------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 26 Today's Topics: RE: time machines/electro harmonix! [ Curtis Bahn ] Re: Stick/Loop Gig [ Doug Wyatt ] Re: Desert Island Discs [ djdowling@earthlink.net ] Spaghetti etc [ djdowling@earthlink.net ] RE: time machines/electro harmonix! [ Tom Lambrecht ] Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V98 #25 [ KemMc@aol.com ] RE: EH/Time machines on Loopers site [ Tom Lambrecht ] NAMM Report [ tspauldi@mail.nash.gibson.com ] Re: jamman 32-sec upgrade chips [ Tom Lambrecht ] TEST 31 Jan [ David Myers ] Re: TEST 31 Jan [ Fmplautus@aol.com ] Any Hot News? [ William Moyer ] funky vintage boxes.. [ CORROSIVE@aol.com ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:30:19 -0400 From: Curtis Bahn To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: time machines/electro harmonix! Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can scan the EH16 manual if someone wants it or wants to post it. crb >P.S. I've heard that EH is going to reissue the 16-second, but when? >Does anybody have any info on this? > >steuart > >> ---------- >> From: Liebig, Steuart A. >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 1998 9:14 AM >> To: Liebig, Steuart A.; 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' >> Subject: RE: time machines/electro harmonix! >> >> I second the request for an EH 16-second delay manual. There's a guy >> who sells copies for $1.50 a page, but that seems a little high . . . >> >> steuart >> >> ---------- >> From: CORROSIVE@aol.com >> Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 1998 4:17 AM >> To: LiebigSA@maritz.com >> Subject: time machines/electro harmonix! >> >> hey, I just found my manual for the RDS-8000...spose i could >> scan it if >> anybody cares. I also have one for the EH super replay- anybody >> out there >> have the EH 16 sec dig delay manual scanned?? that would be cool >> to check out >> >>>>gregor >> >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:46:21 -0500 From: Doug Wyatt To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Stick/Loop Gig Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 17:41 -0500 1/30/98, PMimlitsch@aol.com wrote: > Sat. Jan. 31st 8:00pm w/"Adelante" at A.J. Muggas Uncommon Grounds, S. Park > St., Merchantville, New Jersey (609) 317-0199. Adelante is: J.Jody Janetta > (Percussion/Treated Voice), Paul Mimlitsch (Chapman Stick®/Loops), Michael > Robbins (Violin/Viola). > <> Hi ... just thought I'd hop in here to note that there should be an ell (adelante.html) on the end of that URL. Have a good gig! Doug --- Doug Wyatt Sonosphere - music and music software doug@sonosphere.com http://www.sonosphere.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:34:23 -0500 From: djdowling@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Desert Island Discs Message-ID: <34D28DAF.298B@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Thompson wrote: > 1 Gone to Earth (Instrumental) - David Sylvian > Why does no-one ever mention this album? It is truly the most beautiful > looping album ever made, yet is roundly ignored, even by people who should > know better. Word up, brother. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:50:46 -0500 From: djdowling@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Spaghetti etc Message-ID: <34D29186.211A@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Random set-up questions: I have: Guitar w/ gk 2a -> gr-30 -> synth out in stereo to mixer guitar send to whammy, wah then to PSA 1 PSA stereo out to vortex Vortex stereo out to mixer 2 questions. 1. The vortex is stereo and I can't sacrifice both Aux sends on the mixer, the result is the varying level of the PSA (from patch to patch) is sometimes too high for the vortex and it distorts, and I turn it down and then up and then down... If you were me, where would you put your Vortex? 2. I want to add a volume pedal to the guitar path. If you were me, where would you put it? and would it be stereo or mono. Thanks as always, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 22:06:54 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: time machines/electro harmonix! Message-Id: <199801310306.WAA07526@marconi.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:14 AM 1/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >I second the request for an EH 16-second delay manual. There's a guy >who sells copies for $1.50 a page, but that seems a little high . . . > >steuart > LITTLE HIGH???????--that kind of nosebleed drug pusher mentality is what gives used equipment dealers the same street cred as kiddie pornographers and career politicians >P.S. I've heard that EH is going to reissue the 16-second, but when? >Does anybody have any info on this? > >steuart > sorry for those who have already heard this litany but the last word I got from EH/Sovtek was that both the Micro Synth and 16 sec delay would come out in '98 in that order funny, I was just talking to a gear junkie in WI who I bought my Vortex from--the Micro Synth was the most expensive pedal he ever bought at about $350 (even more than the PDS 8000 (pedal version of the RDS) that we were unknowingly engaged in a bidding war over on Rogue Music's auction site . . .speaking of vintage crack dealers . . . dronedornedronedroendronronronednednednednednedned