------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 2 Today's Topics: Re: Time machine question [ Adam Levin ] Voice Vandal [ babs ] Re: Re: Re: Re: NJ Stick/Loop gigs [ PMimlitsch ] How to tell the difference [ Clark Battle ] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NJ Stick/Loop gi [ Fmplautus ] Re: How to tell the difference [ Kim Flint ] Re:nutty Time machine question [ Tom Lambrecht ] What's that burning smell... [ Tom Spaulding ] Re: Philadelphia Loop Show 1998 [ paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, ] Re: Re: Philadelphia Loop Show 1998 [ GILGOOD ] Gravikords, Whirlies, & Pyrophones [ Paolo Valladolid To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Re: Time machine question Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, T.W. Hartnett wrote: > A question to the other TM owners--do your jacks have nuts? That's a rather personal question, but yes, they do. -Adam --- "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue, out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one becomes a Hearer." - Chandrakirti ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:08:19 +0000 From: babs To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Voice Vandal Message-ID: With all the talk of Time Machines and delays with pitch controls , I thought some of you may be interested in this little gizmo. Maplin electronics in the UK sell an electronics kit called a 'Voice Vandal'. It has echo,delay,chopping level,digital distorsion and speed/pitch adjustment. It was designed for getting weird dalek-like effects I think. A sort of NIN-in-a-box , I haven't got one yet , so I can't say whether it's electronic earcandy or a sonic Turkey... but if you're interested you may find some info on their website. www.maplin.co.uk Babs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:56:07 EST From: PMimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: NJ Stick/Loop gigs Message-ID: <57f46273.34b2c49e@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/6/98 3:13:20 PM, you wrote: <> Down the road from where? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:01:50 -0800 From: Clark Battle To: "'loopers-delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: How to tell the difference Message-ID: <01BD1ABC.66604180@paladin.bsquare.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way to tell the difference between old Echoplexi and new Echoplexi with the latest version of the Loop software? I have located one but dont know what version it is. Can you tell by the serial number or something? Clark Battle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:20:35 EST From: Fmplautus To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NJ Stick/Loop gigs Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Ashland, Oregon...home of the LoOpDoctOrs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 18:12:00 -0800 From: Kim Flint To: "battleaxe@worldnet.att.net" , "'loopers-delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Re: How to tell the difference Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980107021200.0099ad04@pop.chromatic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Any Echoplex DP can have either version of software, as the hardware hasn't significantly changed in that regard. so if you get one with an old version of Loop installed, you can certainly get it upgraded. You can tell which software version is installed right at power up, when it displays the version. The older software versions are very pragmatic and get right to the point, displaying something like "LD3.3.2" before showing the loop time. The new version is a bit more dramatic in proclaiming it's identity, scrolling "Loop3" across the display 3 times before displaying the version, which is currently 5.0. And it should be pretty clear whether it's a really old echoplex or not, as those ones use tape. The really, really old ones are also green and use tubes. ;-) kim At 04:01 PM 1/6/98 -0800, Clark Battle wrote: >Is there a way to tell the difference between old Echoplexi and new >Echoplexi with the latest version of the Loop software? I have located >one but dont know what version it is. Can you tell by the serial number >or something? > >Clark Battle > > > _______________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-752-9284 Mpact Systems Engineering kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research http://www.chromatic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:59:17 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:nutty Time machine question Message-Id: <199801071359.IAA26421@newman.