------------------------------ Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 4 Today's Topics: Noisy Knobs [ Tom Lambrecht ] Re: Noisy Knobs [ Jeff Duke ] Boston area loopers and such [ djdowling@earthlink.net ] Re: Gravikords, Whirlies, & Pyrophon [ Andre Cholmodeley ] newbie says hello..... [ ZOM ] Re: Question about Looping CD/tape c [ ANET ] Re: newbie says hello..... [ ANET ] Re: Question about Looping CD/tape c [ "Matt McCabe" ] Re: Freon and protuberant cacaphony [ Tom Lambrecht ] Vortex for Sale [ Emmanuel Angel ] Re: newbie says hello..... [ Jeff Duke ] Lexicon MPX-1 Update [ "Scott R. Archambault" ] Re: newbie says hello..... [ Jeff Duke ] SIMM source -$15.71(US) [ james rhodes ] Ibanez DM-1100...and my Crafty years [ james rhodes ] Re: Ibanez DM-1100...and my Crafty y [ "T.W. Hartnett" ] CD recorders [ james rhodes ] Re: CD recorders [ patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) ] real Audio [ ZOM ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 08:48:32 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Noisy Knobs Message-Id: <199801111348.IAA27657@marconi.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Return-Path: >Errors-To: >From: lwordsman@pirnie.com >Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:31:31 -0500 >To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Noisy Knobs >Resent-Message-ID: <"3IN44D.A.e-G.2O_s0"@ferret> >Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2165 >Resent-Sender: SmartList >Resent-To: hideo@concentric.net >Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:40:07 -0800 > > Hey Wordsman (my passion as well :) Don't know if anyone got back to you privately or not, but contact cleaner helps dissolve the accumulations of goo that develop in old volume control pots(variable resistor) and TV tuners--any electronic supply place has it It's generally freon or solvent based--you usually need to get at the guts of the pot--sometimes with older pots with exposed gutty-wuts, you can just pull the knob off, sometimes you need to pull the panel off-- Sometimes, you can work the noise out with JUST vigorous knob twiddling (AAAAOOOOOOHHHHHHH . . . KNOB TWIDDLING . . .) and no cleaner. . . No luck? DON'T get carried away with the contact cleaner--the stuff is bad for the environment and you and too much may create otherr problems. Spray a little, twiddle the knobs (AAAAOOOOOOHHHHHHH . . . KNOB TWIDDLING . . .) see if the noise works out If this technical stuff stuns you, might I suggest you take it to Radio Shack, which along with Auto ZOne,is the last bastion of charity service in the sordid world of chain store retail ( I regularly see Auto Zone employees in St. Louis, a city not known for kind deeds, installing windshield wiper blades GRATIS on peoples cars!) It's a crap shoot, but: Enter the store wearing kind of a helpless expression--try and find the fresh, young employee (not burned out yet)--if he is wearing a pocket protector or has tape on his glasses, even better--and patiently wait in the que wait a second, are you FEMALE . . . strategy is slightly different, but for right now, let's assume you are a guy Ask the clerk if they have this "switch cleaner stuff that you squirt in the amp to clean it"--wait for the horrified look and then after he or she comes up with the can, politely ask "so do you squirt it in these holes in the back or is there a lube fitting somewhere?" Unless he's a totally heartless bastard, help is on the way. Good luck and drone on~~~~~~Tom >Travis Hartnett Wrote: > >" I wanted to see if I could squirt some contact cleaner into the feedback pot (it makes a horrible loud burst of white noise if it's rotated in the lower 25% of its range. " > >My amp makes terrible noise when I turn the knobs and I was unaware of any product that could help reduce that noise. Please tell me more. > > > > Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 08:55:31 EST From: PJBMHB To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Noisy Knobs Message-ID: <1e8fafc7.34b8cf54@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I don't think they sell Freon anymore. It is nasty stuff that pokes holes in the ozone. =-l PJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:20:46 -0500 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Noisy Knobs Message-ID: <34B8E34E.A8A2E16D@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey friends, I was advised by an electician/musicion friend of mine,that radio shack tv tuner cleaner is not the way to go.Instead use an electrical grade cleaner,I got my can at the local auto parts store and it works wonderfuly.Looping in Ga.,Jeff Duke sr.You can check out my new web page at; http://members.tripod.com/~dukesr/index.html Tom Lambrecht wrote: > >>Return-Path: > >Errors-To: > >From: lwordsman@pirnie.com > >Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:31:31 -0500 > >To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: Noisy Knobs > >Resent-Message-ID: <"3IN44D.A.e-G.2O_s0"@ferret> > >Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2165 > >Resent-Sender: SmartList > >Resent-To: hideo@concentric.net > >Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:40:07 -0800 > > > > > > Hey Wordsman (my passion as well :) > > Don't know if anyone got back to you privately or not, but contact cleaner > helps dissolve the accumulations of goo that develop in old volume control > pots(variable resistor) and TV tuners--any electronic