Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: Re: looped music and the Web [ "Stephen P. Goodman" ] looped...web Thanks! [ Kevin Simonson ] Re: Soundbytes on a Website [ fred marshall ] where's Collier?... [ RA336@aol.com ] JamMan & MIDI sysnc [ miguel.barella@poyry.com.br ] Re: looped music and the Web [ SoundFNR@aol.com ] Re: JamMan modifications [ SoundFNR@aol.com ] Re: JamMan & MIDI sysnc [ SoundFNR@aol.com ] Official Gig Announcement [ PMimlitsch@aol.com ] Re: JamMan & MIDI sysnc [ Yonni Harif ] Re: Live Loops Monday nite.. [ BobbyZZZ@aol.com ] Re: Live Loops Monday nite.. [ Jonathan Kiebon ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:46 1997 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:06:04 -0700 From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Re: looped music and the Web Message-Id: <199704242306.QAA22333@usr05.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In creating a sound file for > this purpose one has to take the compositional issues of repetition and > loops into consideration. Personally I havent experienced many interesting > applications of looped music on the web, but I wonder if that is because > the people making these loops aren't "loopers" like us. The reason one doesn't see any looped material is that browsers don't really 'loop'. The main problem with utilizing the inboard feature of LOOP=TRUE in an audio href is that, due to the use of MCI controls in the browsers that run on PCs, the 'loop' is actually a REPEAT. There's an unacceptable gap of about 1/5 to 1/2 second between the end and restart of the piece. I've tried this and it just doesn't work yet. As a result I got a good friend of mine to write me an encapsulation routine that correctly plays my Loop Of The Week in downloadable .EXE format; and, to prevent the .WAV file I've got from attempting to just play one iteration, I had to put it in .ZIP format so people could download it without me having to tell people to Right-Click and choose Save Target As... over and over, which is a loop I don't want to perform! :) > Making looped music on the web interesting: > I think it would be difficult to make a single short duration audio file, > that loops over and over, sound interesting. There are other options > though. I don't like to appear to 'dis' anyone but I've been producing relatively short (3-7 seconds) loops for downloading off my web page at http://www.primenet.com/~sgoodman/Studios now for over a year. It's self-executing of course, but I like to think that the folks who keep coming back to download it each week find it a little interesting at least. :) > Most of the web sound players allow for playing of several looped sound > files at the same time. This allows for all the possibilities inherent in > layering loops or multi tracking loops. By playing loops of different > lengths one can create phasing and polyrhythmic effects that add variety > and change to the composition over a long period of time. I've only been able to find one Java routine out there that does the above, and no proprietary formats that support correct looping to my knowledge. As is, Java only supports playing Sun format .AU files, and only 8KHz mono files at that - though it produces a nice layering effect as described above. I just wish it was higher quality, but perhaps this shall occur in the future. * Stephen Goodman It's the Loop Of The Week! And it's free! * EarthLight Productions http://www.primenet.com/~sgoodman/Studios From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:47 1997 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:06:09 -0800 From: fred marshall To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com CC: buzz@macromedia.com Subject: Re: Soundbytes on a Website Message-ID: <335FF569.1169@fredmarshall.