on~~~~~~Tom Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:10:10 -0500 (EST) From: daniel TO: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: test Message-Id: <199801271810.NAA29655@nico.bway.net> test ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 22:36:26 EST From: KemMc@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V98 #25 Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi loopy folks, You need to check out metasynth, Its a cool computer based mega synthesizer and is as unique as "rebirth" and does some great loops, but they are synthetic. it samples too. Theres a free demo at www.uisoftware.com. its so cool I had to tell someone kemmc@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 22:43:13 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: EH/Time machines on Loopers site? Message-Id: <199801310343.WAA18174@marconi.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CRB: I don't know if Kim is prepared to add your EH scans to the Loopers Web site, but they sure would look good there . . . as would the RDS 8000 manual for those not fortunate enough to have one by the way, still waiting for the immense flow of Time Machine tips to start streaming in for editing and inclusion on the Web site--remember, it has the official blessing of the KimMeister. Also anyone know how to do this HTML thing who wants to get the Time Machine pge cranking--(my dark secret--I can't even do the MIDI thing much less the HTML hting--hell, I can't even keep my "t"s and "h"s straight when I get excited (and I'm an excitable boy) Tom At 06:30 PM 1/30/98 -0400, you wrote: >I can scan the EH16 manual if someone wants it or wants to post it. >crb >>>At 3:51 PM -0500 1/20/98, Tom Lambrecht wrote: >>Kim: >> >>I'm, assuming that if some misguided soul CENSORED compiling various boring >>technical minutiae DELETED into a FAQ that less than a handful of people will ever >>see RESRICTED >> >>that you would turn the text file into a finished Loopers Web page complete >>with TOP SECRET on a vintage >>RDS 8000 with Real-Time Audio and Puddling Video and Java and . . . . >> >>Ahem . . well if that is the case, (and if and only the rest of the Deviate >>League of Time Machinists contribute to the project), I'd have a go . SNIP >ok, you're on. Although, don't expect me to be doing all that java and >video stuff. I don't have time to do it or even learn how! The most I ever >figured out was how to make something into a basic web page, and for that I >just use the free html composer that comes with netscape. I'd encourage you >to go ahead and do that much, because it's easy and if you wait for me to >do it, it'll take forever. Or partner up with another time-machine fanatic >to help you out. > >but hey, thanks for offering to pitch in! I'll ask one of my numerous >supermodel friends to pay you a visit. > >kim > > >>>> >>>> hey, if someone wants to scan the manual, I'd be happy to put it on the >>>> website. >>>> >>>> Also, lots of great info has been posted about this box. It would be great >>>> if someone could complile it all into a FAQ for the Time Machine page. That >>>> poor lonely page sure could use someone to take care of it! >>>> >>>> Just think of the fame and self promotion it would gain you... Looper's >>>> Delight gets over 3000 hits a week. All those people looking at YOUR >>>> handywork....imagine: the job offers come streaming in....overflowing bank >>>> accounts....new home studio toys....parties with rock stars and super >>>> models....it could all be yours, just for one measly web page..... >>>> >>>> kim >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>> Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >>>> kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >>>> http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>> >>> Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:26:41 -0500 (EST) From: VanEyck To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" cc: "Liebig, Steuart A." Subject: RE: time machines/electro harmonix! Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two versions of the manual I could copy but I cannot scan them. I will mail them to whomever could put them on the page. Best, TREVOR. VanEyck@interlog.com On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Liebig, Steuart A. wrote: > I second the request for an EH 16-second delay manual. There's a guy > who sells copies for $1.50 a page, but that seems a little high . . . > > steuart > > > ---------- > > From: CORROSIVE@aol.com > > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 1998 4:17 AM > > To: LiebigSA@maritz.com > > Subject: time machines/electro harmonix! > > > > hey, I just found my manual for the RDS-8000...spose i could scan it > > if > > anybody cares. I also have one for the EH super replay- anybody out > > there > > have the EH 16 sec dig delay manual scanned?? that would be cool to > > check out > > >>>>gregor > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:31:31 -0600 From: tspauldi@mail.nash.gibson.