supply place has it > > It's generally freon or solvent based--you usually need to get at the guts > of the pot--sometimes with older pots with exposed gutty-wuts, you can just > pull the knob off, sometimes you need to pull the panel off-- > > Sometimes, you can work the noise out with JUST vigorous knob twiddling > (AAAAOOOOOOHHHHHHH . . . KNOB TWIDDLING . . .) and no cleaner. . . No luck? > > DON'T get carried away with the contact cleaner--the stuff is bad for the > environment and you and too much may create otherr problems. Spray a little, > twiddle the knobs (AAAAOOOOOOHHHHHHH . . . KNOB TWIDDLING . . .) see if the > noise works out > > If this technical stuff stuns you, might I suggest you take it to Radio > Shack, which along with Auto ZOne,is the last bastion of charity service in > the sordid world of chain store retail ( I regularly see Auto Zone employees > in St. Louis, a city not known for kind deeds, installing windshield wiper > blades GRATIS on peoples cars!) It's a crap shoot, but: > > Enter the store wearing kind of a helpless expression--try and find the > fresh, young employee (not burned out yet)--if he is wearing a pocket > protector or has tape on his glasses, even better--and patiently wait in the que > > wait a second, are you FEMALE . . . strategy is slightly different, but for > right now, let's assume you are a guy > > Ask the clerk if they have this "switch cleaner stuff that you squirt in the > amp to clean it"--wait for the horrified look and then after he or she comes > up with the can, politely ask "so do you squirt it in these holes in the > back or is there a lube fitting somewhere?" > > Unless he's a totally heartless bastard, help is on the way. > > Good luck and drone on~~~~~~Tom > > >Travis Hartnett Wrote: > > > >" I wanted to see if I could squirt some contact cleaner into the feedback > pot (it makes a horrible loud burst of white noise if it's rotated in the > lower 25% of its range. " > > > >My amp makes terrible noise when I turn the knobs and I was unaware of any > product that could help reduce that noise. Please tell me more. > > > > > > > > > Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:05:56 -0500 From: djdowling@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Boston area loopers and such Message-ID: <34B92624.2B11@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, I'm an administrator and project developer at a new theatre in Somerville, MA: The Peabody House Theatre Cooperative. We are a non-profit professional company in the midst of our first season under this name and in this space (The Elizabeth Peabody House). The Pitch: we've had great success opening the theatre to other members of the artistic community (musicians, poets, visual artists) with open mic style evenings. Currently I'm developing a live music program where we will feature musical acts in the same grand style as our theatre acts. The idea being that "theatre" is not just "plays" but any performance event in a given space. Our black box theatre (formerly a Methodist chapel) is very flexible and has been of great interest to our musical guests. Because of my interest in loop-style music and developing a forum for acts that aren't always suited to the club format, I'm feeling out the Boston Loop scene for interested parties. Email me privately and I'll put you on MY LIST. As the program develops I'll update you. Cheers, Dave Dowling ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:37:23 -0500 From: Andre Cholmodeley To: Subject: Re: Gravikords, Whirlies, & Pyrophones Message-Id: <199801112037.PAA11768@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a ": Gravikords, Whirlies, & Pyrophones:" show up-coming at the knitting factory check out their live feed - i just enjoyed a few minutes of a 'virtual show' last nite - great sound, tiny , but clear picture pretty much every show is live, so those of you halfway @ the globe can see some "bizarre" instruments live!! the live feed and schedule are at http://www.knittingfactory.com peace thru music andre' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:38:37 EST From: Fmplautus To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Question about Looping CD/tape contributions Message-ID: <5cb69d14.34b92dce@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The LoOpDoctOrs have other looping friends that would like to contribute to any of the ongoing LoopersDelight cd or cassette projects. Does an artist have to be on the LoopersDelight mailing list in order to contribute to one of these projects? If not, whom should they contact and how. Best, the LoOpDoctOrs ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:27:33 -0600 From: ZOM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: newbie says hello..... Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980111202733.006acad4@txdirect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, all.... I have many Real Audio files of my own loop projects up at the URL below.....anyone else out there have Real Audio stuff online I can check out?? Thanks! Real Audio Zombie Project Music! Paisley Babylon, more coming.... http://www.txdirect.net/users/zom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:08:59 EST From: ANET To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Question about Looping CD/tape contributions Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I don't think they need to be Looper Delight members in that there are none. Just those of us that subscribe to the mailing lists. If you would like to submit your work on tape, then you would want to contribute to the third CD project and send the tape to me. John Peters 15 9th Ave. NW Kasson, Minnesota. 