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark wrote: > What should I do to reduce the size of the file and make downloading faster? > > Thanks, > Mark Kata > Mark@asisoftware.com =================================== &fm suggested: - yo! - sounds like you're ready for Shockwave Streaming Audio! (from Macromedia) - you can hear my band, Marshall Arts, using Shockwave Streaming Audio (a six and a half minute complete selection from our c.d. that loads and starts playing in under 10 seconds). http://www.fredmarshall.com/ - millions (seriously) of people have downloaded the software to hear this (free), and hundreds of thousands of sites are "Shocked", so it seems to be the developing "standard". - for information go to the macromedia.com site, and for unusual and original requirements you might try buzz@macromedia.com (he's the backstage brains behind this miracle). mmmmmmm &buzz added: =============================================== Subject: Re: [Re: Soundbytes on a Website] Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 15:20:12 -0700 From: buzz@macromedia.com (Buzz Kettles) To: fred@fredmarshall.com please send them your first letter with this addendum - Just a note about the delivery of sound streams over the Internet MPEG2 is good, BUT Shockwave Audio features MPEG layer 3 encoding, (for optimum streaming quality vs connect speed) Over an ISDN, it's real close to CD quality. & We have even done LIVE streaming of a George Clinton concert (last November). & since Shockwave for Director is the actual serving mechanism, you can make your player/controller look like anything you can dream up ! -Buzz ========================================== From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:48 1997 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 17:41:22 -0700 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: looped music and the Web Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970425004122.009ba674@pop.chromatic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:06 PM 4/24/97 -0700, you wrote: >The reason one doesn't see any looped material is that browsers don't >really 'loop'. The main problem with utilizing the inboard feature of Check out the Beatnik plugin from Headspace. (www.headspace.com) It's a ridiculously cool audio widget that should be a must-have for everyone. It handles looping just fine, even allowing multiple files and midi to play at once. It also handles interactive audio very well. I went to several demonstration sites that essentially let you compose/arrange on the fly. For those that don't know, Headspace was founded by Thomas Dolby. (the blinded me with science guy). A friend and former coworker of mine is VP of engineering there, and since he has a pair of echoplexes in his guitar rack, that might explain the solid looping functionality in Beatnik. kim _______________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-752-9284 VLSI Systems Engineering kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:48 1997 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:07:02 -0600 (CDT) From: Kevin Simonson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: looped...web Thanks! Message-Id: <199704250107.AA210090422@eagle.uis.edu> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 709 'just wanted to say thanks for everyone's contributions with this current discussion thread. I have yet to encounter another group with more creativity, tolerance for diversity, grace, intelligence, and general willingness to go beyond Fripp...;) Token Gear List: Juno-60 GR-505 GR-300 Jamman some EH stuff E-Bow -- Kevin Simonson * AS/400 Application Development Team University of Illinois-Springfield * Programmer / Analyst Computer Science, et al. * Norwest Mortgage, Inc. simonson@eagle.uis.edu * Springfield, IL 1 amount of tv I watch = ------ # of programs involving benevolent, anthropomorphic angels From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:48 1997 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 15:04:12 -0800 From: fred marshall To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Soundbytes on a Website Message-ID: <335FE6E7.7582@fredmarshall.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Kata wrote: > > I know this is off topic, but I've learned many useful things from my fellow loopers. > > I'm developing a website for a singer/songwriter and want to include brief (30 second) samples of his songs. > > I used the internal recorder in my PC while playing his CD on it. When I recorded an excerpt at "CD quality--mono" the file was 1.6MEG. Then I tried recording it at "Radio quality--mono" and the file was 700K. > > The 700K version took about 5 minutes to download from the Internet. > > What should I do to reduce the size of the file and make downloading faster? > > Thanks, > Mark Kata > Mark@asisoftware.com ========================================== - yo! - sounds like you're ready for Shockwave Streaming Audio! (from Macromedia) - you can hear my band, Marshall Arts, using Shockwave Streaming Audio (a six and a half minute complete selection from our c.d. that