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: NAMM Report Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980130233131.007b55e0@mail.nash.gibson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Loopish Ones- Just thought I'd give a semi-mid show hello from L.A. Kim was kind enough to stop by the both and give me my first professional demo of the EDP. I am more impressed with it and y'all than ever. Saturday at 1:00 the Loopers Delight Luncheon commences at the Oberheim booth. I am anxious to see who shows up. Anyone with a NAMM badge and a clue who wants to take a stab at demo-ing the EDP in our booth is welcome to come see me and we'll turn the klieg on ya. BTW, thanks to all of you who helped make the EDP such a success. We really would not be here without you. I'll say more when I have more to say... Oh, yeah. I met Brian Kehew of The Moog Cookbook. He is wise in the ways of science. See him at Black Market Music for all your funky gadget needs. And check out the Cookbook's new release "Ye Olde Space Band". I laughed. I cried.I grooved. I coveted my neighbor's OB-8. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 22:18:56 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: jamman 32-sec upgrade chips Message-Id: <199801310318.WAA11137@marconi.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Check Visionsoft in Carmel, CA at http://www.visionsoft.com I lost their toll-free (on hte Web site), but tech # is 408.626.2633 4 (four) 14PGPZ7 1x4 70 nS ZIP @ 7.95 totalled $38.80 (inc. $7 freight--a leeettle high for 6 ounces of IC's but at that price, I didn't even whine) Just ask for Jamman chips--they'll know exactly what you need Got this from someone in Loopers--bless you Tom At 03:30 PM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote: > > >On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 Monkici@aol.com wrote: >> could someone please e-mail me directly the phone/address for inexpensive >> upgrade memory for lex jamMan. any help is greatly appreciated... > > >rich, I don't have a jamman, but I saved this info in case I ever got one. >I don't know what the latest is, but: > >This might be old news, but I just bought the 32 second upgrade for my >JamMan > at a place called L.A. Trade (800-433-3726) for a measly $44. My friend >paid > over $100 for his 2 years ago. > > > that was dated in october. Hope it helps. > > -nick > > > > Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:40:01 -0500 From: David Myers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: TEST 29 Jan Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" TEST 29 Jan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:48:58 -0500 From: David Myers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: TEST 31 Jan Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" TEST 31 Jan Could it be that I am back on at last? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:16:51 EST From: Fmplautus@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: TEST 31 Jan Message-ID: <7c679bbe.34d378a5@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit yes you are back on ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:57:01 -0700 From: William Moyer To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Any Hot News? Message-ID: <34D3AC38.AD3A1B41@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey you insider NAMM goers, What's the news? I'm especially wondering if the Boomerang folks are there, and if they've finished the new software chip? Are there any new choices for us loopy folks? Sorry , if I sound over anxious, but I am . Thanks, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:09:58 -0700 From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) To: vargo2muse@earthlink.net Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Any Hot News? New Looper! Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain >Hey you insider NAMM goers, What's the news? I'm especially >wondering if the Boomerang folks are there, and if they've finished the >new software chip? Are there any new choices for us loopy folks? Sorry >, if I sound over anxious, but I am . >Thanks, Bill Well, I'm not at NAMM, but noticed DOD (of all people) announced a 24 second, approx. $300 rack sampler, the Dimension 12. Numerous knobs, pads for triggering either four 6 second samples or two 12 second samples. Reverse playback and lfo control of playback speed, looping, retriggering for stuttering fx, etc. Looks interesting for the Loopers Delight crowdŠ Check out Harmony Central. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 20:06:07 EST From: Dpcoffin@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Another NAMM Report Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain Of possible interest to looping guitarists (mostly): I was lucky enough to spend Thursday at NAMM, and spotted these cool new toys: Lexicon is going for guitarists in a big way, with their “Custom Shop”, complete with Harley-Davidson-esque Logo (everyone KNOWS what macho bruisers we guitarists are, right?), and the input (endorsement?) of Eddie Kramer, who was wandering around the booth as I listened. The current product line includes: 1. A revamped version of the MPX -1, called the MPX G2, which will reportedly do everything the -1 will, but has a new analog section for distortion/preamp stuff and classic stomp box emulations (they list Uni-Vibe, Cry Baby, Dyna Comp, Vox...), an effects loop so you can position your own preamp (or whatever) after some effects and before others, front-panel EQ knobs and headphone jack, intelligent pitch shifting, AND.... 20 sec. of full