------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 13 Today's Topics: Re: Re: New to looping/processing [ Fmplautus ] Re: Unsubscribe [ Takadimi ] Re: Re: Echoplex syncing [ Kim Flint ] Re: Loopers' Delight CD project link [ "Matt McCabe" ] Manual Overwrite (formerly Manuel O' [ Tom Spaulding ] RE: Echoplex syncing [ Matthew Blais ] RE: Hello... [ Laurie Hatch ] ccMail SMTPLINK Undeliverable Messag [ nm@mail.amsinc.com (ccMail SMTPLINK ] Guitar and audio schematics [ Laurie Hatch ] Laurie's schematic site [ Scott ] LiSa (was Re: New to looping/process [ MIvanBerk ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:58:38 EST From: Fmplautus To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: New to looping/processing Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi New Potential Acoustic Looper: Rich Lamphear wrote: > Hi, > I'm an acoustic guitarist/singer/composer and I'm getting interested in the > concept of looping and processing the acoustic guitar. I'm intrigued with > the idea of extending my solo guitar and voice concept to incorporate new > sounds, textures, and rhythms via electronics. > > I've got a little money to throw at this (~$1500) and I'd like some advice > on how I might best spend the money. > > My idea is to install a decent quality pickup on my acoustic, something > that would maintain a reasonable amount of the acoustic guitar timbre > before sending it to processing. I've heard good things about the Sunrise > and McIntyre pickups for this type of application. > > The Echoplex Digital Pro seems the clear choice for a looper. Has > availability of these improved lately? (sorry if it's a faq, just joined > the list). I did phone Thoroughbred Music and they had three in stock, but > no pedalboards. > > In addition, I'd like a multifx box to do standard digital processing for > both the guitar and the voice. My main question revolves around the issue > of stereo processing. Do you really need 2 Echoplexes to get a decent > stereo sound happening? Do most people running stereo process first (add > reverb, flange, etc.) and then go into 2 Echoplexes? Or do people loop > first and then send the mono looped signal into a stereo processor and > output from there? > > My choices (for around $1500) seem to be: > 1) Echoplex mono into good quality multifx to stereo output. > 2) El cheapo multifx stereo output into 2 Echoplexes operating in sync. > > Any advice to help me think about this would be much appreciated. It sure > would be great to be able to do both the processing and looping in a single > box, but I don't think anything like that's on the market....correct? > > thanks, > Rich The LoOpDoctOrs have their own particular take on "appropriate" technology, but we've journeyed down some of the paths you wish to explore and here's our two cents. 1: acoustic pickups are enjoying a renaissance. We use the Highlander system -- piezo and internal mike combo. It works just grand and you can split the seperate feeds out of the guitar...so there are more processing/looping choices. That said, a single source piezo or whatever will work fine too. Sure it will sound like a piezo/whatever, but it's there to loop and morph, etc. 2: One thing that we think is important on your equipment list for live applications is a MIXER. We use Mackie 1202s, but there are any number of excellent and affordable small mixers. It can't be emphasized how important learning to deal with a mixer is, vis a vis getting a good live sound and taking advantage of all the acoustic looping possibilities. When you can take your mixer and break it down blindfolded in the dark with the drill sargeant barking at you at 1 am, then you know you're in the music zone. So start checking out mixers and the possiblities of hanging your loopers/processors off the aux channels, which will give you molto/mucho/maxi flexibility as far as tossing out cool stuff to the audience. 3: Stereo processors are a GREAT idea after the looper... We use the now discontinued Lexicon Vortex and we SWEAR by it, but we are a loopy lot and some listeners swear at us. There are a lot of stereo processors out there though, and a lot of used one that will take a mono source -- like what will be coming in from your loopers via your mixers -- and turn it into true stereo. We have found the best way to grab our audience is to do everything live in TRUE stereo. The ambient fields created this way can be startling over the most modest pa. Put another way, you will have the biggest sounding acoustic guitar on the block! And remember, that's even before you start looping, so yes, once you get that mixer and pickup sorted out...look for a stereo