------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 3 Today's Topics: Re: Gravikords, Whirlies, & Pyrophon [ Fmplautus ] Looping near London/New Year listeni [ David.Orton@mail.bl.uk (David Orton ] Re: What's that burning smell... [ "Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D." ------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 3 Today's Topics: Re: Gravikords, Whirlies, & Pyrophon [ Fmplautus < ] Looping near London/New Year listeni [ David.Orton@mail.bl.uk (David Orton ] Re: What's that burning smell... [ "Michael P. Hughes, Ph.D." < ] RE: What's that burning smell... [ Andrew < ] Re: Jammies and Vortices FS [ "T.W. Hartnett" < ] Re:New Year listening [ Tom Lambrecht < ] RE: New Year listening [ Michael Peters < ] RE: Glitterbug [ spat@visi.com ] Looping in Minnesota Jan. 15,16,17 ( [ ANET < ] newENO [ Dan Chapman < ] Re: newENO [ Jason Secord < ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:21:45 EST From: Fmplautus < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Gravikords, Whirlies, & Pyrophones Message-ID: <<3aefce64.34b5d00a@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Paolo...great post about the instruments! One of our friends has a collection of waterphones and WE WANT THEM ALL! In the same spirit, the LoOpDoctOrs, while doing ethnographic research in northern Italy, came upon a furniture/lifestyle kinda place in Milan and wandered in with their accompanying eight-year-old co-expeditionarys. Both of these tykes have sampled, looped and mangled with the Doctors live in front of non-napping audiences, and are well versed in the kind of maniac and off- kilter instrumentation it takes to win a place in the known looping universe. One of them insisted that a copper napkin ring with a kind of twisted macaroni ring would be just the ticket for infusing the next willing audience with healing sounds. We brought the napkin ring back to these domestic shores. Frankly, we didn't look too excitedly at another triangle thingy, since we thought Ricki Lee Jones and her record producers milked just about every triangle sound ever created in the early seventies. But the Doctors were wrong. This thing does a high frequency karinnnng alright, but what's very strange is that the thickness and weight of the copper (all designed in the service of holding a napkin, remember), also makes it twist at the end of a suspending string. When it does this while being rapped by a hard rubber mallet, the most incredible whirring sound comes out, sort of like whirling a plastic tube, but as one of the Doc's comments, also like a pumping Hammond B3 about to jolt prodigious numbers of smoking internal vaccuum tubes. In short it is that rare sound at once earthy and ethereal that makes one sit up, perk up one's ears, and then stetch like an alert, waking dog who's just been buzzed by sweet but extreme high frequency. Even with advancing age, the Doctors appreciate the refreshing and renewing waters of creativity poured forth from those younger with superior hearing at high frequencies and a willingness to take napkin rings seriously as makers of music. In short, just because you're eating with it doesn't mean you can't hear into it too. Best, the LoOpDoctOrs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:26:08 +0000 From: David.Orton@mail.bl.uk (David Orton) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Looping near London/New Year listening Message-ID: <<000C0F34.001424@mail.bl.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Description: cc:Mail note part A brief plug for my gig next Friday, 16th Jan, when I'll be playing at the Croydon ClockTower's Balcony Bar between 7&8 pm, prior to the evening's main performance by the very wonderful Eduardo Niebla guitar duo - further details from < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: What's that burning smell... Message-Id: <<3.0.1.16.19980109113431.2fd73946@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tom enthused: >After several less than accurate guesses about the actual shipment dates of >e-prom upgrades, we humbly announce that we began shipping yesterday. Jeez, this is so exciting I want to order one, just to take part! :) :) Michael PS Will it fit in my JamMan? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:47:18 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Jammies and Vortices FS Message-Id: <<199801091347.IAA03258@mcfeely.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Another Vortex (from rec.mus.synth): $250 OBO or trade ( claimed low usage and all accessories and docs) e-him at legion@voicenet.com he has an interesting Web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~legion--sounds like our kind of boy! Speaking of slimy East Coast purveyors of flesh and "vintage" gear, Rogue Music has another Jamman (they exclaim, "their hottest auction items") on their auction site--it was at $310 this AM and climbing drone on~~~Tom Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:01:06 -0600 From: Tom Spaulding < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: What's that burning smell... Message-Id: <<98Jan9.075910cst.26885@gateway.gibson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Michael enth-oozed- >PS Will it fit in my JamMan? No, but your JamMan will make an excellent partner to your new EDP! ;) Thomas G. Spaulding, Ed.p. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:14:34 -0000 From: Andrew < To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" < Subject: RE: What's that burning smell... Message-ID: <<01BD1D11.4BDB8890.andrew@bocs.