loads and starts playing in under 10 seconds). http://www.fredmarshall.com/ - millions (seriously) of people have downloaded the software to hear this (free), and hundreds of thousands of sites are "Shocked", so it seems to be the developing "standard". - for information go to the macromedia.com site, and for unusual and original requirements you might try buzz@macromedia.com (he's the backstage brains behind this miracle). mmmmmmm From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:48 1997 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 08:58:29 -0400 (EDT) From: andre To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: roland ms-1 sampler Message-Id: <199704251258.IAA08382@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hey loopers Anyone interested in a Roland MS-1 phrase sampler?? A neat little digital sampler/ loop device - it allows sampling up to 44.1 kHz - and with an added memory card (special pcm-cia cards) a max of 50 mins sampling is available - It's got 8 pads on the front so you can trigger the samples directly or from a keyb, gtr, drum pad, etc. sounds can be set up as single trigger or loops , and you can record sequences. Included - 500 sound sampling CD. This unit is from last year, but i see it out there for $399-479 This one is brand new, in the box with all papers, etc. - used at one gig. $250 C.O.D Ups, RPS, FEDex or whatever email me direct andre' From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:49 1997 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:09:50 -0400 (EDT) From: RA336@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: where's Collier?... Message-ID: <970425100948_-767523760@emout02.mail.aol.com> non-loop related posting here, but I was wondering if anyone could mail in Collier Hyams email address which I have lost... Many thanks in advance or: Collier if you read this get in touch quick okay? best, Robby Aceto From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:49 1997 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 97 12:39:50 TZ3 From: miguel.barella@poyry.com.br To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Cc: ghogan@lexicon.com Subject: JamMan & MIDI sysnc Message-Id: <9703258619.AA861997246@jpccmail.poyry.com.br> Hello, I am facing the following problem with JamMan, that maybe somebody already solved and can give me some help. An SMPTE track (from an ADAT) drives a PC with Cakewalk that sends MIDI clock to JamMan. Fine, JamMan syncs properly! The problem is that in the beginning of every bar and/or loop JamMan introduces an audible perturbation on the sound. The silly solution I found is not to play in this spot but this keeps me away from continuos sounds and many other things. This does not happen when Jam Man is used alone or driving the computer or any other box. Any clues on how to solve this? Miguel From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:49 1997 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 14:34:23 -0400 (EDT) From: SoundFNR@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: looped music and the Web Message-ID: <970425143412_-400704205@emout12.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 24/04/97 8:55:31, you write: >Hi all, > >Since the topic of sound on the web has come up I would like to discuss the >web and looped music. > >Looping sounds solves download problems on the web: >As many of you know long playing sound files can take a loonnnggg time to >download and be heard. One solution is to take a shorter sound or midi >file and make it loop several times or infinitely. This way you have >shorter downloads and longer playing music. In creating a sound file for >this purpose one has to take the compositional issues of repetition and >loops into consideration. Personally I havent experienced many interesting >applications of looped music on the web, but I wonder if that is because >the people making these loops aren't "loopers" like us. As it happen's, I have a number of midi files which could easily class as loop related. Techniques like copying parts from one instrument to another, reversing sections, adding a transposition with a time displacement. Find them on my site at http://aol.members.com/soundfnr/ab.htm Andy Butler Midi files are quick to download, and can compress easily to about a third. From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:50 1997 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 14:34:10 -0400 (EDT) From: SoundFNR@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: JamMan modifications Message-ID: <970425143409_-1903615431@emout08.