55944 Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:16:23 EST From: ANET To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: newbie says hello..... Message-ID: <513591c9.34b9a728@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit You mentioned you have a lot of real audio samples at your site, Would you mind telling us how to place real audio samples onto a webpage? I think the streaming stuff is better than the rest of the audio players. Thanks!!!! John Peters ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:34:04 -0800 From: "Matt McCabe" To: Subject: Re: Question about Looping CD/tape contributions Message-Id: <199801121532.HAA07736@gw1.bi-tech.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: Fmplautus > The LoOpDoctOrs have other looping friends that would like to contribute to > any of the ongoing LoopersDelight cd or cassette projects. Does an artist > have to be on the LoopersDelight mailing list in order to contribute to one of > these projects? If not, whom should they contact and how. Well.....the Looper CD volume 2 (or whatever it's called) is closed for submissions....unless you or your friends have emailed me privately in the last month. There is hope!! ANET@aol.com is taking submissions for volume 3 (tape based submissions). This is all so confusing since volume 1 is sitting in a paper bag in someones closet....somewhere. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:19:26 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Freon and protuberant cacaphony Message-Id: <199801121719.MAA28317@mcfeely.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:55 AM 1/11/98 EST, you wrote: >I don't think they sell Freon anymore. It is nasty stuff that pokes holes in >the ozone. =-l PJ > > > 'Tis one of the reasons that you wear SPF 45 in Australia . . . re: selling hte stuff: true for air conditioners and fridges (at least consumers can't get it), and I'm not sure where they are on phasing it out, but I think they still use various pure forms of it in teeny bottles for cleaning contacts and tape heads. >Hey friends, >I was advised by an electician/musicion friend of mine,that radio shack tv tuner >cleaner is not the way to go.Instead use an electrical grade cleaner,I got my can at >the local auto parts store >and it works wonderfuly.Looping in Ga.,Jeff Duke sr.You can check out my new web >page at; http://members.tripod.com/~dukesr/index.html I would never get "tuner cleaner" either just cuz' it seems like it is contact cleaner in a different can I'd be inclined to get my contact cleaner in a (presumably) purer form at an electronics place--but then again, with all the chips and gold contacts in today's cars, there probably isn't any diff (and I'm sure it's cheaper) drone on Tom "Membrane switches . . . why did it have to be MEMBRANE SWITCHES? . . ." Indiana Jones Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:46:06 EST From: Fmplautus To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Re: Question about Looping CD/tape contributions Message-ID: <63fdba74.34ba56e0@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Matt: You mean volume one is in like some paper bag in a closet aging and developing a richer flavor...like cheeze or wine? Incidentally, since the LoOpDoctOrs are supposed to be on volume one, remind us again of the time limits on our contribution and deadline date for submission, if you please. Our keyboardist is supposed to come in here and do something in the mac tonite and we don't want to wear out his fingers unnecessarily. ;) Wasn't the limit supposed to be six minutes per contributor for the CD? Best, The LoOpDoctOrs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:01:47 -0500 (EST) From: Emmanuel Angel To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Vortex for Sale Message-Id: <199801121901.OAA03695@dolphin.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For sale: 1 Lexicon Vortex Condition: New in Factory Box --- Never Used! Warranty: Registration card in box Asking Price: $265.00 Contact: angel2@dolphin.upenn.edu As many of you know, this amazing processor sounds incredibly warm, with a host of delay, modulation, and other effects. Highly programmable, with the ability to morph between sounds. Stereo in's and out's. Input for pedal control of audio morphing. Standard rack mount. E. Angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:27:09 -0500 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Freon and protuberant cacaphony Message-ID: <34BA8AAD.F120E219@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Follow up;The contac cleaner I'm talking about contains no cfc's,instead it's "powered" by carbon dioxide as the propellent.Of course it's still poison if you breath or swallow it. Jeff Tom Lambrecht wrote: > At 08:55 AM 1/11/98 EST, you wrote: > >I don't think they sell Freon anymore. It is nasty stuff that pokes holes in > >the ozone. =-l PJ > > > > > > > 'Tis one of the reasons that you wear SPF 45 in Australia . . . > > re: selling hte stuff: true for air conditioners and fridges (at least > consumers can't get it), and I'm not sure where they are on phasing it out, > but I think they still use various pure