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aha ! A well executed entrapment. Tom has clearly admitted EDP's will be available any minute in the UK -----Original Message----- From: Tom Spaulding [SMTP:tspauldi@gibson.com] Sent: 09 January 1998 14:01 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: What's that burning smell... Michael enth-oozed- >PS Will it fit in my JamMan? No, but your JamMan will make an excellent partner to your new EDP! ;) Thomas G. Spaulding, Ed.p. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 98 09:15:40 -0000 From: "T.W. Hartnett" < To: "Looper's Delight" < Subject: Re: Jammies and Vortices FS Message-Id: <<199801091515.HAA27238@scv2.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >$250 OBO or trade ( claimed low usage and all accessories and docs) >e-him at legion@voicenet.com > > >he has an interesting Web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~legion--sounds >like our kind of boy! > > >Speaking of slimy East Coast purveyors of flesh and "vintage" gear, Rogue >Music has another Jamman (they exclaim, "their hottest auction items") on >their auction site--it was at $310 this AM and climbing I've started keeping track of the prices of the discontinued baby Lex's, so if you happen across the final price for that auctioned Vortex, please let me know. Travis Hartnett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:34:45 -0600 From: Tom Spaulding < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: What's that burning smell... Message-Id: <<98Jan9.093257cst.26885@gateway.gibson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yikes! I gotta be more careful with these attempts at clever witticisms! CE testing (whatever happened to Lend/Lease?) is happening as we speak. Or you could emigrate. :) p.s. Our GM is from Luton, England, UK. Does that count for anything? Thomas G. Spaulding, Esq., Ed.p., USA At 09:14 AM 1/9/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Aha ! A well executed entrapment. Tom has clearly admitted EDP's will be available any minute in the UK > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Spaulding [SMTP:tspauldi@gibson.com] >Sent: 09 January 1998 14:01 >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: What's that burning smell... > >Michael enth-oozed- > >>PS Will it fit in my JamMan? > >No, but your JamMan will make an excellent partner to your new EDP! ;) > >Thomas G. Spaulding, Ed.p. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:11:30 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:New Year listening Message-Id: <<199801091611.LAA11757@cliff.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain Still haven't got that top 10 list together, but this post was a button-pusher . . . I'm spinning the following alot so far in '98: John Zorn "New Traditions in East Asian Bar Bands" (Tzadik, 1997)--don't know much about these compositions which were all apparently recorded in the late '80's early '90s, but they are fascinating--CD has beautiful artwork liner notes with translations that look like they were shrunk from LP jacket size to CD liner size as the text is MINISCULE and unreadable without contrast enhancement and a jeweller's loupe --stories with female narration accompanied by: first one, "Hue Die" features Bill Frisell and Fred Frith on guitars second, "Hwang VChin-EE" has Joey Barron and Samm Bennett on drums third, "Que Tran" has Anthony Coleman and Wayne Horvitz on keyboards need I say MORE . . . Golden Palaminos "Dead Inside" (Restless, 1996)-- not for the faint of heart or Pollyannish, the black text of Nicole Blackman with very nice ambience provided by the Anton Fier stable (Skopelitis, Laswell and Knox Chandler) it's really scary to know that there is another human on the planet who thinks these things, much less will commit them to media. Contraindicated if you are in even a hint of a foul mood, before working with power tools or after 10:30 PM and old faves rediscovered: Latin Playboys (Slash 1994) put a couple of Los Lobos in an old warehouse studio with Tchad Blake and Mitchell Froom and a multi-track cassette and you have lo-fi inspiration for home studio people everywhere--very gritty disc Hukwe Zawose "Chibite" (Realworld 1996)--Hukwe and his son Charles--a Tanzanian cooker with thumb pianos, traditional (read "primitive" . . .HAH!) flutes, violins and incredible vocals including the first African "throat-singing" I've ever heard--phenomenal disc Gallon Drunk "Tonight . . .the Singles Bar" (Ryko) collection of their scarce singles--a rollickng Phil Spector-meets-Jesus and Mary Chain with maracas and organ got my copy out of the Best Buy cutout closeout for $0.49 . . .pearls before swine John Cale "Seducing Down The Door" (Rhino 1994)--two disc box with all the goodies from the ethereal Paris 1919 period to the fencing mask-wearing menace period (my fave--"Pablo Picasso", "Fear (is a man's best friend)" "Leaving It Up to You") Eno/Jah Wobble "Spinner" (Gyroscope 1995)--another mystery (soundtrack for "Glitterbug"--anybody enlighten me on this?) I haven't liked alot of Eno's recent output, but this has some nice stuff enuf' droning on already Tom drone on~~~~~Tom At 09:26 AM 1/9/98 +0000, you wrote: > A brief plug for my gig next Friday, 16th Jan, when I'll be playing at > the Croydon ClockTower's Balcony Bar between 7&8 pm, prior to the > evening's main performance by the very wonderful Eduardo Niebla guitar > duo - further details from < > Also, a recommendation for a relatively new album out on ECM (possibly > Europe only so far), Nils Petter Molvær's "Khmer", which the label > describes as featuring: > > "Massive beats and