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Loopers-Delight-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 90

Today's Topics:
  Vortex delay ducking/Unique?          [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
  Re: 4 Sec Delay                       [ improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) ]
  RE:interface, RE:mixer                [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: Hexapohic pickups                 [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: Sustainer Update+ NEW approach    [ matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias  ]
  Re: strings and springs               [ "kim corbet" <kcorbet@mail.smu.edu> ]
  Lexicon Jam Man AC adapter            [ VanEyck <vaneyck@interlog.com> ]
  Vortex patch exchange                 [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
  Re: Vortex delay ducking/Unique?      [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  Re: Lexicon Jam Man AC adapter        [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  Yamaha SU-10?                         [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  Vortex patch                          [ Jeff Schwartz <jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu ]
  Re: strings and springs               [ "kim corbet" <kcorbet@mail.smu.edu> ]
  Re: New Ideas for Loop-boxes: Wishes  [ BlkSwan03@aol.com ]
  David Myers mometarily returns....    [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  Re: Vortex delay ducking/Unique?      [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
  Re: David Myers mometarily returns..  [ crb@silvertone.Princeton.EDU (Curti ]
  Re: David Myers mometarily returns..  [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  jam man questions                     [ Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT> ]
  vortex patches                        [ Jay Taylor <jaytaylor@scsn.net> ]
  Fractal B patch                       [ patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) ]
  Re: vortex patches                    [ Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> ]
  Re: Fractal B patch                   [ John Pollock <johnpollock@delphi.co ]
  RE: jam man questions                 [ "Sellon, Bob" <bsellon@lexicon.com> ]
  RE: vortex patches                    [ Michael Peters <MPeters@compuserve. ]

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 11:09:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Vortex delay ducking/Unique?
Message-ID: <970614110910_912189405@emout18.mail.aol.com>

<<the Vortex's delay ducking function with loops>>
Thanks for the ideas on other boxes with delay ducking...but I wonder if
"standard" ducking delays will work with infinite (or near-inf) feedback the
way it works in the Vortex/Fractal algo., i.e, new input to the loop erases
old, rather than adding to it? 
Don't suppose the plex has anything like this? 
(the more I get into the Vortex, the more I wish IT could get upgraded
memory!...what a shame the world was looking elsewhere at the time--and that
you gotta depend on 10,000 other people to want what you want to get it!)
Thanks, dpc

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 08:55:17 -0800
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: 4 Sec Delay
Message-Id: <v01510101afc7dfc7a649@[128.193.5.81]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> > I remember one of the bass majors at the UCSD music department used one
>> > as part of his graduation recital.  It was neat because he had a Persian
>> > rug and did this pseudo meditation/religious invocation act while looped
>> > electric bass was flying in the ether.
>> >
>>
>> I wonder if this was Ken Filiano, an older cat with tremendous skills in
>>the jazz & new
>
Ken an "older cat", gee, he's an old friend of mine, I'll have to tell him
about this. You're right about the trmendous skills part, he's a total
mother on his instrument, and has just gotten better since moving to New
York. I think he's going to be a major player on the scene soon.


>Actually, the best looping show I saw at UCSD was by John Stevens, a
>guitar-playing maniac on the faculty.  He does have a CD out, which I
>hope to get around to writing a review about someday.  Needless to say,
>this CD has less to do with Fripp and occupies the more abrasive end of
>the tonal spectrum.
>
This sounds very cool, what's the title/label?

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org  : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
                                            -Sun Ra
________________________________________________________

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 17:25:30 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE:interface, RE:mixer
Message-Id: <v01520d06afc70e9bac96@[200.254.32.153]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

John Michael Beard said:

>  I have recently changed my gear around slightly because of this problem:
>
> >10.    Leds/lights on the Oberheim foot-controller
> >- For live performance, I'm not always close enough to my rack to see
> >what's lit-up.  But I am close to the foot controller.
>
>  I've started keeping my rack at the front of the stage, to one side of me.

So do I. I sit to play (to operate my faders on the ground) and have a 5
unit rack upright, slightly inclined (to come out underneeth with the
multicore to the pedal) on my right side. So its easy to read display and
access knobs.