forms of it in teeny bottles for > cleaning contacts and tape heads. > > >Hey friends, > >I was advised by an electician/musicion friend of mine,that radio shack tv > tuner > >cleaner is not the way to go.Instead use an electrical grade cleaner,I got > my can at > >the local auto parts store > >and it works wonderfuly.Looping in Ga.,Jeff Duke sr.You can check out my > new web > >page at; http://members.tripod.com/~dukesr/index.html > > I would never get "tuner cleaner" either just cuz' it seems like it is > contact cleaner in a different can > > I'd be inclined to get my contact cleaner in a (presumably) purer form at an > electronics place--but then again, with all the chips and gold contacts in > today's cars, there probably isn't any diff (and I'm sure it's cheaper) > > drone on Tom > > "Membrane switches . . . why did it have to be MEMBRANE SWITCHES? . . ." > Indiana Jones > Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:50:29 -0500 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: newbie says hello..... Message-ID: <34BA9025.24B90C00@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would be glad to pass on my newly learned info on real audio.It's easy to make them and put them on a web site.If your interested,you can email me at; jmar@bellsouth.net,and check out my new website TecBabLabs at;http://members.tripod.com/~dukesr/index.html Jeff Duke sr. ANET wrote: > You mentioned you have a lot of real audio samples at your site, Would you > mind telling us how to place real audio samples onto a webpage? I think the > streaming stuff is better than the rest of the audio players. > > Thanks!!!! > John Peters ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:32:50 -0700 From: "Scott R. Archambault" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Lexicon MPX-1 Update Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here is a brief recap of an e-mail discussion I had with Lexicon regarding lengthening the delay time of the MPX-1... Are there any plans to increase (via software or simm-chip upgrade) the delay time of the MPX-1? Two seconds are simply not enough for real, Fripp-like looping... ------------------------------------------------- Scott, There is no memory upgrade path for the MPX-1. It is our policy here not to comment on features or products that have not been released to the public. Product introductions often coincide with major trade shows - the next such show is NAMM in LA (Jan 29 - Feb 1). Steve De Furia Director of Product Management Professional Products Lexicon 3 Oak Park/Bedford MA 01730-1441/USA Voice (781) 280-0340/FAX (781) 280-0490/email sdefuria@lexicon.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:28:08 From: james rhodes To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: simm upgrade/ CD recorders Message-Id: <3.0.2.16.19980112102808.2e673388@texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi you looping addicts:: just a little update to those interested... maxed out the echoplex today ,,,paid $15.71 a piece for 30 pin simms,,,works great also discovered a source for 1 megs for $2.00 each (US)...pretty reasonable... also ordered a stand-alone audio CDRW,,,a phillips 870....look forward to recording live gigs to CD...should be in next week... can provide simm info to anyone interested... later loopers james ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:26:59 -0500 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: newbie says hello..... Message-ID: <34BAA6C2.BDE3FEA0@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another follow up,The free Real audio encoder is at;http://www.real.com/encoder/index.html it's kind of hard to find the free stuff for some reason!Jeff Duke sr. ANET wrote: > You mentioned you have a lot of real audio samples at your site, Would you > mind telling us how to place real audio samples onto a webpage? I think the > streaming stuff is better than the rest of the audio players. > > Thanks!!!! > John Peters ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:37:43 From: james rhodes To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: SIMM source -$15.71(US) Message-Id: <3.0.2.16.19980112123743.30073a48@texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi the memory upgrade works just fine... 4MB 30 PIN X3 60ns SIMM came from Electrotex here in San Antonio 210-735-9271 hope this helps ....they do ship UPS...give um a call later you slaves of de loopage james ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:49:29 From: james rhodes To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Ibanez DM-1100...and my Crafty years Message-Id: <3.0.2.16.19980112124929.300796d2@texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi about 5 years ago i was playing with one of the original Crafty Guitarists..John Miley,,, when i lived in Athens, GA,,,i recall his looping efforts involved an Ibanez DM-1100 rack mount delay,,,i think it had about 4 seconds,,,but i seem to remember you could change the tempo etc...anyone ever use one of these,,,do you still,,,if so,,please let me know what your impressions of this unit were/are..... thanks james ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 18:53:44 -0000 From: "T.W. Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Re: Ibanez DM-1100...and my Crafty years Message-Id: <199801130053.QAA06366@scv1.