve.com work: mp@harold-scholz.de http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:36:20 -0800 From: James Reynolds To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Jam Man Memory expansion Message-Id: <199701131036.CAA00729@dsp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi roland, >I understand from numerous references that the jam man is expandable to >32 seconds...who can tell me what type of chips this requires... unfortunately the jamperson uses ZIP ics, not SIMMs. it's older, rarer, more expensive technology. you can get the whole 32 sec worth (4 megs) from lexicon for an inflated $140, or you can try to find them from a chip dealer for probably about $100. they are user-installable, just open the box, pull out the old, and put in the new. hold the chips firmly so you don't bend the leads as you insert them, it's a tight fit. the manual says not to rock the ICs, but you'll probably need to rock them a little bit to get them to move. The manual says to use four 1M x 4 bit ZIP ICs, and lists the following compatible chips: motorola MCM54400AZ hitachi HM514400AZP nec D424400AZP fujitsu MB814400 mitsubishi M5M44400L micron MT4C4001JZ before performing the upgrade, the manual suggests disconnecting the jam man from its power supply. interestingly, it doesn't have any warnings against performing the upgrade underwater... good luck! james ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:02:32 +0000 From: Trevor Bajus To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: echoplex weirdness Message-ID: <32D9EC18.4B36@nyfac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The input level is a bit sensitive, and it can be tricky to find an ideal > single setting that feeds the input sufficient level without crossing over > into occasional clipping. Kim posted a hardware mod detailing how to > upgrade the input circuit; I think it's in the Echoplex FAQ on the web > site. Have any of you guys tried running a compressor before your looper? The MXR Dynacomp has served me well for a long time, as has my Behringer Composer noise gate/compressor. The Composer (which I bought for about $225 new) is a really nice unit. It sounds (when properly set) fairly transparent. Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:35:35 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: building our own looper Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dave Mitchell said >I'd like to see PAiA or a similar company (small, cheap, mailorder, >do-it-yourself-kits) come out with a looper. I do not think its simple enough >biggest impediment to me buying a Jamman, Echoplex or Boomerang is $$$ - I >just can't justify the cost for a single-purpose effect that I wouldn't be >using a lot of the time. For now, I'll stick to my crappy old Boss PS-2 >pedal with its 2 seconds of delay. Better not call it an "effect", because it does not alter sound, but record it. It can turn into your main tool, even replace a multitrack machine - at least be much more important that any effect ever could be... ...the problem is that you do not know until you use one for some time! >As an aside: with >memory coming down in price so fast recently, I can't see why you'd need to >feel limited by sample resolution or sample time any more - just build in >provision for the box to take standard SIMMs up to (say) 64Mb. true. This will also fascilitate to build sufficiant memory into a effect box, so it can have additional loop functions. Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:35:42 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: looper vs sequencer Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Romeo said: > I'm trying to figure out is if the Echoplex would be redundant, >because I use an analogue sequencer to drive the modular, which in essence >is an "analogue" of a tape loop. Do any of you use loop delays with >synths and sequencers? I made some of my best music with a keyboard player, both playing into a t.c. 2290. Not redundant! The differences to a sequencer are - Feedback, which you can use to change clima slowly and have old things soft in the background. - Overdub, that lets you layer infinitally. Especially interesting with a modular, where you can take your time to create sounds and keep layering them. Simple case: repeat the same phrase to thicken it! - the feel is somehow more played and less machine (?). - There are other functions a sequencer does not have (easily accessible). Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:37:13 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Italian loopers Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Matthias : >> Then I listened to Banco and Premiata Fornaria Marconi and another keyboard >> trio and then some jazzrock with the Rusticis... > >yes, lots of interesting stuff there ... >I also loved Premiata Fornaria Marconi - they used to work with Pete Sinfield >and were clearly influenced by early Crimson ... ... and Robert Fripp, you mean... :-) >ah, but that was in another >time, in another life, 1973 when I had long hair and funny looking >shirts... :-) I still have long hair and coloured shirts, that might be the problem... ;-) But I did not get stuck then, there just have been some movements I did not acompany - because I was working hard ;-) And now I would like to catch up and learn about what is going on. And here is not a very good place for this :-( Matthias ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:37:35 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: echoplex