Matthias

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 17:26:04 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Hexapohic pickups
Message-Id: <v01520d00afc7a9868292@[200.254.32.153]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hayden wondered a while ago:

>I dont think the gk pickup was designed to be used as a general 6 output
>pickup that would allow you to do what you wanted with the 6 output
>signals.

yes it is, but the problem is that the pickup does not sound good because
it is installed so close to the bridge. And it has to be installed there,
because otherwhise its impossible to separate strings well while the player
is bending.

Piezo bridge pickups do not have this problem and separate a lot better
than the magnetic ones.

>I think you would need a general purpose 6 output pickup to do the trick
>with the mixer. I have no idea where you are going to find such a pickup
>but there has got to be something out there!

Shadow / RMC / PARADIS /... for piezo
Bartolini / Armstrong... for magnetics.

Matthias

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 17:26:54 -0300
From: matthias@bahianet.com.br (Matthias Grob)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Sustainer Update+ NEW approach
Message-Id: <v01520d03afc7affc0748@[200.254.32.153]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>BUT today's big idea.
>If you've got a strat. type bridge all you have to do is slide a
>piezo transducer under the bridge saddles, readjust action accordingly,
>send your signal to the piezo and surely something will happen.

>Piezo transducers can be salvaged from those wristwatches that bleep,
>or purchased from electronic component suppliers.

I did this. It worked for highest frequencies only because the piezo has a
very small extrusion. For the same reason it only works as beeper for high
notes or tweeter, no bass.

Matthias

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 97 19:13 CDT
From: "kim corbet"  <kcorbet@mail.smu.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: strings and springs
Message-Id: <m0wd2wF-000GMnC@post.cis.smu.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

> << you can reach 
> her through the Deep Listening website, if you're still curious.>>
> 
> Do you have the web address?  Are there sound samples of these instruments?
> 
> Jim

....sorry, but I think any search engine would find it...try Pauline Oliveros 
and look for info about "deep listening".

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 21:02:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: VanEyck <vaneyck@interlog.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Lexicon Jam Man AC adapter
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970614210037.29544A-100000@gold.interlog.com>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

	Hello, 

	Can someone forward me the address of the Lexicon Consumer Service
dept.?  I need to locate an AC adapter for a Jam Man.

	Thanks,

	TREVOR.
	VanEyck@interlog.com

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 21:05:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Vortex patch exchange
Message-ID: <970614210548_-1094341617@emout02.mail.aol.com>

Many thanks, Andy, for your cool Vortex patch--delighted to be exchanging
patch data with other delighted loopers;
here's my current fave: 


         Fractal B   	   Fractal B
mix             64               64
output         64               64
modFXlevel  64               64
EchoFXlevel 64               64
morphAB      1                 64
Envelope      PEDAL          64
echo 1-:-      1                   2
echo 2-:-      -                   3
feedback 1   64                64
feedback 2    1                   4
rate 1            8                PEDAL
depth 1         32                46
resonance 1   1                 58
rate 2            7                  8
depth 2         64                64
resonance 2  61                34
This is a loop morpher that you start in A, tapping in a long repeat; the
pedal controls the send to the delay and the ducking function over-writes
what's there, so no mush, but you gotta be careful not to lose the good stuff
as you build your loop. When you're ready to morph, hit A/B and the 2:3
rhythm slowly takes over (dial in different rates with both the morph
parameter and the feedback 2 parameter--feedback 1, too, for that matter). As
soon as you hear something you like, hit A/B again and it'll freeze as it
goes immediately to register A. While in reg B, the pedal modulates the tones
into in-beat noise, along with the input, but this isn't recorded (too bad?).
The new input is, tho'; change envelope to 1 if you don't want this. I
typically use this register while playing a sound that isn't going thru the
V, so the loop is on it's own, changing gradually, or dramatically and
temporarily from pedal movement.

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 15:49:11 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vortex delay ducking/Unique?
Message-Id: <v03102800afc8ccfbd8b1@[207.171.196.53]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

><<the Vortex's delay ducking function with loops>>
>Thanks for the ideas on other boxes with delay ducking...but I wonder if
>"standard" ducking delays will work with infinite (or near-inf) feedback the
>way it works in the Vortex/Fractal algo., i.e, new input to the loop erases
>old, rather than adding to it?

I think my intellifex just turns the delay output down when there is an
input signal. Takes the muddiness out while still giving a nice delay at
the end of the phrase. Probably not as interesting as the vortex, but
useful anyway.

>Don't suppose the plex has anything like this?