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:18 PM 1/6/98 -0000, you wrote: >I just received a Time Machine (like, two minutes ago), and I was looking >at the back jacks. They're quarter-inch mono jacks which protrude about >3/8" beyond the chassis, and they're threaded on the outside. I'd prefer >that there were those big plastic nuts threaded on the jacks so that the >strain relief is transferred to the metal chassis, not the pc board >inside. A question to the other TM owners--do your jacks have nuts? > >Travis Hartnett > > > mine also has black plastic nuts threaded on and I threaded one on the 1/4" input jack on my Jamman so I know at least one place where you could get replacements congrats on the Time machine acquisition--the more I play with my RDS 8000, the more I like it. drone on~~~~~Tom Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:59:19 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: fresh Vortex sightings Message-Id: <199801071359.IAA26427@newman.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When you can't sleep in the Stygian depthes of 3 AM, you troll te Web for goodies--both of htese were posted in hte last 12 hours Vortex, hardly used best offer over $125 gorgon@telerama.lm.com Two Vortexes $ 275 ea. Sound Advice 207.883.7426 bleen on~~~~~Tom Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:03:33 -0800 From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Re: Time machine question Message-ID: <001001bd1b85$cfc16400$a022dacf@sgoodman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting. No nuts on the 7.6 I've got... >I just received a Time Machine (like, two minutes ago), and I was looking >at the back jacks. They're quarter-inch mono jacks which protrude about >3/8" beyond the chassis, and they're threaded on the outside. I'd prefer >that there were those big plastic nuts threaded on the jacks so that the >strain relief is transferred to the metal chassis, not the pc board >inside. A question to the other TM owners--do your jacks have nuts? > >Travis Hartnett > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: Emmanuel Angel To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Vortex for sale Message-Id: <199801071651.LAA12547@dolphin.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For sale: 1 Lexicon Vortex: Brand new in box. Never used! Price: best offer over $300 plus shipping. reply to E. Angel: angel2@dolphin.upenn.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 98 11:09:19 -0000 From: "T.W. Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Time Machine arcana Message-Id: <199801071709.JAA29780@scv1.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain A couple of Time Machine tidbits: € If you ever open the thing up, DO NOT unscrew any of the screws on the bottom of the unit. The two on one side are the transformer mounts, and the other two support the PCB. Loosen these, and little spacing nuts and stuff start rattling around the inside. There are LOTS of screws on the outside, but you only need to undo the front-panel torque screws and the left, right and top panel screws. You must take off the top--the board will not slide straight out the front, and be careful with the power supply wire on the back. € I found out that Digitech has online tech support, and I received a response within twenty minutes, although they advertise a 48 hour turnaround. According to them, if the Time Machine goes down, they have a $55 flat fee for out of warranty repairs (I don't know which products this applies to). € I asked about the jack nuts on the back, and this is what they said: "I know that there were a few years of production on those units when we did not put nuts on those jacks. The jacks were hard soldered to the PCB, and the PCB fit flush against the back pannel inside the unit. This made the engineers feel that it would be strong enough to withstand the strain from cables being connected." For my piece of mind, I'm going to thread nuts on the jacks, just to be sure. Kudos to Digitech! Travis Hartnett ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:18:22 -0800 From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Thanks Travis! Message-ID: <001201bd1b98$a543b9e0$ea22dacf@sgoodman> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ...for giving us the benefit of your experience, which sounds like something I'm glad I've not had to do. >€ If you ever open the thing up... Why did you open yours in the first place? Not that I've a fear of the 'pandora effect', I just don't know enough about the unit to feel good about opening it up. An Electro-Harmonix Small Stone, MAYBE, but I doubt it. :) >€ I found out that Digitech has online tech support... What's their number? >For my piece of mind, I'm going to thread nuts on the jacks, just to be sure. Ditto here. I recently took The Rig up to Reno for a weekend jamming with an old friend, and, in the absence of a proper shipping box for the TM and my QuadraVerb, packaged them both securely in the center of a suitcase that allowed enough room on all sides for good cushioning. Wipe the look of appalled shock off yer faces, folks. :) But it worked, in addition to the standard-issue Fender case for Cthulhu, my Strat. Given the inflated prices of most decent crates, I'm going to design my own that doubles as a rack mount. Is it just me, or is business these days rife with hotshots who operate on an extreme use of Supply/Demand, to the extent that sectors exist using artificial price levelling? For a long time this was prevalent with synths, esp. drum machines; then it was digital keyboards, then MIDI software/hardware, and so on.. Every time something like the above items produced a diminishing profit margin, some other product becomes more inflated. Why is it the cost of a good crate, then, has not diminished? I mean, some of them cost more than the gear I'd put it it. Perhaps there haven't been enough technological developments in that business to lower the costs of production/purchase. But on the other hand, perhaps the Case business has had a huge profit margin from the beginning. Unless artificially controlled as in the case of monopolies, this situation should almost shout for others to produce a competitively-priced quality product. So why haven't we seen this? How bout that folks? Whatta you think? Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios EarthLight Productions * Get the Loop Of The Week Free! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 98 12:49:15 -0000 From: "T.W. Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Re: Thanks Travis! Message-Id: <199801071849.KAA25564@scv3.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain >>€ If you ever open the thing up... > >Why did you open yours in the first place? Not that I've a fear of the >'pandora effect', I just don't know enough about the unit to feel good about >opening it up. An Electro-Harmonix Small Stone, MAYBE, but I doubt it. :) > I bought it used, and there was already something rattling around loose inside, and I wanted to see if I could squirt some contact cleaner into the feedback pot (it makes a horrible loud burst of white noise if it's rotated in the lower 25% of its range, which I never use, but I thought I'd try and clean it anyway). In the course of hunting down the intial loose part, I mistakenly loosened the bottom screws, and then had to dig my way out of that pit. >>€ I found out that Digitech has online tech support... > >What's their number? You can email them using the form from their webpage at: http://www.digitech.com/mailroom/index.htm Travis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:31:31 -0500 From: lwordsman@pirnie.com To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Noisy Knobs Message-Id: <199801072131.QAA00158@mailnet.malcolmpirnie.com> Travis Hartnett Wrote: " I wanted to see if I could squirt some contact cleaner into the feedback pot (it makes a horrible loud burst of white noise if it's rotated in the lower 25% of its range. " My amp makes terrible noise when I turn the knobs and I was unaware of any product that could help reduce that noise. Please tell me more. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:55:53 -0500 From: Jonathan Brainin To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Philadelphia Loop Show 1998 Message-ID: <01BD1B8F.65EAC580@jbrainin@interactive.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey there! What's happening? Is there any news about Loopapalooza '98 yet? I still am hoping to be a part of this year's show. Is there anything you need me to do in the interim? Jonathan Brainin jbrainin@interactive.net On Friday, October 31, 1997 11:42 AM, JSPEEr [SMTP:jspeer@haverford.edu] wrote: > Hi all, > > So I'd like to start thinking about putting another Loop Show on, most > likely in March or April again of next year. I am not entirely sure what > the goal of this follow-up show should be; Perhaps to get entirely > different artists than last year, comes immediately to mind. But we had > such a strong line-up last year, and I'm not deeply philosophically opposed > to repeat performances, particularly since this is a full year later. > > Anybody interested in this show, in participating, in attending, in making > suggestions, questions, whatever, please email me. I'm sure I will > gradually get a sense of what the show will be like once I get some more > input. > > Looking forward to hearing from you! > > Jim Speer > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 23:24:08 -0500 From: mark sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Philadelphia Loop Show 1998 Message-ID: <34B454E6.6EE50A80@mailbox.syr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > So I'd like to start thinking about putting another Loop Show on, > most > > likely in March or April again of next year. I am not entirely sure > what > > the goal of this follow-up show should be; Perhaps to get entirely > > different artists than last year, comes immediately to mind. But we > had > > such a strong line-up last year, and I'm not deeply philosophically > opposed > > to repeat performances, particularly since this is a full year > later. > > > > Anybody interested in this show, in participating, in attending, in > making > > suggestions, questions, whatever, please email me. I'm sure I will > > gradually get a sense of what the show will be like once I get some > more > > input. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you! > > > > Jim Speer > > > > Hey, I would love to participate in a Looper show. I perform solo and with a group that uses multipal JamMen. If you need a demo tape, one can be supplied. Let me know. -- -- Mark @ ø??? IAMNOTHERE c ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:25:18 -0800 From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Are there... Message-ID: <001301bd1c06$9437ac60$5e22dacf@sgoodman> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ..any of us on this list in Atlanta? My sister's family lives there and it seems to have an interesting if undeveloped arts community... I was wondering about the idea of perhaps banging our instruments together - perhaps even publicly, the next time I go out there to visit (sometime in the next 4-5 months). Kindly reply to me at sgoodman@earthlight.net Stephen Goodman * Download The Loop Of The Week and more! EarthLight Studios * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios *--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:32:37 -0500 From: "Hogan, Greg (Exchange)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: MPX R1 Message-Id: <215C1D5A0FFDD011B3CC00805FC18C291B8F29@NTSRV2.LEXICON.COM> Content-Type: text/plain Awhile back Kim had asked about the MPX R1:"- Can the footswitches be programmed to act in a momentary or toggle function? Momentary meaning you press the switch and one midi string is sent, when you let go of the switch, a second midi string is sent. Toggle meaning the first time I press a given switch, it sends one string of midi commands, the second time I press it it sends a second string. The most obvious example of momentary is playing notes or chords on a synth, where press down on the switch sends the note-on and releasing it sends the note off. Toggle is useful for a stomp-box like approach, where you might have one effect assigned to a given switch. So you press that switch and the effect comes on, press again and it turns off. The PMC-10 and Roctron pedals can do these and I find it extremely useful. > - Does it have midi in? If so, can it do things like midi merge, midi > filtering, etc.? > > - Can you send all possible midi commands? For example, I want to send > note-on, note-off to synths and samplers. I'd also like to send > start-song > and stop-song messages to sequencers. And for any commands not > explicitly available, I'd like to be able to send sysex, or even just > directly type in > the hex for the midi command. (for example, I'm a long way from > needing > this, but eventually I would like to use Midi Show Control for > lighting and > such. If I could spontaneously set the lighting while playing, that > would > be very cool. I wouldn't expect this in a midi pedal, but if I could > type > in the hex for it myself that would be fine.) Again, I can do this > stuff > with the PMC-10. But like Miko, if the pmc starts acting up I'd like > to > know what else I can get." > > - how many patches/banks/sets etc can it hold? > > thanks, > > kim Sorry for the delay in responding to this. There is no toggling of different functions from one switch. It will send all MIDI commands except for Note On and Note Off. There is no SYSEX programming. There is a MIDI in for merging data but no filtering. There are 100 setups. Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I can do for you. Best regards, Greg Hogan Lexicon Customer Service Phone +781-280-0372 FAX +781-280-0499 email: ghogan@lexicon.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 98 13:39:19 CST From: "Brian L Jackson" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Upgraded JAMMAN For Sale$$ Message-Id: <9800088842.AA884296727@ccbbn5.dttus.com> Hi Loopers! Lexicon JAMMAN For Sale w/upgraded memory, manual, (2) footswitches will take best offer email direct to "brijackson@dttus.com" Cheers Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:22:48 EST From: ENAT21213 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Philadelphia Loop Show 1998 Message-ID: <38e8bc7a.34b53599@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello Jim Speer, I play with a project called Electric Bird Noise.We play cinematic loop and layered intrumental guitar music.We are very interested in playing your loop show in Philadelphia.Please send us more information.Were can we send a promo pack? Thank you Brian McKenzie ENAT21213@aol.com In a message dated 98-01-07 17:25:08 EST, you write: << So I'd like to start thinking about putting another Loop Show on, most > likely in March or April again of next year. I am not entirely sure what > the goal of this follow-up show should be; Perhaps to get entirely > different artists than last year, comes immediately to mind. But we had > such a strong line-up last year, and I'm not deeply philosophically opposed > to repeat performances, particularly since this is a full year later. > > Anybody interested in this show, in participating, in attending, in making > suggestions, questions, whatever, please email me. I'm sure I will > gradually get a sense of what the show will be like once I get some more > input. > > Looking forward to hearing from you! > Jim Speer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:08:39 -0600 From: Tom Spaulding To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: What's that burning smell... Message-Id: <98Jan8.180621cst.26883@gateway.gibson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" EDP fans- After several less than accurate guesses about the actual shipment dates of e-prom upgrades, we humbly announce that we began shipping yesterday. We have a list of who has already paid and are waiting, but in case you want to re-confirm your order, or just feel like yelling at us for taking so long, please e-mail pmurphy@gibson.com. Our trained personnel are standing by... Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:55:55 -0400 From: paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Ph.D.) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Philadelphia Loop Show 1998 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As you know Jim, Accidents will Happen would also be interested. >Hello Jim Speer, >I play with a project called Electric Bird Noise.We play cinematic loop and >layered intrumental guitar music.We are very interested in playing your loop >show in Philadelphia.Please send us more information.Were can we send a promo >pack? >Thank you >Brian McKenzie >ENAT21213@aol.com > >In a message dated 98-01-07 17:25:08 EST, you write: > ><< So I'd like to start thinking about putting another Loop Show on, most > > likely in March or April again of next year. I am not entirely sure what > > the goal of this follow-up show should be; Perhaps to get entirely > > different artists than last year, comes immediately to mind. But we had > > such a strong line-up last year, and I'm not deeply philosophically opposed > > to repeat performances, particularly since this is a full year later. > > > > Anybody interested in this show, in participating, in attending, in making > > suggestions, questions, whatever, please email me. I'm sure I will > > gradually get a sense of what the show will be like once I get some more > > input. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you! > > > Jim Speer Paul Poplawski, Ph.D. email = ppoplawski@state.de.us or paulpop@ssnet.com phone service = 302/737-4491 weekday office = 302/577-4980 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:56:26 EST From: GILGOOD To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Philadelphia Loop Show 1998 Message-ID: <3717174f.34b5bc0c@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit when and where is this show, again. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:24:43 -0800 (PST) From: Paolo Valladolid To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Gravikords, Whirlies, & Pyrophones Message-Id: <199801090624.WAA01428@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently found a book/CD published by Ellipsis Arts entitled Gravikords, Whirlies, & Pyrophones: Experimental Musical Instruments. Since most of you folks play instruments that are themselves still close to the cutting edge (Stick, loopers, Ztars, etc.) I thought I'd write a bit about some of the instruments covered in the book. Daxophone - Invented by innovative guitar designer/musician Hans Reichel, this consists of a wooden "tongue" and the Dax, a wooden chunk with both the top and bottom slightly curved for a convex shape with one side fretted. The Daxophone is played by bowing the tongue while pressing the Dax against it. The book shows photos of 12 different Daxophone tongues. I echo here comments posted a while back about this instrument - it has a remarkably vocal quality that can at one instant sound like a person and at aonther sound like an animal. Waterphone - Invented by Richard Waters (how appropriate!). It looks like a stainless steel vase with metal rods attached to the bottom section protruding upward. It can be played with a bow, struck, rubbed with a mallet, etc. The sound comes from the interaction of the ringing metal with the water inside of the instrument. Pneumaphone - Inventor: Godefried-Willem Raes. This instrument consists of one or more inflatable cushions, home-made wind instruments, air compresors, and a mess of air hoses connecting the compressors to keep the cushions inflated and connecting the cushions to the wind instruments. Thus, you play a pneumaphone by sitting on a cushion or squeezing it some other way. Circuit-Bent Instruments - Inventor: Qubais Reed Ghazala. Ghazala developed the art of circuit-bending - short-circuiting audio components deliberatly in search of new sounds. He's built some interesting instruments with this idea, but the one on the CD is an Incantor, a heavily modified Speak And Spell toy that is played by positioning metal balls to affect the speech patterns and tone of the Speak And Spell voice synthesizer. Bamboo Saxophone - A Jamaican musician named Sugar Belly built a sax outof bamboo, cardboard, and tin. Greg, is your bamboo sax (on the Sol album) like this? :) I just realized I could go on all night writing about these instruments. Suffice it to say this book/CD was a pleasant discovery. Some of the music (like the Sugar Belly, Daxophone, and Theremin tracks) is actually quite accessible. It's very inspirational to read that there are still a lot of very creative instrument designers out there. Cheers, Paolo --------------------------------