weirdness Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> The input level is a bit sensitive, and it can be tricky to find an ideal >> single setting that feeds the input sufficient level without crossing over >> into occasional clipping. Kim posted a hardware mod detailing how to >> upgrade the input circuit; I think it's in the Echoplex FAQ on the web >> site. > >Have any of you guys tried running a compressor before your looper? The MXR >Dynacomp has served me well for a long time, as has my Behringer Composer >noise >gate/compressor. > >The Composer (which I bought for about $225 new) is a really nice unit. >It sounds (when >properly set) fairly transparent. This is a smart solution, because outstanding peaks usually do not sound well in the loop anyway. Thats why we built that limiter in, but Kim screwed it up ;-) when he improved the noise. It still works, but it does not limit treble peaks properly. With avarage sound, it should be ok. Just try and overload the plex a bit to see! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:41:23 GMT From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Zoom 8080: The shape of things to come.... Message-Id: <17382.199701141041@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I don't think anyone's posted this yet, so... Has anyone checked out the Zoom 8080? It supposedly has 4 SECONDS of built-in delay, plus one of the footswitches is dedicated to tap/hold functions - ie it looks like a 4-sec looper on board. If that function takes off, maybe the next generation of processos will all have loopers built in - certainly it's not difficult to see the 9090/GT6/RP20 or whatever having 8 or more seconds. Looping for the masses? soon they'll all be at it, and we'll be just foices in the crowd.... Michael Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg, Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979 University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K. "Everything in moderation, including moderation" (Zen Proverb) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:32:58 -0500 (EST) From: KILLINFO@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Meeting of Loopfolk @ NAMM Message-ID: <970114110400_1791607363@emout07.mail.aol.com> Greetings There will be an informal meeting of SoCal Looper's Delight subscribers (and other musical malcontents) at the NAMM show in Anaheim this coming Saturday at noon at the Seymour Duncan Booth (#4331). Kim, Andre, Joe and I are already agreed to meeting there. If any of the rest of you can make it please feel free to join in. Ted Killian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:56:09 -0500 (EST) From: Texture444@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: loopers meet @namm Message-ID: <970114185413_781383890@emout16.mail.aol.com> a hale & hearty "hey!", o loopiest of folk! i'm loathe to admit that i've been so lurky, but: twixt family, life, music & travel, i've been crazed w/busy-ness: at the moment, i'm looping in japan w/ryuichi sakamoto: (me, rs & dj spooky are acting as "soloists" in front of rs' 70-piece multi-mediafied orchestra: all the concerts are internet-cast: check the sakamoto website, if ya wanna.....) wish i could get together w/y'all at this namm shindig! andre: i hope i didn't cut yer hose w/my letter; i just felt a wee bit misunderstood, there; never having been an idolater of bobby fripp, every once in a while i get tired of hearing his name being *equated* w/the art of looping, ya dig? s'pose it's a tad "small" of me, but..... s'all for now, david torn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:14:53 -0800 (PST) From: Paolo Valladolid To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: loopers meet @namm Message-Id: <199701150014.QAA12249@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > at the moment, i'm looping in japan w/ryuichi sakamoto: (me, rs & dj spooky > are acting as "soloists" in front of rs' 70-piece multi-mediafied orchestra: > all the concerts are internet-cast: check the sakamoto website, if ya > wanna.....) Anyone have the URL for this? Thanks, Paolo Valladolid ----------------------------------------------------------------- |Moderator of Digital Guitar Digest, an Internet mailing list |\ |for Music Technology and Stringed Instruments | \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- | \ finger pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu for more info \ | \ http://waynesworld.ucsd.edu/DigitalGuitar/home.html \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:06:29 -0500 From: Paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Phd) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: loopers meet @namm Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" where is the sakamoto site david paul >a hale & hearty "hey!", o loopiest of folk! >i'm loathe to admit that i've been so lurky, but: >twixt family, life, music & travel, i've been crazed w/busy-ness: > >at the moment, i'm looping in japan w/ryuichi sakamoto: (me, rs & dj spooky >are acting as "soloists" in front of rs' 70-piece multi-mediafied orchestra: >all the concerts are internet-cast: check the sakamoto website, if ya >wanna.....) > >wish i could get together w/y'all at this namm shindig! > >andre: i hope i didn't cut yer hose w/my letter; i just felt a wee bit >misunderstood, there; never having been an idolater of bobby fripp, every >once in a while i get tired of hearing his name being *equated* w/the art of >looping, ya dig? s'pose it's a tad "small" of me, but..... > >s'all for now, >david torn --------------------------------