The echoplex has the replace function. While you've got replace held down,
it replaces the loop with whatever input you've got going. As soon as you
let it go it stops the replace. It's not quite the same as you describe
with the vortex, but I think you could get a similar effect. It's a great
way to make really mutated loops. I like to do things like loop a sustained
chord, and then tap replace while holding a different chord. The loop gets
interesting rhythmic blips in it, with the instant chord changes at the
replace boundary. Another thing I like is to create rhythm with silence. By
that I mean creating a dense "sound carpet" loop, and tapping replace in
some rhythmic way with no input. The holes in the sound become the
rhythm....


>(the more I get into the Vortex, the more I wish IT could get upgraded
>memory!...what a shame the world was looking elsewhere at the time--and that
>you gotta depend on 10,000 other people to want what you want to get it!)
>Thanks, dpc

If lexicon were smart, they would license it to a smaller manufacturer who
wouldn't mind the low volume and give it more attention. Big "if", I
guess......it took them a long time just to put up a web page, they might
never get on the intellectual property bandwagon....

kim



______________________________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:09:18 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon Jam Man AC adapter
Message-Id: <v03102800afc8fd7c3d66@[207.171.196.33]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Trevor said:
>	Hello,
>
>	Can someone forward me the address of the Lexicon Consumer Service
>dept.?  I need to locate an AC adapter for a Jam Man.

Evil wall warts strike! Nothing I hate more than music gear requiring these
flimsy, poorly made, easy to lose, too big for the power strip pieces of
junk. And everything I have needs a different one! hate them hate them hate
them.........

Greg Hogan is Lexicon's customer service rep. He reads this list, and will
no doubt contact you on Monday.....right Greg?

kim

______________________________________________________________________
Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
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http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:40:44 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Yamaha SU-10?
Message-Id: <v03102804afc906264717@[207.171.196.33]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Anybody checked out the Yamaha SU-10 phrase sampler?

http://www.yamaha.co.uk/html/products/p_su10.htm

It has a nifty looking ribbon controller on it for pitch and scratch
effects, but I couldn't tell if it could do obvious loop functions like
Overdubbing. Anybody tried it?

kim

______________________________________________________________________
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http://www.annihilist.com/  | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 22:59:37 -0400
From: Jeff Schwartz <jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Vortex patch
Message-ID: <33A35A99.12D5@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm into the Vortex patch swap idea-the rest of y'all should speak up if it gets annoying. 
This is one of my favorites for leads-it's a kind of a ring modulated deal.
Shimmer B
mix- 64
output- 64
mod level- 0
echo level- 64
morph- 16
envelope- 32
echo 1- 2
echo 2- 3
feedback 1- 28
feedback 2-37
rate 1-61
depth 1-61
resonance 1- 4
rate 2- 20
depth 2-59
resonance 2-16

I'm hoping that by swapping our sounds, I'll have a better sense of how to exploit the 
swirly beast. Like, both of the patches folks posted before were for looping and 
involved morphing between series and parallel delays, right? I never thought of that 
before.  It's going to be fun to play with.

This sound here is one of those things where you're going to hear only the delayed 
sound, so tap a musical interval (like, 1 or 2 beats, or a measure, depenmding on tempo) 
and play that much ahead of the rest of what's going on on stage (this visually freaks 
people out too, like a poorly dubbed movie, a bonus  stolen from Henry Kaiser). You 
could get just the modulated sound, instead of just the delayed, but I like how this 
sounds-running the modulated stuff through the echo for the short time gives it a cool 
doubled effect and with a longer tapped time, the 2/3 echo comes into play.  
I like the sound of ring modulation-it's not a sound that's been used much outside of 
academic electronic music-I dig that about the Vortex, almost every show I do with it, 
folks ask me "what was that effect?" becuase they've heard a sound that they've never 
heard live before (like ring modulation or pedal controlled flanging or echos with the 
regeneration pedal controlled)... Also, ring modualtion changes the pitch relationships 
(or is it the harmonic content?) of what I play so, even though I may be playing a habit 
pattern (major scale), what's coming out is something new and different. Damn I'm lazy 
sometimes....

