------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 27 Today's Topics: Re: funky vintage boxes.. [ Reginald Hunt ] Re: Re: Another NAMM Report [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ] Re: Re: Another NAMM Report [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ] Back in the Saddle Again [ David Myers ] new Markus Reuter CD [ Michael Peters ] SIMMs for Plex [ doina@juno.com (paparuda o o) ] Re: SIMMs for Plex [ David Myers ] Re: Re: Another NAMM Report [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ] Introduction and question [ Glenn Greenway ] Re: Introduction and question [ PMimlitsch@aol.com ] Re: Mackies and Loopers [ "Samuel D. Burns" ] Re: Another NAMM Report [ Marzzz@aol.com ] Different EBows was Re: Another NAMM [ Ed Drake ] Re: Re: Another NAMM Report [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ] Re: Different EBows was Re: Another [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ] Re: Re: Re: Another NAMM Report [ Texture444@aol.com ] CATACLISM!!! [ Goddess ] Location. [ mark sottilaro ] Re: box from old ages [ Jeff Duke ] Re: Any Hot News? / where was Boomer [ Kim Flint ] Re: Re: Another NAMM Report [ Kim Flint ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:18:37 -0500 From: Reginald Hunt To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: funky vintage boxes.. Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980201041837.00676fa4@tiac.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hmmmm... Actually, I use my whammy pedal before my RDS, which then goes to my JM. That way I sweep a note, then let the RDS's LFO slowly chew on it. Also, the delay time knob on the RDS lets me create some very deep bass notes I can't get any other way. All the noises this combo makes are so cool, I don't worry about being in tune. But, I gotta try putting the RDS before the pedalboard. That sounds twisted. Makes me think that if I get stereo echoplexes, I'm going to have to find another RDS as well. Oh God. BTW, it appears that the Dimension 12 also has an LFO. Has anyone tried this unit out yet? Reg At 09:48 PM 1/31/98 -0500, you wrote: >Yeah Reg! I agree that it's psychotronic to use a RDS-8000 in front of a >jamman or plex & reloop the pitch shifted original..getting 'em in tune can >be a bitch, but can get outta control in a very cool way. Sometimes I'll run >the RDS through a wammy pedal first to add octaves above or >below..aaaaaaaah!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 00:13:24 EST From: Dpcoffin@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit well...I give up. Sorry about the nospaces and noreturns--they USED to be there! dpc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 00:15:13 EST From: Dpcoffin@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/31/98 8:43:08 PM, I wrote: > >Roland had some neat stuff (a 24-bit 8-in, 16-out version of the VS-880 with a >bigger screen and two fx-board slots-$3000+, a super phrase sampler that >caches directly to a ip drive for about 26 minutes of stereo sampling, and >used 2 simultaneous Dimension Beam controllers to modulate fx or control >audio-$1600....), That's a ZIP drive, and it's 64 min.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 03:06:37 -0500 From: David Myers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Back in the Saddle Again Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cripes, annihilist wouldn't let me in since Dec. 13th; my ISP just figured out how to fix the problem, whatever it was. Anyway, hope no one will mind my playing catchup a bit, posting about some older stuff, etc. What was really curious is that the day I was cut off was when I posted the following: ------------------------------------------ Robert at the Bottom Line Saturday night; saw the early show. I don't think even the people at TC Electronic or Eventide would have been pleased--this is all that can be done with 20 grand worth of gear? I kept wanting to shout, "OK, Bob, now HIT IT!". (Wouldn't have been out of place: LOTS of people were shouting.) It was like he was waiting for the right moment to break loose, but never did and never intended to--or didn't know how. I well realize that when you make a goof in a looping situation you are in deep trouble, but his timidity was appalling; 5 minutes of what we heard would have been impressive, but he more or less just let it limp along for two hours. I love everything Crimson has done, and the "Let The Power Fall"-type Frippertronics are kind of minimalist masterpieces, but listen to what somebody like Paul Dresher did on "Liquid and Stellar Music" many years ago and you begin to see that Fripp really doesn't have much to offer. Nor do I sense that he is even aware of Dresher, Terry Riley, etc.