preamp/processor/effects box. 4: Finally loopers. We own the Jamman and the Echoplex. We love them both for their unique personalities. The Jamman had achieved a cult status by way of now being extinct, but the Echoplex is not unduly complex as far as instant looping gratification, has a MUCH better foot pedal. Can be loaded with three full minutes of memory and is much, much deeper in terms of what can be done if you really get into it. We're not crazy about the manual though, and the faceplate interface is not as intuitive as the Jamman or the Boomer- rrrrrrrannnnngss. Best, the LoOpDoctOrs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:32:21 EST From: Takadimi To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:38:21 -0800 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Echoplex syncing Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 8:19 AM -0500 1/20/98, KelRey wrote: >Kim, > >Does holding down the parameter button on power up reintialize the Loop 5 >version setting all parameters back to their original state. yes. you have to hold it longer than in the old version (about 5 seconds or so while it's starting up), but it's the same. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:01:39 -0800 From: "Matt McCabe" To: "Loop List" Subject: Re: Loopers' Delight CD project link Message-Id: <199801201947.LAA21066@gw1.bi-tech.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > that links to Mr. McCabe's site....Matt, is everything working over there? > > I just tried it, and it seemed to work, maybe it's fixed itself. It's working. If you hit the page and get an error message hit reload. That normally works. BTW, if your name appears on the list of 33 esteemed contributors for the Looper CD, you should be dropping your DAT or CD-R in the mail ASAP to: Matt McCabe 424 W. 2nd Ave Chico, CA 95926 So far I haven't received any tapes and the foul, foul, evil deadline is fast approaching! Buy some stamps for crying out loud!!! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:18:29 -0600 From: Tom Spaulding To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Manual Overwrite (formerly Manuel O'Veritas) Message-Id: <98Jan20.141600cst.26882@gateway.gibson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Doctors of Loop and all ye assembled Loopers- Yea, verily the Echoplex manual doth not suffice. It is an excellent overview, (thank you Warren Sirota)but the unit is too deep to talk about, it is maybe best explained with examples. It even has the awful reputation of being complex! Therefore, everyone on this list who wants to contribute to re-writing the manual, (to be edited by the fabulous Jackie O. herself), please choose a section you feel most competent with and re-write it. I will collect all efforts and re-print a manual written by the actual experienced users of the Echoplex. Kind of like a Lutheran Ladies Auxiliary cookbook, with italicized credits at the bottom of each recipe thanking the author(s). We will incorporate the "best of" the digest archives and hopefully Kim and Co.'s helpful pages, etc. Free t-shirt to all who contribute. Pepsi and balloons for the kids. All in favor of manual by committee e-mail me. All opposed, look upon the book ye mighty and despair! (Some may think this is a low-budget, pandering, corporate-drive, attempt to enlist off-payroll intellects and transform them into glorified tech manual authors solely because they have spent the time necessary to truly understand the product at a level the so-called Product Manager at Oberheim cannot hope to attain without weeks and months of sleepless night. They are correct. Thank you.) Tom "UnaLooper" KuzIsedzo ;) At 12:58 PM 1/20/98 -0600, you wrote: >Hi New Potential Acoustic Looper: > > > >Rich Lamphear wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm an acoustic guitarist/singer/composer and I'm getting interested in the >> concept of looping and processing the acoustic guitar. I'm intrigued with >> the idea of extending my solo guitar and voice concept to incorporate new >> sounds, textures, and rhythms via electronics. >> >> I've got a little money to throw at this (~$1500) and I'd like some advice >> on how I might best spend the money. >> >> My idea is to install a decent quality pickup on my acoustic, something >> that would maintain a reasonable amount of the acoustic guitar timbre >> before sending it to processing. I've heard good things about the Sunrise >> and McIntyre pickups for this type of application. >> >> The Echoplex Digital Pro seems the clear choice for a looper. Has >> availability of these improved lately? (sorry if it's a faq, just joined >> the list). I did phone Thoroughbred