------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 89 Today's Topics: Re: New Ideas for Loop-boxes: Wishes [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias ] RE: Ducking Delays [ "Hogan, Greg" ] Re: gear [ "T.W. Hartnett" ] Re: Symetrix 606 [ Kim Flint ] Re: Trouble Finding a Plex [ Kim Flint ] Re: Plex price... [ Olivier Malhomme ] *message on gear* [ rick canton ] i`ll watch the re: address too [ rick canton ] Re: Symetrix 606 [ Jim Coker ] Re: Sustainer Update+ NEW approach [ SoundFNR@aol.com ] Re: Looping-in-London-strand-morphs- [ SoundFNR@aol.com ] Re: 4 Sec Delay [ Jeff Schwartz ] Re: strings and springs [ BlkSwan03@aol.com ] Re: Re: Non-Guitar Looping [ BlkSwan03@aol.com ] Re: RE: Improving LEXICON interfaces [ Stew Benedict ] Re: strings and springs [ crb@silvertone.Princeton.EDU (Curti ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 11:47:54 -0300 From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: New Ideas for Loop-boxes: Wishes and Dreams Department. Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" David Kirkdorffer did a major contribution: >Kim & Loop-Folk :-) here they would say Loop-tribe >Picking up on the idea -- how about adding a special page to the >LOOPERS-DELIGHT Web-page capturing these ideas in an ongoing basis? Wow, Loopist dreams. Engineers just have to select some items to bring out new technology. Fascinating. >1. Visual reference points for where one is in a loop. > a) a waveshape would be an excelent visual representation > b) a kind of LCD "time-o-meter" spining one revolution/loop >(like divers' watches with all those fancy dials) you want a computer, really... or would you really look at such design in a one unit LCD? Or did you think of a 2 unit high machine? nono! >- sometimes it can be quite difficult to know where one is in a long >loop. >- it would help time placement of "new additions" and multiples...and >general "situational -- "where am I?"" needs... >- and maybe with two colours: Red for "that which has RECENTLY been >added" and Green for "that which has already been added" Once we go there, we might as well have a separate channel for each recording. >2. Manipulation of end-to-end connect points... Open Loop / Close Loop >- imagne a 10 second loop. Then imagine connecting two points within >that 10 seconds to create a newer shorter loop. > > 10 sec. loop: aa(start)> bb> cc> dd> ee> ff> gg> hh> >ii> jj> kk(end)> --->> aa> bb> etc > new shorter loop: dd(newstart)> ee> ff> gg(newend)> --> >dd> ee> ff> etc. > > and then connecting from cc> to hh>... etc. > >I'm half sure someone will tell me this is already available -- if only >I knew how.... For the reduction its simply Multiply. After you reduced, its a bit complicated to go back to the entire, but its possible, either with Multiply - Undo or with NextMultiply (the reduced version was done with NextMulti). Or did I get you wrong? >4 Tie-ins with all new the hard-disk recording gear >- may be helpful for loop-"boxes" to stay in the market... >- to create "an Easy Sample-Builder" capability for studios and midi >minded folk. Yes, I am trying to do this for many years, but so far, the idea was hard to come through, and the comercial success of looping gear was not convincing. >7. More versatile input sensitivity In what sense? More sensitive to connect a microphone? The LOOP delay had that. >10. Leds/lights on the Oberheim foot-controller >- For live performance, I'm not always close enough to my rack to see >what's lit-up. But I am close to the foot controller. Would be nice really. We thought the user could not afford it... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:27:00 -0400 From: "Hogan, Greg" To: Loopers-Delight Subject: RE: Ducking Delays Message-Id: <9706131510.AA06741@beryllium.lexicon.com> <> Speaking of which, does anybody know of other boxes out there that feature these mud-eliminating wonders? Maybe the pcm-80? Thanks, dpc Yes, Both the PCM80 and the MPX1 offer this feature. Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I can do for you. Best regards, Greg Hogan Lexicon Customer Service Phone 617-280-0372 FAX 617-280-0499 P.S.On another note, it seems like alot of people tend to post anonmously to this list. I think it would be very helpful if everyone put their name at the end of their posts. This is especially helpful when we are getting opinions from people on subjective topics. Those of you with common first names should include your last name as well! Anonomous opinions just do not seem to be worth much unless there is an overwelming general concencus. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 10:41:31 -0000 From: "T.W. Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Re: gear Message-Id: <199706131538.IAA15424@scv2.