throbbing grooves [which] underpin the > Norwegian trumpeter's fiery solos in a project that forms a > bridge between ECM's improvised soundscapes and the brave new > world of trip-hop, drum'n'bass, ambient/illbient, techno, > industrial, electronica and samples." > > I'm not sure if I'd've bought it if I'd read that first(!) - its a > factual description in many respects (most of those elements are > present in varying levels of prominence) - but reads like a slightly > desperate attempt to force together "everything that's new". The music > itself touches on areas similar in parts to Jon Hassell, Mark Isham > and possibly Ben Neill (3 other trumpet players - aren't I > imaginative), and I really rather like it. Not a unique stylistic > break-through or anything, but worth investigating. > > Also: I finally got hold of the [`Guitar artistry of...'] Bill Frisell > video, which is fine, although apparently a painful experience for > Bill himself; and in Tower's New Year Sale, I found a David Tronzo > Trio live-in-Japan-for-German-radio (or something like that) CD, which > has hints of looping, and is a cracking good listen too. > > Thats enough for now > > David > > > > > Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:23:10 -0500 From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) To: 'Loopers Delight' < Subject: Vortex Algorithms & EDP Message-ID: <<01BD1CF9.5B1CF220@mark.asisoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Kim, What would it take to program Vortex-like algorithms in a future software upgrade for the EDP? Just a thought . . . Thanks, Mark Kata Mark@asisoftware.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:25:42 -0800 From: Kim Flint < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Vortex Algorithms & EDP Message-Id: < Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Hey Kim, > >What would it take to program Vortex-like algorithms in a future software >upgrade for the EDP? > >Just a thought . . . It would take new hardware, since the Echoplex doesn't have much dsp power. It's optimized for intensive memory, data, and interface control, which is why it does it's looping thing so well. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:36:49 -0500 From: Michael Peters < To: "'INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" < Subject: RE: New Year listening Message-ID: <<199801091437_MC2-2EB5-DC42@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >Tom Lambrecht asked, Eno/Jah Wobble "Spinner" (Gyroscope 1995)-- another mystery (soundtrack for "Glitterbug"--anybody enlighten me on this?) no mystery. Glitterbug is a video by Eno's friend and filmmaker Derek Jarman who died last year. It is basically a compilation of Jarman's early and private super-8 films. Eno wrote the music for the video. If you want to hear Eno pure, buy the video: Glitterbug - The Director's Cut, published by 'Dangerous To Know' 1994, DTK 011 (probably available only in the UK) Spinner is Jah Wobble's remix of Eno's soundtrack. I seem to remember that Eno's 1995 diary (which was published as a book) contains Eno's comments on that work. I like the soundtrack better than Spinner, but that is a matter of taste of course. ___________ Michael Peters http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters HOP - Fractals in Motion ..."the only screen saver you'll ever want" http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:21:35 -0600 From: "Ott, John" < To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" < Subject: RE: Glitterbug Message-ID: < As I remember Eno thought the Glitterbug soundtrack "did not work" outside the context of the film. And choose not to release it in that form. So he ask Wobble to remix it and add some parts. Some parts are unchanged from the film, others are remixed, some have added material. Spinner is more Wobble's vision of the work than Eno's. I have only spinner and not the glitterbug soundtrack. It's OK not ENO's best or most representative work. Actually Nerve Net is the last Eno work that I've listened to much. (other than his work with Bowie and James) later John > ---------- > From: Michael Peters[SMTP:MPeters@compuserve.com] > Sent: Friday, January 09, 1998 2:54 PM > To: John_Ott@ATK.COM > Subject: RE: New Year listening > > >Tom Lambrecht asked, > > Eno/Jah Wobble "Spinner" (Gyroscope 1995)-- > another mystery (soundtrack for > "Glitterbug"--anybody enlighten me on this?) > > no mystery. Glitterbug is a video by Eno's friend and filmmaker Derek > Jarman who died last year. It is basically a compilation of Jarman's > early > and private super-8 films. Eno wrote the music for the video. If you > want > to hear Eno pure, buy the video: > > Glitterbug - The Director's Cut, published by 'Dangerous To Know' > 1994, DTK > 011 (probably available only in the UK) > > Spinner is Jah Wobble's remix of Eno's soundtrack. I seem to remember > that > Eno's 1995 diary (which was published as a book) contains Eno's > comments on > that work. > > I like the soundtrack better than Spinner, but that is a matter of > taste of > course. > > ___________ > Michael Peters > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters > HOP - Fractals in Motion ..."the only screen saver you'll ever want" > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 20:48:28 -0600 From: spat@visi.