Music and they had three in stock, but >> no pedalboards. >> >> In addition, I'd like a multifx box to do standard digital processing for >> both the guitar and the voice. My main question revolves around the issue >> of stereo processing. Do you really need 2 Echoplexes to get a decent >> stereo sound happening? Do most people running stereo process first (add >> reverb, flange, etc.) and then go into 2 Echoplexes? Or do people loop >> first and then send the mono looped signal into a stereo processor and >> output from there? >> >> My choices (for around $1500) seem to be: >> 1) Echoplex mono into good quality multifx to stereo output. >> 2) El cheapo multifx stereo output into 2 Echoplexes operating in sync. >> >> Any advice to help me think about this would be much appreciated. It sure >> would be great to be able to do both the processing and looping in a single >> box, but I don't think anything like that's on the market....correct? >> >> thanks, >> Rich > >The LoOpDoctOrs have their own particular take on "appropriate" technology, >but we've journeyed down some of the paths you wish to explore and here's our >two cents. > >1: acoustic pickups are enjoying a renaissance. We use the Highlander system >-- piezo and internal mike combo. It works just grand and you can split the >seperate feeds out of the guitar...so there are more processing/looping >choices. That said, a single source piezo or whatever will work fine too. >Sure it will sound like a piezo/whatever, but it's there to loop and morph, >etc. > >2: One thing that we think is important on your equipment list for live >applications is a MIXER. We use Mackie 1202s, but there are any number of >excellent and affordable small mixers. It can't be emphasized how important >learning to deal with a mixer is, vis a vis getting a good live sound and >taking advantage of all the acoustic looping possibilities. When you can take >your mixer and break it down blindfolded in the dark with the drill sargeant >barking at you at 1 am, then you know you're in the music zone. So start >checking out mixers and the possiblities of hanging your loopers/processors >off the aux channels, which will give you molto/mucho/maxi flexibility as far >as tossing out cool stuff to the audience. > >3: Stereo processors are a GREAT idea after the looper... We use the now >discontinued Lexicon Vortex and we SWEAR by it, but we are a loopy lot and >some listeners swear at us. There are a lot of stereo processors out there >though, and a lot of used one that will take a mono source -- like what will >be coming in from your loopers via your mixers -- and turn it into true >stereo. We have found the best way to grab our audience is to do everything >live in TRUE stereo. The ambient fields created this way can be startling >over the most modest pa. Put another way, you will have the biggest sounding >acoustic guitar on the block! And remember, that's even before you start >looping, so yes, once you get that mixer and pickup sorted out...look for a >stereo preamp/processor/effects box. > >4: Finally loopers. We own the Jamman and the Echoplex. We love them both >for their unique personalities. The Jamman had achieved a cult status by way >of now being extinct, but the Echoplex is not unduly complex as far as instant >looping gratification, has a MUCH better foot pedal. Can be loaded with three >full minutes of memory and is much, much deeper in terms of what can be done >if you really get into it. We're not crazy about the manual though, and the >faceplate interface is not as intuitive as the Jamman or the Boomer- >rrrrrrrannnnngss. > >Best, >the LoOpDoctOrs > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:29:57 -0500 From: Matthew Blais To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Echoplex syncing Message-ID: <01BD25A8.AB5D6500.mblais@ma.ultranet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday, January 20, 1998 5:49 AM, Kim Flint [SMTP:kflint@annihilist.com] wrote: > First of all, with LoopIII v5.0 the default parameters are set for stereo. > So start off by resetting the parameters on both units. You do this by > turning the power on with the Parameter button held down. Keep it held > until the start up screen finishes and you get to the reset screen. Now all > your parameters should be set right for stereo. > > Next, decide which unit is the master. This is the one where you will > execute all the controls. The slave will just follow it. > > Connect a Midi cable from the Midi Out of the master unit to the Midi in of > the slave. At this point you should be able to execute functions on the > master and see that the slave follows. > > The BrotherSync connection