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >-mesa boogie v-twinn rack >-mesa boogie studio preamp >-strat style neck w/ -novak fanned fret- fretboard & bridge Prices? And does the v-twin have the short-switch controller panel on the back? Travis Hartnett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 10:34:11 -0000 From: "T.W. Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Re: 4 Sec Delay Message-Id: <199706131533.IAA29976@scv4.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Ryan, [who's happy with the PDS-8000 i found used...] Where'd you find it? I'm always on the lookout for those. Travis Hartnett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 16:56:53 +0100 From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk (Dr M. P. Hughes) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: gear Message-Id: <2401.199706131556@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >i don`t mean to be tacky , but here goes- >-strat style neck w/ -novak fanned fret- fretboard & bridge >-delap baritone guitar , built for allan holdsworth in 1989 by bill > delap, 30" scale,steinberger parts , tuned to C. I don't mean to be tacky, but you wanna put a price on them?? :) (This si not to say I can necessarily afford em..!) michael Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg, Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979 University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K. "Wha's like us? Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 16:39:03 +0100 From: /G=Brian/S=Thomson/OU=0/OU=Unknown/@prudential.co.uk To: " - (052)Loopers-Delight(a)annihilist.com" Subject: Message for Rick re DeLap Baritone Guitar Message-Id: <0014400001965057000002*@MHS> Sorry 'bout this - your address got stripped again! Could you put it in the body of the message? I have seen pictures of similar instruments - I'm wondering about playability - e.g. is the string spacing as narrow as a normal guitar's, or has it also been scaled-up? Is it semi-acoustic? Condition, starting price etc. would be nice to know, as well as where you are - I'm in the UK, so importing an instrument from the USA would probably be prohibitively expensive. Brian Thomson, London UK bnt@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 12:09:37 -0400 From: "Ott, John" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: gear Message-ID: Guys I hate to be bitchy, but could you take your price negotiation off the list, and reply to the seller directly. It's not much interest to the rest of us. thanks John >---------- >From: pycraft@elec.gla.ac.uk >Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Sent: Friday, June 13, 1997 3:56 PM >To: John_Ott@ATK.COM >Subject: Re: gear > >>i don`t mean to be tacky , but here goes- > >>-strat style neck w/ -novak fanned fret- fretboard & bridge >>-delap baritone guitar , built for allan holdsworth in 1989 by bill >> delap, 30" scale,steinberger parts , tuned to C. > >I don't mean to be tacky, but you wanna put a price on them?? :) > >(This si not to say I can necessarily afford em..!) > >michael > >Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes Bioelectronic Research Centre, Rankine Bldg, >Tel: (+44) 141 330 5979 University of Glasgow, Glasgow G12 8QQ, U.K. > "Wha's like us? Damn few, and they're a' deid!" - Scottish proverb > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:43:58 -0700 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Symetrix 606 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:07 AM -0400 6/13/97, Dpcoffin@aol.com wrote: ><> >Speaking of which, does anybody know of other boxes out there that feature >these mud-eliminating wonders? Maybe the pcm-80? >Thanks, dpc my intellifex has the delay ducking function. It is pretty useful.... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:03:58 -0700 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Trouble Finding a Plex Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:28 AM -0500 6/13/97, C.H.Glansdorp wrote: >Anyway, I've been using a JamMan (32 secs) for the last couple of years, >and from this list discovered the Echoplex - the idea of having a JamMan >in front of an Echoplex really makes my mind go crazy thinking about the >possibilities. I immediately ordered one through the local Sam Ash >dealer. Five weeks later, the guy as Sam tells me that the Echoplex is no >longer in production. This was yesterday. What? Those guys are idiots.....They should be the ones calling Oberheim to get the facts straight, not you. >I've been lurking here a while and remember a couple weeks ago a post >from Kim Flint saying that he was at Oberheim and saw a stack of them and >they were ready to go out. I also recall the "Has anyone received a >backordered 'plex" thread, so I feel I might be starting a long quest. > >What's going on? I figured I'd ask the list before I invest in a long >distance call to Oberheim and before I lay into Sam Ash for not being >able to find me one. > >Any info would be greatly appreciated - I