bandwidth delay (stereo I think). Will be about $200 more than the MPX and is coming 2nd quarter 98---their R1 Remote Foot switch will be updated to handle it, and will include a readout for the tuner that’s in the G2. Oh, it doesn’t seem to have the digital I/O--too bad! 2. The Signature 284 All tube Class A Stereo Guitar Amplifier, optimized for recording and direct use, with about 6 watts of power and compensated recording outs that come after the power section and include passive loading--2-space rack mount, single channel with a boost switch and four tone knobs. This thing was designed by John McIntyre, who used to write for Guitar Player and is based on a similar piece he designed that the Lace-Sensor folks were offering last year. It too has an effects loop (tube driven stereo) and slave outs. I heard it played both thru cabinets and direct thru monitors and it was very sweet...the demonstrator could really do the SRV thing and it sounded almost exactly the same when he switched from cab to monitors. Should be about $999, and in stores in April. 3. They’re coming out with cabs, too--I saw a little stereo thing that probably had 2 tens in it... They’re also offering a low-end dual stereo multifx called the MPX100 with Vortex-like selection knobs, MIDI, digital outs, pitch shifting, reverb, and 5.7 sec of delay. When asked about looping, my contact claimed that they’d been kicking themselves over dropping the Jamman, since they started getting big orders shortly thereafter, and would “definitely” be back in the looping game “soon.” Electro-Harmonix guy told me that the 16-sec delay was still in the works, and would be “exactly the same...” DOD guy told me that their 98 pedal with 8-sec. delays was “delayed...but coming!” tc electronic’s FireworX multifx looked extremely powerful, like a second-gen G-Force that even includes a MIDI-addressable mono synth, has programmable “insert” capabilities--like an fx loop using either the digital or analog i/o that you’re not already using, as far as I can figure--programmable feedback loops, modulatable modulators (including a kind of mini sequencer called “freeform”), and you can divide up the dsp horsepower any way you want, using multiple blocks of any algorithms that use less than 50% of the resources. The front-panel block buttons include Dynamic, Filters, Formant, Distort, Vocode, Synth, Pitch, Chorus, Delay, Reverb, Pan, and EQ...and there are ring mod, noise, and reverse delay options, altho the delay times didn’t appear to be any longer than on the G-Force (well under 2 sec). Other toys: Danelectro is back making guitars...copies of the originals that will list for $299...no Long Horns or sitars,...yet! Plus they have a vintage delay pedal (and a tuner)... The New E-Bow has an octave-up switch... Digitech’s Space Station pedal sounds good doing its reverse-delay thing, and ring modulating... Rocktron has a new floor version of their Taboo preamp/fx...the Taboo Artist... Mesa Boogie has a new 1-space non-MIDI preamp, a 3-channel job with stereo recording outs, fx loop, footswitch and graphic EQ that’ll be $699...they call it the Formula Preamp. Roland had some neat stuff (a 24-bit 8-in, 16-out version of the VS-880 with a bigger screen, a super phrase sampler that caches directly to a zip drive for about 26 minutes of stereo sampling and used 2 simultaneous Dimension Beam controllers to modulate fx or control audio....), but nothing new on the guitar front. The VG-8 is still in the catalog, tho... If you’ve got a Mac and like to make sounds with it, MetaSynth is a little wonder boy! Eric Wenger, the inventor of it (and Bryce...jeez!), gave me about a 20-min demo that was sheer amazement...cross convolving audio morphs, granular synthesis, paint-brush filter creation, all the typical fx and sound design algos, works with imported audio or generates its own sounds using up to 400 oscillators (on a 200Mhz Mac)....$250. Believe me, it was PAINful to have to leave the show before I saw more! david ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 20:40:43 EST From: Dpcoffin@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-ID: <6467023b.34d3d29e@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain sorry about the format of that post...I just pasted it in from Simple Text; dunno why it got so screwed up..here it is again: I was lucky enough to spend Thursday at NAMM, and spotted these cool new toys: Lexicon is going for guitarists in a big way, with their “Custom Shop”, complete with Harley-Davidson-esque Logo (everyone KNOWS what macho bruisers we guitarists are, right?), and the input (endorsement?) of Eddie Kramer, who was wandering around the booth as I listened. The current product line includes: 1. A revamped version of the MPX -1, called the MPX G2, which will reportedly do everything the -1 will, but has a new analog section for distortion/preamp stuff and classic stomp box emulations (they list Uni-Vibe, Cry Baby, Dyna Comp, Vox...), an effects loop so you can position your own preamp (or whatever) after some effects and before others, front-panel EQ knobs and headphone jack, intelligent pitch shifting, AND.... 20 sec. of full bandwidth delay (stereo I think). Will be about $200 more than the MPX and is coming 2nd quarter 98---their R1 Remote Foot switch will be updated to handle