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >about 5 years ago i was playing with one of the original Crafty >Guitarists..John Miley,,, when i lived in Athens, GA,,,i recall his looping >efforts involved an Ibanez DM-1100 rack mount delay,,,i think it had about >4 seconds,,,but i seem to remember you could change the tempo etc...anyone >ever use one of these,,,do you still,,,if so,,please let me know what your >impressions of this unit were/are..... I had one of those, sold it, and regret it. It was a 3.6 sec delay, with the usual controls. The cool thing was the treble cut/boost knob which allowed you to alter the high-frequency content of the delay line--great for those old tape-echo effects. I haven't seen one since I bought mine used around '88. Travis hartnett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:46:36 -0800 (PST) From: Paolo Valladolid To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Ground Zero - Consume Red Message-Id: <199801130146.RAA24820@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just picked up the CD _Consume Red_ by Ground Zero. Ground Zero is a group led by turntable man/guitarist Otomo Yoshihide. Consume Red consists of a single track which lasts about 55 minutes. The sound of a Korean wind instrument playing a specific melody is repeated almost constantly (a loop, I guess) while other sounds are layered on and the live musicians join in. I guess some might consider this CD an exercise in patience, but I found it to have almost a meditative quality (then again, I can sit through Steve Reich pieces too with no problem). This may be the first in a series of posts about all the new CDs I picked up that might be relevant to this ML. I went on a buying binge thanks to Tower Record's CD clearance sale and my somewhat quarterly sojourn to Lou's Records, a store located about 20 min. drive away from my apartment which consistently carries the greatest variety of music in the San Diego area. They just added a New Music section, which makes it much easier for me to find stuff by Keiji Haino and other weirdos. :) Cheers, Paolo Valladolid --------------------------------------------------------------- |Moderator of Digital Guitar Digest, an Internet mailing list |\ |for Music Technology and Stringed Instruments | \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- | \ finger pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu for more info \ | \ http://waynesworld.ucsd.edu/DigitalGuitar/home.html \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:37:29 EST From: ENAT21213 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: simm upgrade/ CD recorders Message-ID: <1dd7842f.34bad36a@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-12 17:17:49 EST, you write: << also ordered a stand-alone audio CDRW,,,a phillips 870....look forward to recording live gigs to CD...should be in next week... >> Im interested in purchsing a CDR recorder.Does the phillips 870 or all CDR recorders have rca ins or other?How much does the 870 cost?Is the 870 the way to go? Any infomation you guys can give me would be greatly appeciated. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:55:57 From: james rhodes To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: CD recorders Message-Id: <3.0.2.16.19980112155557.2e1f5be0@texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" for any of those list members interested: http://www.srtl.co.uk/srtl/cdr870.html will provide info on this CDRW US funds $600.00 for philips pioneer puts out one for about $800.00 US At 09:37 PM 1/12/98 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-01-12 17:17:49 EST, you write: ><< also ordered a stand-alone audio CDRW,,,a phillips 870....look forward to > recording live gigs to CD...should be in next week... >> > >Im interested in purchsing a CDR recorder.Does the phillips 870 or all CDR >recorders have rca ins or other?How much does the 870 cost?Is the 870 the way >to go? >Any infomation you guys can give me would be greatly appeciated. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:29:49 +0200 From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: CD recorders Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >for any of those list members interested: > >http://www.srtl.co.uk/srtl/cdr870.html will provide info on this CDRW > >US funds $600.00 for philips pioneer puts out one for about $800.00 US > > Hey Jim, Let us know what you think of it, after you have worked with it a bit. Thanks in advance. PAtrick *** *** ** Fingerpaint http://www.his.com/~patrick/FNGP.html *** ** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:29:29 -0600 From: ZOM To: jmar@bellsouth.net Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: real Audio Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980112222929.006bb588@txdirect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am using Real Publisher, which, if you can find it, is AMAZING. The compression, for one, is MUCH better than ever. I dunno if that is because of updated version, or if for some reason they saved the "good one" for this product....anyway, it also creates an html code for the file once it's finished encoding....it's a true 90's invention, much like the Web Page authoring software selling for 80 bux a pop....... :-) yes, i love it, minimal html writing, loads of streaming.....nice small file sizes. Also, I've added a new one to my music page.... Real Audio Zombie Project Music! Paisley Babylon, more coming.... http://www.txdirect.net/users/zom --------------------------------