really want one of these things! Oberheim didn't build any for several months, due to various production problems. The result was that every dealer on the planet sold out some time ago. Oberheim has production running again and is currently shipping units to fill all the backorders. (like I said, I seen 'em!) If you order one now, you shouldn't have to wait that long, but that will depend on the dealer. I have no idea why Sam Ash would tell you that it's out of production. Didn't someone else have a problem with them recently? Maybe there is some bad blood between Gibson and Sam Ash, I don't know. Go to another dealer. You can call gibson's toll free number to get to Oberheim, I think (check their web site). It's probably worth it to call and make sure you are ordering from a dealer that can get it to you soon. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 19:05:03 +0200 (MET DST) From: Olivier Malhomme To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Plex price... Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know this kind of question appears from time to time here. So it is my turn. Can people of mostly everywhere tell me how much you know have to pay 'plex ? Maybe i could find both a place where to buy it, and money (erm) to do it. Who knows, I might be lucky... Olivier Malhomme ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 12:53:55 -0700 From: rick canton To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: gear Message-ID: <33A1A553.15DE@cyberportal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit T.W. Hartnett wrote: > > >-mesa boogie v-twinn rack > >-mesa boogie studio preamp > >-strat style neck w/ -novak fanned fret- fretboard & bridge > > Prices? And does the v-twin have the short-switch controller panel on > the back? > > Travis Hartnett hi Travis, prices are: -boogie v-twinn rack $350. -boogie studio preamp $325. -strat style neck w/ novak fretboard & bridge $250. do you mean the 1/4" jacks for the modes on the v-twinn?-yes thanks, i`ll be gone for a few days , when i get back i`ll respond o.k.? rick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 13:11:01 -0700 From: rick canton To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: *message on gear* Message-ID: <33A1A955.6F4D@cyberportal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit to all who are interested in my "gear" posting ,PLEASE RESPOND TO MY E-MAIL ADDRESS , not the Loopers list.it`s understandibly annoying for the people who are not interested. rpc@cyberportal.net sorry to all that have been bothered, rick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 13:18:07 -0700 From: rick canton To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: i`ll watch the re: address too Message-ID: <33A1AAFF.2BA6@cyberportal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry about not checking where my re:`s are going, rick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 16:03:54 -0700 From: Jim Coker To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Symetrix 606 Message-ID: <33A1D1DA.6CBB@interaccess.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some digitech boxes (i.e. newer S-DISC-based boxes like the GSP2101) have duckers too. jim Kim Flint wrote: > > At 7:07 AM -0400 6/13/97, Dpcoffin@aol.com wrote: > ><> > >Speaking of which, does anybody know of other boxes out there that feature > >these mud-eliminating wonders? Maybe the pcm-80? > >Thanks, dpc > > my intellifex has the delay ducking function. It is pretty useful.... > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 18:05:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SoundFNR@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Sustainer Update+ NEW approach Message-ID: <970613180129_-429184862@emout16.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 09/06/97 11:55:03, you write: << I've just been talking with Kent Armstrong, who recons a low-Z pickup could be built for about #50 ($70-ish). How could I refuse? Problem is, this needs to be done right, so I'm asking everybody for suggestions on this... any idea what's required? I'm just going for a lot of bigger-gauge turns - we'll have no idea of the impedance 'till it's built - but does anybody have any ideas of the impedance of the Fernandez neck pickup? Or the current flowing into it, at least? (You guys with Fer. guitars could measure this by checking the draw from the batteries) I'm guessing (literally!!!) that I'll need a Z of about 100ohm, producing a current of about 100mA - a total draw of about 1 Watt. Is that OK or a bit too extreme? Is 10ma sufficient (I'm guessing it probably isn't)? Opinions, _please_!! >> I think it also depends on the efficiency of the p/u. As the standard p/u is optimised for a linear response to the movement of the string the magnetic field isn't be as focused as it could be. A coil to drive a string could be arranged so