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 07/04/97 12:43:45, you write: > >Bob Sellon >Lexicon/Stec > > ---------- >From: SoundFNR[SMTP:SoundFNR@aol.com] >Sent: Friday, April 04, 1997 6:27 PM >To: bsellon >Subject: JamMan modifications > >Bob > Yes I'm interested in an upgrade for the Jamman as mentioned in >Loopers' >Delight. >What would really make me happy would be the ability to make multiple >loops >of different lenghs. I try to make multiple loops without a drum machine >synched (I >haven't got one because I don't like them) and find that the timing error >adds up with >each loop. > Would this be a plug in mod? > Also stereo looping, but especially multiple loops of related (or >arbitrary) lengh all >playing together . > thanks Andy Butler > > From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:50 1997 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 18:24:01 -0400 (EDT) From: SoundFNR@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: JamMan & MIDI sysnc Message-ID: <970425182355_218532277@emout15.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 25/04/97 3:51:07, you write: > An SMPTE track (from an ADAT) drives a PC with Cakewalk that sends > MIDI clock to JamMan. Fine, JamMan syncs properly! > > The problem is that in the beginning of every bar and/or loop JamMan > introduces an audible perturbation on the sound. The silly solution I > found is not to play in this spot but this keeps me away from > continuos sounds and many other things. > > This does not happen when Jam Man is used alone or driving the > computer or any other box. Me too, I get the same from a similar setup (but without the DAT). If you fire up cakewalk and choose Midi Devices from Settings menu you'll see why. Notice that the resolution suggested for Custom settings is 1 millisecond. The JamMan records signal up to 15kHz, so the glitch comes when the ends of the loop don't meet properly. For some reason I couldn't get Cakewalk to even, accept the custom settings mode. I can click the button, it changes, but it won't do anything; if I OK then look again it's still on the same setting. It might work for you however (I only have a 486). The resolution would ideally be .01 milliseconds, maybe less. As the highest continuous tone your guitar (if thats what you use) puts out at significant volume is 2kHz you might get away with .05 milliseconds. Basically Midi-sync isn't very good, daisy chains of Midi gear produce enough delay for errors in rhythmic timing, so I think maybe we aren't going to get a solution. Nevertheless there's alot of people out there who know a lot more about this than me, let us know if you get it solved. Andy Butler. From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:50 1997 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:39:33 -0400 (EDT) From: PMimlitsch@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Official Gig Announcement Message-ID: <970425193928_-1969327860@emout17.mail.aol.com> Star's End Gathering XI on Friday, May 2nd, 1997, will feature live electronic space music by Pure Gamma. Opening for Pure Gamma will be Chapman Stick player Paul Mimlitsch. Sponsored by the 21-year-old radio program, Star's End, the concert will be held from 8:00pm-11:00pm in Houston Hall, 3417 Spruce Street on the University of Penn campus in West Philadelphia. Tickets, at the door: $10, WXPN members and students free. For more information, call 1-800-565-WXPN. Also: Notes About the Star's End broadcast of 04.27.97 .............................................................................. .. Concert Preview: The music of Pure Gamma and Paul Mimlitsch will be featured on Star's End this week. We'll be hearing excerpts from the forthcoming Pure Gamma CD and also from their live performance at Star's End Gathering VI last September. From Paul Mimlitsch, we'll hear a live improv tape made especially for Star's End. "Star's End" can be heard every Saturday night/Sunday morning from 1am-6am on: 88.5fm WXPN Philadelphia, PA 88.1fm WXPH Harrisburg, PA 90.5fm Worton/Baltimore, MD 104.9fm Allentown, PA From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:50 1997 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 10:05:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Yonni Harif To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: JamMan & MIDI sysnc Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pardon my ignorance, but this has been bothering me for quite sometime as I read all the messages on the list, what exactly is "Cakewalk"?..unfortunately the name itself does not elucidate its meaning.. I hope ... thanx a bunch, --yonni jharif@emerald.tufts.edu From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:50 1997 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 13:15:52 -0400 (EDT) From: andre To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Cc: metalfunk@aol.com, lolorec@aol.com, sspnj@exit109.com, norbrook@imap2.asu.edu, gregorr@tcg.com, mudshark2@juno.com, todd.mizenko@ariel.com, rich@con2.com, danielle@ncc.net, otherroad@aol.com, slepian@eclipse.net, dwinsor@nola.srrc.usda.gov, jkertesz@monmouth.com, JillFlex@aol.com, burger@biology.rutgers.edu, tiby@opus1.com, aroolaart@monmouth.com, inajesse@aol.com, dariel@juno.com, jtricci@exit109.com, jws@cbsnews.com, abacus@hudsonet.com, colchol@toj.com, mstorer@hardees.rutgers.edu, dcuthber@ix.netcom.com, lillian@infinity.com, MCraghan@rci.Rutgers.EDU, lcholmon@dc.rtkl.com, kkaragan@ifu.net, eclark@monmouth.com, aroolaart@monmouth.com, hubcity@exit109.com, dmb5561719@aol.com, eliotk@eden.rutgers.edu, loved1s@aol.com, dja@pacifier.com, annie@hitthis.com, relief@igc.org, dja@pacifier.com, mfrankel@monmouth.com, tps11@ix.netcom.com, andrewgreg@aol.com, farcus@injersey.com, pizzaqual@aol.com, recycler@eclipse.net, bendsmind@aol.com, dave_ross@mindspring.com, sdcurtin@lucent.com, lilweb@aol.com, jkennedygran@wesleyan.edu, paul@con2.com, rich@con2.com, papadato@bioresource.rutgers.edu, dbears99@aol.com, bengtl@bellatlantic.net, annie@hitthis.com, richard@rella.com, diziak@aol.com, sdm@frontier.wilpaterson.edu, todd.mizenko@ariel.com, jester@aol.com, NKD452@aol.com, trevska@aol.com, esdunn@earthlink.net, yoshka1@aol.com, lchigi@ix.netcom.com, wenchla@aol.com, murcury@hotmail.com, dflync01@homer.louisville.edu, 73503.1074@compuserve.com, fthecops@aol.com, seanm@monmouth.com, nancyjay@msn.com, skinbone@eden.rutgers.edu, nclem76469@msn.com, lauren@ven.net, phydoux3@aol.com, rifraffinf@aol.com, hotrats@pop.delphi.com, dwinsor@nola.srrc.usda.gov, danielg@hopper.unh.edu, mdaniele@monmouth.com, pokechop@bellsouth.net, Gary_Titone.DDI.BMG__ENTERTAINMENT@bmgmusic.com, perverse@aol.com, jkiebon@idt.net, mattm2@ziplink.net, explora@nettuno.it, pocius@bigfoot.com, s.trischetta@worldnet.att.net Subject: Live Loops Monday nite.. Message-Id: <199704271715.NAA10926@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hello all welcome to the latest impersonal, yet efficient shipment of last minute e-info on a gig - hope all is well - and some of you may have gotten on my e-list thru coming to see {hidden agenda} or {project-object SEGMENT} - a zappa tribute band.. Anyone in the nj area ? - stop over to the SAINT this monday night... we'll be presenting our sonic assault - percussion, synths, samplers and guitar - 100% live - JFK'S LSD-UFO - is what we call it. Sort of like "drums and space meets bad brains at a henry kaiser acid test..." Upon hearing our demo tape, The Knitting Factory said: "Too weird for us...." And then of course to top the night off - it's ... BUCKETHEAD !!! he's touring in support of a new release and this is his pre-nyc stop. don't miss it, THE SAINT is a great small room to see shows in... Buckethead has played with Praxis, Bernie Worrell, John Zorn, Jonas Hellborg (ex-mahavishnu), Bootsy Collins and many many more.... he's a cult figure in Japan and has several releases to his name that you should really check out. If you've never seen him - he performs and is ALWAYS seen in a hockey mask and a KFC bucket on his head... very strange man. he does sort of an over-the-top hardcore techno spacejazz thing..(??!?@##!??) MONDAY APRIL 28 THE SAINT 601 main st asbury park, nj 908-775-9144 jfk's lsd-ufo 10:00 pm buckethead 11:00 pm 18 and older, 21 to drink AND ONLY $6.00 !!! ...with GREAT BEERS ON TAP !! ...it's real NEAR THE TRAIN STATION !!! ...there's TONS OF FREE PARKING !!! DON'T FORGET TO FLOSS !!!! peace, Andre' more info andre@monmouth.com or 908-747-6448 10am-9pm From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:51 1997 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 14:13:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BobbyZZZ@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Live Loops Monday nite.. Message-ID: <970427141303_86032123@emout19.mail.aol.com> damn, wish i could be there....i was born in long branch, at monmouth memorial hospital....used to live on atlantic ave...good luck with the show :-) bobby d/lvx nova From ???