--or perhaps any work outside rock or the rock fringe. It seems that he believes he's doing something unprecedented. What he's doing that IS different is presenting a rather inept sort of ambient music to crowds which are largely unfamiliar with even Eno's "Discreet Music" (which this show was uncannily reminicent of), and pissing them off. I think 90% of this crowd expected "Red", and if I were one of them I'd be screaming, too. But I think this is part of what Robert wants to do: mess with people. He will call it "inviting them to expand their horizons" or some such thing, but it seems to me that it's mostly just self-indulgence. Yeah, the inevitable flashbulb went off--and so did Bob. He returned, but without the promised "Q & A" period afterward. I would have asked, "can we go now?". A technical speculation. Since all Fripp's sounds are synthesized (on this occasion he played two short phrases which just MIGHT have been actual guitar sounds), couldn't one forego the pricy TC audio looping and just feed MIDI info from the guitar into a looping sequencer? Then even more radical sound alterations would of course be possible (not to mention structural gymnastics), though the gee-whiz factor involved with a 6-foot-high rack of gear would be lost.... -------------------------------------------- BTW, I wanted to put in my .02 regarding a desert island looper's list: 1) Paul Dresher "Liquid and Stellar Music" 2) Terry Riley "A Rainbow in Curved Air" or "Descending Moonshine Dervishes" 3) Robert's "Let The Power Fall" or "Evening Star" w/ Eno 4) David Torn "Tripping Over God" (anyone have a copy of "What Means Solid" they'd like to sell?) 5) I agree that Sylvian's "Gone to Earth" is full of great looping-mostly Robert's doing, I think.... Also, I must say that you guys who can tolerate "Door X" must have a screw loose. What the hell was David thinking? Did you ever hear the albums on which even Herbie Hancock decided to sing? Please! -------------------------------------------- More BTW: I just ordered more RAM to max out my Echoplex and discovered an interesting phenomenon. Several of the memory companies asked me, "what is it for?", and in one case I told them. They said, we sell so-and-so for samplers and music equipment--bottom line, the very same 30-pin SIMMs as for a Mac SE30, etc., but a jacked-up price. Reason? I dunno--maybe they've had music people return RAM more often? Anyway, if you get this question concerning 30 pin SIMMs, just tell 'em it's for a Mac Classic or something. A place called Mohawk Memory sold me 4 meg SIMMs for $14 each. -David Myers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 07:50:44 -0500 From: Michael Peters To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: new Markus Reuter CD Message-ID: <199802010751_MC2-3172-865B@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline If you enjoy listening to ambient music in the tradition of Eno, Sylvian, or Fripp, you will love Markus Reuter's first solo CD 'Taster'. (Markus is one of the few masters and teachers of the 8-string Warr Guitar. He is also known for his complex compositions and virtuoso playing with the Europa String Choir.) 'Taster' contains seven long ambient pieces recorded at a live concert. Markus played his Warr Guitar, using a guitar synthesizer and two unsynchronized loop delays for a technique he calls 'orchestral soundscaping'. The result is a collection of utterly fascinating atmospheres - crystal-clear minimalism, vast, slow spaces, completely void of new-age pathos, but nonetheless extremely evocative and full of this rare thing that is so difficult to achieve or describe - magic. Check out Markus' homepage at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/markus.htm -Michael Peters ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 10:04:16 -0500 From: David White To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-Id: <98Feb1.100726est.18818@thicket.arbortext.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dpcoffin@aol.com wrote: > [snip] > > The New E-Bow has an octave-up switch... > What? E-Bows set up a magnetic field which excites the string. It's the string length and taughtness that controls the pitch not the magnetic field. Or am I missing something? dAve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 11:28:19 EST From: doina@juno.com (paparuda o o) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: SIMMs for Plex Message-ID: <19980201.112658.4951.0.DOINA@juno.com> David Myers wrote: << ...A place called Mohawk Memory sold me 4 meg SIMMs for $14 each.>> Where is "Mohawk Memory"? thanks !, Paparuda _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 11:58:32 -0500 From: David Myers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: SIMMs for Plex Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >David Myers wrote: ><< ...A place called Mohawk Memory sold me 4 meg >SIMMs for $14 each.