that most of the magnetic flux lines went through the resting position of the string, meaning you'd get more push for your watts. BUT today's big idea. If you've got a strat. type bridge all you have to do is slide a piezo transducer under the bridge saddles, readjust action accordingly, send your signal to the piezo and surely something will happen. Piezo transducers can be salvaged from those wristwatches that bleep, or purchased from electronic component suppliers. In UK Maplin (mail order catalogue) has a number of options, thin brass discs with a layer of piezo-crystal topped by a silvered "electrode" price about 50p. I reckon they can be cut to shape if necessary. "They can be driven direct from CMOS ICs with low power consumption" -Maplin Input :- 3V suggested 15 or 30V max. The only doubt I have about this approach is that it would energise the strings to vibrate towards + away from the fretboard, which isn't ideal as the p/us mainly pick up string motion at right angles to this. (my guitar has the wrong sort of bridge though) Andy UK ........And you'd have to make sure the bridge didn't short out the piezo. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 18:06:38 -0400 (EDT) From: SoundFNR@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looping-in-London-strand-morphs-into-vortex Message-ID: <970613180131_-1194480222@emout17.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 08/06/97 6:31:178:23, you write: << In a message dated 6/7/97 8:53:15 PM, Andy from the UK wrote: <> Why not post some example parameters...if you've got any to spare? dpc >> . Atmosphere B DejaVu B mix 64 64<<<<< To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: 4 Sec Delay Message-ID: <33A1C18A.1858@bgnet.bgsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paolo Valladolid wrote: > I remember one of the bass majors at the UCSD music department used one > as part of his graduation recital. It was neat because he had a Persian > rug and did this pseudo meditation/religious invocation act while looped > electric bass was flying in the ether. > I wonder if this was Ken Filiano, an older cat with tremendous skills in the jazz & new music field who works with a lot of the L.A. avant-jazz folks and studied with Burt Turetzky at UCSD a few years back. I've seen him use a Digitech double-wide (don't know which one) for upright bass looping. I know he plays electric too & is kind of a mystical dude, in that avant-jazz guy way... -- Jeff Schwartz jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~jeffs/main.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 18:20:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BlkSwan03@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: RE: Improving LEXICON interfaces Message-ID: <970613124431_-959969329@emout11.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 6/12/97 8:57:26 PM, you wrote: <> I like the foot controller, however the buttons should have been a bit more spaced. I often have a big problem just hitting one. This can be a big problem. The thing just is not made for large, wide shoes. (and no, I'm not wearing clown shoes. Just Doc Martens.) I kind of wonder if this problem might perhaps be rectified in a future version? Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 15:44:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Paolo Valladolid To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: 4 Sec Delay Message-Id: <199706132244.PAA28951@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I remember one of the bass majors at the UCSD music department used one > > as part of his graduation recital. It was neat because he had a Persian > > rug and did this pseudo meditation/religious invocation act while looped > > electric bass was flying in the ether. > > > > I wonder if this was Ken Filiano, an older cat with tremendous skills in the jazz & new No, this was Martin Chandler. Last I heard, he had moved into the Bay Area. Yes, Bert Turetzky is greatly respected at UCSD as an authority on upright bass. Actually, the best looping show I saw at UCSD was by John Stevens, a guitar-playing maniac on the faculty. He does have a CD out, which I hope to get around to writing a review about someday. Needless to say, this CD has less to do with Fripp and occupies the more abrasive end of the tonal spectrum. Paolo Valladolid --------------------------------------------------------------- |Moderator of Digital Guitar Digest, an Internet mailing list |\ |for Music Technology and Stringed Instruments | \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- | \ finger pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu for more info \ | \ http://waynesworld.ucsd.edu/DigitalGuitar/home.html \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 00:03:29 -0700 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: RE: Improving LEXICON