ensures that the stereo units maintain very > tight synchronization between each other, actually locking the sample > clocks together. Make sure you have the right sort of cable. It should be a > 1/4" tip-ring-sleeve (TRS) cable. A mono cable will NOT work. Connect the > BrotherSync's of the two units together with this cable. > > That should be it. The master should control the slave, and you should have > stereo loops. Let me know if you have any other questions. I followed your recommendations to the letter; same results. On these units, BeatSync works, BrotherSync does not. The "sync" dot *never* lights (and the timing drifts) when the units are in BrotherSync mode (default setup). I have tested the cables. I thought perhaps it might be a bad connection internally, but when I had one 5.0 and one 3.x unit (same hardware as now), I seem to remember that BrotherSync OCCASIONALLY would show a "sync" dot, so there must be good connections (?) Please make some more suggestions! I am anxious to get this working; it's been about eight months, now. Thanks, -- Matthew Blais ____________________________________________________ "Healing and Spiritual Crisis" WWW site: http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/blais.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:37:01 From: "Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D." To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: New to looping/processing Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980120233701.1d4f7e26@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>It only makes sense, If the JamMan is discontinued >>and currently is gaining value on the used market at an astrnomical rate why >>wouldn't lexicon want to create a "new" technology to counteract Oberheim's >>success with the Echo-complex? >Because many people waited until the JamMan (and the Vortex) was >discontinued and being blown-out at deep discount before buying one. >That's not the sort of sales record that inspires companies to invest in >new technology. I think (and we could do this to death) that unless you're _really_ going to get into looping (and get an EDP), the JM was just too expensive at its original price. Sound quality apart, most people don't want a helluvalot more functionality than the Zoom 508. If it had more memory and a "fade" function, I'd trade my JM for a 508!!! Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:44:44 -0500 From: David White To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Manual Overwrite (formerly Manuel O'Veritas) Message-Id: <98Jan20.174651est.18819@thicket.arbortext.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As a software product manager in a niche market (SGML/XML authoring and publishing), I find Tom's admittedly blatant attempt to solicit user help in addressing a weakness of his product... refreshing. I'm going to suggest it to our documentation department. I think I'll send in re-written chapters of documentation to Honda, Compaq, Northern Telecom and Microsoft. Especially Microsoft. No, wait... no, not Microsoft... I like my job. Best regards, David White Tom Spaulding wrote: > Doctors of Loop and all ye assembled Loopers- > > Yea, verily the Echoplex manual doth not suffice. It is an excellent > overview, (thank you Warren Sirota)but the unit is too deep to talk about, > it is maybe best explained with examples. It even has the awful reputation > of being complex! > > Therefore, everyone on this list who wants to contribute to re-writing the > manual, (to be edited by the fabulous Jackie O. herself), please choose a > section you feel most competent with and re-write it. I will collect all > efforts and re-print a manual written by the actual experienced users of > the Echoplex. > > Kind of like a Lutheran Ladies Auxiliary cookbook, with italicized credits > at the bottom of each recipe thanking the author(s). We will incorporate > the "best of" the digest archives and hopefully Kim and Co.'s helpful > pages, etc. Free t-shirt to all who contribute. Pepsi and balloons for the > kids. > > All in favor of manual by committee e-mail me. All opposed, look upon the > book ye mighty and despair! > > (Some may think this is a low-budget, pandering, corporate-drive, attempt > to enlist off-payroll intellects and transform them into glorified tech > manual authors solely because they have spent the time necessary to truly > understand the product at a level the so-called Product Manager at Oberheim > cannot hope to attain without weeks and months of sleepless night. They are > correct. Thank you.) > > Tom "UnaLooper" KuzIsedzo ;) > > At 12:58 PM 1/20/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Hi