>> > > >Where is "Mohawk Memory"? >thanks !, Paparuda > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] www.mohawkmem.com or 1 (800) 986-6429. David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 14:00:49 EST From: Dpcoffin@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-ID: <1503899.34d4c664@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/1/98 10:11:10 AM, dAve wrote: >> The New E-Bow has an octave-up switch... >> > >What? E-Bows set up a magnetic field which excites the string. It's the string >length and taughtness that controls the pitch not the magnetic field. Or am I >missing something? Well, I guess you're missing a copy of Heet Sound's "Next Generation EBow" flyer and the riveting experience of hearing the new EBow in person....and, OK, they call it "a gruesome harmonic position just a switch away," but essentially it's an octave-up switch. You can take it up with them at 213-687-9946 and hear a demo at 213-625-3269. dpc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 15:17:07 -0500 From: Glenn Greenway To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Introduction and question Message-ID: <34D4D843.737C@isrv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone: I happened on to this list via a jamman link and am so happy to have found you. I thought I was a lone loopist in the wilderness but am pleased to have discoved otherwise. I play guitar and started looping with an old Digitech digital delay stompbox using it as a pumped up metronome. Later I got a Jamman and began to discover the real world of looping. Now I'm just about to take the Jamman out and begin gigging solo, setting up loops and guitaring ontop. However, I've got a question and this seems like the perfect place to ask: I don't know what kinda of mixer to buy. Right now I've got just the Jamman but would like to add another looper and a multieffects unit in the near future. However I'm really having a hard time understanding what I need in terms of signal routing. I think I need at least three prefader effect sends; Can auxillary sends be used for this? What the heck is a four bus mixer anyway? Or Alt 3/4? I guess I'm pretty technically challenged but really have to figure this out. Does anyone care to make a recomendation? I'll be plugging a microphone and a couple of guitar signals into the front. It's got to be small, inexpensive, and suitable for gigging. Thanks for taking the time to read this overlong query and for any advice anyone may offer. Nice meeting everyone. I'll be around. GLenn Greenway ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 16:03:21 EST From: PMimlitsch@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Introduction and question Message-ID: <3e23a6b9.34d4e31b@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/1/98 3:19:50 PM, you wrote: <> Can't beat the Mackie1202vlz. My current loop rac set up is 2 Jmen (1-32sec./1 8sec.), 1 rds 8000 Time Machine, 1 Vortex, and 1 Mackie 1202vlz. The Mackie handles all the signal permutations that I need (or can think of anyway). - Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 16:59:54 -0500 From: "Samuel D. Burns" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Mackies and Loopers Message-ID: <34D4F059.B01A55D3@mail.clt.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree...I also use this Mackie...amazing sound quality improvement over other mixers...I did not realize what a difference it would make. I use it with JamMan, K2000s, DJ70, Barrett electronic violin, EMU Ultra Proteus, Pinnacle, and EMU ESI 32...for minimalist/foundsound/looping compositions. Incidentally, I was losing at Scrabble a few weeks ago when my opponent said that "loopers" was a word. I challenged, and lost. Check the dictionary...it may surprise you what a "looper" is according to Webster. I'lloopatyoulaterlaterlater PMimlitsch@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/1/98 3:19:50 PM, you wrote: > > < question and this seems like the perfect place to ask: I don't know what > kinda of mixer to buy.>> > > Can't beat the Mackie1202vlz. My current loop rac set up is 2 Jmen > (1-32sec./1 8sec.), 1 rds 8000 Time Machine, 1 Vortex, and 1 Mackie 1202vlz. > The Mackie handles all the signal permutations that I need (or can think of > anyway). - Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:03:44 -0500 (EST) From: VanEyck To: usonian@bellsouth.net cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Mackies and Loopers Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On a slightly different note, does anyone have an opinion RE Soundcraft boards vs. Mackie? Thanks, TREVOR. > I agree...I also use this Mackie...amazing sound quality improvement over other > mixers...I did not realize what a difference it would make. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:53:11 EST From: Marzzz@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-ID: <5c02b82.34d53519@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/1/98 1:03:15 PM, Dpcoffin wrote: >Well, I guess you're missing a copy of Heet Sound's "Next Generation EBow" >flyer and the riveting experience of hearing the new EBow in person....and, >OK, they call it "a gruesome harmonic position just a switch away," but >essentially it's an octave-up switch. You can take it up with them at >213-687-9946 and hear a demo at 213-625-3269. Ok, so what are the differences between the old EBow and the new one? I am just about to order one, does the new one sound different? I have heard the original EBows had a more mellow tone, the current ones more "harsh" or overdriven. Please elaborate!!! Marshall ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 22:53:39 -0500 From: Ed Drake To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Different EBows was Re: Another NAMM Report Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Ok, so what are the differences between the old EBow and the new one? I am >just about to order one, does the new one