interfaces Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It is actually very simple to make a footpedal for the echoplex. (or any sort of control interface, it doesn't have to be for feet.) The electronics involved are real simple, just a switch and a resistor for each function. More details are available on the web site, in the "echoplex footpedal tutorial" I wrote up last winter. It seems there are a few people out there who want somehow customized pedals. Some handy person with a little initiative ought to start up a little side business doing this for folks. I've turned down several offers to do custom plex pedals, since I don't have the time or motivation. (or the mechanical skills, actually) But there seems to be a small market out there. I know a certain guitar player in Journey who will buy at least two.... Don't count on Oberheim to redo the existing footpedal for you. Most people are satisfied with it, they have it all designed, and it's reasonably easy to manufacture. There's no financial incentive for them... kim At 6:20 PM -0400 6/13/97, BlkSwan03@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 6/12/97 8:57:26 PM, you wrote: > ><footcontroller making the biggest impact!>> > >I like the foot controller, however the buttons should have been a bit more >spaced. I often have a big problem just hitting one. This can be a big >problem. The thing just is not made for large, wide shoes. (and no, I'm not >wearing clown shoes. Just Doc Martens.) I kind of wonder if this problem >might perhaps be rectified in a future version? > >Jim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 04:32:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BlkSwan03@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: strings and springs Message-ID: <970614043256_-595037787@emout13.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 6/4/97 1:50:47 PM, you wrote: << you can reach her through the Deep Listening website, if you're still curious.>> Do you have the web address? Are there sound samples of these instruments? Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 04:51:54 -0400 (EDT) From: BlkSwan03@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Non-Guitar Looping Message-ID: <970614045154_72023848@emout13.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 6/7/97 5:22:31 PM, you wrote: <> James This sounds cool. Do you have any tapes? Any live playing? Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Stew Benedict To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: RE: Improving LEXICON interfaces Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Kim Flint wrote: > It is actually very simple to make a footpedal for the echoplex. (or any > sort of control interface, it doesn't have to be for feet.) The > electronics involved are real simple, just a switch and a resistor for each > function. More details are available on the web site, in the "echoplex > footpedal tutorial" I wrote up last winter. > > It seems there are a few people out there who want somehow customized > pedals. Some handy person with a little initiative ought to start up a > little side business doing this for folks. I've turned down several offers > to do custom plex pedals, since I don't have the time or motivation. (or > the mechanical skills, actually) But there seems to be a small market out > there. I know a certain guitar player in Journey who will buy at least > two.... Hey, I'm there! I've seen your footpedal details Kim, couldn't be easier. Adding LEDS, changing the box, switches, etc. shouldn't be a problem either. I'm handy with a soldering iron and sheet metal. So folks, send me your specifications, and I'll quote something up for you. Probably won't be as cheap as Obie's controller, but custom seldom is cheap. Stew Benedict benedict@netcom.com > > Don't count on Oberheim to redo the existing footpedal for you. Most people > are satisfied with it, they have it all designed, and it's reasonably easy > to manufacture. There's no financial incentive for them... > > kim > > > > At 6:20 PM -0400 6/13/97, BlkSwan03@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 6/12/97 8:57:26 PM, you wrote: > > > >< >footcontroller making the biggest impact!>> > > > >I like the foot controller, however the buttons should have been a bit more > >spaced. I often have a big problem just hitting one. This can be a big > >problem. The thing just is not made for large, wide shoes. (and no, I'm not > >wearing clown shoes. Just Doc Martens.) I kind of wonder if this problem > >might perhaps be rectified in a future version? > > > >Jim > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:15:17 -0400 From: crb@silvertone.Princeton.EDU (Curtis Bahn) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: strings and springs Message-Id: <199706141315.JAA12596@silvertone.Princeton.EDU> << you can reach her through the Deep Listening website, if you're still >