it, and will include a readout for the tuner that’s in the G2. Oh, it doesn’t seem to have the digital I/O--too bad! 2. The Signature 284 All tube Class A Stereo Guitar Amplifier, optimized for recording and direct use, with about 6 watts of power and compensated recording outs that come after the power section and include passive loading--2-space rack mount, single channel with a boost switch and four tone knobs. This thing was designed by John McIntyre, who used to write for Guitar Player and is based on a similar piece he designed that the Lace-Sensor folks were offering last year. It too has an effects loop (tube driven stereo) and slave outs. I heard it played both thru cabinets and direct thru monitors and it was very sweet...the demonstrator could really do the SRV thing and it sounded almost exactly the same when he switched from cab to monitors. Should be about $999, and in stores in April. 3. They’re coming out with cabs, too--I saw a little stereo thing that probably had 2 tens in it... They’re also offering a low-end dual stereo multifx called the MPX100 with Vortex-like selection knobs, MIDI, digital outs, pitch shifting, reverb, and 5.7 sec of delay. When asked about looping, my contact claimed that they’d been kicking themselves over dropping the Jamman, since they started getting big orders shortly thereafter, and would “definitely” be back in the looping game “soon.” Electro-Harmonix guy told me that the 16-sec delay was still in the works, and would be “exactly the same...” DOD guy told me that their 98 pedal with 8-sec. delays was “delayed...but coming!” tc electronic’s FireworX multifx looked extremely powerful, like a second-gen G-Force that even includes a mono synth, has programmable “insert” capabilities--like an fx loop using either the digital or analog i/o that you’re not already using, as far as I can figure--programmable feedback loops, modulatable modulators (including a kind of mini sequencer called “freeform”), and you can divide up the dsp resources anyway you want, using multiple blocks of any algorithms that use less than 50% of the resources. The front-panel block buttons include Dynamic, Filters, Formant, Distort, Vocode, Synth, Pitch, Chorus, Delay, Reverb, Pan, and EQ...and there are ring mod, noise, and reverse delay options, altho the delay times didn’t appear to be any longer than on the G-Force. Other toys: Danelectro is back making guitars...copies of the originals that will list for $299...no Long Horns or sitars,...yet! Plus they have a vintage delay pedal (and a tuner)... The New E-Bow has an octave-up switch... Digitech’s Space Station pedal sounds good doing its reverse-delay thing, and ring modulating... Rocktron has a new floor version of their Taboo preamp/fx...the Taboo Artist... Mesa Boogie has a new 1-space non-MIDI preamp, a 3-channel job with stereo recording outs, fx loop, footswitch and graphic EQ that’ll be $699...they call it the Formula Preamp. Roland had some neat stuff (a 24-bit 8-in, 16-out version of the VS-880 with a bigger screen and two fx-board slots-$3000+, a super phrase sampler that caches directly to a ip drive for about 26 minutes of stereo sampling, and used 2 simultaneous Dimension Beam controllers to modulate fx or control audio-$1600....), but nothing new on the guitar front. The VG-8 is still in the catalog, tho... If you’ve got a Mac and like to make sounds with it, MetaSynth is a little wonder boy! Eric Wenger, the inventor of it (and Bryce...jeez!), gave me about a 20-min demo of it that was sheer amazement...cross convolving audio morphs, granular synthesis, paint-brush filter creation, all the typical fx and sound design algos, works with imported audio or generates its own sounds using up to 400 oscillators (on a 200Mhz Mac)....$250. Believe me, it was PAINful to have to leave before I saw more! david ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 21:16:05 -0500 From: Reginald Hunt To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: funky vintage boxes.. Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980201021605.00663a34@tiac.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Regarding looping setups, mine doesn't really utilize any "vintage" equipment. I suppose the current inventory of my setup is: Lexicon Jamman (8 secs) Digitech RDS8000 (8 secs of course) Digitech RP-10 pedalboard Alesis Midiverb 4 DBX 266 Carvin SM162 mixer Roland GR-1 Ibanez 7 string with GK-2A Yamaha MU80 Yamaha P-50 I just put the RDS8000 back in the rack; using it in conjunction with the JamMan gets pretty bizarre. My web site has a diagram of the setup I used for the music that I posted there and in the Looper's Delight Tips & Tricks page: www.tiac.net/users/rphunt BTW, does anyone remember the Ibanez DM-1100 delay unit? Reg ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 21:48:29 -0500 (EST) From: CORROSIVE@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: funky vintage boxes.. Message-ID: <980131214828_271436457@mrin53> Yeah Reg! I agree that it's psychotronic to use a RDS-8000 in front of a jamman or plex & reloop the pitch shifted original..getting 'em in tune can be a bitch, but can get outta control in a very cool way. Sometimes I'll run the RDS through a wammy pedal first to add octaves above or below..aaaaaaaah!! --------------------------------