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Glitterbug Message-Id: <<1.5.4.32.19980110024828.006a2dd0@visi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:21 PM 1/9/98 -0600, John wrote: >As I remember Eno thought the Glitterbug soundtrack "did not work" >outside the context of the film. And choose not to release it in that >form. A few of those Glitterbug tracks exist in original form, available on a Gyroscope sampler CD from a couple years ago. P.S..... I'll swap it for something interesting..... I also have an extra copy of "Spinner".... capitalist mode off, Steve < ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 23:10:18 EST From: ANET < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Looping in Minnesota Jan. 15,16,17 (Acoustic Guitar) Message-ID: < Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit John Peters will be looping in Minnesota. Rochester's Redwood Room at the Broadstreet cafe Jan. 15,16,17. Come on down and enjoy! Web page forthcoming with sound clips. 3rd Cd. Project is under way, send e-mail to anet@aol.com if you are interested. Cassettes should be mailed to John Peters 15 9th ave. Nw. Kasson, Minnesota, 55944. All recordings returned with SASE. (Self Addressed and Stamped Envelops) Have a good one!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:16:46 -0700 From: Dan Chapman < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: newENO Message-Id: < Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi All, I just wanted to ask if anyone here has heard the new Eno cd (1997)? The last one I bought was Nerve Net. It seems recent to me but it's dated 1992. Just curious. Thanks Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 13:39:33 -0500 From: Jason Secord < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: newENO Message-ID: <<34B7C065.B923D558@mediaone.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EA91328AE5A9F12D8E3D5334" Dan Chapman wrote: left Hi All, I just wanted to ask if anyone here has heard the new Eno cd (1997)? The last one I bought was Nerve Net. It seems recent to me but it's dated 1992. Just curious. Thanks Dan Eno does have a new cd out... unfortunately at the moment I can't pin the name down... but I've heard it, and I like it. Sounds a bit like Spinner, etc... Little bit more on the techno side of things... Sorry for the lack of solid and substantial info.... but that's what I'm good for (apparently). You may try asking questions at WDET's web site, which is national public radio in DETROIT. They love talkin about how friendly they are there and I know that Eno's new cd has gotten airplay there. I think there address is www.wdet.com , but, as before, I'm not certain on this... sorry I just woke up. Good luck! J. Secord innerspace ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:00:09 PST From: "Joseph Buck" < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: newENO Message-ID: <<19980110200010.19005.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Hola- Well Eno has actually released four albums in 1997. The only major release was called "the Drop" and it was put out on All Saints records. It is in the category of what he calls "unwelcome jazz" as in jazz nobody asked for. Pretty different. The next was two limited edition releases tied to his installation at the white cube gallery in the uk. the first was limited to about 500 or so and was called (appropriately) Music For White Cube. Some Eno fans balked as the gallery raised the price of it from 20 to 50 pounds as it became more scarce ala an art print. To my ears it sounds very similar to Thomas Koner transcendent piece "Nuuk." The other tied to this show was a very limited edition (25) which were unique CD-R's of a Koan generative piece. Finally during his sabbatical in Russia he did an installation at the marble palace and released a cd called "Lightness." It was only sold at the exhibition, and probably in the range of 500 editions. For more information, check out the *definative* site on Eno- EnoWeb currently curated by the amazingly compassionate and informative Tom "G" Boon. http://www.hyperreal.org/music/artists/brian_eno/ selam, Joseph Buck ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 15:28:34 -0500 From: Jonathan Brainin < To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" < Subject: RE: newENO Message-ID: <<01BD1DDC.6B322160@jbrainin@interactive.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's called "The Drop" and like lots of Eno's ambient recordings you'll either love it or hate it. Jonathan Brainin jbrainin@interactive.net On Saturday, January 10, 1998 12:17 PM, Dan Chapman [SMTP:dchapman@seiniger.com] wrote: > Hi All, > > I just wanted to ask if anyone here has heard the new Eno cd (1997)? The > last one I bought was Nerve Net. It seems recent to me but it's dated > 1992. > > Just curious. > > Thanks > > Dan > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 02:11:32 EST From: Salazzar2 < To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Borders in Mays Landing Message-ID: <<58d7094.34b870a4@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Greetings all.... Just a quick note to let all interested parties know that "Adelante" was incredible. Tonight was the first leg of the New Jersey shows and as far as I am concerned, Paul and Jodi will see my face at everyone(and probably get sick of me!). Unfortunately, I arrived late, but I was able to catch about an hour or so of the show. The guys were great and seemed to have been received very well at Borders. I can't wait to see them in a more ambient-music-friendly- atmosphere like the "Down to Earth Coffeehouse" on January 17th. If you are anywhere near the area, make it a point to check it out!!! Or if you are an hour and a half away, like I was tonight, consider it even more!!! It was well worth the drive!!! ...that's all folks.....happy looping.... Daniel --------------------------------