New Potential Acoustic Looper: > > > > > > > >Rich Lamphear wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> I'm an acoustic guitarist/singer/composer and I'm getting interested in the > >> concept of looping and processing the acoustic guitar. I'm intrigued with > >> the idea of extending my solo guitar and voice concept to incorporate new > >> sounds, textures, and rhythms via electronics. > >> > >> I've got a little money to throw at this (~$1500) and I'd like some advice > >> on how I might best spend the money. > >> > >> My idea is to install a decent quality pickup on my acoustic, something > >> that would maintain a reasonable amount of the acoustic guitar timbre > >> before sending it to processing. I've heard good things about the Sunrise > >> and McIntyre pickups for this type of application. > >> > >> The Echoplex Digital Pro seems the clear choice for a looper. Has > >> availability of these improved lately? (sorry if it's a faq, just joined > >> the list). I did phone Thoroughbred Music and they had three in stock, but > >> no pedalboards. > >> > >> In addition, I'd like a multifx box to do standard digital processing for > >> both the guitar and the voice. My main question revolves around the issue > >> of stereo processing. Do you really need 2 Echoplexes to get a decent > >> stereo sound happening? Do most people running stereo process first (add > >> reverb, flange, etc.) and then go into 2 Echoplexes? Or do people loop > >> first and then send the mono looped signal into a stereo processor and > >> output from there? > >> > >> My choices (for around $1500) seem to be: > >> 1) Echoplex mono into good quality multifx to stereo output. > >> 2) El cheapo multifx stereo output into 2 Echoplexes operating in sync. > >> > >> Any advice to help me think about this would be much appreciated. It sure > >> would be great to be able to do both the processing and looping in a single > >> box, but I don't think anything like that's on the market....correct? > >> > >> thanks, > >> Rich > > > >The LoOpDoctOrs have their own particular take on "appropriate" technology, > >but we've journeyed down some of the paths you wish to explore and here's our > >two cents. > > > >1: acoustic pickups are enjoying a renaissance. We use the Highlander system > >-- piezo and internal mike combo. It works just grand and you can split the > >seperate feeds out of the guitar...so there are more processing/looping > >choices. That said, a single source piezo or whatever will work fine too. > >Sure it will sound like a piezo/whatever, but it's there to loop and morph, > >etc. > > > >2: One thing that we think is important on your equipment list for live > >applications is a MIXER. We use Mackie 1202s, but there are any number of > >excellent and affordable small mixers. It can't be emphasized how important > >learning to deal with a mixer is, vis a vis getting a good live sound and > >taking advantage of all the acoustic looping possibilities. When you can > take > >your mixer and break it down blindfolded in the dark with the drill sargeant > >barking at you at 1 am, then you know you're in the music zone. So start > >checking out mixers and the possiblities of hanging your loopers/processors > >off the aux channels, which will give you molto/mucho/maxi flexibility as far > >as tossing out cool stuff to the audience. > > > >3: Stereo processors are a GREAT idea after the looper... We use the now > >discontinued Lexicon Vortex and we SWEAR by it, but we are a loopy lot and > >some listeners swear at us. There are a lot of stereo processors out there > >though, and a lot of used one that will take a mono source -- like what will > >be coming in from your loopers via your mixers -- and turn it into true > >stereo. We have found the best way to grab our audience is to do everything > >live in TRUE stereo. The ambient fields created this way can be startling > >over the most modest pa. Put another way, you will have the biggest sounding > >acoustic guitar on the block! And remember, that's even before you start > >looping, so yes, once you get that mixer and pickup sorted out...look for a > >stereo preamp/processor/effects box. > > > >4: Finally loopers. We own the Jamman and the Echoplex. We love them both > >for their unique personalities. The Jamman had achieved a cult status by way > >of now being extinct, but the Echoplex is not unduly complex as far as > instant > >looping gratification, has a MUCH better foot pedal. Can be loaded with > three > >full minutes of memory and is much, much deeper in terms of what can be done > >if you really get into it. We're not crazy about the manual though, and the > >faceplate interface is not as intuitive as the Jamman or the Boomer- > >rrrrrrrannnnngss. > > > >Best, > >the LoOpDoctOrs > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:45:42 -0800 From: Laurie Hatch To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Hello... Message-ID: <01BD25C3.18810140.lahatch@dnai.