sound different? I have heard the >original EBows had a more mellow tone, the current ones more "harsh" or >overdriven. Please elaborate!!! > >Marshall As far as I know there are 3 previous generations of EBow, not including this new "octave up"one, which are distinguishable by physical characteristics as well as sonic ones. The original ones were the chrome ones, which I've never tried but I hear were the mellowest in drive and weakest in sensitivity (starting the string vibrating). These are very hard to find and I don't have any idea what the price would be if you did. The 2nd generation EBows (my first) were distinguished by being made of black plastic with a red EBow logo. These had more drive and a higher sensitivity. The most recently available EBow (3rd gen) are also black plastic but with a white logo on the outside. These have about the same drive as the red EBows but have even more sensitivity. I have a red and a white model. This sensitivity difference between the two is noticeable, as I use one a lot with an acoustic electric steel string guitar, and the white one starts the string vibrating much more quickly than the red without having to hammer the left hand notes down as hard. I don't know if this new "octave up" one is even available yet, as I know often at NAMM, companies demo new gear and take orders for it but you don't actually see it for sale for a while. Does any one know when it will be available and what the price will be and are there any other differences other than the "octave up"? Ed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:45:30 EST From: Dpcoffin@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-ID: <341fe98e.34d54f6c@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/1/98 9:57:37 PM, you wrote: > I have heard the >original EBows had a more mellow tone, the current ones more "harsh" or >overdriven. Please elaborate!!! Sorry, Marshall. I can't say...the guy was only showing the new one (sounded great to me), but their lit does say the new one has "improved" tone in normal mode, a sure sign that fans of the old one will complain! The new one is NOT shipping yet apparently (the flier said "Don't buy now---wait!), so I guess you could still get the old model wherever it was in stock...they're cheap--get two! dpc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:59:34 EST From: Dpcoffin@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Different EBows was Re: Another NAMM Report Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/1/98 10:46:45 PM, Ed wrote: >Does any one know when it will be >available and what the price will be and are there any other differences >other than the "octave up"? Here's a direct quote from the Heet NAMM flier: "Next generation EBow--Now you have two settings (that's twice as many as before): an improved regular sound and a gruesome harmonic position just a switch away. The harmonic bow has been enjoyed by a few select bozos over the last few years and they unanimously proclaim it to be way cool and worth the money (they got them free). Now, everybody can get it in a slick new package [white]. Please don't run out and buy one, though. We need some time to catch up. Have a heart- please delay your EBow purchase. DON'T BUY EBOWS----In summary, there's a new EBow but you can't have it yet, Meanwhile. feel free to visit our stale unchanging web site [www.ebow.com]." You can e-mail 'em at info@ebow.com phone 213-625-1944, fax 213-625-1944, demo 213-625-3269 dpc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:53:57 EST From: Texture444@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit me, i've got an "octave" ebow; got it last february, kinda beta: no switch: all octave: purty cool, yo..... dt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 00:33:14 -0500 (EST) From: Goddess To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: CATACLISM!!! Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, unfortunately, I won't be ablt to reply to anyone for a few days as I've had a major system catastrophy! I'm writing this on a unix shell but I won't be doing that this week at all as it's annoyingly slow to deal with. I must reinstall win95 so I'll let you all know when I'm back... thanks, smiles, Corynne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 00:48:57 -0500 From: mark sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Location. Message-ID: <34D55E4A.C92AACD9@mailbox.syr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Loopers. Every once and a while I wonder if I'm near anyone on this list. Do you think we could all give an email with a location to the list? That way we could all get an idea of what kind of dispersion there is among us. I'm living in Syracuse NY at the moment. Later, Mark Sottilaro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 01:04:18 -0500 From: mark sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: CATACLISM!!! Message-ID: <34D561E3.3F5DEBFB@mailbox.syr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good news for all you poor soles that have to deal with Bills excuse for an operating system: Later this Febuary the Macintosh operating system vers. 9 will be available for Power PC machines as well as Pentiums. Good luck with the Win95 installation, I've been struggeling with my roommates PC for the last 2 weeks and ever since she tried to install some internet software she can't get Windows 95 to run in anything but a "safe mode" (translation: almost nothing works) Funny, when I got internet access, I installed some software, plugged in some numbers and started surfing... I will give my little Mac a kiss before I put it to bed tonight. Good luck. Corynne. We're praying for ya. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 10:59:30 From: "Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D." To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980202105930.301fc8f0@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> The New E-Bow has an octave-up switch... >>What? E-Bows set up a magnetic field which excites the string. It's the >string >>length and taughtness that controls the pitch not the magnetic field. Or am I >>missing something? That's what I used to think, but I gather I too was missing something... someone around here dirrected their EBow and found both sensor and exciter coils, so the EBow principle is not dissimilar to the way a Frenandez Sustainer works - picks up magnetic field, generates much bigger version of same. To those with whom I discussed building a sustainer system - I've built the trian cct, and am waiting to get the cash together to get the pickup built.... Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 10:53:25 +0000 From: Malhomme Olivier To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: box from old ages Message-ID: <34D5A5A3.33BA@infobiogen.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit besides old boss en ibanez stomboxes, I have a Mu-Tron bi-phase and a E-H microsynthesizer... Olivier Malhomme ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 05:10:10 -0500 From: Jeff Duke To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Location. Message-ID: <34D59B82.443DFE08@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm in Conyers,Georgia,ya'll.And I sure 'nuff want that ebow.drool. Jeff mark sottilaro wrote: > Hey Loopers. > > Every once and a while I wonder if I'm near anyone on this list. Do you think > we could all give an email with a location to the list? That way we could all > get an idea of what kind of dispersion there is among us. > > I'm living in Syracuse NY at the moment. > > Later, > > Mark Sottilaro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 05:14:42 -0500 From: Jeff Duke To: malhomme@infobiogen.fr CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: box from old ages Message-ID: <34D59C92.45F42D3D@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey ya'll,I just got a super-fuzz from unicord and a Kay wahwah for a buck ea. at a yard sale and they work.what a deal! jeff Malhomme Olivier wrote: > besides old boss en ibanez stomboxes, I have a Mu-Tron bi-phase and a > E-H microsynthesizer... > > Olivier Malhomme ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 01:03:03 -0800 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Any Hot News? / where was Boomerang? Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:57 PM -0700 1/31/98, William Moyer wrote: >Hey you insider NAMM goers, What's the news? I'm especially >wondering if the Boomerang folks are there, and if they've finished the >new software chip? Are there any new choices for us loopy folks? Sorry >, if I sound over anxious, but I am . >Thanks, Bill Well, I didn't see Boomerang at the show. I was all over it, and they're not in the directory, so presumably they weren't there. Motley? Where were you? I didn't see them last year, either. Could be they don't get enough out of it to be worth the cost. It cost me a small fortune just to be *present* at this show (among the reasons why I'm peeved that it was held in the downtown LA convention center, where there are hardly any hotel rooms....). Exhibiting ain't cheap..... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 01:20:49 -0800 From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Another NAMM Report Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 2:00 PM -0500 2/1/98, Dpcoffin@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 2/1/98 10:11:10 AM, dAve wrote: > >>> The New E-Bow has an octave-up switch... >>> >> >>What? E-Bows set up a magnetic field which excites the string. It's the >string >>length and taughtness that controls the pitch not the magnetic field. Or am I >>missing something? I would guess it's like the the Fernandes Sustainer, which has an octave switch. (and a higher harmonics switch, which is my favorite). In the octave position, the magnetic field from the sustainer thing is oscillating an octave up from the fundamental of the string. (or emphasizing that frequency, anyway.) This causes the positive feedback loop to happen with the 2nd harmonic oscillation on the string instead of the fundamental, and that's what you hear sustaining. Like when you pluck a string and tap it at the 12th fret to get the harmonic. Basically you cause the fundamentaly to die out fast, leaving the 2nd harmonic. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------------------------