-- 
Jeff Schwartz
jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu
http://www.bgsu.edu/~jeffs/main.html

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 97 23:47 CDT
From: "kim corbet"  <kcorbet@mail.smu.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: strings and springs
Message-Id: <m0wd2yI-000GMoC@post.cis.smu.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

> <Do you have the web address?  
> 
> 
> deeplisten@aol.com
> http://www.deeplistening.org

....oh, cool.  sorry about the previous post, I hadn't seen this yet...

the spare kim

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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 02:33:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: BlkSwan03@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: New Ideas for Loop-boxes: Wishes and Dreams Department.
Message-ID: <970615023340_172706255@emout03.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 6/15/97 3:42:41 AM, you wrote:

<< the comercial success of looping gear was not
convincing>>

Just exactly how bad was it?    I think they would sell much better  if the
sales people had  half a clue.   A proper demonstration of a high quality
looping device would have damn near anyone selling their grandmother to get
one!   Let me know when you need to make the video.  I'm there.

Jim

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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 01:14:59 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: David Myers mometarily returns....
Message-Id: <v03102802afc953e8c36a@[207.171.196.35]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

David Myers was on the list a while back. He sent this to me the other day
(totally unsolicited!), I thought some of you may be interested:


>>From kflint  Tue Jun 10 23:06:14 1997
>Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 02:06:38 -0500
>From: David Myers <dmgraph@bway.net>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: kflint@annihilist.com
>Subject: Hi Kim
>
>Kim-
>
>I'm sure you remember my rant about the Echoplex gating a few months
>ago.  I was trying subtle decays, and it really had me tearing my hair;
>I even put the unit away for a while.  Just today I finally carried out
>the input/output gain mod you outlined in the FAQ, and lo and behold!
>Not only has my complaint been nixed, the whole 'Plex experience is
>several notches up the scale.  Really, really big difference all around!
>
>I wanted to tell you this because I think it should be part of the FAQ
>and you should keep this in mind when responding to desperate
>gate-haters, of which I've seen a few on the mail list in the past.  If
>I was still on & had their posts, I'd mail 'em.  But it just took so
>much time every day!
>
>Will keep looking in to find notice of the promised update, though I'm
>now so happy with the state of my machine, I wonder what could be
>better....
>
>DM
>

______________________________________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 09:57:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vortex delay ducking/Unique?
Message-ID: <970615095713_1309284134@emout20.mail.aol.com>

<<...The echoplex has the replace function....>>
Sorry to hear about it! I keep trying to avoid the simple truth: There ain't
no "one-best-looper;" you gotta get 'em all!
Thanks, Kim
dpc

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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 10:21:10 -0400
From: crb@silvertone.Princeton.EDU (Curtis Bahn)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  David Myers mometarily returns....
Message-Id: <199706151421.KAA17865@silvertone.Princeton.EDU>

>I even put the unit away for a while.  Just today I finally carried out
>the input/output gain mod you outlined in the FAQ,.......

Where is the FAQ?
curtis

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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:06:56 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re:  David Myers mometarily returns....
Message-Id: <v03102800afca08933626@[207.171.196.156]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>I even put the unit away for a while.  Just today I finally carried out
>>the input/output gain mod you outlined in the FAQ,.......
>
>Where is the FAQ?
>curtis

The Looper's Delight web site is here:

http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html


The tools section is here:

http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/tools.html


The echoplex area is here:

http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html


The echoplex FAQ is here:

http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/FAQ.html



hope this helps!

kim

______________________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:00:42 +0200
From: Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: jam man questions
Message-ID: <19970616010042015.AAA183@Default>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi all

In the last weeks I've followed Loopers topics with great interest. 
For the first time, yesterday, I had the opportunity to try the Jamman.
I'm considering to buy the unit but not before some of you experts clarify
some concepts... Thank you in advance...

- When the upgrade will be ready? And what will be the features? Higher
price? Have I to wait some more time for it?

- Any problem with 32 sec. upgrade?? Where can I find it on the net??

- This is vital. I'd like to let grow my loops in spontaneous ever changing
compositions. Does the Jammark allow you to start with loop 1, add a layer
as loop 2, add another layer as loop 3, erase loop 1, add a new loop 1,
erase loop2, etc., all without interruption? For me continuity should be
essential... The little I tried was to change loop number STOPPING the last
loop and adding a new one. THEN you could shift from a recorded loop to
another. This seemed a big limitation for me...I'd like to add a new loop
while listening the other ones. 

Thanks again for your help.