@??? Sun Apr 27 22:40:51 1997 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:17:30 -0700 From: Jonathan Kiebon To: andre CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, metalfunk@aol.com, lolorec@aol.com, sspnj@exit109.com, norbrook@imap2.asu.edu, gregorr@tcg.com, mudshark2@juno.com, todd.mizenko@ariel.com, rich@con2.com, danielle@ncc.net, otherroad@aol.com, slepian@eclipse.net, dwinsor@nola.srrc.usda.gov, jkertesz@monmouth.com, JillFlex@aol.com, burger@biology.rutgers.edu, tiby@opus1.com, aroolaart@monmouth.com, inajesse@aol.com, dariel@juno.com, jtricci@exit109.com, jws@cbsnews.com, abacus@hudsonet.com, colchol@toj.com, mstorer@hardees.rutgers.edu, dcuthber@ix.netcom.com, lillian@infinity.com, MCraghan@rci.Rutgers.EDU, lcholmon@dc.rtkl.com, kkaragan@ifu.net, eclark@monmouth.com, hubcity@exit109.com, dmb5561719@aol.com, eliotk@eden.rutgers.edu, loved1s@aol.com, dja@pacifier.com, annie@hitthis.com, relief@igc.org, mfrankel@monmouth.com, tps11@ix.netcom.com, andrewgreg@aol.com, farcus@injersey.com, pizzaqual@aol.com, recycler@eclipse.net, bendsmind@aol.com, dave_ross@mindspring.com, sdcurtin@lucent.com, lilweb@aol.com, jkennedygran@wesleyan.edu, paul@con2.com, papadato@bioresource.rutgers.edu, dbears99@aol.com, bengtl@bellatlantic.net, richard@rella.com, diziak@aol.com, sdm@frontier.wilpaterson.edu, jester@aol.com, NKD452@aol.com, trevska@aol.com, esdunn@earthlink.net, yoshka1@aol.com, lchigi@ix.netcom.com, wenchla@aol.com, murcury@hotmail.com, dflync01@homer.louisville.edu, 73503.1074@compuserve.com, fthecops@aol.com, seanm@monmouth.com, nancyjay@msn.com, skinbone@eden.rutgers.edu, nclem76469@msn.com, lauren@ven.net, phydoux3@aol.com, rifraffinf@aol.com, hotrats@pop.delphi.com, danielg@hopper.unh.edu, mdaniele@monmouth.com, pokechop@bellsouth.net, Gary_Titone.DDI.BMG__ENTERTAINMENT@bmgmusic.com, perverse@aol.com, jkiebon@idt.net, mattm2@ziplink.net, explora@nettuno.it, pocius@bigfoot.com, s.trischetta@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: Live Loops Monday nite.. Message-ID: <336416CA.3914@mail.idt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit andre wrote: > > hello all > > welcome to the latest impersonal, yet efficient shipment of last minute > e-info on a gig - hope all is well - and some of you may have gotten on my > e-list thru coming to see {hidden agenda} or {project-object SEGMENT} - a > zappa tribute band.. > > Anyone in the nj area ? - stop over to the SAINT this monday night... > > we'll be presenting our sonic assault - percussion, synths, samplers and > guitar - 100% live - JFK'S LSD-UFO - is what we call it. Sort of like "drums > and space meets bad brains at a henry kaiser acid test..." > > Upon hearing our demo tape, The Knitting Factory said: > > "Too weird for us...." > > And then of course to top the night off - it's ... > > BUCKETHEAD !!! > > he's touring in support of a new release and this is his pre-nyc stop. don't > miss it, THE SAINT is a great small room to see shows in... > > Buckethead has played with Praxis, Bernie Worrell, John Zorn, Jonas Hellborg > (ex-mahavishnu), Bootsy Collins and many many more.... he's a cult figure in > Japan and has several releases to his name that you should really check out. > > If you've never seen him - he performs and is ALWAYS seen in a hockey mask > and a KFC bucket on his head... very strange man. he does sort of an > over-the-top hardcore techno spacejazz thing..(??!?@##!??) > > MONDAY APRIL 28 > > THE SAINT > 601 main st > asbury park, nj > 908-775-9144 > > jfk's lsd-ufo 10:00 pm > > buckethead 11:00 pm > > 18 and older, 21 to drink > > AND ONLY $6.00 !!! > > ...with GREAT BEERS ON TAP !! > > ...it's real NEAR THE TRAIN STATION !!! > > ...there's TONS OF FREE PARKING !!! DON'T FORGET TO FLOSS !!!! > > peace, Andre' > > more info andre@monmouth.com or 908-747-6448 10am-9pmAlso Don't Forget to visit Jon Kiebon's (OFFICIAL)PROJECT OBJECT HOMEPAGE reccomended for Zappa freaks,Social misfits,Underpants fetishits&those with a true taste for The Bizzare.Jon Kiebon's Project Object The original Post Punk Pre-Industrial Composer & social Satirist invites you to a unique cyber-bio-info seminar you must check out now! http://tool-box.com/rc/owa/freeweb.page?id=1004540