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Corynne wrote: > Hi Laurie, It's nice to find other women doing this sort of thing! >Thanks for the reply! What instrument(s) to you play? I'd like to hear >some of what you do... I'll be talking again soon, but as of now, it's >late here so I'm going to sign off. I play bass, mostly. Just recently started making more elaborate loops with a "plex n' tex" rack expansion. (As in echo- and vor-. Sounds like something that is done at a neo-gothic plastic surgeon's joint. Yikes.) You've certainly come to the right place to talk loops. (Does that mean we end up repeating ourselves a lot?) There are some incredibly knowledgeable and helpful people hangin out here, if a little twisted. %^) Moebius Strippers? I'd better stop now. ciao -- laurie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 98 21:06:06 EST From: nm@mail.amsinc.com (ccMail SMTPLINK) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: ccMail SMTPLINK Undeliverable Message Message-Id: <9800208853.AA885359166@mail.amsinc.com> Message undeliverable at this time Original text follows ---------------------------------------------- Received: from ferret.slip.net by mail.amsinc.com (SMTPLINK V2.11.01) ; Tue, 20 Jan 98 21:04:30 EST Return-Path: Received: from lists by ferret.slip.net with local (Exim 1.73 #8) id 0xupWO-0004p1-00; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:04:04 -0800 Message-ID: <01BD25C3.18810140.lahatch@dnai.com> From: Laurie Hatch To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Hello... Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:45:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Resent-Message-ID: <"_ebSDC.A.k6D.QYVx0"@ferret> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2402 Precedence: list Resent-Sender: SmartList Resent-To: Edward_Chang@mail.amsinc.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:04:04 -0800 Attachment converted: shards o' data:noname 1 (????/----) (00000BC1) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:37:46 -0800 From: Laurie Hatch To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Guitar and audio schematics Message-ID: <01BD25C3.13116740.lahatch@dnai.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just came across this site for schematic sources, don't know if it's been posted on this list before. This URL will take you to guitar effects schematics, there's a bunch of vintage stuff listed. Check the "parent" and "top" directories as well, for general audio resources. http://nyquist.ee.ualberta.ca/~charro/cookbook/audio/guitar/ laurie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:21:31 From: Scott To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Laurie's schematic site Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980120212131.28a72c16@mail.dimensional.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Laurie wrote: >http://nyquist.ee.ualberta.ca/~charro/cookbook/audio/guitar/ Holy mutha-lode, Batman! Get it while you can kids, I don't know how legal this site is but WOW. Got me a schematic for the Micro-Synthesizer. Just remember: don't shake hands with Mister Electricity. Thanks, Laurie! Scott Bullerwell tanelorn@dimensional.com Boulder, Colorado, USA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:39:08 EST From: MIvanBerk To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: LiSa (was Re: New to looping/processing) Message-ID: <4f324bb1.34c58a00@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit As Dan pointed out: >>If you feel like dealing with a computer (a Mac), the software sampler LiSa will do all this stuff and more. Checkout a demo at www.xs4all.nl.<< I recently saw British violinist Kaffe Matthews play a solo set with LiSa and a Powerbook at Harvestworks in NYC. She played a pretty mind-bending polyphonic loop improvisation, and gave a short demo/lecture on her methods and tools (oddly enough, I saw Fripp the following evening, using a stack of TC2290s and Eventides in order to achieve similar multitrack looping goals). LiSa itself is a pretty impressive piece of software, allowing for realtime record and play of five voices, with pitch/speed control and some rudimentary DSP functions for each (and at $250 or so, it costs less than any available hardware looper--not including the Powerbook, of course). -mike --------------------------------