Ciao
Leo

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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:42:56 -0700
From: Jay Taylor <jaytaylor@scsn.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: vortex patches
Message-Id: <E0wdRku-00058b-00@ferret>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

please keep this up. i'm having fun watching from the peanut gallery, and i
plan to try these patches this week. a web site would be great for these
things, or at least a compilation.
jay taylor 

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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 21:16:44 +0200
From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Fractal B patch
Message-Id: <v01520d07afc9ef1111e6@[205.177.25.43]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hats off to Mr(s). Dpcoffin. I loaded this patch into my vortex this
afternoon and then had to run up to Baltimore to take my dad out to dinner.
I just spent the last hour and a half playing with your masterpiece.

The last six months or so I've mainly been programming my synths and doing
the midi leg work to have 4 synths, two jam men, and some effects all be
triggerred from my Fender Jaguar. My vortex has patiently waited in my
rack. Used and tweakd on the fly...nothing saved in the last two
years...but now you have my interest up. Many many thanks!

Patrick


 ***  ***    ** Fingerpaint http://www.his.com/~patrick/FNGP.html  ***  **

  

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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 22:26:20 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: vortex patches
Message-Id: <v03102800afca7ea33905@[207.171.196.19]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>please keep this up. i'm having fun watching from the peanut gallery, and i
>plan to try these patches this week. a web site would be great for these
>things, or at least a compilation.
>jay taylor

If one of you vortex nuts wants to make a page full of patches with
desciptions (or even audio files) for the Looper's Delight web site, by all
means do so! I think a lot of people would be interested in that.

kim

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:01:28 -0500
From: John Pollock <johnpollock@delphi.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Fractal B patch
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Patrick Smith wrote, in part:

> The last six months or so I've mainly been programming my synths and doing
> the midi leg work to have 4 synths, two jam men, and some effects all be
> triggerred from my Fender Jaguar.

Please:  A verbal description of your control scheme, or perhaps a
graphic wiring diagram on your Website?  Please?  Please!

John Pollock
mailto:johnpollock@delphi.com
http://people.delphi.com/johnpollock (Troubador Tech)

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:51:00 -0400
From: "Sellon, Bob" <bsellon@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: jam man questions
Message-Id: <9706161300.AA11767@beryllium.lexicon.com>

>- When the upgrade will be ready? And what will be the features? Higher
>price? Have I to wait some more time for it?

Work continues on the upgrade but legal issues need to be resolved. I   
have several things going on, of which JamMan is only one so it's hard   
for me to provide a specific date. I should have a clearer picture in the   
next few weeks. Right now the primary new features are: pan-able multiple   
loops, undo, the ability to switch the loops into loop, echo or sample   
mode in real time, a built in slap delay, non-destructive click, MIDI   
learn, full MIDI SysEx and loop divide. I'm also investigating the   
possibility of replacing the EPROM with a flash ROM that would allow the   
future upgrades to be done via MIDI. The upgrade package will probably   
include a first generation Windows glass interface as well for what ever   
its worth (I haven't forgotten you Mac people. I just don't own one and   
will have to work out a port when I get the Windows version doing   
something useful). The upgrade will be less than $200. If response is   
good enough I am considering doing further ROMs with additional/different   
features for significantly less money.

Again, this is NOT a Lexicon upgrade. In other words, don't call Lexicon   
and expect them to know anything about it.

>- This is vital. I'd like to let grow my loops in spontaneous ever   
changing
>compositions. Does the Jammark allow you to start with loop 1, add a   
layer
>as loop 2, add another layer as loop 3, erase loop 1, add a new loop 1,
>erase loop2, etc., all without interruption? For me continuity should be
>essential... The little I tried was to change loop number STOPPING the   
last
>loop and adding a new one. THEN you could shift from a recorded loop to
>another. This seemed a big limitation for me...I'd like to add a new   
loop
>while listening the other ones.

The released version of the JamMan software does not do this (the upgrade   
will). If you need this functionality now, the Digital Echoplex is   
probably your best bet. I believe it currently provides this   
functionality.

As a side note, the output  of the JamMan was specially designed with   
sufficient drive capability to power 600 ohm headphones for private   
looping. This feature was not listed on the web site or the A-B   
comparisons with other products.

Bob Sellon
Lexicon/Stec

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:31:39 -0400
From: Michael Peters <MPeters@compuserve.com>
To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: RE: vortex patches
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> If one of you vortex nuts wants to make a page full of patches with
> desciptions (or even audio files) for the Looper's Delight web site, by
all
> means do so! I think a lot of people would be interested in that.

Very interested!!!
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